I always tell people buying parts for a build, don’t buy parts that barely meets your requirements now. Actually think of what performance you want to have in the future and think of how much more you will have to pay in the long run having to upgrade multiple parts more often
My last two builds were in the Montech Air 903 which runs ~$65-75 with four fans and RGB or three fans and no RGB, in black or white. Highly recommended. Before that I built two PCs in the DIYPC J180 at $50 apiece (now seems to be OOS everywhere. Recommended only for budget builds by builders who know all the pitfalls and how to get around them.
I just upgraded to 14700k, z790 mobo, 32gb ram, 1kw psu 80 gold plus, im still using 1080ti, which gpu do you reccomend for me on 1440p using 3 screens atm.
my 10400f died 1½ before Newyears Eve... using 5800x with a cheap b550 mobo but its fun, although it tried to kill my 240 aio cpu cooler the 1st hour untill I watched some yt videos about undervolting and pbo!!!!! still should have gone for the 12600k and a b660 mobo since it blows the 5800x away in premiere pro!but it was the only thing I could fully build on the 2nd of January!another tech guru I follow here on yt, is Tech Notice!Now its the time to build a pc just like yours!are u using ddr5 or ddr4?
I was able to get a 13900kf for 300$ and a 3080 FTW3 for $300 on FB marketplace recently. I bought cheap and I don’t have to replace anything anytime soon. Playing Control and AW2 on ultra at 1440p.
Those are good prices. Good finds. I've always been sus of anything used unless I had a portable test bench to make sure they work properly. I've never purchased on FB marketplace, do they have any kind of buyer protection if you get scammed?
This Black Friday built my sister a 12600k ($150) on an ASUS TUF B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 (used $90) with a 2tb Cardea Z440 ($90) and traded in an old 2060 super for a RX 7600 on Newegg ($254-$123=$131) in an corsair 4000D ($99), and 64gb of Patriot viper 3200 cl16 ($90), had a ak400 and corsair 750w laying around for her, you already know where I got the windows key wink*. The whole build came out to $665, she plays smaller titles like house flipper at 1080p so its all she'll need for a while. You said it those deals didn't last forever.
WOW that NVME is now $180! The power a video can make I guess. HOLY CRAP!! Just went to grab it IMMEDIATELY and, sadly, it is no more. Well not for that price.
On recommendation for 210.00, I bought a I7 12700k, with a MSI z690 tomahawk motherboard for 160.00. Now with my build which I could have built a little cheaper. But I decided to go all in, understanding that this is already two generation old. And I'm only playing Wargaming games, so this is an over kill. a NZXT H5 Flow NZXT Z53 cpu cooler RX 6900 XT 1 2TB NVME 4 Gen 1 2TB NVME 3 Gen 2 4TB NVME 3 Gen 64 mg DDR4 GSkill ram MSI 850 Tuff gaming PW total for everything is 1952.00
where a builder seems to get nailed nowadays is when you choosing Storage options. A 2TB SSD Samsung 870 EVO is $149 dollars right now. That's what I would pick for my boot drive. When it comes to drives for my games, 2x 4TB SSD Samsung 870 EVO's, that would be my starting choice which I would probably add at the least another 4TB SSD (probably 2 more), but what brand that would be I'm not sure of yet. The cost of 2x 4TB Samsung 870 EVO's? $289 dollars a piece. That's a hit right there boy, that is a hit. We're talking OVER 500 dollars for two drives not counting the boot drive. That's a little more than the CPU and MOBO combined if it's an i5-13600K and a Z790 Aorus Elite AX. Quality SSD Storage is currently one of thee most expensive items on the parts list.
My build for 2024 graphic design, video editing and gaming will be *13500 (made a mistake buying it because I thought the 13600k didn't have a IGPU) *Asrock Z790 Livemixer * 6700 XT *64gb ram 6000 (T create 4 sticks) *m.2 550gb os and x2 2TB hard drives (from my old system) *Montec 5G centery 850w Just need a 360 AIO before I start building and will later add Better M.2 drives to fill the motherboard and replace my os drive.
@@zwieback1988 Lmao I wouldn't call them weak, they get the job done very fast loads and also I got those drives from a prebuilt I bought, turned out to be a scam
16gb ram is dead to me I built my old brother a pc so he can just use some light work AND i udes 32 gb ram because he use lots of chrome tabs and even if he didnt i ll still go for 32 Its cheap and worth it
I see some prices now on BB for the new Super cards and I think the 70Ti Super is DOA... $900 gor a ventus vs $1000 for a 4080S... and plenty of $600 4070 Super cards. so buy up and get the 80 card or put money in your pocket and buy down. which everyone was saying 70Ti Super all the way 😂😂
@@greatwavefan397So you like Amd’s micro stutter? If anything is a joke is a AMD fanboy who touts an AMD cpu but won’t ever touch a AMD GPU. Then proceed to crap on Intel without no real world experience.
I think for someone this day and age buildiing a pc should be more realistic about their intentions for the pc. Putting a price on how much you should spend on a pc won't help because you'll be force to upgrade later. I think it's best to save and buy each part one at a time seeing that the pc market is changing so fast and some of these new games are getting harder to run. People would say, yea! 16gb ram and 8gb gpu is all you need.... Not anymore
This was never different. The question is just your use case and the pace of development. Back when cpus doubled speed within 8month it was also not wise to overspend, as there was no future proof. Now you can gain 1 or 2 additional years when spending a litte more than you think to need.
i bought a 2nd hand 1080ti and bought a new i5 12400 , 32 gb ram, 1 tb ssd , and when i ran gta 5 and pubg guess what the cpu was reaching 99 percent on gta 5 and 85 percent on pubg on medium to high settings and the gpu was holding its promise well , BUT i noticed small glitches in gta 5 randomly and i realised the cpu is the reason for that because it was pushing too much and could not do more so it was underclocking or something and mind you i had a fresh install of windows 11 and drivers and all that perfectly , 8 core is really the norm i guess for pc gamers now , and i have noticed at least 1 game on steam which shows 32 gb as recommended so theres that tho steam hardware survey shows 6 core is the most used , 8 core will become the norm once ps5 pro and gta 6 releases and then people realise their cpu, gpu and ram are all crapping out
my wife does zero gaming, does a lot of multitasking and and the other day she said the pc gets bogged down checked and yea she bumps up against the 32gb ceiling people just don't get it cached ram isn't free ram , and if you have to cycle the cache out to free up some ram for what you want to do now = bad user experience yes 64gb is a bit overkill but 32gb isn't cutting it, 99.9% of people don't run just a single app/game in this day and age 32gb is the entry level for acceptable user experience below that = pain above that = joy
the new 50 series gpus are rumoured to have 12 gb vram for mid range which a big L for nvidia given that its 2024 and vram usage has goen so high for pc users , theya re jsut rolling us at this point with such high prices and the specs , the gpus will have high cuda and rt cores but guess what the vram will be the bottleneck ! just look at apple's new announcement with unified memory where they combined ram, vram , cpu , gpu, storage on single soc and it works seamless , i feel nvidia and intel should go all in with direct storage , i have seen big youtubers and even the tech discord channels claiming you dont need much vram and it sounds so delusional
Indeed, unified memory is the future, but the PC x86 design will need a major revamp to make that happen. Easier for Apple since they control the whole platform.
Far as the consoles go... Since removing backward compatibility on the ps3, and again on the PS4, I have *zero* reason to consider a PS5, unless I know for a fact, how to jailbreak it immediately. Why? Because after the last couple exploits were found to dump the firmware, dataminers figured out that _there is a functional PS2 emulator in the firmware for the PS4 and PS5 consoles, that is disabled by default by Sony_ with no explanation why it's even there, or why it's off. Literally my only reason to care about a Playstation at this point, is to jailbreak it so I can play my old games on the new hardware. There is not a single game for it that I couldn't have, better, elsewhere. For much of the same reason, with the Xbox ecosystem. I want the backward compatibility with the original xbox and 360 libraries; so a Series S does nothing for me. But the proprietary storage of the Series X is an immediate turn-off. And none of this matters, when one still can't even just walk into a given store and buy one off the shelf of any flavor. Still cannot find a (disc) PS5 or Series X, and that's been an issue since launch. Not sure how Gamestop even has any second-hand units, because I've never once seen them available new. Nevermind that Gamestop _at best_ has about 12 months of operating capital left before they default and have to shut down regardless of remaining inventory, but that's neither here nor there. My gripe with intel since 12th gen, is the hybrid cores basically force me into Windows 11. "Well, you can use it on Windows 10"... no, no you cannot. intel has made a point to *not* fix the broken threading behavior it does on 10; so in order to use a 12th gen or newer intel on Windows 10, I have to disable the error cores anyway. "but, but, those are real cores" ... again, no they are not. Even in the best case, they are six generations behind in terms of IPC, and lack hyper threading. Also, enabling *any* of those e cores gimps your upper limit on clocking the p cores or the uncore (ring/cache/etc) clocks dramatically. So far, not a single sound card I care to use has drivers to work on Windows 11; not from the manufacturer, anyway. Meaning, any sound solution that works in Windows 11, is a net downgrade for my use case. This also doesn't factor that at best, intel is still only selling 8 core chips if I want to continue using Windows 10. Also, we've been exposed to the "hybrid" cores thing for years now, on phones. With that in context, such hybrid designs are simply not performant, ever. They age dramatically fast; so my experience with them on phones has me biased towards thinking that they won't last a blip in performance for a desktop system.
I'm in the uk but i built my pc with a budget of around £500-600 in 2020, the reason why i ended up going with that budget was because i had already bought a gpu, rx 570 4gb and realised my amd fx 4300, could not run that card and old hdds were starting to be a real problem, the pc i had then was from 2013. Amd bulldozer 4300 4gb ram amd 6600 2gb gpu prebuilt for £485 If i remember rightly the new build was something like r7 2700x £150 Mortar max b450 Mobo £90 16gb ddr4 vengeance ram £60 WD Blue Sn550 500gb boot nvme £75 CiT Blaze pc case £60 Corsair 750w psu £60 The gpu i paid £140 i think Since then it has had some changes 3060ti £645, No, i have no idea why i paid that much, feel free to make jokes. 2tb Crucial p3 m.2 £0 32gb ram kit £45 (total cost after selling old ram kit) r7 5700x £160 wd blue 1tb sata m.2 £100 I think that's all the phrase, buy it nice or buy it twice, comes to mind, next time i plan to double the budget atleast and think ahead a little more when i pick the components.
Dont worry about the 3060ti price. They were over 1000 € for quite a while. And we talk about a multiple year period with only rising prices. It is hard to sit that out with old hardware as life goes by.
I always tell people buying parts for a build, don’t buy parts that barely meets your requirements now. Actually think of what performance you want to have in the future and think of how much more you will have to pay in the long run having to upgrade multiple parts more often
Yep, I have said that many, many times... people don't always listen however.
Unfortunately, I've learned this lesson the hard way twice now.
thanks for the tips!
Amazing video mate, Nice Windows Key too!
My last two builds were in the Montech Air 903 which runs ~$65-75 with four fans and RGB or three fans and no RGB, in black or white. Highly recommended. Before that I built two PCs in the DIYPC J180 at $50 apiece (now seems to be OOS everywhere. Recommended only for budget builds by builders who know all the pitfalls and how to get around them.
I just upgraded to 14700k, z790 mobo, 32gb ram, 1kw psu 80 gold plus, im still using 1080ti, which gpu do you reccomend for me on 1440p using 3 screens atm.
my 10400f died 1½ before Newyears Eve... using 5800x with a cheap b550 mobo but its fun, although it tried to kill my 240 aio cpu cooler the 1st hour untill I watched some yt videos about undervolting and pbo!!!!! still should have gone for the 12600k and a b660 mobo since it blows the 5800x away in premiere pro!but it was the only thing I could fully build on the 2nd of January!another tech guru I follow here on yt, is Tech Notice!Now its the time to build a pc just like yours!are u using ddr5 or ddr4?
4070 Ti Super coming out this month. I'd look at that.
@@benjamind547 Ok but why not 4080 super, way better specs bandwidth etc.
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 its ddr5
surely like a 3080, 6800xt or above?
Great video and thanks for the windows discount!
I was able to get a 13900kf for 300$ and a 3080 FTW3 for $300 on FB marketplace recently. I bought cheap and I don’t have to replace anything anytime soon. Playing Control and AW2 on ultra at 1440p.
Wow!! Whoever sold that 3080 ti took a huge loss.
@@Typhon888 just 3080 . Non TI
Those are good prices. Good finds. I've always been sus of anything used unless I had a portable test bench to make sure they work properly. I've never purchased on FB marketplace, do they have any kind of buyer protection if you get scammed?
Nice video and thanks for the Win key as well 😉
Good video, excellent information. Greetings
great video,as always I learn so much
good key windows, i like it
Pro Tip: Windows 10 Pro OEM keys seamlessly transition to Windows 11. Save money wisely by snagging Windows 10 Pro keys for your Windows 11 setup.
Thanks for the Windows key offer!
This Black Friday built my sister a 12600k ($150) on an ASUS TUF B660M-PLUS WIFI D4 (used $90) with a 2tb Cardea Z440 ($90) and traded in an old 2060 super for a RX 7600 on Newegg ($254-$123=$131) in an corsair 4000D ($99), and 64gb of Patriot viper 3200 cl16 ($90), had a ak400 and corsair 750w laying around for her, you already know where I got the windows key wink*. The whole build came out to $665, she plays smaller titles like house flipper at 1080p so its all she'll need for a while. You said it those deals didn't last forever.
Good video, excellent information about the windows keys.
the key win 10 i like this
very helpful
Awesome
WOW that NVME is now $180! The power a video can make I guess. HOLY CRAP!! Just went to grab it IMMEDIATELY and, sadly, it is no more. Well not for that price.
Silicon Valley is one main reason for the inflation we are experiencing, not Joe Biden!
Great video and analysis
Appreciate it!
Thermaltake SMART is not the best, anyway nice video 👍👍👍
Went from a 1650 super to a 4060 and I’m so happy with it
@@Typhon888 1300-1400?? What
On recommendation for 210.00, I bought a I7 12700k, with a MSI z690 tomahawk motherboard for 160.00. Now with my build which I could have built a little cheaper. But I decided to go all in, understanding that this is already two generation old. And I'm only playing Wargaming games, so this is an over kill. a NZXT H5 Flow
NZXT Z53 cpu cooler
RX 6900 XT
1 2TB NVME 4 Gen
1 2TB NVME 3 Gen
2 4TB NVME 3 Gen
64 mg DDR4 GSkill ram
MSI 850 Tuff gaming PW
total for everything is 1952.00
where a builder seems to get nailed nowadays is when you choosing Storage options. A 2TB SSD Samsung 870 EVO is $149 dollars right now. That's what I would pick for my boot drive. When it comes to drives for my games, 2x 4TB SSD Samsung 870 EVO's, that would be my starting choice which I would probably add at the least another 4TB SSD (probably 2 more), but what brand that would be I'm not sure of yet. The cost of 2x 4TB Samsung 870 EVO's? $289 dollars a piece. That's a hit right there boy, that is a hit. We're talking OVER 500 dollars for two drives not counting the boot drive. That's a little more than the CPU and MOBO combined if it's an i5-13600K and a Z790 Aorus Elite AX. Quality SSD Storage is currently one of thee most expensive items on the parts list.
My build for 2024 graphic design, video editing and gaming will be
*13500 (made a mistake buying it because I thought the 13600k didn't have a IGPU)
*Asrock Z790 Livemixer
* 6700 XT
*64gb ram 6000 (T create 4 sticks)
*m.2 550gb os and x2 2TB hard drives (from my old system)
*Montec 5G centery 850w
Just need a 360 AIO before I start building and will later add Better M.2 drives to fill the motherboard and replace my os drive.
The hdd and small boot drives are the weakest point of your build. If you have the money better buy them right from the start.
@@zwieback1988 Lmao I wouldn't call them weak, they get the job done very fast loads and also I got those drives from a prebuilt I bought, turned out to be a scam
@@devent5181 yes they work but their Performance is so fare away from ssd for produktive work.
Looks like the RX 6700 XT that I bought in december of 2022 was the best thing I have done for my PC
16gb ram is dead to me
I built my old brother a pc so he can just use some light work AND i udes 32 gb ram because he use lots of chrome tabs and even if he didnt i ll still go for 32
Its cheap and worth it
Don't forget to LIKE the video
I see some prices now on BB for the new Super cards and I think the 70Ti Super is DOA... $900 gor a ventus vs $1000 for a 4080S... and plenty of $600 4070 Super cards. so buy up and get the 80 card or put money in your pocket and buy down. which everyone was saying 70Ti Super all the way 😂😂
4080s can cost up to 25% more as 4070tiS and still be an equal deal. For 10% difference it is the better deal.
Go with the upcoming Ryzen 7 5700X3D..
Step 1: don't choose intel unless you can get the components at a good sale price
If price is all you care about then Intel is not for you. Also hope you’re not running Nvidia aswell.
@@Typhon888 price to performance is all I care about. Doesn't matter the company.
Step 2: Anything beyond 9th or 10th gen shouldn't concern you if you care about undervolting.
@@13loodLustI doubt that if you’re complaining about a few $$$. Also this whole “Intel is bad” is cringy at best.
@@greatwavefan397So you like Amd’s micro stutter? If anything is a joke is a AMD fanboy who touts an AMD cpu but won’t ever touch a AMD GPU. Then proceed to crap on Intel without no real world experience.
dam since when did windows keys get that cheap
I think for someone this day and age buildiing a pc should be more realistic about their intentions for the pc. Putting a price on how much you should spend on a pc won't help because you'll be force to upgrade later. I think it's best to save and buy each part one at a time seeing that the pc market is changing so fast and some of these new games are getting harder to run. People would say, yea! 16gb ram and 8gb gpu is all you need.... Not anymore
This was never different. The question is just your use case and the pace of development.
Back when cpus doubled speed within 8month it was also not wise to overspend, as there was no future proof. Now you can gain 1 or 2 additional years when spending a litte more than you think to need.
i bought a 2nd hand 1080ti and bought a new i5 12400 , 32 gb ram, 1 tb ssd , and when i ran gta 5 and pubg guess what the cpu was reaching 99 percent on gta 5 and 85 percent on pubg on medium to high settings and the gpu was holding its promise well , BUT i noticed small glitches in gta 5 randomly and i realised the cpu is the reason for that because it was pushing too much and could not do more so it was underclocking or something and mind you i had a fresh install of windows 11 and drivers and all that perfectly , 8 core is really the norm i guess for pc gamers now , and i have noticed at least 1 game on steam which shows 32 gb as recommended so theres that
tho steam hardware survey shows 6 core is the most used , 8 core will become the norm once ps5 pro and gta 6 releases and then people realise their cpu, gpu and ram are all crapping out
GTA V is also 11 years old... which is nuts, but there it is.
@@TechDeals well 9 cuz PC version lauched in 2015 and its not close being same files and stuff but yeah still a toastergame now :P
my wife does zero gaming, does a lot of multitasking and and the other day she said the pc gets bogged down checked and yea she bumps up against the 32gb ceiling
people just don't get it cached ram isn't free ram , and if you have to cycle the cache out to free up some ram for what you want to do now = bad user experience
yes 64gb is a bit overkill but 32gb isn't cutting it, 99.9% of people don't run just a single app/game in this day and age 32gb is the entry level for acceptable user experience
below that = pain
above that = joy
the new 50 series gpus are rumoured to have 12 gb vram for mid range which a big L for nvidia given that its 2024 and vram usage has goen so high for pc users , theya re jsut rolling us at this point with such high prices and the specs , the gpus will have high cuda and rt cores but guess what the vram will be the bottleneck !
just look at apple's new announcement with unified memory where they combined ram, vram , cpu , gpu, storage on single soc and it works seamless , i feel nvidia and intel should go all in with direct storage , i have seen big youtubers and even the tech discord channels claiming you dont need much vram and it sounds so delusional
Indeed, unified memory is the future, but the PC x86 design will need a major revamp to make that happen. Easier for Apple since they control the whole platform.
Far as the consoles go...
Since removing backward compatibility on the ps3, and again on the PS4, I have *zero* reason to consider a PS5, unless I know for a fact, how to jailbreak it immediately. Why? Because after the last couple exploits were found to dump the firmware, dataminers figured out that _there is a functional PS2 emulator in the firmware for the PS4 and PS5 consoles, that is disabled by default by Sony_ with no explanation why it's even there, or why it's off. Literally my only reason to care about a Playstation at this point, is to jailbreak it so I can play my old games on the new hardware. There is not a single game for it that I couldn't have, better, elsewhere.
For much of the same reason, with the Xbox ecosystem. I want the backward compatibility with the original xbox and 360 libraries; so a Series S does nothing for me. But the proprietary storage of the Series X is an immediate turn-off.
And none of this matters, when one still can't even just walk into a given store and buy one off the shelf of any flavor. Still cannot find a (disc) PS5 or Series X, and that's been an issue since launch. Not sure how Gamestop even has any second-hand units, because I've never once seen them available new. Nevermind that Gamestop _at best_ has about 12 months of operating capital left before they default and have to shut down regardless of remaining inventory, but that's neither here nor there.
My gripe with intel since 12th gen, is the hybrid cores basically force me into Windows 11. "Well, you can use it on Windows 10"... no, no you cannot. intel has made a point to *not* fix the broken threading behavior it does on 10; so in order to use a 12th gen or newer intel on Windows 10, I have to disable the error cores anyway. "but, but, those are real cores" ... again, no they are not. Even in the best case, they are six generations behind in terms of IPC, and lack hyper threading. Also, enabling *any* of those e cores gimps your upper limit on clocking the p cores or the uncore (ring/cache/etc) clocks dramatically. So far, not a single sound card I care to use has drivers to work on Windows 11; not from the manufacturer, anyway. Meaning, any sound solution that works in Windows 11, is a net downgrade for my use case. This also doesn't factor that at best, intel is still only selling 8 core chips if I want to continue using Windows 10.
Also, we've been exposed to the "hybrid" cores thing for years now, on phones. With that in context, such hybrid designs are simply not performant, ever. They age dramatically fast; so my experience with them on phones has me biased towards thinking that they won't last a blip in performance for a desktop system.
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I'm in the uk but i built my pc with a budget of around £500-600 in 2020, the reason why i ended up going with that budget was because i had already bought a gpu, rx 570 4gb and realised my amd fx 4300, could not run that card and old hdds were starting to be a real problem, the pc i had then was from 2013.
Amd bulldozer 4300
4gb ram
amd 6600 2gb gpu
prebuilt for £485
If i remember rightly the new build was something like
r7 2700x £150
Mortar max b450 Mobo £90
16gb ddr4 vengeance ram £60
WD Blue Sn550 500gb boot nvme £75
CiT Blaze pc case £60
Corsair 750w psu £60
The gpu i paid £140 i think
Since then it has had some changes
3060ti £645, No, i have no idea why i paid that much, feel free to make jokes.
2tb Crucial p3 m.2 £0
32gb ram kit £45 (total cost after selling old ram kit)
r7 5700x £160
wd blue 1tb sata m.2 £100
I think that's all
the phrase, buy it nice or buy it twice, comes to mind, next time i plan to double the budget atleast and think ahead a little more when i pick the components.
Dont worry about the 3060ti price. They were over 1000 € for quite a while. And we talk about a multiple year period with only rising prices. It is hard to sit that out with old hardware as life goes by.