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Well, liquid metal + active cooling combo makes wonders. Sadly Asus went by the regular plain (boring) phone way, while still costs like 1,5x of Redmagic's price.
th-cam.com/video/Mqzv87pQ8h4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NO1mYaJfmYB9OvFl HUAWEI Mate 60 pro Kirin 9000s 7nm vs iphone 15 pro max Apple a17 pro 3nm both is from 2023 and HUAWEI is Years better, i think 16 pro max would lose to old mate 60 pro
@@ranmark4408 if you didn't know, the Asus ROG Phone 9 has a larger evaporation chamber, there is a radiator, as well as a garfen film on the back cover. Do not forget that the Asus ROG Phone 9 has 8 elite overclocked, unlike ZTE Nubia RedMagic 10 Pro!
just as i expected red magic has always been the king at gaming when it comes to deliver stable and high frame rate well if we dont talk about when they used snapdragon 888
@sylbella.k.atahta.9547 kinda yes but 888 was like the worst chipset they ever made like no imrpvemtnts over 865 and so bad. 8 gen 1 the red magic could tame
I’m glad that these chipsets like the a18 pro, dimensity 9400, and the 8 elite are really close in performance. One chip might have a certain advantage over the other. As a consumer I think it’s a win-win to have these companies compete to put out the best product.
Not with all devices Redmagic is a beast and active fan help a lot Same for ROG Gaming phone always win no matter what But if you put Iphone 16 Pro Max against a Samsung or Xiaomi with Snap Elite, Iphone will win cause regular devices will overheat
@@KaystFPS 8elite is actually much cooler than previous snapdragon versions because of its new architecture. Even in just regular usage its much cooler than most phones including iphones
Only in benchmark bro but if you play regular games like genshin impact it use 4.8 Watts but in benchmark its use 15 watts lmao and up to 52 C° that is really Crazy and about xiaomi 15 I already see a lot of tests compare the previous one it only overheats when you use benchmark but playing games heavy demanding games it's 60 to 58 FPS And only using 5.5 Watts compare the previous generation that use 7 watts on Xiaomi 14 and plus it only takes 5 minutes to get really hot and start to thermal throttling, 8 elite is more efficient than 8 gen 3 without using efficiency cores because it doesn't have any@@glorious240fps6
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@@52_RoninThat's not glazing, dude. Iphones weren't really made for gamers and dont have proper active cooling like all the gamer phones do. So yes, it is impressive.
Keep in mind that iPhones start to throttle performance significantly after about 10 minutes of gaming, with noticeable throttling beginning around 8 minutes during testing. iPhones aren't as impressive as they might seem in this regard. The performance difference becomes much more noticeable if you play for 30 minutes or longer.
That's an issue specific to you then. There've been tests of over 10mins and throttling wasn't shown. Also, if that was true for everyone, it wouldn't be recommended for gaming as much as it is. Either you're just an Apple hater or your phone has a problem.
@@Sc5chAm I? Many people have already reported throttling issues on iPhones, not only in Wuthering Waves but also in Warzone Mobile. The tests here are being performed for only 10 minutes, which doesn’t reflect real-life performance. iPhones have always struggled with thermal management, and they still do.
Yeah I wish Dame's tests were longer, but I could see why he'd keep them short. Making 30 min - 1 hour videos for 2 devices can be tedious and annoying.
I saw on Twitter/X you said iPhone had slightly higher resolution in the game. Why didn’t you mention this in the video? I think this is important information and could be the reason why iPhone has higher power draw. 🤔
@@zk-vd6uy OnePlus phones have an option to upscale the resolution in any game to 1.5k without losing any performance thanks to a display chip and I am sure the newer 8E chip has that built in and no one is glazing android for that ... Realme OnePlus iqoo all those have this feature and I am sure the red magic and rog phones have this feature to even frame rate interpolation which I have on my OnePlus 12 and yet you don't see android users glazing over that 🤦♂️
The iPhone really impressive It's not a gaming smartphone but hold the fps better than Samsung always For some reason Samsung smartphone so terrible in games Fps drop to 40-45 and stay on it in s24 ultra on wuthering waves Unlike other smartphones like vivo x100 ultra it keeps at 60fps on wuthering waves with same snapdragon 8gen3
@gockartzz8272 I think there is something off Samsung smartphones cooling methods is bad but not that bad to make snapdragon 8gen3 throttling and dropping fps to below 50fps and do some 1 second frames drop to even 30fps and back again to whatever It was between 40-50, The throttling always there even with gos off I think Samsung didn't move on from note 7 situation until now and they fear battery explosion That's the only thing I can think about I mean snapdragon 8gen3 can do stable 55-60fps in wuthering waves without throttling and dropping fps on vivo and most of Chinese smartphones But on only Samsung it decided to throttling and frames dropping So suspicious
@yazouruaim694 we can't put tablets against smartphones Because ipad m1 from 2020 destroy both iPhone 16 pro max and redmagic 10 pro in wuthering waves + iPad run it on 1600p unlike smartphones on 720p , Samsung smartphones have that thing it's not about overheating because iPhone have no cooling at all but look at it flawless 60fps
@@GameRTmaster That's m1, buddy. That type of comparison is just nonsense. M series is a computer CPUS. My comparison is both mobile chipset made by the same company with only difference is the one in Tab s9 is a year behind but still faster. Lastly, based on benchmark A18 is faster than M1.
@@ranjitmandal1612 no, there is a metalfx option in the settings which upscales the resolution, so it became much clearer on the screen. It also adds extra stress to the system
I’d actually be interested to see the performance of the RedMagic without the fan. The GPU usage being that low makes me wonder if they are slightly overclocking the CPU, given that they definitely can with all that thermal headroom.
One thing that was missed is that MetalFX is ON on the iPhone. So this is a very slightly unfair test as MetalFX usually bogs down the 1% lows due to it being AI and NPU based
@ just for context, sometimes the 1% lows in Genshin impact are as low as like 10 fps for a small moment when loading into a new region when metalFX is on. This isn’t the case if it’s off, as MetalFX has to orient itself into upscaling the new frames on the device.
I'm getting the SD Elite smartphone soon, I'll be testing too from my end but so far yea, SDElite is impressive when it comes to power draw. I checked on another video where IQOO 13 on WuWa only draws 3.8w of power and outputs the same 59fps average. So this "so-called" gaming device is actually performing worse than others. Either way, I'll be doing my own tests soon.
The fact that the red magic has the r3 chip inside which essentially does frame generation is massive, you could essentially run the game at 120 fps at 5.4w power draw vs iphone using more power to run the game at 60 fps. I would have said red magic could run it at 60 fps but only use the power draw of 30 fps but, I think we all know that frame gen only works properly with minimum 60 fps.
The 8 elite really is impressive man.. It would be interesting to see some tests including frame interpolation for genshin impact for example, since the iphone 16 pro max cant hold the 120fps for long, i've seen other reviews claiming that the 8 elite can hold 120fps with frame interpolation on without throttling
Can i ask u something?? What is the resolution 10 pro is running... I always see that Android always run games like genshin wuwa in lower resolution than iphone is it the same case for 10 pro too? I can't see properly in a video unless there numbers showing
Hello Dame, thank you very much for the excellent comparison, I wanted to know your opinion that the game on iPhone was smoother and more natural or redmagic?
If an Android phone's performance is 10% better than an iPhone's, its chip might be 15-30% more powerful because Android games are often poorly optimized, making the chip work harder.
It's not optimization. Android doesn't have proper graphics API. iPhones use Metal API, Androids use OpenGL. Metal is a much better API that can fully utilize the hardware and balance power distribution. OpenGL is an ancient API with very basic power handling. So it's actually android's fault for lagging behind iPhone, don't blame the game developers.
@@glorious240fps6 android is not lagging lil bro 💀 did you watch the video where he emulated resident evil a real PC game on red magic 9 pro while the iphone ran the watered down potato graphics version specifically made for iphone ??? And yet the red magic 9 pro kept up while looking 10 times better AND TRULY emulating the game literally emulating real PC complex textures
Why on iphone 15 pro max in your video at the same settings and resolution gpu usage vas 59%, and now on iphone 16 pm its an 81%. Seems very strange, or settings is not equal? Answer pls
Can you also compare wuwa with sd 8 elite and 8 gen 3 i want to see how much its worth the improvement. If its possible you could get your hands on dimensity 9400 that would be great too
Sth doesn't add up. I knew the redmagic would be superior but not to this extent tho. I hate to ask this but like did you double check to see of the resolutions were the same or not?
The power draw is not a fair comparison. Every SOC has increased power draw the higher it goes in temps. The iPhone likely had MUCH higher temp considering its passively cooled. This test proves sustained performance, which is obviously going to be better on active cooling even if the chip is worse. Also you are quoting MINIMUM FPS, not 1% low. Minimum FPS can be a single stutter during 20 minutes of gameplay. The 1% low is not calculated that way. Would be interesting to see 120FPS limit for both devices. iPhone on passive cooling once, and on active cooling for comparison purposes.
@@Rockito912 Apple consume less power not because passive cooling but Apple silicon and Ios was more power efficient per watt then Lagdragon and Spydroid 🤣 Turks There are reason why Turks locked behind iron wall in Ergenekon valley for hundred of years because their lack of Intelligence 🤣
Bro... This is just a 10min test. In a 10min test, manual cooling doesn't demonstrate a significant power consumption reduction effect. Instead, you should know that activating the cooling fan increases power consumption by only 0.5W. The increased power consumption due to passive cooling for the 8e is 5.4W, and for the iPhone 16pm is 6.4W. The iPhone is not as efficient compared to the 8e.
Is it just me or not? Why iphone fps feel smoother than red magic despite both having the same fps? I can see some little lag in red magic and doesn't feel smooth Must be devs optimtzing iphone
It seems like Snapdragon has finally surpassed iPhones in performance. This video is easier to appreciate with context as the previous generation struggled with WuWa for extended periods on max settings. The iPhone 16 Pro had a slight improvement but the 15 Pro performed better than the previous Snapdragon model. So it went from a low of around 40 to 48 fps and it increased the average FPS. On iPhones, the battery does impact how long you could keep the performance going. Keep in mind that WuWa is more optimized for iPhone so it is given an advantage. Meanwhile, the Snapdragon 8 Elite has made strides. It went from a low of mid 30s to a stable 58 FPS. It not only leaves the previous Snapdragon chipset in the dust but it also decisively wins against the iPhone 16 Pro, winning in FPS drops, temperature, GPU and battery on the Red Magic 10 Pro. It shows why the "very high" resolution is only available for the Elite. WuWa performance tends to suffer more during the co-op events, raids and some story events. Overall, this is great news for WuWa fans and for the industry in general.
I agree! The only big question is will Samsung follow RedMagic’s lead. This is my main question and excitement for next month. I really hope Samsung can deliver. What RedMagic has done is very impressive, but what will be even more impressive is for a non-gaming phone to pull off this same performance and efficiency. Next month will be very exciting.
@@Rockito912 everything was rendering on server not in your small sacks unfortunately all you needed was fast internet connection not Powerfull GPu duh .
Could you make a tutorial to enable the metal performance hud on ios or " fps meter " ? For some reason doesn't appear on the latest version of ios available, can't find the xcode app on the store and there's no developer options on settings
So iOS no longer is the most optimized for gaming. First it was just raw performance of androids being better without optimization, but now they have both?
yes its still the most optimised for gaming but this is a gaming phone. ifwe put the iphone aganst any other normal android it might actually win tho hard to say
@@gockartzz8272Dunno (atleast on the efficiency side)... The power consumption on Red Magic with the fan on was ~1 watt lower than the iPhone. Phones without a fan would probably have even lower power draw.
So the conclusion is: The 8 Elite GPU is more powerful as well as energy efficient than the A18 Pro. 😮 *But all depends on the optimization of the games or apps…
I agree. It really all depends on the phone. I've seen opposite results with other SD elite devices like iQOO 13 or Xiaomi 15. I just hope Samsung follows RedMagic formula.
Not only you get lower power consumption, the battery capacity in the RedMagic is much bigger, you would get a 70-75% more battery life playing that game in the RedMagic. First time I seen a phone clearly win against the iphone
Its not shocking that the gaming phone performed better at gaming tho is it😅 would be interesting to know if there would be a differense if the iphone had cooling tho. Clearly the red phone is a gaming beast😎
Hey i also wanna admit that samsung lowers its performance when it gets over 44 degrees, you can turn it off from the gaming hub> game booster> labs (u will see it turned off, just turn it on) but in case u will reach higher degrees, hope it will help u
iPhone 16 Pro Max battery capacity 4685 mAh RefMagic 10 Pro has a battery capacity of 6500 mAh and it consumes even less energy when playing even with a fan..
iPhone can't beat the 8E. It's losing to the 8E in both performance and efficiency across all games. Except for a few games like WZ that aren't yet optimized for the 8E, the 8E is likely to win in almost every game
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Alright I might buy lol. Should I get 12gb version or 16gb? Also do you think RedMagic is better than iPad Mini 7?
love the comparison using WW.. you earn a sub!!!
Nice
@@Couchtalk808both are fine but i think 16 one would be a bit further proof
th-cam.com/video/Mqzv87pQ8h4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NO1mYaJfmYB9OvFl HUAWEI Mate 60 pro Kirin 9000s 7nm vs iphone 15 pro max Apple a17 pro 3nm both is from 2023 and HUAWEI is Years better, i think 16 pro max would lose to old mate 60 pro
light work 😏
You got one more product sold 😂
2 years OS updates vs iphones 7 years 💀💀💀
@@johnboona4048it's 6 year. And $650 vs $1200
You guys got 1 more customer
@@johnboona4048bro thinks we need updates to play games
1:54 look at redmagic he's peeking in the characters cheeks 😭 🙏
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same
Thank you both!
@@DameTech wuwa is a very demanding game to a mobile user.
Its the new "Crysis", whenever you buy a phone, you should way, can it run Wuwa?
that screen without camera hole is perfect!
Iphone user.. but Agreed my brother.
@@mrdracula4090 same, but credit where credit's due
144hz with 7050 mah battery is insane
Wow, it's looking like Redmagic did it so far. They tamed the 8 Elite. Better than the latest ROG phone.
Well, liquid metal + active cooling combo makes wonders. Sadly Asus went by the regular plain (boring) phone way, while still costs like 1,5x of Redmagic's price.
@@ranmark4408 they even add a thermal paste to the cooling system wow😮
i hope redmagic stays on their track and not let the reputation build their ego, they're the cheapest and the highest performance phones right now
th-cam.com/video/Mqzv87pQ8h4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NO1mYaJfmYB9OvFl HUAWEI Mate 60 pro Kirin 9000s 7nm vs iphone 15 pro max Apple a17 pro 3nm both is from 2023 and HUAWEI is Years better, i think 16 pro max would lose to old mate 60 pro
@@ranmark4408 if you didn't know, the Asus ROG Phone 9 has a larger evaporation chamber, there is a radiator, as well as a garfen film on the back cover. Do not forget that the Asus ROG Phone 9 has 8 elite overclocked, unlike ZTE Nubia RedMagic 10 Pro!
Impressive test. Would love to see a test with another 8 Elite device like the Oneplus 13, which doesn't have active cooling like the Redmagic does.
Gave chance for iqoo
One plus even underclock their cpu
Best gaming performance comparison I have seen, very thorough covered all the important things. Thank you subscribed!
just as i expected red magic has always been the king at gaming when it comes to deliver stable and high frame rate well if we dont talk about when they used snapdragon 888
Isn't the Redmagic the one who can tame Snapdragon 888?
@@sylbella.k.atahta.9547Yes they did.
@sylbella.k.atahta.9547 kinda yes but 888 was like the worst chipset they ever made like no imrpvemtnts over 865 and so bad. 8 gen 1 the red magic could tame
@sylbella.k.atahta.9547no, I have a snapdragon 888 phone from them, and it's hot af every time I play these kinds of games
Thank you for testing the WUWA game. Other places can't do this. Even though this game is very resource intensive.
You’re welcome! This game is definitely a beast for the hardware.
I’m glad that these chipsets like the a18 pro, dimensity 9400, and the 8 elite are really close in performance. One chip might have a certain advantage over the other. As a consumer I think it’s a win-win to have these companies compete to put out the best product.
Finally a grown man who understands everything. 🫰
8elite is the fucking boss. That's great bro, I hope you can bring the comparison against warzone and carxstret
Not with all devices
Redmagic is a beast and active fan help a lot
Same for ROG
Gaming phone always win no matter what
But if you put Iphone 16 Pro Max against a Samsung or Xiaomi with Snap Elite, Iphone will win cause regular devices will overheat
@@KaystFPS 8elite is actually much cooler than previous snapdragon versions because of its new architecture. Even in just regular usage its much cooler than most phones including iphones
@@paimog9233 true but when pushed, it gets much hotter than the iPhone as well.
Only in benchmark bro but if you play regular games like genshin impact it use 4.8 Watts but in benchmark its use 15 watts lmao and up to 52 C° that is really
Crazy and about xiaomi 15 I already see a lot of tests compare the previous one it only overheats when you use benchmark but playing games heavy demanding games it's 60 to 58 FPS And only using 5.5 Watts compare the previous generation that use 7 watts on Xiaomi 14 and plus it only takes 5 minutes to get really hot and start to thermal throttling,
8 elite is more efficient than 8 gen 3 without using efficiency cores because it doesn't have any@@glorious240fps6
@@glorious240fps6 Also No. th-cam.com/video/AU0cFNl-WIo/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for using wuthering wave into the test
You're welcome! I hope the test was helpful.
59.5 avg while consuming 6.2w! And 59.4 avg while only consuming 5.4w! Gaming king indeed!
Also red magic only did 60% GPU usage while iphone is 80%.
Question is the difference in resolution and graphics quality...
@@lukabosnjak3829sadly nobody mentions this
@@lukabosnjak3829 the resolution is only 90p higher in iOS which isn't that high, they have the same graphics quality.
@@tsgmilangaming6512 really not that big of a deal to talk about
tiis is the video ive been lookin for. godo job man
Thank you!
same bro, here is more detailed info for WUWA 30min perfomance on different devices (SD8E/dimensity 9400/S8G3/A18pro GkJCWncZbJc?t=628
the fact that the Iphone is even competing with these dedicated gaming devices is so impressive
Yeah that’s very impressive
yeah as if this isnt top of the line flagship, delusional glazers
Yeah as if this isn't top of the line flagship, delusional glazers
and its not competing, watch until the end.
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@@52_RoninThat's not glazing, dude. Iphones weren't really made for gamers and dont have proper active cooling like all the gamer phones do. So yes, it is impressive.
Impressive in what? It lost, watch until the end
Perfect benchmark! Well done man
I like this kind of comparison not just a gameplay. New subscriber here🎉
@@ltg46 great to have you here!
Damn as expected proper and most detailed review which covers everything. Cant wait for s25 series review ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Keep in mind that iPhones start to throttle performance significantly after about 10 minutes of gaming, with noticeable throttling beginning around 8 minutes during testing. iPhones aren't as impressive as they might seem in this regard. The performance difference becomes much more noticeable if you play for 30 minutes or longer.
That's an issue specific to you then. There've been tests of over 10mins and throttling wasn't shown. Also, if that was true for everyone, it wouldn't be recommended for gaming as much as it is. Either you're just an Apple hater or your phone has a problem.
@@Sc5chAm I? Many people have already reported throttling issues on iPhones, not only in Wuthering Waves but also in Warzone Mobile. The tests here are being performed for only 10 minutes, which doesn’t reflect real-life performance. iPhones have always struggled with thermal management, and they still do.
@@Sc5ch just accept the fact that iphones overheat 🤦♂️ stop coping hard
Yeah I wish Dame's tests were longer, but I could see why he'd keep them short. Making 30 min - 1 hour videos for 2 devices can be tedious and annoying.
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Your comparison is really amazing, I checked your other videos and I subbed immediately...I'm buying the redmagic soon
Still pre order in Malaysia,will be coming in January.
Can't wait..
I saw on Twitter/X you said iPhone had slightly higher resolution in the game. Why didn’t you mention this in the video? I think this is important information and could be the reason why iPhone has higher power draw. 🤔
Copium
@@El_Goblino_he's right iPhone has metalfx which upscale the resolution and draw more power
@@zk-vd6uy OnePlus phones have an option to upscale the resolution in any game to 1.5k without losing any performance thanks to a display chip and I am sure the newer 8E chip has that built in and no one is glazing android for that ... Realme OnePlus iqoo all those have this feature and I am sure the red magic and rog phones have this feature to even frame rate interpolation which I have on my OnePlus 12 and yet you don't see android users glazing over that 🤦♂️
The iPhone really impressive
It's not a gaming smartphone but hold the fps better than Samsung always
For some reason Samsung smartphone so terrible in games
Fps drop to 40-45 and stay on it in s24 ultra on wuthering waves
Unlike other smartphones like vivo x100 ultra it keeps at 60fps on wuthering waves with same snapdragon 8gen3
samsung has always been bad in gaming well kinda only a few ones where good in gaming
@gockartzz8272 I think there is something off
Samsung smartphones cooling methods is bad but not that bad to make snapdragon 8gen3 throttling and dropping fps to below 50fps and do some 1 second frames drop to even 30fps and back again to whatever It was between 40-50,
The throttling always there even with gos off
I think Samsung didn't move on from note 7 situation until now and they fear battery explosion
That's the only thing I can think about
I mean snapdragon 8gen3 can do stable 55-60fps in wuthering waves without throttling and dropping fps on vivo and most of Chinese smartphones
But on only Samsung it decided to throttling and frames dropping
So suspicious
8 gen 2 in Samsung S9 tab outperformed S24 Ultra. It's definitely about overheating
@yazouruaim694 we can't put tablets against smartphones
Because ipad m1 from 2020 destroy both iPhone 16 pro max and redmagic 10 pro in wuthering waves + iPad run it on 1600p unlike smartphones on 720p ,
Samsung smartphones have that thing it's not about overheating because iPhone have no cooling at all but look at it flawless 60fps
@@GameRTmaster That's m1, buddy. That type of comparison is just nonsense. M series is a computer CPUS. My comparison is both mobile chipset made by the same company with only difference is the one in Tab s9 is a year behind but still faster.
Lastly, based on benchmark A18 is faster than M1.
I can see that iPhone had metal fx turned on, isn’t that should be off for fair comparison?
😂😂😂 smartphone vs gamingphone gaming gaming 😂😂😂😂
Nope all apple product rely on metal fx they can't run other APIs decent like other chips can
@@datblade6877yet it's cheaper than that 🤣
@@ranjitmandal1612 no, there is a metalfx option in the settings which upscales the resolution, so it became much clearer on the screen. It also adds extra stress to the system
@@SheIIotI thought it was same performance at lower stress or improved performance at same stress? That how metalfx is supposed to work right?
2 phones, 2 stoves, 2 flagship ranges of this year
Since there is MetalFX on, you should try a comparison with the ai enhanced image quality on red magic (apparently there is also a 120 fps option)
Unfortunately not yet with RedMagic. It seems only genshin and honkai
Genshin test someday? 👀@@DameTech
@DameTech i wouldd love to see you test Punishing Gray Raven again
this is the video I've been waiting for a long time for the appearance of the gaming king
I’d actually be interested to see the performance of the RedMagic without the fan. The GPU usage being that low makes me wonder if they are slightly overclocking the CPU, given that they definitely can with all that thermal headroom.
One thing that was missed is that MetalFX is ON on the iPhone. So this is a very slightly unfair test as MetalFX usually bogs down the 1% lows due to it being AI and NPU based
Fair point, I didn’t notice until after testing
@ just for context, sometimes the 1% lows in Genshin impact are as low as like 10 fps for a small moment when loading into a new region when metalFX is on. This isn’t the case if it’s off, as MetalFX has to orient itself into upscaling the new frames on the device.
True
@@DameTechwill you be redoing the test? Or nah
@@AJ0706T probably when some other 8 elite phone comes out
what mic do you use in your intro, it sounds very crisp
I actually use my iPad Pro. I’ll either do a voiceover over my video or have it recording my voice while I record the video.
Great test as always, can't wait for the wzm test !
I'm getting the SD Elite smartphone soon, I'll be testing too from my end but so far yea, SDElite is impressive when it comes to power draw. I checked on another video where IQOO 13 on WuWa only draws 3.8w of power and outputs the same 59fps average. So this "so-called" gaming device is actually performing worse than others. Either way, I'll be doing my own tests soon.
Bro, so glad that youve pisted this! Youve made may day.
Cant wait to see more of this series❤🎉
It'll not be surprising that the result in this video would go out to be one of the most talked about on tech X this month 😂.
Now want iPhone with a fan
The fact that the red magic has the r3 chip inside which essentially does frame generation is massive, you could essentially run the game at 120 fps at 5.4w power draw vs iphone using more power to run the game at 60 fps. I would have said red magic could run it at 60 fps but only use the power draw of 30 fps but, I think we all know that frame gen only works properly with minimum 60 fps.
The 8 elite really is impressive man..
It would be interesting to see some tests including frame interpolation for genshin impact for example, since the iphone 16 pro max cant hold the 120fps for long, i've seen other reviews claiming that the 8 elite can hold 120fps with frame interpolation on without throttling
The test i am waiting for 🔥
Can i ask u something?? What is the resolution 10 pro is running... I always see that Android always run games like genshin wuwa in lower resolution than iphone is it the same case for 10 pro too? I can't see properly in a video unless there numbers showing
RedMagic is running 718p at high while iPhone is 786p at high resolution
@@DameTech Ru gonna release genshin too? As it will be the only major factor i will decide should i import red magic or not
Solid performance from both very excited to see how dev utilizes this power if they choose to do now we defending need some pc port in android side 😅
I doubt we will see exclusive PC ports on android until Google adds more security and piracy restrictions.
@@DameTecheasy
adding denuvo like pc
problem solved
@@DameTech I doubt it, just look at how many people avoid Denuvo on their PCs.
@@yagerq no. Please we don't like that crap spyware.
Hello Dame, thank you very much for the excellent comparison, I wanted to know your opinion that the game on iPhone was smoother and more natural or redmagic?
If an Android phone's performance is 10% better than an iPhone's, its chip might be 15-30% more powerful because Android games are often poorly optimized, making the chip work harder.
It's not optimization. Android doesn't have proper graphics API. iPhones use Metal API, Androids use OpenGL. Metal is a much better API that can fully utilize the hardware and balance power distribution. OpenGL is an ancient API with very basic power handling. So it's actually android's fault for lagging behind iPhone, don't blame the game developers.
@@glorious240fps6 android is not lagging lil bro 💀 did you watch the video where he emulated resident evil a real PC game on red magic 9 pro while the iphone ran the watered down potato graphics version specifically made for iphone ??? And yet the red magic 9 pro kept up while looking 10 times better AND TRULY emulating the game literally emulating real PC complex textures
Keep cope @@glorious240fps6
@@glorious240fps6 its entirely developers fault since vulkan is way better than opengl and only a few devs have shifted to vulkan
Ye
I see why snapdragon named it elite. It truly deserves it. Outperforming the apple cpu in both power and efficiency is a commendable feat.
Why on iphone 15 pro max in your video at the same settings and resolution gpu usage vas 59%, and now on iphone 16 pm its an 81%. Seems very strange, or settings is not equal? Answer pls
Increased res and graphics in new update. Also res is higher than RedMagic with iPhone
@DameTech Thanks, so what is the resolution on redmagic? 720p?
Can you also compare wuwa with sd 8 elite and 8 gen 3 i want to see how much its worth the improvement. If its possible you could get your hands on dimensity 9400 that would be great too
Finally Snapdragon 8 elite performance more powerful for GPU than bionik A18 pro 👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
More videos coming soon
Did you watch the video?😅
Kuro optimized this game further, do you have ps5 brother? You can make one more video over this when ps5 version drops
Why does the motion/movement of ios more fluid/smooth than android?
Correct. It's like android is 30-50fps and averaging in 30
WZM test needed after reloaded update btw nice and detailed video
Yes! That is the plan. Video/test should be uploaded Friday morning.
Test warzone mobile with both phones at lest 1h, very interesting to see the results
TEST WITH IQOO 13 ALSO 🔥
Sth doesn't add up. I knew the redmagic would be superior but not to this extent tho. I hate to ask this but like did you double check to see of the resolutions were the same or not?
Yeah I checked after the video and resolution is higher on iPhone
@@DameTech to what extent tho? Because if it's slightly higher than that matters less I guess
@@jarjarbinks8954 I think roughly 100p but not counting horizontal. Sorry I was in a rush to make the video and didn’t realize until it was too late
Interesting to note is that iphone consumed less power at 5.2 watts in high resolution in previous testing with s24 ultra
Since then resolution has been increased for both android n ios
@@mujeebhamid2670 no he mentioned on X that res is near 780 and in that test res was 864p
i wouldd love to see you test Punishing Gray Raven again some day ❤
The power draw is not a fair comparison.
Every SOC has increased power draw the higher it goes in temps. The iPhone likely had MUCH higher temp considering its passively cooled.
This test proves sustained performance, which is obviously going to be better on active cooling even if the chip is worse.
Also you are quoting MINIMUM FPS, not 1% low. Minimum FPS can be a single stutter during 20 minutes of gameplay. The 1% low is not calculated that way.
Would be interesting to see 120FPS limit for both devices. iPhone on passive cooling once, and on active cooling for comparison purposes.
@@Rockito912 Apple consume less power not because passive cooling but Apple silicon and Ios was more power efficient per watt then Lagdragon and Spydroid 🤣 Turks
There are reason why Turks locked behind iron wall in Ergenekon valley for hundred of years because their lack of Intelligence 🤣
Bro... This is just a 10min test. In a 10min test, manual cooling doesn't demonstrate a significant power consumption reduction effect. Instead, you should know that activating the cooling fan increases power consumption by only 0.5W. The increased power consumption due to passive cooling for the 8e is 5.4W, and for the iPhone 16pm is 6.4W. The iPhone is not as efficient compared to the 8e.
Lmao study the fan design and see how much it cools
What is resolution in this game?
Is it just me or not?
Why iphone fps feel smoother than red magic despite both having the same fps?
I can see some little lag in red magic and doesn't feel smooth
Must be devs optimtzing iphone
It seems like Snapdragon has finally surpassed iPhones in performance. This video is easier to appreciate with context as the previous generation struggled with WuWa for extended periods on max settings.
The iPhone 16 Pro had a slight improvement but the 15 Pro performed better than the previous Snapdragon model. So it went from a low of around 40 to 48 fps and it increased the average FPS. On iPhones, the battery does impact how long you could keep the performance going. Keep in mind that WuWa is more optimized for iPhone so it is given an advantage.
Meanwhile, the Snapdragon 8 Elite has made strides. It went from a low of mid 30s to a stable 58 FPS. It not only leaves the previous Snapdragon chipset in the dust but it also decisively wins against the iPhone 16 Pro, winning in FPS drops, temperature, GPU and battery on the Red Magic 10 Pro. It shows why the "very high" resolution is only available for the Elite.
WuWa performance tends to suffer more during the co-op events, raids and some story events. Overall, this is great news for WuWa fans and for the industry in general.
I agree! The only big question is will Samsung follow RedMagic’s lead. This is my main question and excitement for next month. I really hope Samsung can deliver. What RedMagic has done is very impressive, but what will be even more impressive is for a non-gaming phone to pull off this same performance and efficiency. Next month will be very exciting.
Efficiency now on the android side! 😊
Took over a decade
@@EricDejuanOOOAgreed... I wouldn't recommend anyone an Android phone unless it's a 2025 / late 2024 flagship phone.
Only because of the dedicated cooling system of the Redmagic. Other android phones - no
Yeah on wuthering waves but can it beat 120 fps on genshin impact?
And Without using Efficiency chords because it doesn't have any.
I plan to get 16 pro, but after i see your video, im sold on red magic, 24/1Tb, and also half the price of iphone 😂
can you make a video about the z fold 6 gaming performance?
А где симметрика рамок вокруг экрана? Опять нижняя не симметрична у Red magic. У айфона всё супер в этом плане.
Hello! If you do the gaming test in genshin can you make every setting the same?
im kinda worried about the dust pilling up on the spinning fan.
This phone doesnt look like its designed to age well...
Why in online games in mobile run at low resolution ,graphics and low fps while in pc you could run at hight graphic 4k 120fps 8k even ?
The modt stupid commentary today 🤦
The cpu is very close to pc's, but the gpu's are not even close lol
@@druidanegro4090 why needed powerfull GPU when playing online games ??
@@Mrorlgloth Why need a monitor when playing online games?!? Why need a PC at all? Just insert the LAN cable in your eyeball!?!
@@Rockito912 everything was rendering on server not in your small sacks unfortunately all you needed was fast internet connection not Powerfull GPu duh .
I want to see more pc games compiled to smartphones
Which version of Red Magic was used here? The 12gb + 256gb?
Could you make a tutorial to enable the metal performance hud on ios or " fps meter " ? For some reason doesn't appear on the latest version of ios available, can't find the xcode app on the store and there's no developer options on settings
I think he did on his discord channel or maybe he did a community post. But I do remember seeing something about this from dame.
@Couchtalk808 hopefully there's a tutorial without a mac or pc just the iphone itself without a beta ios version
@@RubenNeves22I think that’s what he does. He has a special method I believe
@Couchtalk808 hopefully there's a link
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so finally a gaming android phone beats iphone by a slight margin(considering temps and power consumption) as fps are same on both.
Thanks for this video ❤
Its not Water Resistant tho, a bit of water from rain inside that Fan region and its fcking Dead, Dead Magic Pro
Lol true 😂
iphone is so expensive it beat 99 percent of phones in the terms of HIGH PRICE
So iOS no longer is the most optimized for gaming. First it was just raw performance of androids being better without optimization, but now they have both?
yes its still the most optimised for gaming but this is a gaming phone. ifwe put the iphone aganst any other normal android it might actually win tho hard to say
@@gockartzz8272Dunno (atleast on the efficiency side)... The power consumption on Red Magic with the fan on was ~1 watt lower than the iPhone.
Phones without a fan would probably have even lower power draw.
iOS is still more optimized in general. No other android device will perform as well as the Redmagic. Not even the latest ROG.
Redmagic has an amazing cooling system while being able to use the snapdragon 8 elite much better than any other phone so far
@@phothewin6019Stop the 🧢...you clearly haven't watched snapdragon 8elite killing it in multiple android devices this month 😂
So the conclusion is: The 8 Elite GPU is more powerful as well as energy efficient than the A18 Pro. 😮
*But all depends on the optimization of the games or apps…
I agree. It really all depends on the phone. I've seen opposite results with other SD elite devices like iQOO 13 or Xiaomi 15. I just hope Samsung follows RedMagic formula.
Where are there videos @@DameTech
Facts! I really didn't expect the results to be good in rm10.
Please do the same test and both with coolers, I think the result would change quite a bit.
Not only you get lower power consumption, the battery capacity in the RedMagic is much bigger, you would get a 70-75% more battery life playing that game in the RedMagic. First time I seen a phone clearly win against the iphone
Do a 120 fps test on ipad pro M4
That is a great idea. I will add that to my list of tests!
A game thats fully optimized for android. They have my respect
And people on Supersaf mad they he named the iPhone a top 5 phone for the year. 😂
good job with the video
@@EphemeralInferno Thank you
Is this the first time you've tested Redmagic? You usually go with Rog phone. Great video though
I tested redmagic 7 and 8, but didn't test 9 as I decided to try ROG 8 Pro.
@DameTech Oh my bad. Can you tell me what gaming profile you had on the redmagic for this video? Like Rise or Balanced.
@@Over-mh3wr I used rise gaming profile.
Next redmagic 10 pro plus and Samsung s25 ultra waiting
Haha iPhone demolished RedMagic gaming phone in fps average. Android best gaming phone cannot still beat iPhone. Haha 😆 😂
Its not shocking that the gaming phone performed better at gaming tho is it😅 would be interesting to know if there would be a differense if the iphone had cooling tho.
Clearly the red phone is a gaming beast😎
Iphone with cooler would consume much more battery and would drastically make the phone bigger.
Yet in the past iPhone performed better than some dedicated gaming phones!
@@yazouruaim694 i mean testing with a cooler at the back. They make them
Red magic is the only android gaming phone that is good. ROG 9 pro performance is so terrible compared to red magic 10.
@@ihaveatonsofskillissueRog 10 pro is out with the same CPU and GPU as this red magic device
Hey i also wanna admit that samsung lowers its performance when it gets over 44 degrees, you can turn it off from the gaming hub> game booster> labs (u will see it turned off, just turn it on) but in case u will reach higher degrees, hope it will help u
Can you test zenless zone zero?? I kinda want this phone and if it runs zzz as well as it does wuwa then is a most
Can you make test with another games? Maybe Warzone?
iPhone 16 Pro Max battery capacity 4685 mAh RefMagic 10 Pro has a battery capacity of 6500 mAh and it consumes even less energy when playing even with a fan..
iPhone can't beat the 8E. It's losing to the 8E in both performance and efficiency across all games. Except for a few games like WZ that aren't yet optimized for the 8E, the 8E is likely to win in almost every game
I have red magic 9 and its incredible at playing my switch games everything at 40 to 70 fps even witcher 3. Please compare assassin creed on both
Plz do star rail👐🏻
Lol ironic considering wuthering waves is way more optimized for Iphone
Red magic and rog only needs optimisation. They are best for gaming
Brother how do you turn on fps meter on iphone plz tell me i want to check performance of my iohone 14 pro max
Lets see the s25 ultra vs iphone when it comes out
Warzone Mobile will be the real break dealer for me.. been team iPhone for 10+ years.
Can you do a playtest of Infinity Nikki? Because it uses unreal engine 5
Warzone mobile and carx street 🔥🔥🔥
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Many videos are coming soon!