The Outer Worlds Critique: A Shallow Experience
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- This video serves as a critique of Obsidian Entertainment's The Outer Worlds. The video covers a large array of elements such as combat, companions, world building, story, and characters.
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Nice to see I’m not the only one who felt underwhelmed with the game
Yeah the opinions on it will always be all over the place since so many people got it for 1$ via gamepass. By that standard it's more than worth it and extremely great content for your money. That and it is a decent immitation of something we've all been missing.
I feel like a major failure when it comes to story is how the board is just so bland of an antagonistic force. they're so incompetent that siding with never seems worth it and since the entire game is shoving in your face how shitty the capitalism is that it just seems out of place to ever go against the direction the story starts you off as. imagine playing fallout NV but the legion doesn't seem threatening at all and you are only ever encouraged to help the NCR.
No Mr. House, no wild card. there just aren't any stakes and honestly I just think that the overall tone is just way too overly silly and comedy focused that there is no real reason to care about what happens since the story is more about obsidian going on and on about how capitalism sucks rather then having an interesting and engaging story
I basically agree with everything you're saying here. The message of the game is clearly big money corporations are bad for society as a whole. There's very little reason to actually choose to side with the board. Phineas is clearly the good guy and the board is evil. The tone of the game isn't something I go over, but I think you hit the nail on its head. The game is desperately trying to be funny and witty. It does achieve this, but at the cost of the board being portrayed as incompetent fools. Thanks for the comment. I enjoyed reading it.
I always thought Obsidian had this problem at least going back to New Vegas. They did well with giving you middle options but the NCR vs Legion never felt like much of a choice as it should have. In an apocalyptic scenario, strong central leadership is a benefit, but they made the Legion so blandly evil by having them crucify and enslave people. And the counter was that the NCR was incompetent.... yeah but are they enslaving people? There was clearly a good and a bad choice instead of two shades of gray like people have previously claimed a long time ago.
I wasn't expecting any morally gray choices here either, and I was proven right. Obsidian makes decent games, but the mods are what make them great RPGs.
@@alexs1640 id disagree, at least i got the impression that the ncr DEFINETLY enslaves people, through land ownership, and their ever present demands for protection money (aka ""taxes""). their society is also failing already, being utterly corrupted, and will most likely collapse sooner or later. also dont forget about their conscription, they send thousands of settlers kids to die in far away lands to protect the governments interests.
@@LOL60345 sure, and that's representative of extreme capitalism. But which would you rather be enslaved to, wages where you earn just enough to pay for the taxes to keep your land but are stuck working just to survive or literal slavery where you earn nothing and have no freedom and can be killed for little or no reason? The Legion also force people to join them, so it feels like the same issue, so I'm not sure there's even a case for either side on this one. Only point to give the Legion is that they deal with bandits pretty well so their territory is safer. But that still doesn't absolve them of slavery and crucifixion.
Those are two things that are some of the worst thing you can do to a person. An overstretched NCR that can't police its own territory so it falls to incompetence isn't the equal of actual slavery and torture.
@@alexs1640 What also adds to this is that you have far more interaction with the NCR than the Legion and the characters in the NCR are more relatable and sympathetic while the legion's NPCs are either single-mindedly zealous or cartoonishly evil or both.
"An overstretched NCR that can't police its own territory so it falls to incompetence isn't the equal of actual slavery and torture."
And in your conversation with Legate at the final battle, your character can persuade them to give up the fight by reasoning with them that if they succeed in conquering all the west then they will inherit the same problem of maintaining control over the region.
Doesn’t anyone think it’s weird that Parvati tells us that her past relationships told her that she acts “cold” when she is, by far, the most jovial and emotional character in the ENTIRE GAME???
They mean sexually. It's not uncommon for asexual people (like Parvati) to be told by shitty partners that they're "frigid" if they don't put out for sex.
@@GioTheVax how does being “asexual” really work? If you are a gender, regardless of preference, you can still be interested in the idea. She might just be more timid and shy to trust anyone that doesn’t let her keep pace
@@jaypeterman9721 That's the thing about being asexual. You're not interested in the idea.
@Zoomer Waffen no
@Zoomer Waffen yes
It honestly felt like a Borderlands game with dialogue options.
Yeah. Like it's just really want in on that Borderlands satire than an actual story.
That was my exact opinion as well - it's aesthetics without any filler to sustain them - the writing isn't good enough to sustain its narrative choices & design, the world design is nonsensical and Fallout lite without exploring WHY things look the way they do, and it keeps beating you over the head with CORPORATIONS BAD but doesn't present a corporaton dystopia that would actually make you ponder its message. Comedic corporate incompetence =/= make the point that corporations bad bc some of the things are so idiotic as to be immersion breaking. I'm so mad it had SO MUCH potential but they stuck to shallow waters to get that sweet sweet Fallout money instead of doing something unique and deep.
Outer Worlds is a very safe game. The setting is strong but ultimately hollow because there's nothing really there to accompany it. There is no history or any form of world-building. Instead, this is replaced mostly by humor that at times is reminiscent of New Vegas. There definitely are times where the game is funny, but as you stated, often it makes the antagonists of the plot look like buffoons or discredits every faction the game creates. This is a bit of a problem for obvious reasons. The integrity of many of the more malicious factions is thrown out the window to provide a cheap laugh more often than not. This isn't believable yet alone realistic because people do not become super-rich or influential through luck alone. It requires ruthlessness and intelligence in order to amass extreme amounts of wealth and maintain it. I don't think anyone would argue the board isn't ruthless, however, whether they are intelligent is a whole other issue. Ultimately, this helped create a game that road the hype of being made by some of the original Fallout developers and being produced by Obsidian. However, it never came close to meeting those expectations and ended up being a pretty hollow product. Honestly, it does frighten me a little on how well the game was received. Makes you wonder just how susceptible we are to brands and nostalgia. Thank you for the comment!
I just realized this but fallout 4's Far Harbor dlc is a much better story with better options and factions then the whole of outer worlds
Outer worlds is still weak but comparing it to an eight game in a series is kinda cheating. The fact that the game is summarily worse than fallout 1 is a lot less forgivable though
I tried doing a genocide run of the game once upon a time, but I stopped because I was tired of not being able to kill quest-related NPCs that were locked behind doors that couldn’t be opened without a quest item... and they ARE NOT loot-able off the original quest-giver’s corpse as the game doesn’t spawn the item in their inventory until the quest is accepted.
So I currently have a save file where a genocidal baseball bat-wielding clown is forever staring down a woman sitting in a containment cell behind indestructible glass, an unresponsive intercom, and a locked door that I can neither hack, lockpick, blow up, nor beat down.
Fuck this shit.
Very "NeverKnowsBest" of you. Hopefully this wont be lost in the comparison.
Dude finally. I felt crazy, seeing people give this game nothing but praise, yet the entire game is filled with missed potential and incomplete ideas. This game feels average in many areas, and I feel like the fallout games do a lot of things better than this game.
I feel like this comment belongs on another video lol. By now pretty much everyone agrees that Outer Worlds is an average videogame.
Another game, released in december last year though, yeah that one seems like it'll take people a while to accept its mediocrity.
its because little things doesnt matter from small studio, its all aboud idea and climate. Valhalla may be super good in everyway but its not perfect in art style like dishonored prey or outer wrodls etc
Agreed. The world desig was so boring too. It looked like it was half complete in some sections.
Just found you. Lovely to see a fellow small critiquer! I'll be working through your backlog my dude ❤️
I enjoyed outer worlds but it's certainly not perfect. Shallow is the perfect fit.
I thought Outer Worlds was okay. I didn't think it was not worth playing, though. It's nice to meet another small critiquer as well! I'm glad you enjoyed the video enough to watch my other videos. It may sound odd of me to say, but my first couple of projects weren't the best. Sometimes I look back at the Sekiro videos and think, what was I doing? When I find the time, I'll make sure to watch some of your projects as well!
@@Engel_Regime hahaha I feel the same way about my Bloodborne video, trust me!
The entire games plot feels like it was meant to be a strict good vs evil story of the player going around saving people that was later retrofitted because the writers felt like the moral ambiguity of new vegas was an absolutely necessary thing for no reason
You've brought up really good points and made me think about things I havent before.
Can't fregging believe the video has less than 50k views. Subbed, liked, and shared.
Awesome video man. Don't stop making awesome analysis videos. You'll grow your audience with your quality and commitment!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the compliments. They mean a lot to me. I've been working on a video for a while now but my job has been really keeping me busy lately. It should have been out a month ago but between lack of time and energy, things have been rough. Comments like this really help.
When it comes to worldbuilding, I was actually - and to my huge surprise - more immersed in Rage 2 that this one. Have yet to finish it.
Dude you deserve more views and subs. This is a fantastic review, and you can tell there has been a lot of time and passion.
Keep going this way man!
Thank you so much! I greatly appreciate it.
its not a bad game, it's just aggressively okay. kind of a one-and-done that years down a mention of it will bring a resounding "oh yeah, that was a game, right"
I think this is the best description I've heard yet
Great work - quite enjoyed listening to this while working in my Workshop :)
New sub earned, great job, my guy. Long form critique might be niche but it’ll get you a devoted fan base.
The Board controls things because The Outer Worlds takes place in an alternate history to our own. That was mentioned in behind the scenes things and in the dev commentary around the game. I'm not sure if its mentioned in-game or not which would be its own failing but that's the justification for it.
Iirc the idea is Teddy Roosevelt never became president and never broke up the robber baron monopoly trusts of the time. So grandparents wouldn't remember the good times back on Earth because there never were any to remember.
Great work. I love these long game critique videos. For me the games's setting/universe is just not interesting. It can't compete with Fallout's world and lore. It's a nice game but definitely not the destroyer of Fallout that most critiques made it out to be.
Yeah, Outer Worlds isn't a bad game, but I wouldn't say it's anything special either. It certainly isn't the fallout destroyer people had thought it would be. I've seen some video titles that say "Bethesda take notes" or "this is how a fallout game should be". I never understood why people thought that way. Thanks for the comment!
@@Engel_Regime Umm, yeah it was. It destroyed fallout by not crashing every 5 minutes, and by having actual NPCS. Fallout 76 cost so many times more and yet delivered so much less.
@@D64nz Yet, people are still playing fallout while this game gathers dust on a shelf🤔🤔🤔
My general thoughts exactly. Good potential and usually funny, decent characters, and quite pretty (I don't much like the cartoonish aesthetic personally but that doesn't mean it wasn't pretty) but mediocre combat and... ngl a story beat out by FO4. Like at least the Institute has some things going for it???
The combat is very easily broken. I've heard tell of people getting up to 3,000+ dmg with a plasma rifle and I myself got roughly 2,000 with a Dead Eye. Crunchy.
I think also our cinnamon roll Parvati is a favourite partially because Aces don't see much representation, and that is what she be. She's likeable and ace in a way that's understandable to everyone. Connected to this, I really remember the dialogue options that allowed you to say that your character was ace too, aro even. That's not something I've ever seen in a game really - or not one on this scale anyway.
The Outer Worlds is not a bad game. It's just not a memorable one :(
Sadly I think the hype from NV got to it. One could even say that the game was rigged from the start.
I can't describe why I felt so bored midway through the game, now I know.
I know you might not get many views right now but one of your vids will eventually blow up. Keep up the great work and I await your next upload
Solid critique
Wasted potential: The game
Great stuff brother
Loved this video, lot of valid points raised and it'll be cool to see what you do with the channel, just a suggestion but some music in the background might compliment the length of the video if that's your thing, or just sound in general. It could help keep people's attention or bring them back to the video if they've been listening to it thus far because you do use some good clips from the game. Maybe play a couple clips supporting a point you make or something to break up the trail as you go through your points? Again, I was happy to sit through and listen to this regardless, You'll evolve in your own way :)
I'm always happy to hear that someone enjoyed the videos! You're definitely right about the music part. I do kind of droll on and on. Music would have helped keep people's attention. In all of my videos after this one, I've been adding music because I found the same problem you mentioned. I also do break it up with some clips from the games. Even if I've already started to implement your suggestions, I still appreciate any helpful insights. I'm always striving to make the videos better, and I find viewer feedback is the best way to achieve that. Thank you!
@@Engel_Regime Ha! Well that's on me for not digging in further but I'll get my chance now that I'm subbed. Thanks for making this, looking forward to seeing what else you put up
Reporting in before this channel blows up
You earned a new subscriber, good stuff.
Gotta say I really enjoyed the game the first time through and didn't pick up on many of these weaknesses then. But what did strike me was just how similar the game was on the second playthrough, despite my attempts to make a vastly different character who sided with completely different factions. That's when the issues you bring up turned from minor flaws into glaring ones.
After a point I had no use for money, so I tinkered. After a bit I pretty much had two weapons, a plasma AR, and a shock AR, tinkered to a level similar to my armor. Thus I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
The only somewhat threatening enemy after about level 10 was the warden on Tartarus. Actually had to use a healing inhaler once or twice.
this was supposed to be a proof of concept, that rpg can be mader cheaper but still be satisfying, it was funded by the indie branch of 2k and was never meant as a AAA title so the cut corners and simple story really shows, but for a year (2018-2019) starved of good rpg this blew up into something bigger, it is sad that there will be no follow-up to develop the ip since it is owned by 2k and the developer is owned by Microsoft.
Thank you I was about to make this point. This can't be compared to modern Fallout directly because the budgets and development time were way different. Outer Worlds 2 would be the great leap forward, if we ever get it.
I think it speaks volumes that no one talks about this game 2 years later and I've legitimately 100% forgot it existed. Yet new vegas continues to be talked about. This game was such a dissapointment.
Because it just worked, so you don't have that anguish burnt into your mind of constantly waiting for it to reload. It did its job, it did it well, it didn't crash ever, and then it peaced out.
The first 10 hours I spent playing this game were amazing. I thought it was gonna be my new binge game. I cleared *everything* in Edgewater, spent lots of time tinkering and modifying my weapons and armor, and was getting invested in Max's storyline. I was so expectant of the game to keep delivering those moments of wonder. And then it just...stopped. The characters I met meant less to me, their personality and goals were so shallow and surface level. There was no new weapons, armor, or mods I was getting. No new ammo or guns. Just more of the same. I kept expecting the game to expand into this web of different factions and groups vying for control while the board attempted to keep everything the same. But it just kept letting me down. I learned the extensiveness of the "Board" was confined to one chick who you have 3 convos with. The choices I made during missions didn't matter and had no consequences. Everything just starts to feel so hollow. And then, a whopping 8 quests into the main story, and the game is OVER. After eight fucking quests. This game was a monumental letdown. The Shallow Worlds, indeed.
I felt exactly the same, I kept expecting the game to expand on story, characters, locations, fuck enemies especially but nope.... The game just ends, the character quests are beyond shallow. Fetch quests for a simple lesbian date does not make a deep emotional connection. Let alone the others who were pathetically bad like Felix. The world's are horrible, not only ate they small but basically only 2-3 creatures and vanilla humans....
I litterally kill everyone in the game except Welles and it still give me a good ending. (I can't kill him the game just end before i do)
Obsidian desperately needs to learn 2 things about choice:
1. Meaningful choice is about testing beliefs, not just expressing existing beliefs over and over again. The game itself needs to prompt you to think, otherwise it's no better than a blank sheet of paper and a pen.
2. Character expression needs to reflected in the player experience. Too many RPGs just have menu options to instantly achieve your goal and avoid token combat and "roleplaying" is just choosing which subset of these are available. This fails on every level: it's not interesting to play, it doesn't add replayability, it makes not playing the game a reward, and it utterly fails to deliver the experience of being that type of character. The fact that it says "Science" instead of "Persuade" or "Engineering" means nothing: they're all just "smarty person words to instantly get what I want".
I remember buying it on sale and having really good fun with it for a while, but I think I knew in my heart about 75% of the way through the main quest that this game had very little replay value. I put it down because I got distracted by something else that week, and I still haven't finished the game.
The end of the game felt like the half way point and when it ended boy, did I feel disappointed. Peril on Gorgon is pretty whatever too. Made me REALLY fucking mad that enemies scaled to you and killing higher leveled enemies does NOT give you high level gear but gear at your level. It's stupid.
Oh yeah, "unique" gear also scales with you, so if you were good enough to get to the underground post office in byzantium at level 5, you can eat shit with a downgraded weapon.
I get the vibe Obsidian were a bit too optimistic with The Outer Worlds given their size and budget but hopefully the Microsoft money will help them fix some of the games issues for future installments or seemingly similar games like Avowed
new vegas remastered?
well there is a minute benefit to helping the MSI, they help you invade the board at the end. but that's more of a story touch rather than an actual help as anything except the boss at the end are trivial.
This game was essentially just fall out in space but more watered down. Plus everybody has shitty hairstyles
How do you not have more subs?? Also for the amount of views on this the engagement is really high (comments & likes) which is rare on bigger videos. Keep up the great work!
How does this guy only have like 500 subscribers? Great video.
Hey bud, fantastic video, I’m about 40 minutes and I’m looking forward to the rest of it. Well put together, well edited, well thought out
You should have way more subscribers, I’m happy to be number 658
I don’t know if the algorithm exploits are still working, but the spiffing Britt does a series of videos on the TH-cam algorithm exploit that might be helpful in growing your channel. You deserve to have way way more subs than this, your content is on par with people who I’ve seen at 100,000 subs.
Best of luck, looking forward to watching more of your stuff!
I really enjoyed this game, but didn’t feel the ability to role play as I did with other games. It was fun on the surface level, but like you said it’s shallow. I think it was fun, but not as though provoking as something like FNV. I hadn’t fully been able to realize why I was left feeling like I was till this video, it’s very well made.
great video man, it’s only a matter of time before you blow up.
Is that a bomb threat
I like Adelaide as the mayor of edgewater personally and I think her resentment was more towards to reed not the actual town
I wish they used the example of mr house for the corporate side of edgewater instead of the original message!
You’ve hit the TH-cam attention bracket kid, keep it up
Somehow still a deeper RPG than Cyberpunk lmao. Wild.
could be a difference in taste, CP 2077 is a linear story with light rpg mechanics in an open world, outer worlds is open world rpg, with a story that accommodates different characters
@@Necropantz I think the world state would be different, outer worlds was a space opera with gigantic stakes; whatever you choose the colony of Halcyon changed forever, cyberpunk 2077 is a more personalized story, at the end of the day, the hero made little difference in the world
You did not play the DLC!?
Actually the game this reminds me of most is Rage 1: wake up from cryostasis in an unfamiliar, vaguely post-apocalyptic setting; shoot some nameless, blank slate "bandits"; faff about with random tasks you have no reason to care about because you have nothing better to do; be told in the last 30 minutes that it's time to FIGHT THA POWAH and bring down the evil "authority" that's been a complete non-entity in the story so far.
I tapped out 20 minutes in, but I hope I didn't give you enough credit. Better luck in your next video, friend.
Alright admit it, who else said fuck it and went corporate just because it felt like the game was trying to get you to be anti corporate.
Yo. Me and my slogan bot.
I'll update when you get to gameplay, but I feel like the writing really shouldn't go unnoticed. I enjoyed flirting with Gladys everytime we spoke to try and get deals. Sanjar genuinely made me laugh and I actually made sure Monarch was better off when I finished because I cared enough to cover my bases there and searched every nook and cranny to minimize bloodshed. And I wish Martin had a real storyline. There's a dialog option that appear when you leave and comeback where your character literally is like "hey Martin, what's up with you?" Not the exact wording but it not only is a nice change in dialog in general with NPCs but it's also an exceptional example of Obsidian being able to add dialog choices that define your character's personality. Again there's more examples of that with Sanjar who also goes through character development and rifts with your character depending on what you say. Again this game isn't AMAZING but I person enjoyed it. I call it an amazing blueprint because there's is so much good material, the game kinda opens itself up to a sequel being made but it strikes me as a oner. So hopefully they can take what worked here and refine it for the next release.
So on gameplay I pretty much agree. Skipping my essay length of digression I saw what they tried to do with companions boosting your stats, I think it should have essentially been easier eggs. Like I agree it's weird Felix boosts your persuasion but when you take his personality into account it makes more sense. He's an extremely likeable guy who doesn't try to start shit. He's the kind of person you see shooting the shit with a drink and game or he can have albeit surface level, but serious discussions. So back to my example using Felix, on the Grounbreaker if you fail the speech check to get the crew to let you in AND surrender he comes in with the back up and gets them to let you in at least.
Well structured, nicely argued and very constructive! I watched all of it in one sitting, the unrealized potential of this game just keeps irking me
Thank you! There is a lot of missed potential here. Obsidian really played it safe and the game suffers because of it.
Just meet Parvati and do her questline and you've pretty much seen the best this game can do. I tried to go through this game twice and gave up at about the same point each time. You've pretty much outlined every single problem I had with this game.
So, It's basically Fallout 4.7? After viewing critiques by Joseph Anderson and yours now, the points are basically the same without the "wtf" story of FO4. It seems that Obsidian and Bethesda within Microsoft now could do something better i hope (or just another fallout/outer worlds 76, i dunno)
Great video, lookibg forward for your content!
I actually like Fallout 4 better....
Honestly I just couldn't get into this. I love Fallout and I don't think this is a bad game by any means but I just can't get into this for some reason.
I can understand where you're coming from. To me, this game was a letdown. I was hoping for something exceptional, but that just wasn't delivered.
Very good video! I don't have much to critic besides: May be use section-cards/small title screens in your videos, so it's easier to visualize what you are talking about and more text in general, it's makes the video itself more interesting, in my opinion.
I love the rest though, subscription added!
Greetings from Berlin
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I'll keep that in mind for future projects
@@Engel_Regime I'm excited! :)
Very well put together video man. I do agree with some of your points like companions character vs there gameplay. But I personally love The Outer Worlds for actually doing what not many story driven RPG's do in actually creating a world with lots of potential beyond just giving a Codex.
I mean yes the game is not a massive accomplishment like New Vegas, but it has created a foundation to have a game set in a world to be so, and that is what makes many people praise it. It might not be the big critique of all things bad about corporations like expected, but it's got a foundation to eventually be and as for a first installment it very much is a fun experience on its own.
At the end of the day, Obsidian has worked hard to finally break out and if Outer Worlds was their ticket to the big time like now, then I can't help but feel that the game has done more good than bad.
I remember how this game was endlessly hyped up before it's release. After it officially went public, however, there was...
...
...practically nothing, outside of some people simping for it it out of spite. After exploring the Outer Worlds myself, I could see why; the story's aesop (while timely) felt much too forced, the exploration wasn't rewarding, the equipment and inventory were uninspired, and (my biggest issue/complaint) the barebones combat left me mentally starved (Honestly, I feel like I could write an entire paragraph or two on it.) There were some flashes of inspiration, but they just weren't worth dwelling on since they were drowned out by a sea of minimal effort.
In short, Obsidian Entertainment's "The Outer Worlds" was *_boring,_* and it's no anagnorisis that the reason it sold so well was it's timing.
They had a small budget and was meant to be a experience for players that wanted that old school rpg
That is true.
Then sell like it has small budget, if I'm gonna miss a shot in modern then I miss it by poorly aim and NOT the number say no
That can be used to excuse the smallish maps and linear main quest but not worldbuilding. I'd expect a low-budget RPG to have inferior environments, animations, voice acting and gunplay and much better writing.
@@justnoob8141 Dear Sir I’m sorry that it took two months to respond to you but the outer worlds is also trying to simulate old RPG‘s, and some people like building up their character so they can be better at something. If you really want in RPG where the number doesn’t dictate their value you can go and play fallout 4 that game is really fun but I don’t but I don’t like the fact that I don’t get to build up my character everything is just too oversimplified. my aiming is perfect even though I have a perception of one.
@@justnoob8141 What you are complaining about it’s a matter of your opinion you do not like building up your character why are you even playing RPG‘s in the first place.
I thought I was the only one! Everyone was raving so much about this game, I doubt they actually played it. I mean, its ok and it would be great if it had been released 10 years ago. Today is just feels bland and a little boring. I had to struggle to just play it after the initial hype...when you have no problem turning a game off after the first try, well thats never a good sign.
Even 10 years ago it would've been mediocre. That's after Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout NV, Mass Effect 1 & 2 and Dragon Age Origins. In fact, I think people would've shat on it for being a poor Fallout ripoff so soon after NV (and before the brand was tarnished by 4 & 76).
the super shallow rpg mechanics killed it for me
I was screaming at the end slides when they do you acknowledge that I 100% massacred everyone in the rich people city. I feel like in a story about class conflict the player burning a FUCKING CITY to the ground.
You know, the tonee of the game was where it lost me. And what do I mean by this? Well, the ads and infuencers were all treating the game like it was the next new vegas. And I expected a game with a similar tone.
And then it started. And then Phineas' ship's ramp got stuck. And my face just dropped.
How are you not over at least 1k subs?
Cuz he sucks and only haters who think pointing flaws of a budget AA but in whose mind its a AAA game is cool agree with him.
I sided with corpo because the devs didn’t want me to
What a rebel. Jimbo groomed you well.
@@thechosenundead2718 To celebrate my grooming I went to Applebees to have a drink with Sargon
@@mistermetokurarchives I hope you wore a nice suit
@@thechosenundead2718 it was 3 sizes too big
@@mistermetokurarchives good man
This is really good analysis, I think I was expecting it to be poorly thought out but it definitely wasn't! I'm hoping Josh Sawyer directs the Outer Worlds 2.
I'm glad I beat your expectations. If Pillars of Eternity is anything to go off, I hope he directs it as well.
Me: lets see if this guy is as good as Noah Gervais, Neverknowsbest, Chris Davis, J. Anderson and the rest.
Me 10 minutes later: yes.
Good job. I am sure your voice and opinions will be heard by all of us that search this hidden gems of lenghty videos about what we love.
I'm not quite sure if I'm on the level of some of the people you've mentioned, but I am truly grateful at even being compared to some of the genre's big names.
To be fair, 70 years is a long-ass time for a society. Case in point, communism behind the Iron Curtain. It was an absolutely broken system that completely strayed from its ideological roots and became a dictatorship with varying levels of personal freedom depending on the states, yet it only took about thirty or so years after the USSR occupied half of Europe for everyone to just quietly accept that this is how things were. 70 years is more than double of that, so I don't see the issue with the game's society simply accepting being stomped by the corporate boot as an essential part of life.
You're right. I look back on the video and regret saying the 70 years line because it simply isn't true. I still think my overall point still stands, though. I don't have an issue with the population becoming slaves of the board. The problem is the game has no world-building that describes how this came to be. Phineas' entire plan relies on people not being brainwashed by the board initially. There isn't anything in the game that showcases how this was achieved. There's very little history about the colony in general, which creates a world that lacks depth. Open world games rely heavily on their worlds lore to create a place that feels natural and real. With this solid foundation, a narrative for what the player will be facing can be created along with side quests, factions, and various other narrative tools. Outer Worlds does this somewhat, but it never dives deep enough. Leading to a shallow, and in my opinion, mediocre game.
Good job, keep making videos
I felt it was a good game provided you are not comparing it to FV. Not a great game but well above average.
Good review, thanks. The game has a lot of issues that pile up, but it's really hard to get past the basic problem of it simply not being a completed game... Thawing the colonists is both the narrative catalyst AND the endgame, which is ridiculously contrite and lazy.
Always happy to hear someone enjoyed the video. I think the game has a lot of problems that pile up over time. To me, the biggest issue was its narrative having some sizeable problems alongside the lack of world building. However, I think there's a solid foundation that if improved upon could lead to something great. Thanks for the support!
Every single issue you and a lot of other people had about the lack of enemy variety, boring and repetitive combat, over-abundance of resources, etc. in this game could also be applied to Breath of the Wild (except Breath of the Wilds’ issues are a lot worse since there’s nothing else to do in the game besides the combat) and people considered that game “a masterpiece”, “perfect” and “the greatest experience they’ve ever had in a video game” while giving this game pretty average review scores. Just food for thought.
Great script but the delivery of lines is a bit monotone, which is kinda awkward. I suggest you either "act out" the lines to give them the proper emphasis and personality, or adjust your script to fit the more dry and monotone delivery of your voice.
Yeah, the monotone of my delivery is something I struggle with when making videos. I don't find it challenging to express myself in normal conversation, but when speaking into a microphone, it becomes challenging for some reason. Thanks for the advice. I'm always trying to improve the videos.
@@Engel_Regime Good luck! Looking forward to seeing more from you.
@@Engel_Regime with tonality in videos it helps me to imagine im talking to a friend, or reading to a friend, rather than reading a script on my own. Just an idea, might be useful
@@MiaRBeauty Thanks for the advice! I'll consider that with my current and future projects.
Meanwhile, I think he sounds like a much nicer and more genuine oxhorn. This video is an unexpected surprise.
A solid effort from a BBB studio which made a game that delivered more than it needed too by spades. You know why it went by so fast? Cause unlike of games it wasn't crashing every 10 minutes.
Solid game in a solid engine with an acceptable B grade story. Again, B is still a very high stand when you compare it to the $100 millions games like Fallout 76 which is just absolute dumpster fire.
Waste of 60 bucks is what it was.
This game had many flaws though i hope obsidian continues with this series
Hmmmm I feel where your coming from but most of ideas are too strong for the average Joe/Joanna lazing about on there couch playing this I enjoy being a Big Old Long Dick God King on a games after I build my character too but Balance is best! Yet most people (DEVELOPERS) aren’t going to hard for the old school RPG Times anymore. Sadly 🥲
Played it for free and still want a refund
Agreed with you on this critique. Criminally overrated game with poor overall gameplay - repetitive enemies, mediocre combat, not enough diversity in the maps, ridiculously easy even on the hard difficulty (not the 'Supernova' which looked like a damn chore) and the absolute garbage loot.
Feels like it got the praise it did because it was designed/scripted by females for female gamers and has LGBTQ+ narratives. Damn near all the protagonist/good characters you interact with are female too. I've nothing against this but if it was designed as a niche game it should've been called out as such and not made to come across as a solid 9/10 or 10/10 experience as the journalists (hacks) made it to be. Look past all this and it's a mediocre, 5/10 or 6/10 game (if you're generous).
Just glad I didn't pay full price for this crap game. I played it on the PS4 and after the first story driven trophy it looked like players just lost interest in the game as it went from 74% to 15% for the second trophy. So interest was lost pretty quickly too. I kept at it and finished the game but it kept getting even more lacklustre towards the end. Because my character was a 'jack of all trades' as you pointed out, I ended up with high dialogue and ended up bypassing the 'boss fight' at the end too. Grrrr. No intention to go back as the game has ZERO replay-ability in my honest opinion.
I liked your critique of this game and urge you to keep at it. Another 'gem' of a game to take a look at is 'Death Stranding'. Hahaha
When I first started up Outer Worlds I was excited to see what Obsidian had managed to accomplish. Things were good at first, however, you begin to see the cracks once you get past Edgewater. The game has a lot of weaknesses and feels half baked in many of its systems and design decisions. The game is not terrible, but I would say it doesn't compare to how it was marketed before release. I'm glad you liked my critique! I'm always trying to make more videos and improve them. Sadly, sometimes life gets in the way of what you want to do. I haven't personally played Death Stranding, but it is something I have been meaning to look into. I should be releasing one of my longer critique videos sometime next week, so rest assured, I'm not going anywhere.
@@Engel_Regime I, personally, loved Death Stranding. It is a game that is appreciated by 'story' gamers, there is not much action in it but the story is absolutely amazing. Great world, great atmosphere and great voice acting. The best walking simulator I have ever played😉
Wonderful video. It's gratifying to see that there are people still willing to criticize Obsidian, especially with all the butt-kissing they get from Bethesda haters. Bethesda deserves some good criticism in the wake of Fallout 76, but Outer Worlds isn't even up to the quality of Fallout 3, let alone New Vegas, the game it's supposed to be a spiritual successor to. Chris Avellone leaving Obsidian really did screw them hard. New Vegas was mature enough that they would show you both a corporate state and a dictatorship as viable alternatives to a western-style democracy. The Outer Worlds seems to just peddle the narrative of "corporations bad!" without actually portraying corporations as clever enough to be bad guys.
I mean, if we look at Mass Effect 1 and 2, two games that were made in the past generation, they portrayed corporate dystopia a lot better. Yes, corporations can be bad, but these games let you navigate the corporate world and work within it to achieve your goals on different planets.
On the world of Feros, for instance, you encounter a colony set up by a corporation named ExoGeni, they're under attack by a bunch of space robots known as the Geth. But you find out later on that the company willingly allowed a 50,000-year-old parasitic life form to control the colonists so they can study it, and once the colony re-establishes contact with the corporation, ExoGeni wants to purge the place to remove all witnesses. You can gun down the local corporate representative to show that such behavior won't be tolerated, or you can talk them down and say that sparing and curing the colonists would be better since it would let them pose as saviors; they survived a Geth attack on a frontier world, and the corporate rep realizes that no one has ever gone broke playing the "champion of humanity" card, and they work with you to help the colonists in return for using them as propaganda.
On the ice world of Noveria, you have corporations setting up private labs so they can do icky experiments without governments noticing, and the local corporate administrator of Port Hanshan is using his position to control corporate security and ransack his corporate rival's office. The administrator is keeping you from going to the labs and confronting one of the prime suspects you're going after in your investigation as a government agent. But, you can work around that; you can rat out a local smuggler to the administrator, and he lets you go to the labs and even pays you. Or, you can obtain evidence of his wrongdoing and give it to either his rival or to a corporate policewoman, both of whom will give you a pass to go to the labs. The administrator's rival uses the evidence to blackmail him, and the policewoman will use it to arrest him. You can then go to the labs, and you discover that your rival is using one of his front corporations to revive a dead race of space bugs so they can use them as shock troopers. You put a stop to that and deal with the suspect you've been going after. When the media later questions you on why you shut down those labs, you can explain that you did it to save yourself, your crew, and the good people of Noveria, which nets you some positive points and makes you look good to the press.
In Mass Effect 2, you get to the world of Illium, a world of fancy cities and a legal structure where everything from dangerous drugs and slavery are legal. You run into a gang of thugs who made deals with shifty merchants to sell dangerous drugs, and you work with the local police to run them both in. You do run into a paranoid corporate nut whose reaction to an assassin sneaking into her building amongst the workers is to have her mercenaries gun down the workers, and you have to kill her. You run into an old friend who's now working as a shady information broker, you run across people betting stocks and making money out of other people failing, you see cases of corporate sabotage, you see bands of corporate mercenaries who kill so long as they're paid. Illium is so filled with corporate hijinks that the greeter who meets you when you land advises you to not sign anything without reading the fine print.
You even run across a slave broker and her slave; your first instinct is to threaten the slave broker to free her slave, but you then find out that the slave sold herself into slavery because she tried to play the stocks and it blew up on her face. The slave broker is trying to find a job for her slave so she can work off her debt and buy back her freedom, and they're eyeing a local AI corporation for work. The corporate rep doesn't want to hire a slave because it makes her company look bad, but you can convince her or threaten her to get her to hire the slave, so the slave can work off her debt and be free. Then there's a racist corpo rep who uses her contracts to run experiments on the people of Feros, but you can find out that the reason why she does this and why she hates other races is because her spouse and her daughters were killed by alien robots; you can get her to stand down by reminding her that her loved ones loved working with aliens, and that they wouldn't want to see her acting like this.
In the Outer Worlds, they beat you to death with the message of corporations being bad, but the corporations aren't the smart kind of evil, they're the stupid kind of evil. The kind of evil where they can't even figure out proper farming methods or that eating nothing but Saltuna is bad for your health. Meanwhile, the corporations in Mass Effect carry out icky experiments that can revive a dead race, they study life forms that are thousands of years old, and they carry out purges and re-introduced slavery into the galactic market. But they aren't just brainlessly evil; their form of corporate slavery has people selling themselves into slavery to get rid of their debts, and you can deal with the corporate structure in ways that don't just involve bludgeoning through with a shotgun.
Not to mention the fact that the corporations in Mass Effect actually tidy up their place of work; aside from Feros, which was a warzone, both Noveria and Illium look tidy. Port Hanshan in Noveria is as pristine and clean as places can go, and Illium is like Coruscant, but prettier, down to the point where even the back-alleys look clean. Byzantium in the Outer Worlds, by contrast, is only nice on the outside, but filthy inside, and you begin to wonder how these idiots can even run a city, let alone a star system.
Basically, the corporations in Mass Effect are a more realistic picture of corporate dystopia; they're corrupt, but they're clever, and they tidy themselves up so that they look presentable to the public. The corporations in the Outer Worlds are filthy, incompetent, and it doesn't make sense that they're in charge considering that not only do they abuse their workers, but they sell cheap weapons to the public. How they can oppress the working public despite having cheap guns readily available to them is beyond me; the last thing you want to do to a populace that you exploit for corporate slave labor is give them lots of guns. Your corporate empire would get overthrown in an afternoon.
Looking over all this, it's hard for me to take Obsidian's Outer Worlds seriously. It's a corporate dystopia written by edgy teenagers, not someone who's actually been through a corporate hell where they were trapped by rules and regulations. The fact that people think this game is a Fallout-killer is beyond me; people's standards must've gone down significantly over the last decade.
Dude , there is at least 3 videos that have the same exact title and same exact thoughts as you . Umm ... you video is what your say this game is lol
One perfect example for my problem with the game (it's writing!) is in the NoClip documentary about writing the characters - th-cam.com/video/n31HEWJIzRQ/w-d-xo.html (at 11:11) where the author talks about changing a character because the initial version was too creepy for the metoo era. I almost screamed at my screen at that point, "NO! I want you to give me something to ponder, something to think about, tell me something about the metoo era pleeeeease!!", but instead they chose to make a game that falls totally flat because nobody gets hurt, nobody has any edges, evil is comically evil and so on. What a missed opportunity, and what a waste from a studio that, in the past, knew writing difficult stories so well and could've done so much more with difficult topics. This is in no way meant to be "SJWs ruined my game!", quite the opposite because I'd have no problem with the game being much more political. But apparently they did the opposite and chose self-censorship because difficult topics shouldn't be talked about at all, someone could get upset. :(
Any game with sneaking and attacking that doesn't have dedicated sneak kills is garbage. A child could kill mike tyson if they get stabbed by surprise in the neck but you just do a normal swing?
Obsidian: capitalism sucks; now pay full "triple a" price for our half baked game.
Very interesting video.
I was really excited about the game prior to release and it probably ended to be my biggest video-game disappointment ever.
I lost interest so quickly I never finished the game. I liked edgewater but past that part of the game I was just bored. The combat doesn't work and the story isn't particularly interesting.
The universe and some characters are great and I hope they reuse the setting but it looks like a typical case of a game being ruined by changing over and over what the game should be and releasing the game in the end because they ran out of money.
The fact that the very first companion and the very first are of the game are the most fleshed out things of the game is not random.
0:05: *Cough* Cyberpunk *Cough*
50:06 that was my main dissapointment in the game. everyone is like "he is not what he seems" but in the end.... lame
56:54
Man I hate the look of this game. I think I’ve realized that’s what keeps me from trying to play this.
You don't believe that corpos took over everything without resistance? Who is your Senator or Congressman? Did you have to look up either? You also asked how rights were taken without issue. Patriot Act. Answers that. This game maybe lacking, though it is pretty realistic to me...
Yeah... Maybe? But we actually SEE this deterioration taking place over the course of our lives; as where the Outer Worlds universe has about 20 hours of gameplay to make us believe that a farcicle, incompetent corporation pulled this over on the population. Understanding how something happens and it being believably pulled off in a narrative are completely different.
@@brett66 Two month late response. The patriot act was 2 months before vote. It isn't "lives," It was discussed for 30 days before it happened, publicity. 20 hours of gameplay? We don't get 2 hours before this game breaks itself. Also just look at Wal-Mart. Also I wouldn't reply to such late post.
I couldn't get into it. Played 12hrs+ and stopped. Story and environment felt bland.
I don't like the companions at all and npcs in general are kind of woke
Got this for $30 on Epic--tsk-tsk Steam for taking $60 for an AA game.
Love the review but low sound voice make me press the dislike button
Boring.
This guy just rambles on.
The game sucked imo. I aligned myself with the board and was hoping for the game to finally start get interesting but then the game abruptly ends.