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  • Charlie takes Robert McKee out for a drink after attending his screenwriting seminar.
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    Adaptation. (Spike Jonze/2002) SYNOPSIS: A lovelorn screenwriter becomes desperate as he tries and fails to adapt 'The Orchid Thief' by Susan Orlean for the screen.
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  • @thebookwasbetter3650
    @thebookwasbetter3650 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    "I'm the guy you yelled at this morning."
    "I need more."
    The older I get the more this line makes a lot of sense.

    • @journeyman153
      @journeyman153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fantastic comment

  • @teravega
    @teravega ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I know some say Charlie broke all the rules but that's not true. He did bring in a Deus Ex Machina but it was after receiving a life changing advice. He still followed McKee's advice by adding the drama, made his characters (including himself) go through changes and it didn't feel cheap. I think his advice to heart "Your characters must change and the change must come from them"

    • @VerbDoesStuff
      @VerbDoesStuff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But I would argue the change _didn’t_ come from within. At least, not entirely. This scene is literally him getting advice from someone else

  • @KevinMuller5
    @KevinMuller5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Cox should've been nominated for Best Supporting Actor that year, along with costar Chris Cooper. I always am happy when I see him in a movie. He always gives a great performance

    • @____uncompetative
      @____uncompetative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think he was a better Hannibal Lector than Sir Anthony Hopkins.

    • @joshk2181
      @joshk2181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chris cooper was out of control in this movie

    • @thebicycleman8062
      @thebicycleman8062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      His role I believe was too short

    • @KevinMuller5
      @KevinMuller5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebicycleman8062 Judi Dench won her Oscar for almost, or less screen time back in 98. Has cox ever been nominated?

    • @starwarsroo2448
      @starwarsroo2448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nic Cage should of won best actor, and best supporting actor

  • @TheNightEyes
    @TheNightEyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I wish Charlie had talked to McKee about "The 3" thinking someone else finally would hate it as well and Mckee goes "That's one of the best ideas I've ever heard in my life"

    • @JustSwell
      @JustSwell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The real McKee worked with Kaufman on the 3rd act of this very movie. Meta on top of meta.

  • @sniffableandirresistble
    @sniffableandirresistble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The key is how he breaks all of Mckees rules including his don't you dare use a deux ex machina advice ... lol 🤣 genius
    Deus ex machina is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem in a story is suddenly and abruptly resolved by an unexpected and unlikely occurrence. Wikipedia
    That's exactly how Adaptation ends 😉

    • @SpindicateAudio
      @SpindicateAudio ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it's just so brilliant i can barely stand it even all these years later. kaufman essentially admits defeat. he twisted himself in knots trying to be anything other than a hollywood screenwriter and just can't avoid it in the end.

    • @sniffableandirresistble
      @sniffableandirresistble ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SpindicateAudio it really is brilliant

  • @SerbAtheist
    @SerbAtheist ปีที่แล้ว +61

    From the moment Charlie asks his twin 'how would you handle it' the movie diverges into pure Hollywood.
    Every single Hollywood cliché is on full display. The riveting detective work where they can find and reach the author in no time, the discovery of drug use, the shootout, the hokey monologue about being more assertive the twin says during the shootout, the death of his twin, the final corny monologue of optimism from someone who's ostensibly just lost their twin brother... It all goes to show how forgiving the audience is towards even the most hackneyed schlock as long as the story hits all the familiar beats and validates them (PS Yes, I'm fully aware this movie is doing it ironically, that's what makes it great!)

    • @mariocoutinho125
      @mariocoutinho125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And Umberto Eco argued that Casablanca is also a classic because it is a mish mash o clichés.

    • @nihaalsandim9986
      @nihaalsandim9986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow , i was catching all the little glimpses of the irony writing in the story , but i didn't realise this part , since the last act of the film is greatly influenced by hus brother is way more tense , and 'hollywood'. Thanks for helping me notice it

    • @SpindicateAudio
      @SpindicateAudio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The greatest screenplay ever written

    • @troylee4196
      @troylee4196 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This, The Player and Birdman all do this very well

  • @sniffableandirresistble
    @sniffableandirresistble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Does anyone yet understand what a powerful breakthrough this film is in terms of cinema and your choices in life?

  • @lithantushelo7932
    @lithantushelo7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Used to find this a little disappointing and a bit of a cheat but looking at films & shows that fall apart in the end & people scorn them for such.... Kauffman's Mckee is right.

    • @KevinMuller5
      @KevinMuller5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, great point. People shit on "Game of Thrones" because of that ending. Was it good? Not really, but these people forget that show was incredible for all those seasons. I still highly respect that show despite a lackluster finale.

    • @dollyriva8297
      @dollyriva8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KevinMuller5 you’re right. The bulk of GoT was superb. However. If you don’t stick the landing….. you frankly …. don’t have shit.

    • @thebicycleman8062
      @thebicycleman8062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ur comment isnt exactly valid here.. as McKee CLEARLY SAYS "and DONT U DARE use deux ex machinas!" and wht u r referring to is kind of movies that use that - so McKee is actually saying the opposite of ur comment -

    • @josiahcmiller
      @josiahcmiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KevinMuller5 if you’re talking about Seasons 5-8, aka, half the show, then yes.

  • @joseg.8169
    @joseg.8169 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    is that judd hirsh in the background of the bar scene? 1:05

  • @JustSomeCanadianGuy
    @JustSomeCanadianGuy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the idea that Being John Malkovich hasn’t come out yet.
    Because he made the exact kind of script McKee would love and before he went to his seminar.

  • @vincentarceo7655
    @vincentarceo7655 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    And then this movie completely does the opposite of Mckee’s Advice near the end💀💀💀

  • @karenmichelle5767
    @karenmichelle5767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Don't you dare bring in deus ex machina

  • @williamkuhns2387
    @williamkuhns2387 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "...and don't you dare bring in a Deus Machina."

  • @karenmichelle5767
    @karenmichelle5767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Re-write the Script. Give it a HollyWood End Ing

  • @thetoweroftomes
    @thetoweroftomes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Seriously one of the best movies ever.

    • @emptiester
      @emptiester 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This movie transcends movies. It is unique in its genius and execution.

  • @karenmichelle5767
    @karenmichelle5767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Casablanca was written by twins

  • @BenGamingShorts
    @BenGamingShorts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great scene.

  • @bsrfuchs55
    @bsrfuchs55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    omg he plays robert mckee so well

  • @sniffableandirresistble
    @sniffableandirresistble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cox is God

  • @wertedfy
    @wertedfy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cox is an amazing actor. In just 5 minutes of screen time he manages to leave a huge impact!!!!!!!

  • @TheSabado215
    @TheSabado215 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this Scene.
    Beautiful

  • @RyanDesmond
    @RyanDesmond 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like that Brian Cox IS Deus Ex Machina.

    • @troylee4196
      @troylee4196 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤯

    • @RyanDesmond
      @RyanDesmond 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@troylee4196 Brian Cox is an ideal thing in this flick. Cage is voice-overing while Cox interrupts with "and don't use voice over." So, when Cox says: "And don't use Deus Ex Machina" ... what do you think that means? It means that's what's up.

  • @slothrop4751
    @slothrop4751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Logan Roy before he was a billionaire

  • @karenmichelle5767
    @karenmichelle5767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nah nah you gotta go deeper

  • @danielebellucci8800
    @danielebellucci8800 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Has Brian Cox ever been young? 😅

  • @Karen___s81
    @Karen___s81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This correspondence serves as confirmation of the successful transfer from the bank to your Visa/Mastercard card.

  • @sniffableandirresistble
    @sniffableandirresistble 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the best film ever made? It's entirely in the conversation (even if you don't have ebola) (or hanta or marburg virus) ❤

  • @ismaelrosa8091
    @ismaelrosa8091 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brian Cox british accent seems to have faded to its demise...

  • @willgold9989
    @willgold9989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Rian Johnson should have watched this.

    • @BTTFMovie
      @BTTFMovie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Rian Johnson took McKee's actual seminar as a kid.

    • @TwenteeEight
      @TwenteeEight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Let it go. He’s great. He made a Star Wars movie you didn’t like. So what.

    • @Arkain89
      @Arkain89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      star wars nerds are insufferable, go drool over your marvel action figures or musk's latest repackaging of an inefficient bus

    • @thewishfulfilmmakerhsu
      @thewishfulfilmmakerhsu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tell me you missed the point of this scene without telling me you missed the point of this scene

    • @giulioscanferlato9693
      @giulioscanferlato9693 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you realize that McKee IS a Deus ExMachina in the movie right?

  • @สมชายจึงสิริพิพัฒน์พร-ฤ9ฤ

    คุณต้องทรงอานาปานสติปัฏฐานแล้วมีวิจารณญาณพิจารณาในการรับชม(ชอบชังทางตาหูจมูกลิ้นกายใจ)ทุกบันทึกสื่อสารสาระสังคมดีชั่วมั่วขนาดไหนก็ดูเป็นเห็นประโยชน์มากสามารถนำมาใช้ปรับเปลี่ยนปรุงศักยภาพด้านต่างๆได้สูงส่งสุดยอดยิ่งนักแล สาธุๆๆ