Have had my Kia Carnival for 7 months and it was the best decision ever! It has all the bells and whistles, my kids are comfortable on long rides and the tvs are amazing! I love all the features.
The traditional center console with the traditional gear shift made me buy the Sedona. Bought it in 2016, still have it. Only issue I’ve had is the front struts, stabilizer bars and rear shocks going out this past year. None of those were covered by the extended warranty. The other issue seems to be common, one sliding door the sensor went and not even a month after getting that fixed the other door stopped closing all the way electronically. Both were covered by the extended warranty. Other than that it’s been great. I love driving it. My wife has a 2019 Sienna XLT AWD. it’s really nice but I hate driving it because it has that slim armrest instead of the center console. I just feel like I’m driving a nice SUV with the Sedona. The Sienna definitely has more room, especially with the second row sliding back much farther. Anyway. I’ll drive the Sienna at least through the warranty. I’ve only put 64,700 miles on it so far. Still have three years 3 years/35,000 miles to go. After that we’ll see. We have a lot of grandkids, so, it definitely comes in handy.
Remember....EVERYTHING comes with a price. What it will come down to is "What's important to you?". Sienna...great MPG...great. What's the price that it'll pay? The battery takes up space..which is why cargo room is much less in a Sienna than a Carnival. You're talking about 141 overall Cubic feet vs 101 cubic feet. Tell me if that's important to you. Hybrid battery is paired with an underpowered 4 Cyl and CVT, which makes the Toyota scream for more power. This isn't a problem with a proper V6, which the Carnival has. So again...everything comes with a price. To me, 35mpg is great. But I'm driving a big minivan...not a 2 door coupe. I expect power. I expect room. I expect comfort. I don't mind that it gets 22mpg. When I travel on 3 long distance trip, I got between 28-29mpg on the highway. I will take that with a proper v6 ALL day long. As for AWD? I live in MN. So AWD would be nice on snowy days. But let's facts? How many days a year are we actually driving on thick snow? Minivans have thrived for years...decades w/o AWD. I think it's another overrated item. I put snow tires on my Carnival and I will put it up against ANY AWD vans.....ALL DAY...because I know in the end, I will be able to stop faster than them. And that's how you avoid accidents. AWD doesn't help you to stop, which is the main cause of accidents in the winter time.
I’ve read multiple times that good dedicated winter tires are all u need to handle snow & ice & that AWD is overrated. Would like to hear what ppl in snowy/icey places say about this.( studs or chains are prolly best vs. sheet ice, but Blizzaks and similar seem to do well vs. ice).
@@gregsolovieff6711 i live in canada and big difference between awd and non awd. I think this guy stays in US somewhere they get snow once in a while and doesnt really know real snow and icy roads.
Hey your comment at another video brought me here! th-cam.com/video/twPQS49DxTA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Tw1ywWBian-hNTrF You had a very indepth thoughts so I figure ill give kia carnival a look since you seem to love
I had the 2021 sienna. No power. Didn't feel safe. You could run heat in the winter and have any driving power. It was a mistake to have a hybrid only especially with such a small engine
Toyota definitely the same ol reliable brand Kia was not as reliable so they are coming with designs to bring you in and you forget about how not reliable Kia actually was. It’s like fixing up a house in the hood gotta make the inside spectacular to bring ppl in to forget about what’s outside.
Our family was going to get this exact Kia Carnival but decided on the Toyota Sienna, primarily because it is a Hybrid. We felt buying a fully gas vehicle to have for the next 8-10 years was not the way to go. Especially where cars are headed. If the Kia Carnival would have offered a hybrid or electric option, we would have definitely bought it.
Ice vehicles will still be around 30 years from now. EVs will still be a niche market as long as the governments get kickbacks from the oil companies and the infrastructure is nowhere near what the governments are saying. If California and Norway and other countries tell the population to not charge up their EVs overnight because it will crash the power grid, they are not the answer. Hybrids or hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are. And gas and diesel.
The savings that will give them is entirely dependent on their own driving patterns as well as the gas industry price fluctuations. An added benefit to the hybrid is it also gets more range on a tank which is important to some people.
@@tannerarmstrong1496 my sister in law and her husband were considering the f150 hybrid as they tow a camper and he works 10 minutes from home. The ford salesman said since their towing is once a month and as he works so close to home, any gas savings would not be coming their way for at least 10 years. So they stuck with the gas only f150. Also, there is a video on TH-cam of someone doing a highway fuel economy test of the sienna hybrid and he was only able to get around 450-500 miles on a tank, where as he did one of the Honda odyssey and he was able to get 650 miles. Flat, level highway. No hills or mountains along the drive. My old boss was looking at getting a hybrid, but every salesman he talked to was telling him he wouldn’t get one for at least two years, that was Honda and Toyota. He doesn’t trust the American manufacturers or the South Koreans to build a proper car. So he stuck with a gas only suv. Gas will still be the major market player for a while regardless what people think and say.
Video was really well done, thanks for this. I especially liked the reference to certain packages having particular options AND which was offered in the previous year. For someone who doesn't know much about the 2022 model or really the different trim levels it helped immensely. Well done throughout, keep up the great work
Very helpful. Appreciate the content - comprehensive and accurate. For eg, this is the first video I've seen where the info on SX prestige having 3 row second seating has been highlghted. Thank you Drew.
I own 2021 Elantra, the only thing i hate is tires friction noise, it's not as bad as previous models. I don't know what the situation is in luxury korean cars
Kia has the more versatile interior in eight place models and better tech but that Toyota powertrain is a major advantage. Not that much slower, smooth enough expect under full throttle, and almost double the city MPG which is a huge advantage. I wish the advantages of both could be combined into one vehicle. Then it would be perfect.
I don't understand why Kia's turn signals already built down in the rear bumper, I feel like that al safety issue, no one really looks at the bumper to see a signal light blinking
I just said the same thing to my wife the other day as we ordered one of these in May. You have a beautiful LED display below the window! integrate the blinker there! If someone were to make contact to the rear end of the vehicle, now I am out turn signals most likely! Dumb.
Not having a Carnival Hybrid option is very disappointing. I put off purchasing a vehicle last year in the hopes that Kia would offer a Hybrid option. I’ve owned/leased 10 new Toyotas during the past 28 years, including 2 Sienna vans. I wasn’t impressed with Toyotas latest Sienna offering, except for the Hybrid. I’m just not sure that I can bring myself to purchase/lease the 2023 Carnival SX Prestige without a Hybrid. Shame on Kia for dropping the ball this year.
Yeah, I would have preferred a hybrid or EV version. But needed a spacious van for car seats and me being tall. It gets a low 22-24 mpg unfortunately. But it does the job I need it to do.
I think they'll upgrade in 2024 or 2025 when the Telluride's get Hybrid option as well. So far, they're all supply constraint so no point in further complicating the production.
The difference on 12,000 annual miles at $4/gallon is $772 a year or $64 a month 34 vs 22 avg MPG. What is the difference of lifecycle cocts between the Sienna and Carnival?
Question for those who own a Carnival. Which package is preferred excluding the SX Prestige? I knpw I wont like the fancy center seats because we need to access the back seats. I would love entertainment package in a standard setup. How do you like the middle row having 3 seats vs having the passthrough? For the package you have, is there anything it lacks you wish you had upgraded, or is there any upgrades you thought you'd want, but now don't utilize? I want to buy one, but i would hope to get one sooner than wait for one.
I bought the 2022 lx with seat package and love it the only thing i wish i have is the power tail gate because im not a tall woman amd sometimes it hard to reach the handle...but other than that i love it...
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I’m so bummed. I ordered the Kia carnival in August 2021. It finally arrived this month but the dealership told me the only change was it’s now a 2023 but I lost out on all the features I expected on the 2022 SX like the entertainment system and VIP lounge seats. I signed the papers but haven’t picked it up. Can I do anything?
I hope they fix the ECO Mode and the transmission issues. I have owned one since August 2021. It is my dream car. Therefore, transmission sucks and it shakes when riding it on ECO Mode. Only have 12,389 miles. If you own one, avoid the ECO Mode. Kia Carnival Forum for all the Kia Carnival owners has more information if you start having issues. I wish you all good luck with it.
I'm thinking about getting one of these pretty soon so when you say ECO mode is that optional or do they all have it and you can turn it on or off at any time.??
@@seatime674 they all have it. You can turn it off. If you are getting it, make sure the you drive it off the ECO mode to the avoid shuddering and make sure the motor/transmission was made in Korea. That will ensure the car will last longer. Some Kia transmissions are made in America and Mexico and they suck. Another tip, I use Costco (Top Tier) Premium gas and since I stop putting regular gas, van runs smoothly. Good luck!! Other than the ECO Mode, the van is amazing.
Unless the vehicle is a crappy Chrysler/ fiat or a Mitsubishi you going to pay over MSRP and that's if you can find the vehicle you want on the dealers lot....
Just can’t purchase a car without AWD. Especially not after this year when even California and Arizona had snow. I believe KIA has it in other countries. It can’t rival Sienna without it.
I dont get it .. Its "2023",Technology-wise all these car manufacturers,should have "WIRELESS" Apple/Android as Standard on most/all Models.. ( And why the upper trim doesn't, makes no sense )... Great Review Guys.. Always look forward to your Videos ..:)
I have a 2022 carnival sx prestige, doesn’t seem like much changed. Only issue I have is that the air conditioner does not get super cold in the summer, we took it to the shop 3 times and they say as long as it’s 20 degrees below ambient temp it’s working fine… but it’s not. All my other vehicles get super cold except this one
Take it to a different dealer. Some are lazy. My wife and I just leased one and her comment was that the A/C will freeze us out. And she wasn’t lying it’s been the best in our San Antonio, Texas summer!
I'm so confused 🤔 are the side panels still glossy or did they change it? Another person who reviewed this car didn't have it glossy...which is way better. I figured they must have changed it due to the amounts of fingerprints if they kept it with the glossy touch. But it seems like they didn't....
The one thing I look for is total cargo space in terms of width and length, seats folded flat. Didn't see this. Cubic feet means little when understanding what will and won't fit.
@@stevenkreiss2113 it probably will. They just don't have a EV platform for something this long for Hyundai/Kia yet. Probably after the Ionic 7 or 9 launches.
Put a 1k deposit on an LSX with a 5k markup. Three weeks later found an ex in same color we wanted with only a $1800 markup and is a 2.5 hour drive away. We will be walking away from the local dealership with the 5k markup.
Ask for your deposit back and don’t buy it. Never put deposits down. I work in car business. That’s my advice. You can walk away and legally get a refund. Tell them you have an attorney on retainer who will be sending them correspondence.
@@2004cyrus really? They said if we walk away we will lose the deposit. And This other dealership isn’t requiring a deposit to reserve the car. I’ll look into it. Thanks!
Impressive vehicle. The only thing I'd change is the Carnavale badge on the back. I'd take it off - - bad association with the cruise line. Mason, don't lose those glasses. They're a good look.
@@matthewm3912 well I’m single and travel alone lol so I’m not worried but yes I agree with you if I had a family and all of their crap to haul I would get a Honda Odyssey
Nope, that is indeed the way it's configured. You get the small and grainy screen but the better wireless abilities. All Kia and Hyundai's are like that
Go to the dealership. They will say they’ll have X Amt getting delivered and you will need to reserve it. We realized this is what they were doing a month ago when we were ready to buy
@@AlGggeee the dealership we went to had a 2022 pre owned one for sale, so we were able to test drive that. We went to another dealership (2.5 hours away) since the markup was only $1800 and they want you to use their financing in order to reserve the car. The one we went to locally wanted us to leave a non refundable $1000 deposit with a 5k markup. It’s really annoying how they are doing business right now with the carnivals
@@mimil8677 oh wow. So it's really worth it to check online for prices even if it's a few hours distance then. How did you figure out the other dealer had a better markup and easier reservation? Called them or online?
The Carnival EX+ has better features than Sienna Limited. The extra gas milage will never make up for that difference. And because the Sienna gets such shitty features, it is just another budget minivan, except it isn't actually cheaper. The Carnival has much better cost effectiveness.
Hello everyone. Just a warning. My 2009 Corolla dead at 125k miles. Was documented burning oil by 35k. Toyota said no issues with car burning.5 quart every 1,000 miles. Had manufacturers warranty and dealership “platinum “. Extended warranty. Dealership refused to do compression test. Also said they would not take another ships compression test. Car dead with low compression at 125k. Also Toyota allowing oil to be vaporized into environment. Will never buy Toyota again. They don’t stand behind their products.
@@seatime674 less mileage is negligible, things don't break these days with all-wheel drive as they used to, most of the country suffers with poor weather conditions and heavy snow, Vehicles like this especially family Transporters need to have all-wheel drive, they would sell three times as many of this vehicle was such.
@@westwasbest I can agree to that but I read somewhere that the way the Carnival is designed with the Michelins and how sure-footed it is by design that it made up for part of not having AWD.. Most front wheel drives walk right through snow because it's pulling and not pushing anyway
@@vojislavspasic8619 yea that's cool n all but realistically, overtime that has not been and likely we never be the case lol. Reliably alone. and the kia boys live in effect lmao
Literally in the top 5 vehicles with the worst resale values. Kia is not Toyota and Koreans have never been known for making good engines or good Electronics or even ones that last for very long. If you're interested in buying one just count how many Toyota Sienna vans that are at least 10 years old or older and then count how many Kia Sedona vans UC of ANY year old to new.
Don't get confused. This is not a minivan. This is an improved version of SUV. If you are a minivan driver, then stay away. You will make a very expensive mistake. This is an SUV! Very little room is left in the trunk when all the seats are used. The roof towards the end of the vehicle is very low, and its very uncomfortable for an adult to sit in the back. But absolutely, the worst thing they did to make this car very uncomfortable is that there is no way for my wife to get from the front passenger seat to the back of the car while we are in motion because she has to climb over a huge center console. Even my older Odyssey has a center console that folds away and anyone from the front seat can just WALK to the back of the car. With this SUV you will have to stop get out of the car and get back in through the rear doors. I am not promoting Odyssey, they stopped making good minivans back in 2010. Now a new Odyssey is a weird mix of a minivan and a car.
Have had my Kia Carnival for 7 months and it was the best decision ever! It has all the bells and whistles, my kids are comfortable on long rides and the tvs are amazing! I love all the features.
Are you still liking it okay and does it shift okay? I heard these engines make a little bit of noise
The traditional center console with the traditional gear shift made me buy the Sedona. Bought it in 2016, still have it. Only issue I’ve had is the front struts, stabilizer bars and rear shocks going out this past year. None of those were covered by the extended warranty. The other issue seems to be common, one sliding door the sensor went and not even a month after getting that fixed the other door stopped closing all the way electronically. Both were covered by the extended warranty. Other than that it’s been great. I love driving it. My wife has a 2019 Sienna XLT AWD. it’s really nice but I hate driving it because it has that slim armrest instead of the center console. I just feel like I’m driving a nice SUV with the Sedona. The Sienna definitely has more room, especially with the second row sliding back much farther.
Anyway. I’ll drive the Sienna at least through the warranty. I’ve only put 64,700 miles on it so far. Still have three years 3 years/35,000 miles to go. After that we’ll see. We have a lot of grandkids, so, it definitely comes in handy.
Absolutely fantastic review as always Drew! Kia, Hyundai, and Genesis are constantly improving day by day!
I love the 2023 Kia Kia carnival, I love the orange seat
Lol you love everything
Remember....EVERYTHING comes with a price. What it will come down to is "What's important to you?". Sienna...great MPG...great. What's the price that it'll pay? The battery takes up space..which is why cargo room is much less in a Sienna than a Carnival. You're talking about 141 overall Cubic feet vs 101 cubic feet. Tell me if that's important to you. Hybrid battery is paired with an underpowered 4 Cyl and CVT, which makes the Toyota scream for more power. This isn't a problem with a proper V6, which the Carnival has. So again...everything comes with a price. To me, 35mpg is great. But I'm driving a big minivan...not a 2 door coupe. I expect power. I expect room. I expect comfort. I don't mind that it gets 22mpg. When I travel on 3 long distance trip, I got between 28-29mpg on the highway. I will take that with a proper v6 ALL day long. As for AWD? I live in MN. So AWD would be nice on snowy days. But let's facts? How many days a year are we actually driving on thick snow? Minivans have thrived for years...decades w/o AWD. I think it's another overrated item. I put snow tires on my Carnival and I will put it up against ANY AWD vans.....ALL DAY...because I know in the end, I will be able to stop faster than them. And that's how you avoid accidents. AWD doesn't help you to stop, which is the main cause of accidents in the winter time.
Excellent points, great to see someone makeg sense in the comments!
I’ve read multiple times that good dedicated winter tires are all u need to handle snow & ice & that AWD is overrated. Would like to hear what ppl in snowy/icey places say about this.( studs or chains are prolly best vs. sheet ice, but Blizzaks and similar seem to do well vs. ice).
@@gregsolovieff6711 i live in canada and big difference between awd and non awd. I think this guy stays in US somewhere they get snow once in a while and doesnt really know real snow and icy roads.
But other points. Make sense. U got it ☺️
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You had a very indepth thoughts so I figure ill give kia carnival a look since you seem to love
Best in class, Kia is rocking with all their models. Toyota is not the same it use to be. New Sienna got recall as well.
That’s because Toyota s are built here now, I’d rather have the Toyota built in Japan
I had the 2021 sienna. No power. Didn't feel safe. You could run heat in the winter and have any driving power. It was a mistake to have a hybrid only especially with such a small engine
Toyota definitely the same ol reliable brand Kia was not as reliable so they are coming with designs to bring you in and you forget about how not reliable Kia actually was. It’s like fixing up a house in the hood gotta make the inside spectacular to bring ppl in to forget about what’s outside.
Our family was going to get this exact Kia Carnival but decided on the Toyota Sienna, primarily because it is a Hybrid. We felt buying a fully gas vehicle to have for the next 8-10 years was not the way to go. Especially where cars are headed.
If the Kia Carnival would have offered a hybrid or electric option, we would have definitely bought it.
Ice vehicles will still be around 30 years from now. EVs will still be a niche market as long as the governments get kickbacks from the oil companies and the infrastructure is nowhere near what the governments are saying. If California and Norway and other countries tell the population to not charge up their EVs overnight because it will crash the power grid, they are not the answer.
Hybrids or hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are. And gas and diesel.
You paid an extra 7-9k for the hybrid to save less than that over the next 7-10 years.
@@merica7050 No, we actually paid $5k less than the Carnival.
The savings that will give them is entirely dependent on their own driving patterns as well as the gas industry price fluctuations. An added benefit to the hybrid is it also gets more range on a tank which is important to some people.
@@tannerarmstrong1496 my sister in law and her husband were considering the f150 hybrid as they tow a camper and he works 10 minutes from home. The ford salesman said since their towing is once a month and as he works so close to home, any gas savings would not be coming their way for at least 10 years. So they stuck with the gas only f150.
Also, there is a video on TH-cam of someone doing a highway fuel economy test of the sienna hybrid and he was only able to get around 450-500 miles on a tank, where as he did one of the Honda odyssey and he was able to get 650 miles. Flat, level highway. No hills or mountains along the drive.
My old boss was looking at getting a hybrid, but every salesman he talked to was telling him he wouldn’t get one for at least two years, that was Honda and Toyota. He doesn’t trust the American manufacturers or the South Koreans to build a proper car. So he stuck with a gas only suv.
Gas will still be the major market player for a while regardless what people think and say.
Such a big strong auto with only a 3500 tow capacity is a hinder. It should be at least 5000 towing.
Video was really well done, thanks for this. I especially liked the reference to certain packages having particular options AND which was offered in the previous year. For someone who doesn't know much about the 2022 model or really the different trim levels it helped immensely. Well done throughout, keep up the great work
Thank you! We're glad you found the review useful and enjoyed 😁
The EX is cheaper than the LX? You mixed up the LX and EX price in the video.
Great video!
Nice review. I have a 2015 Sedona and still drives nice.
Great review - what an explanation keeping various trim levels in mind.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Holy piano black, Batman!
Very helpful. Appreciate the content - comprehensive and accurate. For eg, this is the first video I've seen where the info on SX prestige having 3 row second seating has been highlghted. Thank you Drew.
Glad it was helpful!
The front design of the kia looks so appealing compared to the sienna
Bought a 2022 I love it
Still love it??
@@seatime674 yep, not one issue
I own 2021 Elantra, the only thing i hate is tires friction noise, it's not as bad as previous models. I don't know what the situation is in luxury korean cars
Wow!! This is all I have been waiting for this one and thanks bro for reviewing and POV test driving in my favorite Kia minivan.
go away ahahaa
Kia has the more versatile interior in eight place models and better tech but that Toyota powertrain is a major advantage. Not that much slower, smooth enough expect under full throttle, and almost double the city MPG which is a huge advantage. I wish the advantages of both could be combined into one vehicle. Then it would be perfect.
Not very difficult to beat the Sienna tbh, other than the hybrid. Rumor has it that a Carnival Hybrid is on the way or 2023 though.
This is true.
Can’t forget the dealer marks ups for at least 10k more
Yes. Dealers beat Kia. Not sienna
@@danielye4066 Sienna is getting marked up maybe $4k
@@remyd8767 in my area is not honda Odyssey is not too
13k markups around my area.
@@danielye4066 what area is that
I have a Kia Sorento 2014, i'll thinking yo switch for new 2023 model, but at this point i like Carnaval
Get the Carnival. You will love lit...
Best review I have read thus far. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't understand why Kia's turn signals already built down in the rear bumper, I feel like that al safety issue, no one really looks at the bumper to see a signal light blinking
I just said the same thing to my wife the other day as we ordered one of these in May. You have a beautiful LED display below the window! integrate the blinker there! If someone were to make contact to the rear end of the vehicle, now I am out turn signals most likely! Dumb.
Sienna is popular because of 36mpg. That’s it!
I would really like to see how the middle row seats can be removed in a prestige
Hi Car Confections Can You Make The 2022 Toyota Sienna XLE Woodland Edition
Take a XLE, put different wheels, a grey color and a "Woodland" badge and wow, that's it. Nothing special.
@@ShafinRehman Thank You
JUST BOUGHT A SIENNA. BEST DECISION.
Not having a Carnival Hybrid option is very disappointing. I put off purchasing a vehicle last year in the hopes that Kia would offer a Hybrid option. I’ve owned/leased 10 new Toyotas during the past 28 years, including 2 Sienna vans. I wasn’t impressed with Toyotas latest Sienna offering, except for the Hybrid.
I’m just not sure that I can bring myself to purchase/lease the 2023 Carnival SX Prestige without a Hybrid. Shame on Kia for dropping the ball this year.
year 2024 will be hybrid I read.
Yeah, I would have preferred a hybrid or EV version. But needed a spacious van for car seats and me being tall. It gets a low 22-24 mpg unfortunately. But it does the job I need it to do.
I think they'll upgrade in 2024 or 2025 when the Telluride's get Hybrid option as well. So far, they're all supply constraint so no point in further complicating the production.
The difference on 12,000 annual miles at $4/gallon is $772 a year or $64 a month 34 vs 22 avg MPG. What is the difference of lifecycle cocts between the Sienna and Carnival?
Yup. The plug-in hybrid is why we bought the Pacifica. 33 miles of EV range is great. We love it. We go months without buying gas.
Question for those who own a Carnival. Which package is preferred excluding the SX Prestige? I knpw I wont like the fancy center seats because we need to access the back seats. I would love entertainment package in a standard setup. How do you like the middle row having 3 seats vs having the passthrough? For the package you have, is there anything it lacks you wish you had upgraded, or is there any upgrades you thought you'd want, but now don't utilize? I want to buy one, but i would hope to get one sooner than wait for one.
I bought the 2022 lx with seat package and love it the only thing i wish i have is the power tail gate because im not a tall woman amd sometimes it hard to reach the handle...but other than that i love it...
Dunno for sure, but suspect middle middle row seat is also removable so can keep pass through when don’t need to carry 8 ppl.
Way better than Sienna and Oddysey
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I’m so bummed. I ordered the Kia carnival in August 2021. It finally arrived this month but the dealership told me the only change was it’s now a 2023 but I lost out on all the features I expected on the 2022 SX like the entertainment system and VIP lounge seats. I signed the papers but haven’t picked it up. Can I do anything?
shouldn't of signed the papers but call manufacture and tell them what the dealer is doing, worse caes walk and get something else.
Not once you sign papers lol you bought it sister
Is KIA carnival still have problem of chip shortage? I want to order one. But, it seems local dealers are not interested in taking order very much.
I hope they fix the ECO Mode and the transmission issues. I have owned one since August 2021. It is my dream car. Therefore, transmission sucks and it shakes when riding it on ECO Mode. Only have 12,389 miles. If you own one, avoid the ECO Mode. Kia Carnival Forum for all the Kia Carnival owners has more information if you start having issues. I wish you all good luck with it.
I'm thinking about getting one of these pretty soon so when you say ECO mode is that optional or do they all have it and you can turn it on or off at any time.??
@@seatime674 they all have it. You can turn it off. If you are getting it, make sure the you drive it off the ECO mode to the avoid shuddering and make sure the motor/transmission was made in Korea. That will ensure the car will last longer. Some Kia transmissions are made in America and Mexico and they suck. Another tip, I use Costco (Top Tier) Premium gas and since I stop putting regular gas, van runs smoothly. Good luck!! Other than the ECO Mode, the van is amazing.
Great video
Thanks!
How do you remove the 2nd row seating on the SX or EX?
Thank very productive review
Comparable when Kia could have equiped the hybrid engine other than that ,,it falls behind Sienna Hybrid AWD!
Holy shit that looks comfortable
can you take 2ed row seats out if you wanted to ?
YES.... a bit heavy, but the seats are awesome.
Unless the vehicle is a crappy Chrysler/ fiat or a Mitsubishi you going to pay over MSRP and that's if you can find the vehicle you want on the dealers lot....
I picked up my Carnival on Friday and paid at msrp
@@peggyhaukap5554 where was that? In AUS they are asking 10k+ above MSRP
@@marta-gorka2980 in the US Wichita, KS
Peggy is the exception to the rule when it comes to mark ups. I've seen her in a couple of comments.
@@BlkOMNI yes I agree I'm the exception. Thank goodness our local Kia dealership decided it was bad practice to gouge its customers
Just can’t purchase a car without AWD. Especially not after this year when even California and Arizona had snow. I believe KIA has it in other countries. It can’t rival Sienna without it.
I dont get it .. Its "2023",Technology-wise all these car manufacturers,should have "WIRELESS" Apple/Android as Standard on most/all Models.. ( And why the upper trim doesn't, makes no sense )... Great Review Guys.. Always look forward to your Videos ..:)
Thanks! 😁
its does have it on my 2022 carnival im sure the 23 has it as well as nothing on the panel has changed
We have the EX 2022 and it DOES have wireless. You just have to know how to set it up/
I have a 2022 carnival sx prestige, doesn’t seem like much changed. Only issue I have is that the air conditioner does not get super cold in the summer, we took it to the shop 3 times and they say as long as it’s 20 degrees below ambient temp it’s working fine… but it’s not. All my other vehicles get super cold except this one
We have the 2022 EX,and it cools perfectly...front and rear.
Take it to a different dealer. Some are lazy. My wife and I just leased one and her comment was that the A/C will freeze us out. And she wasn’t lying it’s been the best in our San Antonio, Texas summer!
I'm so confused 🤔 are the side panels still glossy or did they change it? Another person who reviewed this car didn't have it glossy...which is way better. I figured they must have changed it due to the amounts of fingerprints if they kept it with the glossy touch. But it seems like they didn't....
The one thing I look for is total cargo space in terms of width and length, seats folded flat. Didn't see this. Cubic feet means little when understanding what will and won't fit.
Not that hard to see what fits
@@2004cyrus Measurements matter.
Is that sliding door mechanism as crappy as the one on the Honda Odyssey?
Needs to be a hybrid
It will have a hybrid powertrain I think for the 24 model year.
With everything going EV might as well go right to full electric....
@@stevenkreiss2113 it probably will. They just don't have a EV platform for something this long for Hyundai/Kia yet. Probably after the Ionic 7 or 9 launches.
@@stevenkreiss2113 hybrid and EV are strongly rumoured for 2024 across their range, including an EV ute.
So strange that the higher spec large screen requires wires for Apple Car Play
These are so out everywhere with $5k markups. Lol
Put a 1k deposit on an LSX with a 5k markup. Three weeks later found an ex in same color we wanted with only a $1800 markup and is a 2.5 hour drive away. We will be walking away from the local dealership with the 5k markup.
Ask for your deposit back and don’t buy it. Never put deposits down. I work in car business. That’s my advice. You can walk away and legally get a refund. Tell them you have an attorney on retainer who will be sending them correspondence.
@@2004cyrus really? They said if we walk away we will lose the deposit. And This other dealership isn’t requiring a deposit to reserve the car. I’ll look into it. Thanks!
It beats Toyota in every way but in lifespan area
I want it
but u don't speak about whomay does it and whomany cc in power machine
How do you have that much room but still screw up the drivers cup holders. That is the worst setup I have seen yet.
Does it have a spare tire?
love it
I love it, but how can I resist Sienna’s MPG?
Do you need 8 seats or maximum cargo?
@@alexmassengale433 I prefer maximum cargo.
Does anybody know how to get the sound on? My TVs are not making any sound
I’m not seeing many of these on the road. What’s going on?
This is definitely feature rich but the Sienna has the hybrid drivetrain and the gas mileage that delivers is unmatched by the competition.
Absolutely!!! I love my Sienna hybrid!
Impressive vehicle. The only thing I'd change is the Carnavale badge on the back. I'd take it off - - bad association with the cruise line. Mason, don't lose those glasses. They're a good look.
funny that u were shown me key remote
No AWD and no hybrid option. Sienna easily wins.
Gross
@@2004cyrus good luck making it up a steep grade in one loaded with 7 people and luggage!
@@matthewm3912 well I’m single and travel alone lol so I’m not worried but yes I agree with you if I had a family and all of their crap to haul I would get a Honda Odyssey
I can’t believe it’s not wireless apple
Car play with the higher trims!! 🤬🤬
It is wireless...
@@vojislavspasic8619 it isn't. Wireless is only on lower trims with the smaller screen.
@@drw1926 the ex we are looking at is wireless. The Lxs we reserved a few weeks ago has no wireless charging
Is it still 10 years or 100K miles warranty?
Yes for the powertrain
US gas prices are at a record, V6 is too costly.
Money is not a problem for some of us
@@2004cyrus I hear ya, I just bought Christian Louboutins for everybody on my block....👍
14:22 is that right? The LX gets wireless and the more expensive trims get wired AA &CP? Or did you mean the opposite?
Nope, that is indeed the way it's configured. You get the small and grainy screen but the better wireless abilities. All Kia and Hyundai's are like that
@@CarConfections thanks for the confirmation. Bummer. Great video as always
Does it come with diesel engine? Or just gas?
Just gas V6
How do you guys find the vehicles in stock? There none, zilch, nada in my home city
It's hard but we monitor the inventory daily
Go to the dealership. They will say they’ll have X Amt getting delivered and you will need to reserve it. We realized this is what they were doing a month ago when we were ready to buy
@@mimil8677 so they give you some choices they will be getting and you select one, wait for delivery then test it when it arrives?
@@AlGggeee the dealership we went to had a 2022 pre owned one for sale, so we were able to test drive that. We went to another dealership (2.5 hours away) since the markup was only $1800 and they want you to use their financing in order to reserve the car. The one we went to locally wanted us to leave a non refundable $1000 deposit with a 5k markup. It’s really annoying how they are doing business right now with the carnivals
@@mimil8677 oh wow. So it's really worth it to check online for prices even if it's a few hours distance then. How did you figure out the other dealer had a better markup and easier reservation? Called them or online?
Where is the spare tire?
The lounger 2nd row seats are just dumb..no way im paying extra to see my kid use those. 90 percent of those seats are kid occupied
The Carnival EX+ has better features than Sienna Limited. The extra gas milage will never make up for that difference.
And because the Sienna gets such shitty features, it is just another budget minivan, except it isn't actually cheaper. The Carnival has much better cost effectiveness.
What did you do with Mason?!
He said vacation
I wish this was a hybrid. It would be great then.
What's wrong with Kia? Is that so difficult to make hybrid to their Carnival and Telluride?
Hybrids leave a huge carbon footprint for one battery.
They removed the sunroof 😪
It beats Toyota in luxury only.
Hello everyone. Just a warning. My 2009 Corolla dead at 125k miles. Was documented burning oil by 35k. Toyota said no issues with car burning.5 quart every 1,000 miles. Had manufacturers warranty and dealership “platinum “. Extended warranty. Dealership refused to do compression test. Also said they would not take another ships compression test. Car dead with low compression at 125k. Also Toyota allowing oil to be vaporized into environment. Will never buy Toyota again. They don’t stand behind their products.
Yes there cars now a days are cr*p. If you want a reliable one, go with 1990s and 2000s
WTF does that have to do with this video? Cry me a river Francis.
Australia models don't have LCD gauges,too far behind
One will last 80-150k miles
One will last 500-800k miles
Guess 😉
without wheels? 😉
KIA bruh
There are tons of Kia on the rode these days with 200k + miles. Who really is gonna keep a car 500-800k tho lol
One is from 90s
One is from 2022.
Guess 😉
I don't think the battery pack will last more than 300K miles.
Honda ad before video lol
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🎉
They need a plug-in hybrid. 15 mpg doesn’t cut it anymore.
Next year hybrid....
Diffenatly beat Toyota senna
No all-wheel drive makes it no deal
It shouldn't be a No Deal they get slightly worse gas mileage and a lot more Hardware to break
@@seatime674 less mileage is negligible, things don't break these days with all-wheel drive as they used to, most of the country suffers with poor weather conditions and heavy snow, Vehicles like this especially family Transporters need to have all-wheel drive, they would sell three times as many of this vehicle was such.
@@westwasbest I can agree to that but I read somewhere that the way the Carnival is designed with the Michelins and how sure-footed it is by design that it made up for part of not having AWD.. Most front wheel drives walk right through snow because it's pulling and not pushing anyway
Easy answer.
No it doesn’t beat the Sienna.
It doesn’t even beat a 2010 Limited model.
I wouldn't buy that car, the display has a bad pixel in the middle of the display.
No Kia does not beat Toyota
We tested both, and bought Kia EX...best van, hands down.
@@vojislavspasic8619 yea that's cool n all but realistically, overtime that has not been and likely we never be the case lol. Reliably alone. and the kia boys live in effect lmao
@@vojislavspasic8619 Everyone likes a brand new kia. Nobody wants an old kia
It's not 2023 yet 😳
What a fact
Literally in the top 5 vehicles with the worst resale values. Kia is not Toyota and Koreans have never been known for making good engines or good Electronics or even ones that last for very long. If you're interested in buying one just count how many Toyota Sienna vans that are at least 10 years old or older and then count how many Kia Sedona vans UC of ANY year old to new.
waht tis fairst face looks like baby car
not even close
??? 0:32 mini van. i would definitely call this shit a large SUV instead
Don't get confused. This is not a minivan. This is an improved version of SUV. If you are a minivan driver, then stay away. You will make a very expensive mistake. This is an SUV! Very little room is left in the trunk when all the seats are used. The roof towards the end of the vehicle is very low, and its very uncomfortable for an adult to sit in the back. But absolutely, the worst thing they did to make this car very uncomfortable is that there is no way for my wife to get from the front passenger seat to the back of the car while we are in motion because she has to climb over a huge center console. Even my older Odyssey has a center console that folds away and anyone from the front seat can just WALK to the back of the car. With this SUV you will have to stop get out of the car and get back in through the rear doors. I am not promoting Odyssey, they stopped making good minivans back in 2010. Now a new Odyssey is a weird mix of a minivan and a car.
there is totally no car at all.
You can’t beat Toyota gas mileage 😅