I completely agree. I have always tried to expose my horses to everything. Most people are so timid that they cause the horse to get tense. I used to ride a friend's Appaloosa when I was horseless. I never had any issues with that horse being skittish. Later I when I got a horse I would ride with the owner and the Appaloosa. There would be something up ahead. I would hear her say, oh no. She would get tense and the horse would start freaking out and she would take us on a different route. Same horse. Different rider. Horses want a confident rider. It builds their own confidence. The work Tim did with Saber shows how well that works. There is nothing wrong with challenging your animal. It promotes growth and they are happier once they become more confident. I don't understand why anyone would want their animal to be stuck in a terrified mindset when there are ways to increase confidence.
Reason why an off-track Thoroughbred is great for their blasé attitude towards things that spook other horses. They have seen it all at the track, machinery, odd footing, other horses, flapping tarps, etc. Got one who showed the way to a lot of warmbloods at a show, WBs refused to cross a small ditch, Tbred calmly walked over it and the others followed.
@@susantunbridge4612 But they haven't seen COWS! A friend got an OTTB stallion and that horse was TERRIFIED of cows for a month or two. The mares in his band, being ranch raised, were calm and he slowly realized that cows were not a threat.
I have found and observed that most people who have denigrated Arabians horses aren't smart enough to keep ahead of them mentally in their training. They are not deadheads or unreasonable. They want to understand and do the right thing. Bond with their people. And they are not a breed you can bully around. They like to be asked, not treated harshly.
Perfectly said. The rider has to be smarter than the Arabian they are on. Too many people cant understand that. The most bombproof horses I have ever seen have been Arabians.
They are, or should be, the most domesticated of horses. Only a few (human) generations ago, they lived alongside the Bedouin having a status considerably above that of livestock. Favourites - mares in particular - would hang around the women's tented quarters, give birth in their presence and even enter the tents occasionally.
After teaching my arab to back up twice by getting off after the first few steps and praising him, he would backup all over the place when he thought it was time to quit. You need a good sense of humor because they are thinking and learn very fast.
Sabre's training program matched what the owner wanted. This was a sheltered, stabled stallion, from a single-track goal of breeding. This was not a request for show ring perfection, but for trails with possible wild animal interactions. Tim acclimated the horse to the outside world, gave the horse confidence, and the skills to read the human. Pear Tree Ranch did the same thing to a gelding that spooked, over-reacted, and did not have the skills to walk out of & think through his panic. Acclimate the horse, provide physical skills, and most important - read the situation via the human's reaction. Per the video of the owners ride, Sabre looks safe, happy, and is going to grow into his new job. What a lucky horse. (Sorry, Tim, that you have to defend your program.)
Agree that it is sad some keyboard warriors have to get mixed up into what is obviously a success story. Sabre has a great mind and you can see Tim work with that, understand the horse, and as you said grow him. From getting him in December and then now what a difference. Sabre looks happy and engaged. What more can you ask for.
my favorite horse was an arabian. smart, fast, willing, curious, learned extremely quickly, not at all flighty, loved to go out and explore with me. pretty much a perfect horse. it's sad to see people knocking the whole breed.
Absolutely. My second favorite horse of all time (after my childhood POA!) was an Arabian mare, half Egyptian and half Polish. She was very reserved but anyone could ride her from the smallest child to the most experienced adult and she would tailor her actions to their needs. She was a real gem. Not a bit flighty or reactive, but you had to be respectful of her or she'd just walk away.
I was privileged to know 2 old Arabian stallions that were kid safe and dead broke. One was ridden and shown by a seven year old girl. They were exceptional examples of the breed. I'd never try training a horse like that, but they exist.
You trained him beautifully. People on the internet are ridiculous in their comments. The person that made that comment probably has a stick horse they ride around their parents basement. Love your channel and tips. I have used so many of your tips on my own horses and it has made them better at working under saddle and made me a better horse owner.
My very first horse 50 years ago was a green Arabian. I think God took mercy on us both as we both survived our mutual greeness, lol. I don't know how many times I came out of the saddle, but at age of 12 I would say with a 100% certainty, I bounced much better than I do now. He did teach me how to keep my seat and so much more. I still have a soft spot for the breed and I think fondly of the many adventures I had with that lovely horse in my childhood, but in all honesty, I no longer like to ride the hot ones...I have moved on to gaited trail horses, lots of zoom (when asked for), but less drama. Well done with Sabre
Sabre is just such a nice horse, and I am glad his present owner got him! You have really taken the time to give Sabre a super education!! I have always respected all horse breeds...each has spectacular in-born characteristics and a good trainer can successfully bring out the good!
Decades ago I owned 3 Arabians. Before I bought him, my stallion Bataan had stood at stud at the Kellogg Arabian Ranch. There he was trained by Fred Cahill, who used horse whisperer methods. Bataan was. very calm, well mannered and adaptable to any situation. The colt we had by Bataan and our Arab mare was also trained by Fred Cahill. The result was the same. Fred even took Batahi into the mountains bear hunting.
It seems to me that some people criticise the people who accomplish whay they cannot. Saber is doing great thanks to you! I've owned Arabians for almost forty years and will never own a different breed.❤❤
I hope that when Sabre goes home that his owner will do a TH-cam video for the Sabre fans. He was so interesting to watch, in part because of his backstory of not being socialized because he was used as a stud horse. There was an innocence and that he was a blank page to be written on. He has turned out so well, and it could have gone the wrong direction with other methods than you used. - My favorite Sabre video was when you turned him loose with the little cow to see how he would react with the brick of hay. I think you were hoping that he would chase the cow away, but Sabre, at least in the video, wasn't really afraid of the cow, but wanted nothing to do with it. So the little cow, seeing that Sabre wasn't going to chase him, went up to the yummy hay and ate it without interference.
People who call Arabs crazy basically want a walking sofa to ride. Same attitude towards Thoroughbreds, they're not riders, they are passengers, and don't want any trouble or any reason to have to think. Arabs and Tbreds will make you a good rider.
Great job! The best horse i have ever had is my Arabian mare - because she has been trained from the start to think instead of panic. She is the smartest, sweetest, bravest horse i have known so it makes me sad when people automatically assume Arabians are all nutjobs... but i can DEFINITELY understand why they aren't the horse for everyone. And I think you have done a brilliant job highlighting their unique characteristics and demonstrating how to bring out the best in them. Thanks for explaining your process!
Proof your program works. Period. People add their own experiences into their judgements of the process (muddying the waters) There is no one that can refute the results on this sweet boy.
I'm sure he enjoyed his stud life but now he's using the brain between his ears instead of his legs. Great transformation and interesting to see how adaptable you are as a trainer.
Oh good heavens, the person who made that comment was just showing how little experience they'd had with real, genuine Arabians. They actively _want_ to understand the world around them, and are infinitely curious about it, while still maintaining their amazing reactivity. I think it's abuse to NOT encourage them to learn as much as possible, whatever you want, really, and channel that brain power and reactivity into 'useful' things - even party tricks, if that's what floats your boat - rather than just letting them teach themselves mischief and develop stable vices through monotony and frustration. They are _so much_ more than just 'pretty'.
I had an Arab mare and she was the sweetest ever, very fast of course but gentle and smart. When galloping, I could have fallen more than once, hadn't she moved under me and put me back right in the middle of the saddle.
Agree 100 percent. The Arabians I’ve trained have become phenomenal riding partners, but they need exposure. (One was afraid of pheasants popping out of hedges, so I taught her to flush them out. She became an excellent “bird horse”and would tell me when one was nearby.😂) Eventually they figure stuff out and are phenomenal, engaged partners. My favorite trail adventures have been on Arabs. They will go to the ends of the earth for you, but God forbid you mistreat one. They remember! And yet somehow I’m a quarter horse person.🤷🏻♀️
I have worked with many breeds over the years, but my favorites always have been the Arabs. I love their thinking and devotion. But you CANNOT bully them into doing what you want them to do.
So very happy for Sabre and his person. You and Robert did such a great job with him. My Arab is busy-minded and opinionated and I'm finding that our times together are much better if we start out with play such as pushing a barrel around or tossing a toy around. He's become much less reactive but will probably always be dramatic at times but that's just part of the Arabian package and part of what makes them special ❤
Thank you for this video. It's a great example of introducing new things and giving the horse space to work through things. The horses in the corral next to him were calm, rider was calm and confident, so he could use them to know it's not scary, since they were just hanging around. No yelling, banging of jugs, tossing dirt for reaction etc. Just a day in the dailly life of a real working horse. Thanks also for recognizing Arabs are thinkers - the brain never gets turned off on them, you just need to learn how to use it to an advantage.
Try a Danish Warmblood combined with a thoroughbred with excellent sire and dam. Well it took many hours but so worth it. He could move like a bullet out of a gun but never was viscous. He knew I loved him and expected that love and respect to be reciprocated. It was !!! My heart horse !!!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge online for free! I have an extremely reactive Lusitano and struggle a lot with him mirroring my anxiety. I started watching your videos today and it encouraged me to try out new strategies with him already. It’s a shame I live in Germany haha, I wish we had more trainers like you over here!
Congratulations on what yee achieved with this lad. I'm a firm believer that horses, like dogs, are happier with a purpose and ultimately fulfilling what they were bred to do. Great to see this horse getting to enjoy life
My Arabian is a champion,[ retired ), reined cow horse champ, exceptional trail horse and exceling as a mounted shooting horse. I can put beginners on him clear up to advanced . They are exceptional and always 10 steps ahead of a trainer whereas quarter horses are only 2! And yes I have quarters to! Oh yea and I’ve beat quarter horses in cutting, reining and ranch versatility events…
I had NO doubt you and Robert would do well by Sabre. Great pics inn the forest!! Envious of the blue skies and short sleeves! That first comment was just plain ignorant and rude, and I for one am glad you did not blur the name. Too bad the person probably won't see it bc they have gone elsewhere to harass someone else!
Great Video and explanation how to train different characters. You and Robert did a great job. And I agree to 100% with lazygardens: the more they see, the calmer they are. Greetings from Germany
I was an assistant trainer of long distance endurance horses. We had a 3 year old in for a gentle start since his full brother had refused to be ‘broken’ and ended up euthanised. He was a nutcase with our gentle approach. His turning point was when he took it on himself to jump out of his field and run to town. He saw a lot and probably frightened himself silly. After that, he listened to our training and we got him lightly trail riding. He went on to be a good endurance horse. I wish I’d had your videos to learn from back then.
You did a beautiful job wkth Saber, i watched as he started to realize all those things he taught him I saw him transform into a veey nice horse vis ownse will.enjoy. you are a trainer who really cares
I originally found your videos because of Sabre I have absolutely loved watching all of your videos.❤Your training style, lots of fabulous information. Thank you so much
Oh, how you do things is without a doubt a wise course of action. I have seen many Arabs that behave like this. I have seen some that were not and they were the best saddle horses you could wish for! I never knew what the difference was until I watched your videos on Sabre.
Their blood lines have something to do with it , too. I have owned 6 Arabians over many years and almost all of them have been from the Polish bloodlines. They have been overall calmer and moree sensible. The one I have now is Egyptian on his sire line (Morafic, Egyptian Prince Thee Minstrel, and Thee Desperado) and he is the "hottest "horse , most reactive one i've had, but there are always exceptions.
I have an Arabian and he is awesome! They have the best minds. Glad you are working with this truly exceptional breed. Yes, they love to think and I like to just train as I do things I want to do. The real training happened on the trail and just doing the basics in the arena. He sometimes thought he didn’t have to participate, but his curiosity always got the better of that, so it is not hard to get them re-engaged in training. They love reward and will work for it. Timing is everything, so the figure out what the goal is and you have to figure out what rewards are their favorite. Mine likes REST. It is amazing the effort he put into the perfect leg yield if he could count on me to keep up my end of bargain and give him rest. He is not afraid of anything, but he would like to make you believe otherwise. He loves reward for being brave. So reward them when they are not spooking. If he is standing calmly I reward him even if there is no obvious challenge present. If we walk by something that he is not scared of and nothing happens, I reward him because he certainly could have gone the other way and acted scared based on my experience with my first horse. It just shows them what you want overall and they are always looking for ways to please you. Hopefully that made sense.
Lovely to see the turnaround with Sabre, all he needed was someone with patience to understand his fears and work through them and so nice to see an owner spend the time and money to help their horse.
Great job! Confidence before discipline. I had a quarab and he was amazing my kids did all 5 events on him and he was running barrels into his 30's. You always had to wait on him to understand things. Never could hammer on him. He didnt want to back up so we had to figure out how his brain was working and approach it different then any other horse we have had. He was so good for the kids! Most people are not smart enough to train Arabians. 😅
Awesome video 👏 thanks for sharing Sabre's journey ❤ I see too many amateur owners that are well meaning, but unfortunately train these kinds of horses the wrong way. Most of the time the horse is smarter than their human, and it turns into disaster 😢 thanks for sharing all your good wisdom! Too many dressage horses can't leave the ring or blow up in the ring because they don't get started with this kind of foundation. Broke is broke no matter breed or discipline. Love your channel!!
Tim - I came across your videos with Sabre and was completely hooked. I so enjoy and respect the way you trained this young untrained Arab to reach his potential to be an enjoyable riding partner for his owner. (Sabre is a double to my Arab I owned MANY years ago as a teenager. The same busy brain activity and reactions - I've been there!) Your different training methods and mental/psychology approach to the breed difference between Arabs versus QHs is CRITICAL to their successful POSITIVE training. Owners need to understand that selecting the right breed and horse temperament (gelding vs mare) is important to a successful partnership to enjoy their riding goals. I simply exposed my Arab the way I had ridden my ponies so maybe I was fearless - but it was about exposure and gaining confidence and trust. I was always very observant to get him mentally back to me. He became an incredible fearless trail horse who LOVED to swim. Cows, dogs, mean goose hanging off his tail, dirt bikes - nothing phased him. I rode him hunt seat and he enjoyed hunter paces and jumping even if we were a bit too fast and he would have preferred more mileage. I owned him for 27 years and lost him at age 30 - RIP Sundance.
I had a Quarter Horse mare who had a lot of TB in her, she was stall raised, cold backed and spooky like Saber. My Dad helped me with her, and I was able to do a lot with her in the 30 years I had her. Some trail riding, a few shows and a parade and years of riding around the neighborhood. She didn't mind normal suburban traffic, and got used to traffic, and the noise of an Army Base. A spooky horse can be taught to stand still, instead of jumping out of their skin. Thanks for the great videos!
I own three Arabs, and I trained them all myself. I take pieces of information from multiple different trainers and mesh it to work with Arabs. Tim, you are dead on about them needing their mind busied. Otherwise, they will busy the rider's time. This kind of training is what makes the Arabian so versatile. It is excellent for desensitizing it to wildlife, sudden loud noises, and being asked to give.
I have really enjoyed watching the videos of you working with Sabre. I don't have an Arabian but I have a Morgan/QH whom is very smart and high energy. I could relate when you said you can never wear them out, you need to give them something to focus on. I have experienced trainers at clinics and lessons that just didn't know what to do with her because they are more used to Quarter horses and think you can just wear a horse down.
It shows that different breeds require a different strategy to train. They have a brain, especially Arabians. Super super smart, but super sweet aswell. I had a 7/8th Arab gelding from 3.5years old. The 1st ride, while test riding him, was in an arena, where a 3yr old boy would drive remote control cars in and out through the trees onto it. He stopped, looked with ears pricked, then continued to walk on. There wasn't one time during that ride I didn't feel uneasy or unsafe on him. I am used to big 17 hand off the track t/breds, where they see grass, open area and just start snorting then bolt off. Only once did he bolt on me, on a bridlepath, they had a gasline on it, and it released the buildup of gas, he bolted and I bailed off the side as I already had lost a stirrup. I sold him at 7years old as I wanted to do eventing again and wanted a bigger horse to do it on. Ended up with a disaster horse and gave up riding altogether.
I do have a question and hopefully won't get flamed for it. I wonder if Arabians are actually used for moving cows around...I mean, I get the logic - you want the horse to know what a cow is, see how it moves, etc, so it doesn't get spooked or hurt. But I am asking about the versatility of the breed in general. I figure this group is a bunch of horse folks so I might get a more informed answer here rather than doing a Google search. What do folks use Arabians for other than showing them? Honestly curious because I think they're gorgeous and don't get credit for being as good a horse as they are.
Yes, they do work cows on ranches. They do Reined cow horse, reining, cutting, trail, cutting, etc etc. there is no other breed that can do as many disciplines as as Arabians. It is the only breed that allows kids to show stallions. We have one in our barn who is owned and shown by a 16 year old. My horse’s sire was shown by an 8 year old and he won at a national show.
@@patperrier4599 you are very welcome. I love all horses, but my Arabs have been absolutely the best. My first one got me hooked when I knew nothing about them. She jumped, dressage, western pleasure , trail, hunt seat and then I could take her out on the trail and into the mountains. She took lead line kids around the pen and walk trotters. She was absolutely amazing. I had her for 19 years of her 29. I miss her every day. I have another now that is so much like her. I love him to pieces.
The Arab horse will do anything any other horse does, restricted only by its physical size and make-up. Given half a chance, it must be one of the most versatile horses there is. My Arab mare was broken to harness, used for Riding for the Disabled AND we competed at a high level in Endurance. A friend registered her with British Dressage and they got a few points. As she and I aged, and my hip started bothering me when I rode, I did a lot of liberty work with her and trained her to do 'tricks'. When my hip was treated successfully, and I was back to riding again, oh what fun we had at times... if she had been human, she would have been one of the greatest dramatic actresses of her generation.
"You will never meet a hater doing better than you!" David Goggins; listen to these powerful words immortalised in song by Akira the Don. Keep up the great work, Tim; lucky Sabre 🤩
Arabs don't have to be crazy, but their sensitive nature, intelligence and swift reactions to perceived danger makes them very easy to ruin. Also, in my experience, Egyptian Arabians bred in the US seem to be much more reactive and anxious compared to the Polish Arabians bred in the US and especially in Europe. I'm really glad to see Sabre growing into himself so well with you, Tim. He is still a bit tentative but his confidence and courage are way up and that's just wonderful! I hope whoever ends up with him is worthy of such a beautiful fellow.
I remember when riding a horse along a less used road and going by a pasture full of Holstein cows. The closer I got the herd of cows moved closer to the road and freaked out the horse. You never know what will set the horse off.
That was one of the most idiotic comments I've ever heard, I have been riding Arabians and training them my whole life.( I am 60) the more you can expose them without walking on egg shells the better of you are, putting a horse in with a cow is NOT abuse, you did that perfect he was able to get away if he wanted to while realizing that they weren't that scary, I enjoyed watching you work with him, I'm always trying to learn new ideas on things that will work,
Used to have Arabians -showed a couple of stallions and about four mares. Believe me they are different, there’s a most wonderful creatures on the face of this planet and they are highly intelligent of course there are individuals like in all breeds There are exceptions. One thing I know is certain, every cowboy has a problem with an Arab. I have never seen one yet that didn’t. You cannot work with him like you work with a ordinary ranch horse. they will make great ranch horses, cutting horses roping horses trail horses you name it. But they do not want to be dominated. Working with them is extremely different than working with other horses.
I've trained 5 Arabians. All with great brains. But it only takes 1 boarding stable to ruin your horse by not feeding them or physically harming them. Also went on a trail ride person stopped for food. I said we need to get it to go. 102 degrees outside. My horse never was safe to trailer again. Ruined by an incompetent person who had control of trailer. She ran out backwards to get out of trailer from then on. How hot was the trailer that day. People are stupid towards horses
Incredible job! I'm wondering if I can do similar training to my fruit loop dog. :-). Covid pup, isolated his first two years, that is terrified of everything - and now is so sure the world is out to kill him. :-(.
🤣🤣🤣 I have one of those too!! She's so terrified of everything, but it seems more her instinct than isolation. I've used a lot of Tim's methods with training her. I incorporated his ask, tell, demand (I needed it because I'm a softy with animals), and I also got her to stop pulling on her leash by changing directions every time she pulled. Now, she'll walk close and if I say "this way" she knows to stop and look at me because I'm about to go a different direction. Good luck!!!
Arabians are the best. I owned an Egyptian Arabian and I'm not a good rider but my boy was the best horse ever! They all have their own personality like all breeds and Arabians reactions ARE NOT ALL BIG!!! Give this amazing breed a break.
"Fruit loops for brains" is what you get when you take an intelligent, athletic animal and deny them every natural learning experience by confining them in an unnatural setting by themselves. So many Arabians are bred more for a dishier face than anything else. They're often pulled away from their dams as early as possible and raised in stalls as if they're made of fine china. They're kept groomed to perfection so they can be pulled out at any moment to show off for visitors. Their turnout is often into a small arena or other controlled environment where they can finally strut their stuff a little. The more hyped up they are, the better. The stallions tend to lead the most mundane existence alone with their overprotective caretakers. Any injury or scar could end their show career and devalue their owner's investment, so they are not offered much of an opportunity to be a horse. This can be the case with show horses of any breed, but it seems to be the norm for a lot of Arabian owners (or at least it was for a long time). Over the last 45 years I have bought a lot of Arabians, bred a few of my own and rescued many "crazy Arabs". I've raised, rehabbed and trained a lot of horses of various breeds, but the Arabians stole my heart. The best thing you can do with a "crazy Arab" is turn them out with other experienced horses (not just other sheltered stall babies) and let them learn how to be a real horse instead of a Breyer horse model. They figure things out quickly and get their minds in working order. Expose them to as much as possible. If you do this, they will be as easy or easier to train than any other horses. They are very smart and capable of picking things up very quickly (good or bad).
It's so goofy to me: you can show someone a border collie doing flyball and a Newfoundland working hard at holding down the couch, and it's pretty easy to get them to understand that two dogs that look so different are happiest doing different things and should get different training to make them good pets. But then, because horses are all more or less big and brownish, somehow it makes sense to train them all alike...? No?? What on earth??? My horse is a purebred Arabian, Polish/Egyptian and level-headed as the day is long, but at 31 years old he will still jig and jog for miles on the trail once he gets bored. Did owning an Arabian prepare me for the brain of the average Paso Fino? Oh Heck No, son. Does training Paso Finos actually prepare you to train mustangs? I've been told the answer is "ahahaha.. no." Horse breeds are just as unique as dog breeds, and yeah .. they all need sit-stay-walk on leash basics, sure, but the really quick minded ones need different handling. Not that hard to grasp!
He wasn't bucking the horse out. He was riding through the horse's tantrum, and a short one at that. One of my Arabs would do the same thing when she was learning to process not getting her way. I started her as a 9 yo. The previous owners didn't know what to do with her, so she was only halter broke. It takes a massive amount of patience and creativity to train an Arab. When they are given a job, they learn so much faster.
Arabs, in the last few decades, seem to have been almost bred to be "Fruit Loops", especially the show/halter animals. I love the breed in general. Heck, I like all horse breeds. But some breeders have to make their horses something they're not. My Arab mare, definitely a western type, with champion bloodlines, and professional training, was as reasonable as an intelligent horse could be. But then, that was 30 years ago.
Well Arabs are (sometimes) fruitless hahaha. I have owned several- mostly very green. My favorite was a gelding that had been ridden 4 times. He spooked at literally everything, but after lots of miles and different experiences the only thing he shied at was the UPS truck lol. Never got over that big dark thing coming at him
I think the calves were not a good choice. When you decide to challenge a worried horse you want to have control over the size and timing of the challenge. If it is too big a challenge you need to be able to reduce the challenge and if it is not enough you want to be able to increase the challenge moment to moment. The same with presenting and removing the challenge. With the calves you have almost no control to adjust the size and timing of the challenge. The calves will behave as they choose to behave irrespective what works best for the horse. I also don't think making blanket assessments of horses based on breed is rarely accurate or helpful - including Arabs. I find there is as big a difference in the nature of a horse within a breed as there is between breeds.
Interesting how you say that the cows were too much and that giving characteristics about a breed are inaccurate. Everything Tim said was shown to be true and has worked extremely well with Sabre. To say you only go by that particular horse and not look at the breed is profoundly ignorant. Horses are breed to do different things. Give me a good Arab and you get on a quarter horse with the same training and let’s do some endurance riding. I will be waiting for you in the restaurant for you. I will have my desert done before you show up.
@@timandersonhorsetraining why don't you address the issue instead of a childish attempt at a put down? You are riding one animal that you are struggling to control and in order to help it you forcibly expose it to 2 other animals you have not control of. How is that a good idea? Just because you survived it does not make it good horsemanship. There are much better ways to help that Arab gain trust and confidence that don't rely on luck or flooding.
@@jeannem6723 I agree that are horses bred for certain characteristics. But the range of characteristics is huge both within a breed and between breeds. Not all Arabs are flighty or pretty. Not all WB are good at dressage. Not all TB are fast. Not all QH are cow-ey. It makes no sense to me to make blanket statements about a vague and general characteristic. To say an Arab is sensitive or flighty with be true of some Arabs and not true of others. I've worked enough of them to know.
I've trained 5 Arabians. All with great brains. But it only takes 1 boarding stable to ruin your horse by not feeding them or physically harming them. Also went on a trail ride person stopped for food. I said we need to get it to go. 102 degrees outside. My horse never was safe to trailer again. Ruined by an incompetent person who had control of trailer. She ran out backwards to get out of trailer from then on. How hot was the trailer that day. People are stupid towards horses
He's also a good example of why horses should not be "protected" ... the more they see and do the calmer they are.
I completely agree. I have always tried to expose my horses to everything. Most people are so timid that they cause the horse to get tense. I used to ride a friend's Appaloosa when I was horseless. I never had any issues with that horse being skittish. Later I when I got a horse I would ride with the owner and the Appaloosa. There would be something up ahead. I would hear her say, oh no. She would get tense and the horse would start freaking out and she would take us on a different route. Same horse. Different rider. Horses want a confident rider. It builds their own confidence. The work Tim did with Saber shows how well that works. There is nothing wrong with challenging your animal. It promotes growth and they are happier once they become more confident. I don't understand why anyone would want their animal to be stuck in a terrified mindset when there are ways to increase confidence.
Reason why an off-track Thoroughbred is great for their blasé attitude towards things that spook other horses. They have seen it all at the track, machinery, odd footing, other horses, flapping tarps, etc. Got one who showed the way to a lot of warmbloods at a show, WBs refused to cross a small ditch, Tbred calmly walked over it and the others followed.
@@susantunbridge4612 But they haven't seen COWS! A friend got an OTTB stallion and that horse was TERRIFIED of cows for a month or two. The mares in his band, being ranch raised, were calm and he slowly realized that cows were not a threat.
I have found and observed that most people who have denigrated Arabians horses aren't smart enough to keep ahead of them mentally in their training. They are not deadheads or unreasonable. They want to understand and do the right thing. Bond with their people. And they are not a breed you can bully around. They like to be asked, not treated harshly.
I agree completely . Great job, Tim and Robert ! You can tell such a difference from Sabre's first video to the last one!
Absolutely right, well said!
Perfectly said. The rider has to be smarter than the Arabian they are on. Too many people cant understand that. The most bombproof horses I have ever seen have been Arabians.
I agreee 1000% !@@OnceUponaTimeline
They are, or should be, the most domesticated of horses. Only a few (human) generations ago, they lived alongside the Bedouin having a status considerably above that of livestock. Favourites - mares in particular - would hang around the women's tented quarters, give birth in their presence and even enter the tents occasionally.
After teaching my arab to back up twice by getting off after the first few steps and praising him, he would backup all over the place when he thought it was time to quit. You need a good sense of humor because they are thinking and learn very fast.
LOL. I love the “poor widdle horsey” comments from people who learned everything they know about horses from watching Heartland and Disney movies.
They are the ones with the fruit loops, not the Arabs.
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LOL - there are a lot of 'Armchair trainers' out there. Put them in a round pen with a sour-minded horse and see how long they last.
Sabre's training program matched what the owner wanted. This was a sheltered, stabled stallion, from a single-track goal of breeding. This was not a request for show ring perfection, but for trails with possible wild animal interactions. Tim acclimated the horse to the outside world, gave the horse confidence, and the skills to read the human. Pear Tree Ranch did the same thing to a gelding that spooked, over-reacted, and did not have the skills to walk out of & think through his panic. Acclimate the horse, provide physical skills, and most important - read the situation via the human's reaction. Per the video of the owners ride, Sabre looks safe, happy, and is going to grow into his new job. What a lucky horse. (Sorry, Tim, that you have to defend your program.)
Agree that it is sad some keyboard warriors have to get mixed up into what is obviously a success story. Sabre has a great mind and you can see Tim work with that, understand the horse, and as you said grow him. From getting him in December and then now what a difference. Sabre looks happy and engaged. What more can you ask for.
my favorite horse was an arabian. smart, fast, willing, curious, learned extremely quickly, not at all flighty, loved to go out and explore with me. pretty much a perfect horse. it's sad to see people knocking the whole breed.
Totally agree!!!
Absolutely. My second favorite horse of all time (after my childhood POA!) was an Arabian mare, half Egyptian and half Polish. She was very reserved but anyone could ride her from the smallest child to the most experienced adult and she would tailor her actions to their needs. She was a real gem. Not a bit flighty or reactive, but you had to be respectful of her or she'd just walk away.
I was privileged to know 2 old Arabian stallions that were kid safe and dead broke. One was ridden and shown by a seven year old girl. They were exceptional examples of the breed. I'd never try training a horse like that, but they exist.
You trained him beautifully. People on the internet are ridiculous in their comments. The person that made that comment probably has a stick horse they ride around their parents basement. Love your channel and tips. I have used so many of your tips on my own horses and it has made them better at working under saddle and made me a better horse owner.
Lol on the stick horse!
I have to admit, I was afraid of this horse when you first showed him. It was a good learning experience watching you calm his mind.
Me too!! I've learned so much about Arabians through Sabre's training.
My very first horse 50 years ago was a green Arabian. I think God took mercy on us both as we both survived our mutual greeness, lol. I don't know how many times I came out of the saddle, but at age of 12 I would say with a 100% certainty, I bounced much better than I do now. He did teach me how to keep my seat and so much more.
I still have a soft spot for the breed and I think fondly of the many adventures I had with that lovely horse in my childhood, but in all honesty, I no longer like to ride the hot ones...I have moved on to gaited trail horses, lots of zoom (when asked for), but less drama. Well done with Sabre
Sabre is a really beautiful Arab, awesome to see him become a confident riding partner!
Sabre is just such a nice horse, and I am glad his present owner got him! You have really taken the time to give Sabre a super education!! I have always respected all horse breeds...each has spectacular in-born characteristics and a good trainer can successfully bring out the good!
Decades ago I owned 3 Arabians. Before I bought him, my stallion Bataan had stood at stud at the Kellogg Arabian Ranch. There he was trained by Fred Cahill, who used horse whisperer methods. Bataan was. very calm, well mannered and adaptable to any situation. The colt we had by Bataan and our Arab mare was also trained by Fred Cahill. The result was the same. Fred even took Batahi into the mountains bear hunting.
Arabs give you back what you give them tenfold.
Kellogg has/had excellent horses!
It seems to me that some people criticise the people who accomplish whay they cannot. Saber is doing great thanks to you! I've owned Arabians for almost forty years and will never own a different breed.❤❤
Such wise words!!
I hope that when Sabre goes home that his owner will do a TH-cam video for the Sabre fans. He was so interesting to watch, in part because of his backstory of not being socialized because he was used as a stud horse. There was an innocence and that he was a blank page to be written on. He has turned out so well, and it could have gone the wrong direction with other methods than you used. - My favorite Sabre video was when you turned him loose with the little cow to see how he would react with the brick of hay. I think you were hoping that he would chase the cow away, but Sabre, at least in the video, wasn't really afraid of the cow, but wanted nothing to do with it. So the little cow, seeing that Sabre wasn't going to chase him, went up to the yummy hay and ate it without interference.
People who call Arabs crazy basically want a walking sofa to ride. Same attitude towards Thoroughbreds, they're not riders, they are passengers, and don't want any trouble or any reason to have to think. Arabs and Tbreds will make you a good rider.
Great job! The best horse i have ever had is my Arabian mare - because she has been trained from the start to think instead of panic. She is the smartest, sweetest, bravest horse i have known so it makes me sad when people automatically assume Arabians are all nutjobs... but i can DEFINITELY understand why they aren't the horse for everyone. And I think you have done a brilliant job highlighting their unique characteristics and demonstrating how to bring out the best in them. Thanks for explaining your process!
Still just love this beautiful boy! ❤❤❤
Terrific to see Sabre's training. Wonderful to see his owner riding. Thanks to all involved
Spectacular horse who needs an owner ,hopefully, as smart as he is!
His owner is who was trail riding him in the pictures.
Proof your program works. Period. People add their own experiences into their judgements of the process (muddying the waters) There is no one that can refute the results on this sweet boy.
I’ve had Arabians for the past 25 years.
It’s been a real pleasure watching your series on Sabre.
Thank you !
I'm sure he enjoyed his stud life but now he's using the brain between his ears instead of his legs. Great transformation and interesting to see how adaptable you are as a trainer.
Oh good heavens, the person who made that comment was just showing how little experience they'd had with real, genuine Arabians.
They actively _want_ to understand the world around them, and are infinitely curious about it, while still maintaining their amazing reactivity. I think it's abuse to NOT encourage them to learn as much as possible, whatever you want, really, and channel that brain power and reactivity into 'useful' things - even party tricks, if that's what floats your boat - rather than just letting them teach themselves mischief and develop stable vices through monotony and frustration. They are _so much_ more than just 'pretty'.
I had an Arab mare and she was the sweetest ever, very fast of course but gentle and smart. When galloping, I could have fallen more than once, hadn't she moved under me and put me back right in the middle of the saddle.
Agree 100 percent. The Arabians I’ve trained have become phenomenal riding partners, but they need exposure. (One was afraid of pheasants popping out of hedges, so I taught her to flush them out. She became an excellent “bird horse”and would tell me when one was nearby.😂) Eventually they figure stuff out and are phenomenal, engaged partners. My favorite trail adventures have been on Arabs. They will go to the ends of the earth for you, but God forbid you mistreat one. They remember! And yet somehow I’m a quarter horse person.🤷🏻♀️
I have worked with many breeds over the years, but my favorites always have been the Arabs. I love their thinking and devotion. But you CANNOT bully them into doing what you want them to do.
Love the idea of teaching the horse to do the job of a dog with game birds!
So very happy for Sabre and his person. You and Robert did such a great job with him. My Arab is busy-minded and opinionated and I'm finding that our times together are much better if we start out with play such as pushing a barrel around or tossing a toy around. He's become much less reactive but will probably always be dramatic at times but that's just part of the Arabian package and part of what makes them special ❤
Thank you for this video. It's a great example of introducing new things and giving the horse space to work through things. The horses in the corral next to him were calm, rider was calm and confident, so he could use them to know it's not scary, since they were just hanging around. No yelling, banging of jugs, tossing dirt for reaction etc. Just a day in the dailly life of a real working horse. Thanks also for recognizing Arabs are thinkers - the brain never gets turned off on them, you just need to learn how to use it to an advantage.
Try a Danish Warmblood combined with a thoroughbred with excellent sire and dam. Well
it took many hours but so worth it.
He could move like a bullet out of a gun but never was viscous. He knew I loved him and expected that love and respect to be reciprocated. It was !!! My heart horse !!!
I have actually trained a few of that cross back when I trained mostly english horses.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge online for free! I have an extremely reactive Lusitano and struggle a lot with him mirroring my anxiety. I started watching your videos today and it encouraged me to try out new strategies with him already. It’s a shame I live in Germany haha, I wish we had more trainers like you over here!
Congratulations on what yee achieved with this lad. I'm a firm believer that horses, like dogs, are happier with a purpose and ultimately fulfilling what they were bred to do. Great to see this horse getting to enjoy life
My Arabian is a champion,[ retired ), reined cow horse champ, exceptional trail horse and exceling as a mounted shooting horse. I can put beginners on him clear up to advanced . They are exceptional and always 10 steps ahead of a trainer whereas quarter horses are only 2! And yes I have quarters to! Oh yea and I’ve beat quarter horses in cutting, reining and ranch versatility events…
I had NO doubt you and Robert would do well by Sabre. Great pics inn the forest!! Envious of the blue skies and short sleeves! That first comment was just plain ignorant and rude, and I for one am glad you did not blur the name. Too bad the person probably won't see it bc they have gone elsewhere to harass someone else!
Great Video and explanation how to train different characters. You and Robert did a great job. And I agree to 100% with lazygardens: the more they see, the calmer they are.
Greetings from Germany
I was an assistant trainer of long distance endurance horses. We had a 3 year old in for a gentle start since his full brother had refused to be ‘broken’ and ended up euthanised. He was a nutcase with our gentle approach. His turning point was when he took it on himself to jump out of his field and run to town. He saw a lot and probably frightened himself silly. After that, he listened to our training and we got him lightly trail riding. He went on to be a good endurance horse. I wish I’d had your videos to learn from back then.
Great video explains the spunky spirited horses
You did a beautiful job wkth Saber, i watched as he started to realize all those things he taught him I saw him transform into a veey nice horse vis ownse will.enjoy. you are a trainer who really cares
Wow I can't believe someone said that. I am amazed at what you teach us I'm so happy you made them own it good for you.😊
I have owned Arabians all of my life. I have also owned and trained multi breeds. I see it as a horse to horse basis.
Good for Sabre! We will need to hear about it if he makes Tevis.
I originally found your videos because of Sabre
I have absolutely loved watching all of your videos.❤Your training style, lots of fabulous information.
Thank you so much
Oh, how you do things is without a doubt a wise course of action. I have seen many Arabs that behave like this. I have seen some that were not and they were the best saddle horses you could wish for! I never knew what the difference was until I watched your videos on Sabre.
Their blood lines have something to do with it , too. I have owned 6 Arabians over many years and almost all of them have been from the Polish bloodlines. They have been overall calmer and moree sensible. The one I have now is Egyptian on his sire line (Morafic, Egyptian Prince Thee Minstrel, and Thee Desperado) and he is the "hottest "horse , most reactive one i've had, but there are always exceptions.
I have an Arabian and he is awesome! They have the best minds. Glad you are working with this truly exceptional breed. Yes, they love to think and I like to just train as I do things I want to do. The real training happened on the trail and just doing the basics in the arena. He sometimes thought he didn’t have to participate, but his curiosity always got the better of that, so it is not hard to get them re-engaged in training. They love reward and will work for it. Timing is everything, so the figure out what the goal is and you have to figure out what rewards are their favorite. Mine likes REST. It is amazing the effort he put into the perfect leg yield if he could count on me to keep up my end of bargain and give him rest. He is not afraid of anything, but he would like to make you believe otherwise. He loves reward for being brave. So reward them when they are not spooking. If he is standing calmly I reward him even if there is no obvious challenge present. If we walk by something that he is not scared of and nothing happens, I reward him because he certainly could have gone the other way and acted scared based on my experience with my first horse. It just shows them what you want overall and they are always looking for ways to please you. Hopefully that made sense.
Lovely to see the turnaround with Sabre, all he needed was someone with patience to understand his fears and work through them and so nice to see an owner spend the time and money to help their horse.
Gelding him and letting him get past the testosterone poisoning helped as well.
Hes absolutely beautiful!
Great job! Confidence before discipline. I had a quarab and he was amazing my kids did all 5 events on him and he was running barrels into his 30's. You always had to wait on him to understand things. Never could hammer on him. He didnt want to back up so we had to figure out how his brain was working and approach it different then any other horse we have had. He was so good for the kids! Most people are not smart enough to train Arabians. 😅
Awesome video 👏 thanks for sharing Sabre's journey ❤ I see too many amateur owners that are well meaning, but unfortunately train these kinds of horses the wrong way. Most of the time the horse is smarter than their human, and it turns into disaster 😢 thanks for sharing all your good wisdom! Too many dressage horses can't leave the ring or blow up in the ring because they don't get started with this kind of foundation. Broke is broke no matter breed or discipline. Love your channel!!
Tim - I came across your videos with Sabre and was completely hooked. I so enjoy and respect the way you trained this young untrained Arab to reach his potential to be an enjoyable riding partner for his owner. (Sabre is a double to my Arab I owned MANY years ago as a teenager. The same busy brain activity and reactions - I've been there!) Your different training methods and mental/psychology approach to the breed difference between Arabs versus QHs is CRITICAL to their successful POSITIVE training. Owners need to understand that selecting the right breed and horse temperament (gelding vs mare) is important to a successful partnership to enjoy their riding goals.
I simply exposed my Arab the way I had ridden my ponies so maybe I was fearless - but it was about exposure and gaining confidence and trust. I was always very observant to get him mentally back to me. He became an incredible fearless trail horse who LOVED to swim. Cows, dogs, mean goose hanging off his tail, dirt bikes - nothing phased him. I rode him hunt seat and he enjoyed hunter paces and jumping even if we were a bit too fast and he would have preferred more mileage. I owned him for 27 years and lost him at age 30 - RIP Sundance.
I had a Quarter Horse mare who had a lot of TB in her, she was stall raised, cold backed and spooky like Saber. My Dad helped me with her, and I was able to do a lot with her in the 30 years I had her. Some trail riding, a few shows and a parade and years of riding around the neighborhood. She didn't mind normal suburban traffic, and got used to traffic, and the noise of an Army Base. A spooky horse can be taught to stand still, instead of jumping out of their skin. Thanks for the great videos!
He is beautiful! I love all my Arabians. They are the best horses. Training is the key.
Really really a beautiful horse ♥
I own three Arabs, and I trained them all myself. I take pieces of information from multiple different trainers and mesh it to work with Arabs. Tim, you are dead on about them needing their mind busied. Otherwise, they will busy the rider's time.
This kind of training is what makes the Arabian so versatile. It is excellent for desensitizing it to wildlife, sudden loud noises, and being asked to give.
I have really enjoyed watching the videos of you working with Sabre. I don't have an Arabian but I have a Morgan/QH whom is very smart and high energy. I could relate when you said you can never wear them out, you need to give them something to focus on. I have experienced trainers at clinics and lessons that just didn't know what to do with her because they are more used to Quarter horses and think you can just wear a horse down.
You would think that Rob was super-glued into that saddle!😂
It shows that different breeds require a different strategy to train. They have a brain, especially Arabians. Super super smart, but super sweet aswell. I had a 7/8th Arab gelding from 3.5years old. The 1st ride, while test riding him, was in an arena, where a 3yr old boy would drive remote control cars in and out through the trees onto it. He stopped, looked with ears pricked, then continued to walk on. There wasn't one time during that ride I didn't feel uneasy or unsafe on him. I am used to big 17 hand off the track t/breds, where they see grass, open area and just start snorting then bolt off. Only once did he bolt on me, on a bridlepath, they had a gasline on it, and it released the buildup of gas, he bolted and I bailed off the side as I already had lost a stirrup. I sold him at 7years old as I wanted to do eventing again and wanted a bigger horse to do it on. Ended up with a disaster horse and gave up riding altogether.
Bubby horses ,AKA, baby sitters.. are valuable the first few rides..my Morgan mare has a clam demeanour for other horses she doesn’t know.
The best horse I ever rode was a retired cross-country competition Arabian named Sabre.
Oh so nice to see Saber again I wondered how he turned out thanks for posting❤❤❤
I do have a question and hopefully won't get flamed for it. I wonder if Arabians are actually used for moving cows around...I mean, I get the logic - you want the horse to know what a cow is, see how it moves, etc, so it doesn't get spooked or hurt. But I am asking about the versatility of the breed in general. I figure this group is a bunch of horse folks so I might get a more informed answer here rather than doing a Google search. What do folks use Arabians for other than showing them? Honestly curious because I think they're gorgeous and don't get credit for being as good a horse as they are.
Yes, they do work cows on ranches. They do Reined cow horse, reining, cutting, trail, cutting, etc etc. there is no other breed that can do as many disciplines as as Arabians. It is the only breed that allows kids to show stallions. We have one in our barn who is owned and shown by a 16 year old. My horse’s sire was shown by an 8 year old and he won at a national show.
@@annamcgeagh8104 Thank you for the information! My neighbor had one for a while and I always was entranced by the breed.
@@patperrier4599 you are very welcome. I love all horses, but my Arabs have been absolutely the best. My first one got me hooked when I knew nothing about them. She jumped, dressage, western pleasure , trail, hunt seat and then I could take her out on the trail and into the mountains. She took lead line kids around the pen and walk trotters. She was absolutely amazing. I had her for 19 years of her 29. I miss her every day. I have another now that is so much like her. I love him to pieces.
Competitive endurance riding. Long distances. Because of their stamina.
The Arab horse will do anything any other horse does, restricted only by its physical size and make-up. Given half a chance, it must be one of the most versatile horses there is.
My Arab mare was broken to harness, used for Riding for the Disabled AND we competed at a high level in Endurance. A friend registered her with British Dressage and they got a few points. As she and I aged, and my hip started bothering me when I rode, I did a lot of liberty work with her and trained her to do 'tricks'. When my hip was treated successfully, and I was back to riding again, oh what fun we had at times... if she had been human, she would have been one of the greatest dramatic actresses of her generation.
"You will never meet a hater doing better than you!" David Goggins; listen to these powerful words immortalised in song by Akira the Don.
Keep up the great work, Tim; lucky Sabre 🤩
they are highly intelligent and willing learners
Arabs don't have to be crazy, but their sensitive nature, intelligence and swift reactions to perceived danger makes them very easy to ruin. Also, in my experience, Egyptian Arabians bred in the US seem to be much more reactive and anxious compared to the Polish Arabians bred in the US and especially in Europe.
I'm really glad to see Sabre growing into himself so well with you, Tim. He is still a bit tentative but his confidence and courage are way up and that's just wonderful! I hope whoever ends up with him is worthy of such a beautiful fellow.
I agree ! I have had Polish bloodlines and now have an egyptian . The Polish have been calmer and less reactive.
@@marylynnblack9258 Thanks so much for weighing in. :)
I remember when riding a horse along a less used road and going by a pasture full of Holstein cows. The closer I got the herd of cows moved closer to the road and freaked out the horse. You never know what will set the horse off.
Thanks so much for sharing this, Arabs are truly great horses!
Thank you. I really like this trail ride videos.
I love Sabers videos
Actually ALL of your videos
Thank you Sir
That was one of the most idiotic comments I've ever heard, I have been riding Arabians and training them my whole life.( I am 60) the more you can expose them without walking on egg shells the better of you are, putting a horse in with a cow is NOT abuse, you did that perfect he was able to get away if he wanted to while realizing that they weren't that scary, I enjoyed watching you work with him, I'm always trying to learn new ideas on things that will work,
I laughed out loud when I saw the abuse comment!
Awesome
I love the Arab brain. I sure do miss my Arab. My Morgan kind of has that kind of brain.
They are really smart
Used to have Arabians -showed a couple of stallions and about four mares. Believe me they are different, there’s a most wonderful creatures on the face of this planet and they are highly intelligent of course there are individuals like in all breeds There are exceptions. One thing I know is certain, every cowboy has a problem with an Arab. I have never seen one yet that didn’t. You cannot work with him like you work with a ordinary ranch horse. they will make great ranch horses, cutting horses roping horses trail horses you name it. But they do not want to be dominated. Working with them is extremely different than working with other horses.
I've trained 5 Arabians. All with great brains. But it only takes 1 boarding stable to ruin your horse by not feeding them or physically harming them. Also went on a trail ride person stopped for food. I said we need to get it to go. 102 degrees outside. My horse never was safe to trailer again. Ruined by an incompetent person who had control of trailer. She ran out backwards to get out of trailer from then on. How hot was the trailer that day. People are stupid towards horses
That's sad! So many horses have been ruined by people who claim to know what they're doing. The internet has made so many "experts"😱
Great example of a nice Arab. Smart fella.
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Incredible job! I'm wondering if I can do similar training to my fruit loop dog. :-). Covid pup, isolated his first two years, that is terrified of everything - and now is so sure the world is out to kill him. :-(.
🤣🤣🤣 I have one of those too!! She's so terrified of everything, but it seems more her instinct than isolation. I've used a lot of Tim's methods with training her. I incorporated his ask, tell, demand (I needed it because I'm a softy with animals), and I also got her to stop pulling on her leash by changing directions every time she pulled. Now, she'll walk close and if I say "this way" she knows to stop and look at me because I'm about to go a different direction. Good luck!!!
Arabians are the best. I owned an Egyptian Arabian and I'm not a good rider but my boy was the best horse ever! They all have their own personality like all breeds and Arabians reactions ARE NOT ALL BIG!!! Give this amazing breed a break.
"Fruit loops for brains" is what you get when you take an intelligent, athletic animal and deny them every natural learning experience by confining them in an unnatural setting by themselves. So many Arabians are bred more for a dishier face than anything else. They're often pulled away from their dams as early as possible and raised in stalls as if they're made of fine china. They're kept groomed to perfection so they can be pulled out at any moment to show off for visitors. Their turnout is often into a small arena or other controlled environment where they can finally strut their stuff a little. The more hyped up they are, the better. The stallions tend to lead the most mundane existence alone with their overprotective caretakers. Any injury or scar could end their show career and devalue their owner's investment, so they are not offered much of an opportunity to be a horse. This can be the case with show horses of any breed, but it seems to be the norm for a lot of Arabian owners (or at least it was for a long time).
Over the last 45 years I have bought a lot of Arabians, bred a few of my own and rescued many "crazy Arabs". I've raised, rehabbed and trained a lot of horses of various breeds, but the Arabians stole my heart. The best thing you can do with a "crazy Arab" is turn them out with other experienced horses (not just other sheltered stall babies) and let them learn how to be a real horse instead of a Breyer horse model. They figure things out quickly and get their minds in working order. Expose them to as much as possible. If you do this, they will be as easy or easier to train than any other horses. They are very smart and capable of picking things up very quickly (good or bad).
Hahaha … Totally
It's so goofy to me: you can show someone a border collie doing flyball and a Newfoundland working hard at holding down the couch, and it's pretty easy to get them to understand that two dogs that look so different are happiest doing different things and should get different training to make them good pets.
But then, because horses are all more or less big and brownish, somehow it makes sense to train them all alike...? No?? What on earth??? My horse is a purebred Arabian, Polish/Egyptian and level-headed as the day is long, but at 31 years old he will still jig and jog for miles on the trail once he gets bored.
Did owning an Arabian prepare me for the brain of the average Paso Fino? Oh Heck No, son.
Does training Paso Finos actually prepare you to train mustangs? I've been told the answer is "ahahaha.. no."
Horse breeds are just as unique as dog breeds, and yeah .. they all need sit-stay-walk on leash basics, sure, but the really quick minded ones need different handling. Not that hard to grasp!
You have to train them but NOT cowboy them like buck them out train is different.
He wasn't bucking the horse out. He was riding through the horse's tantrum, and a short one at that. One of my Arabs would do the same thing when she was learning to process not getting her way. I started her as a 9 yo. The previous owners didn't know what to do with her, so she was only halter broke.
It takes a massive amount of patience and creativity to train an Arab. When they are given a job, they learn so much faster.
@@MightyMoran just a commit aboutArabian horses in general. You don’t cowboy an Arabian horses .
Arabs, in the last few decades, seem to have been almost bred to be "Fruit Loops", especially the show/halter animals. I love the breed in general. Heck, I like all horse breeds. But some breeders have to make their horses something they're not. My Arab mare, definitely a western type, with champion bloodlines, and professional training, was as reasonable as an intelligent horse could be. But then, that was 30 years ago.
You shove an Arab in a stall without a job, and they are like a four year old child at a restaurant. Useless.
Well Arabs are (sometimes) fruitless hahaha. I have owned several- mostly very green. My favorite was a gelding that had been ridden 4 times. He spooked at literally everything, but after lots of miles and different experiences the only thing he shied at was the UPS truck lol. Never got over that big dark thing coming at him
I think the calves were not a good choice. When you decide to challenge a worried horse you want to have control over the size and timing of the challenge. If it is too big a challenge you need to be able to reduce the challenge and if it is not enough you want to be able to increase the challenge moment to moment. The same with presenting and removing the challenge. With the calves you have almost no control to adjust the size and timing of the challenge. The calves will behave as they choose to behave irrespective what works best for the horse.
I also don't think making blanket assessments of horses based on breed is rarely accurate or helpful - including Arabs. I find there is as big a difference in the nature of a horse within a breed as there is between breeds.
You haven't worked with cows very much.
Interesting how you say that the cows were too much and that giving characteristics about a breed are inaccurate. Everything Tim said was shown to be true and has worked extremely well with Sabre. To say you only go by that particular horse and not look at the breed is profoundly ignorant. Horses are breed to do different things. Give me a good Arab and you get on a quarter horse with the same training and let’s do some endurance riding. I will be waiting for you in the restaurant for you. I will have my desert done before you show up.
@@timandersonhorsetraining why don't you address the issue instead of a childish attempt at a put down?
You are riding one animal that you are struggling to control and in order to help it you forcibly expose it to 2 other animals you have not control of. How is that a good idea? Just because you survived it does not make it good horsemanship. There are much better ways to help that Arab gain trust and confidence that don't rely on luck or flooding.
Psych 101, yes, breeds do have characteristics, that's things that they were bred to be.
@@jeannem6723 I agree that are horses bred for certain characteristics. But the range of characteristics is huge both within a breed and between breeds. Not all Arabs are flighty or pretty. Not all WB are good at dressage. Not all TB are fast. Not all QH are cow-ey. It makes no sense to me to make blanket statements about a vague and general characteristic. To say an Arab is sensitive or flighty with be true of some Arabs and not true of others. I've worked enough of them to know.
The problem is that he's smarter than you!
I've trained 5 Arabians. All with great brains. But it only takes 1 boarding stable to ruin your horse by not feeding them or physically harming them. Also went on a trail ride person stopped for food. I said we need to get it to go. 102 degrees outside. My horse never was safe to trailer again. Ruined by an incompetent person who had control of trailer. She ran out backwards to get out of trailer from then on. How hot was the trailer that day. People are stupid towards horses