One would think that dr. White being an intellectual may not be able to preach but this was not only doctrinally sound but presented in a very understandable manner. Amazing job of providing clarity 2 this subject.
Before his academic career, he served for several years as a chaplain in a hospital. I'm a fan of his academic work, but in my opinion his best book is on grief, I highly recommend it.
Dr. White has an ability to speak the right words to my mind. His command of the English language is top notch. God truly has blessed him with a beautiful intellect for the Body of Christ.
This sermon is pure awesomeness and it really gets profound around the 40:00 mark ! We can trust Gods Sovereignty in *all* things - especially our grief/suffering/trials/depression
Dr. John Macarthur, Dr. James White, RC Sproul , Dr. John Piper, Justin Peters, Paul Washer,Todd Friel and a lots more...We Christians should hear, listen and stand for their preachings.
The Truth of God’s Holy Word is so beautiful. It is such a blessing to be reminded that God is in complete control even when we go through trials. As a young man I have been through few trials but when more come along may I be reminded that it is for my good as Romans 8:28 says.
Listening to you is helping me to realise that my redeemed contemplative thinking is quite simply … common sense. How could anyone not be a Christian? Thanks again sir - you help me so much to be more confident about my faith.
Being raised Armenian, and having heard countless sermons titled as this one. This is the first to teach truth so that as I may learn something applicable to my life.
I just got done watching this and I have to say this is really powerful, I'm 34 and just to think of a sister in Christ dying so sudden is very sobering indeed. I notice it's been a year since this happened but to all those who grieve her loss remember for those of of who are born again this is not good bye but merely I'll see you later.
😭🙌 42:14 of this video. I just commented on another sermon of theirs of death and loss...and literally commented something similar to this. "It wasn't by accident". Gah I'm trying not to cry at work. Such a powerful sermon, and totally lost it again at this exact point in the sermon. Times get hard, but just ad the gold is put through the refining, we are being refined by God through our struggles, because after going through that whole process...we come out the beautiful gold that God always knew was there but just needed His help to come out of it shining brightly for Him. Gah my emotions every time I think of God's love and grace in tough times😭🙏🙌 Thank you Father
Wonderful. Dr. White is my hero, and often comes off as aggravated, angry. For him to understand that some of us go through that furnace with a much higher heat is encouraging. He has a tough job, on the one hand show the weakness of the modern Church, and simultaneously show that Christ DOES LOVE HIS ELECT
I've very glad that sermons such as this, built on a Biblical foundation and refined by experience, are available. It is an often typed phrase but sincerely "Thanks for posting this".
Thank you so much for this. I, too, am going through a family health crisis that seems to have no resolution, no end. I am so sorry for the loss of Sara as well. I don't know this family. But my heart broke when I heard the story, especially for her children left behind.
We are saved as The Lord freely gives us, while still dead in our sin and trespasses, He gives us the gift of His eternal Spirit causing our Spirit to come alive and our eyes to be opened to the truth, we repent of our sin, and selfishness and faith and Love take the place of our once burdened souls...
Good speak, and fitting message to all who have seen our loved ones depart to be with The Lord, although I do not know you, and your sister Sara or her family, I am in the same love that you are in, that of our savoir Jesus Christ. We have a hope, that the rest of the world is without, and I trust that Our God is true, you will all see Sara again. On to Glory. Bless His Holy Name
I think he forgot his theme. I came for comfory6and help but while it did in some way and it was encouraging but it wasn't what I needed although it did give me hope so thank you for that
I think you need to listen again and I say that, friend, as an encouragement, not an insult. Please pray, then listen again. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding. Grace and peace to you.
To this day I do not understand why people think it's polite to bring their toddlers into service to be a distraction from the message. The kids don't know any better, but you'd think the parents would understand that after the 5th time they try to shush them that we built cry rooms for a reason.
Apologia Church is a Family integrated church. They do not offer Childcare, and accept the consequences of such, that they will have to contend with children up and moving about sometimes during a longer sermon
MLP ShadyOakMinistries the biblical model is family-integrated church, not Sunday school. Those children need the preaching as much as you do. Instead of criticizing parents, why not just act like an adult and pay attention? Or extend some grace to them? Jesus said to let the children come to him.
So the counter argument against nonsense that goes back to the 70's is to insinuate because kids are being taught separate from the adults that we're keeping kids from Jesus? I'll write that one down. Right next to the bible verses that model infants in church gatherings. It's not like they had any choice in the matter. For goodness sake, I just want to learn God's word. If things aren't going to be done decently and in order, (1 Corinthians 14), then what's the point of gathering if all we're going to take away is shrieking and fragments of things I might need to hear and remember in my walk with God. Or is having another reason to call your church superior to others that important? I wanted to listen to a recorded message and noted interruptions. Stop biting other sheep and being apart of the problem.
Thank you MLP and AMEN. As for the ones criticizing his statement I think there needs to be a little common sense understanding to the difference between a young kid (oh no i'm blaspheming children!! really lady?) and a cry baby! That poor baby has no idea where they are at, why Mommy won't make it stop, or what that scary bald man is talking about. Not one of us can remember anything from our diaper days. So grow up
I was told by an elder in my church that some of the reason forgiveness isn’t taught and discussed is that mature Christians just always do it. In other words, Christians give a few moments of intellectual consent to the nice sermon illustration but don’t really practice it or don’t let God have access to them in order to be made an example of for others.
WHO was the book of Revelation (REALLY) written for? Does the Scriptures actually tell us? Revelation 1:4 “YAHchanan (John) to the seven congregation that are in Asia:…”Rev. 1:11.. Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven congregation: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardus and to Philadephia and to Laodicia.” Not only do we know these cities from ancient secular history, but we are even aware that the order in which they appear in Revelation follows as a known Roman postal route. These seven congregations were real local congregations undergoing GREAT TRIBULATION in the FIRST CENTURY the great tribulation and unimaginable suffering… Rev. 1:9 “I, YAHchanan (John,) your brother and fellow partaker IN THE TRIBULATION..…” In this book of Revelation we discern a martyr theme quite in keeping with what we know about their “tribulation” and their need of “perseverance” (Rev. 2:9-10, 3:9-10, 6:9-11, 11:7-8, 11-13, 18, 12:10, 13:10, 14:11-13, 12:101013:101018:20, 24, 19:2, 20:4, 6) 18:20 these people are going grievously and very hard times. For instance, later in chapter 6 we learn of Father YAHweh’s special blessings upon those who have actually been slain for their faith (Rev. 6:9-11). The apostle YAHchanan ( John ) is MINISTERING to them - giving them HOPE about what must "SHORTLY TAKE PLACE" ( in their lifetime ), and he expects them to understand and act upon his directives, for he tells them that the “TIME IS NEAR”…( not 1900 plus years later ) Most of us have never even stopped for a minute to examine (for ourselves) the very THEME of this letter called “Revelation”. For instance, in the very first verse of the first chapter YAHchanan plainly states WHO his actual audience is (HIS bond servants), and then proceeds to tell THEM (HIS bond servants of whom he is a fellow-partaker in THE GREAT TRIBULATION with) that his letter is about things “WHICH MUST SHORTLY TAKE PLACE”. To make this point even clearer, in 1:3 we see YAHchanan unmistakably saying to the people in those seven congregations that the VERY REASON they are to “heed the things which are written in it” is because “THE TIME IS NEAR”. QUESTION: Why would YAHchanan boldly say that the very PURPOSE of his letter was about things that are very NEAR to his actual AUDIENCE, if they absolutely were NOT near? We have never been challenged by the religious crowd to even ASK that question. We have never been asked to imagine those poor, persecuted called out believers in those seven (actual) congregations sitting in candle light, reading that letter out loud. Once again, here’s just another one of the MANY examples where we have (literally) been trained to mentally REMOVE the ORIGINAL AUDIENCE (the original recipients) and then INSERT ourselves in their place. THAT’S CRAZY!!!!!! Can we not see ( unless Spirit Holy opens our eyes ( MattithYAH 11:25-30 ) how absolutely crazy and exegetic-ally irresponsible that actually is to just IGNORE this literary fact? We MUST learn to read the Scriptures with AUDIENCE RELEVANCE in mind if we want to know the TRUTH that will MAKE us FREE from this deceived world many religions. Rev. 12:9 We really can not see the father of lies and his many religions that are based on the TRADITIONS of evil men and what we have allowed these liars to pond off on us as what they call the truth. Shame on us for not listening to YAHshua's words " SEARCH the Scriptures for they testified about Him " Also remember the instruction of the apostle Saul that was call on the road to Damascus AFTER RESURRECTION he said "Study to show yourself APPROVED to Father YAHweh so you will not be ashamed. NO ONE can STUDY the Scriptures for you. YOU MUST do that for yourself! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In chapters 2 and 3 YAHchanan addresses short letters to each of the congregations of the called out ones. In those letters we discover numerous historical, geographical, political, cultural, and religious allusions fitting perfectly with what we actually know of these regions. These are real people of the first century, those called out ones in real first century congregations. 1. YAHchanan is writing to seven actual congregations in DIRE circumstances. 2. He intends for them to understand what is being written, revealed, and shown... 3. They are to HEAR and to HEED, which would require that they understand… 4. YAHchanan’s letter is about things “which must SHORTLY take place” (temporal nearness)… Again, the direct (physical) recipients of this letter called “Revelation” are REAL people who are suffering VERY REAL grievous “tribulation.” QUESTION: Is YAHchanan taunting them by using familiar terms speaking of temporal nearness? To These poor men and women who are under such trials?!?! Surely not! He is MINISTERING to them - giving them HOPE about what must "shortly take place" (in THEIR lifetime)... and he expects them to understand and act upon his directives, for he tells them that the “time is near”… To seal up, or not to seal up… The “time” in the book of Daniel was NOT near (Dan. 12:4), but the “time” in Rev 22:10 WAS, NEAR, If Revelation was NOT to be sealed because “THE TIME IS NEAR”, but Daniyl 22:10 the message was to be sealed because it was for “many days” and the “time of the end” (Daniel 10:14, 12:4,9), then “many” days are only 500 years, and if that is true, how can "at hand" or “the 10:14 is near” be for 1900 plus years away? Not only have we never asked ourselves that question, but we have never even THOUGHT about this literary inconsistency. Surely YAHchanan is not telling these poor persecuted believers in the Resurrected Hebrew Messiah that the “time is near and you must heed that which I’m writing, and that Father YAHweh is concerned with your persecution - BUT the things I am telling you that are near to you and shortly to come are (actually) NOT really near to you and (actually) NOT shortly to come but are (really and actually) not going to take place until 1900 plus-some years from now” ! "But hey, thanks for letting us USE your DESPERATE HOPE and your DIRE SITUATION as a STORY PROP for the REAL people (1900 plus years from now) that this letter is (actually) written TO and for." ?????????? For years we have been taught to say, "YAHshua and the apostles couldn't POSSIBLY have really MEANT what they clearly and plainly SAID (directly) to their first-century audience." We must understand, some of us for the first time, that YAHshua and the apostles stood and looked their first-century audience in the EYES and told THEM all the things they did. And in the case of Revelation it was a letter of course...( we need to remember what YAHshua said in MattithYAH 16:28 " Some standing here will not taste death until you see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom. " ) Now was the Son of Father YAHweh misleading His followers? Remember by your words you are justified and by your words you are condemned. I say YAHshua KEEP His WORD! We have looked at the book of Revelation and said, "Surely this book wasn't written for who it actually SAYS it was written to. Surely these words are about the end of the WORLD in OUR future. They couldn't POSSIBLY be metaphorical and symbolic in nature having to do with some first-century regional event or the end of an "age" (the Mosaic age)!" And so, WE started building our OWN "twisted views", all based on the arrogance just displayed... Again, we must ask ourselves… Is this letter “to the seven congregations” an actual first-century-audience-specific letter TO those actual seven congregations, or was YAHweh and His Son simply USING all those poor people as HUMAN STORY-TELLING PROPS (or "object lessons) for a story that is not even ABOUT them - but actually written for some folks over 1900 plus years later? It IS either one or the other.It is ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL (B. R. U. T. A. L.) and completely THOUGHTLESS what today's end-times future-apocalypse "theologians" ( lying preachers ) are expecting us to believe about those poor people in those seven congregations who were sitting around reading that letter (which was ACTUALLY ADDRESSED to THEM)!
Semper Reformanda Have you not read the passages like.. "We are being conformed into the image of His Son." (Which is what came to mind when he said it..) And also.. "He who began a good work in you will finish it, until the day of the Lord." Which means he will not stop taking those impurities out, until it is completed.
I wish I could live in James White's watch glasses or something. I could listen to this man all day everyday of my life. You wouldn't believe how confused some of the people of the muslim faith are about him. They actually think he's a racist. Really, check it out at muslimbychoice here on TH-cam. The first one I caught I didn't realize it was even a negative message about James White until the end when it cut away from him. Like everything he said was completely fine and then this person started saying how prejudiced it was and I was completely shocked. Talk about entitlement. These individuals seem to have this attitude that if you say anything at all about anyone who is black then you are a complete bigot. it's sad, and destructive behavior
I once had the temerity to be having a bad day in front of a black man. He used his belief that I was therefore a bigot and he felt justified therefore to steal from my boss.
Advice for hurting christians: Stop listening to people who are pretending to know things they do not know and go see an actual therapist who has been trained to help people through hurtful experiences.
A humanist therapist cannot address "spiritual matters" because spirits apparently do not exist. Spirits are superstition from times when people sacrificed other humans to the gods because of failed crops. You have zero evidence that your invisible "spirit" or your imagined god exist.
Nicholas Flamel Oh I see, you're a mocking unbeliever. No evidence ever suffices for people like you. Not that there isn't any, there's plenty, but not for a stubborn, blind, self worshipper like yourself.
I mock people who are LIARS, who pretend to know things they do not know. You have shown ZERO evidence for your god existing, so it is dishonest for you to say that "No amount of evidence will suffice". How would you know? You have provided NONE. Put your money where your dishonest mouth is and show us the apparently abundant evidence that only you seem to be aware of... We will all sit back and watch you FAIL.... because you are a FRAUD...
Nope, no hate at all. That is just YOU projecting things onto me that are not true. I enjoy pointing it out when people are LYING and PRETENDING to know things they do not know. I consider it a public service. YOU are pretending to know things about me that you do not know.
I like Doctor White the way he speaks and explain the word when he preach and dabate
Thank you, this blesses my heart so much.
I love the fact that I can hear little ones in the background, bring them up in the gospel of Jesus Christ, Amen
Excellent observation! The Kingdom is as such as these!
I think the same thing when I hear what sounds like the same couple of babes shouting for the Lord!! Lol
I truly needed to hear this today. I am in a trial right now that is testing me. Please keep me in prayer, and all glory to Christ.
Christos Kurios!!
I hope you read this: when your head finally hits the pillow , reminds yourself 'you can trust in HIS rest"
How are you doing now ?
apologia and dr white are nothing short of fantastic
Amen
LionandtheLamb so true james white and jeff dubin are the best
One would think that dr. White being an intellectual may not be able to preach but this was not only doctrinally sound but presented in a very understandable manner. Amazing job of providing clarity 2 this subject.
Before his academic career, he served for several years as a chaplain in a hospital. I'm a fan of his academic work, but in my opinion his best book is on grief, I highly recommend it.
Dr. White has an ability to speak the right words to my mind. His command of the English language is top notch. God truly has blessed him with a beautiful intellect for the Body of Christ.
This sermon is pure awesomeness and it really gets profound around the 40:00 mark !
We can trust Gods Sovereignty in *all* things - especially our grief/suffering/trials/depression
In Jesus Name, Amen.
What a blessing. Thank you Dr White and Apologia Ministries. ❤️
Dr. John Macarthur, Dr. James White, RC Sproul , Dr. John Piper, Justin Peters, Paul Washer,Todd Friel and a lots more...We Christians should hear, listen and stand for their preachings.
Charles Spurgeon is another good one.
Charles Stanley, Derek prince
David Wilkerson
YES!, and Steven J. Lawson, D.A. Carson, Voddie Baucham, Tim Conway
Pastor Voddie B as well…
The Truth of God’s Holy Word is so beautiful. It is such a blessing to be reminded that God is in complete control even when we go through trials. As a young man I have been through few trials but when more come along may I be reminded that it is for my good as Romans 8:28 says.
Beautiful Dr. White...Thank you for that...📖🌷 God richly Bless you...
Listening to you is helping me to realise that my redeemed contemplative thinking is quite simply … common sense. How could anyone not be a Christian? Thanks again sir - you help me so much to be more confident about my faith.
I love James White's debates and videos in his channel but I truly thank the Lord hearing him preaching. Thanks Apologia! ❤️
Being raised Armenian, and having heard countless sermons titled as this one. This is the first to teach truth so that as I may learn something applicable to my life.
Mr. Sloth it’s arminian not Armenian
@Antonio Gonzalez what an ignorant comment you made...
My God blessed you all and keep you.
I just got done watching this and I have to say this is really powerful, I'm 34 and just to think of a sister in Christ dying so sudden is very sobering indeed. I notice it's been a year since this happened but to all those who grieve her loss remember for those of of who are born again this is not good bye but merely I'll see you later.
😭🙌 42:14 of this video. I just commented on another sermon of theirs of death and loss...and literally commented something similar to this. "It wasn't by accident". Gah I'm trying not to cry at work. Such a powerful sermon, and totally lost it again at this exact point in the sermon. Times get hard, but just ad the gold is put through the refining, we are being refined by God through our struggles, because after going through that whole process...we come out the beautiful gold that God always knew was there but just needed His help to come out of it shining brightly for Him. Gah my emotions every time I think of God's love and grace in tough times😭🙏🙌 Thank you Father
Perfect timing. The Lord Jesus is praised!
I was blessed my this sermon. Thank you apologia church!
Brother, thank so much for this reminder! Thank You Jesus!
Great Sermon, I definitely needed that word. Thank you Dr. White and most of all thank you Jesus!
Wonderful. Dr. White is my hero, and often comes off as aggravated, angry. For him to understand that some of us go through that furnace with a much higher heat is encouraging. He has a tough job, on the one hand show the weakness of the modern Church, and simultaneously show that Christ DOES LOVE HIS ELECT
Amazing sermon
I've very glad that sermons such as this, built on a Biblical foundation and refined by experience, are available. It is an often typed phrase but sincerely "Thanks for posting this".
What a beautiful message! 😢😭😊
Thank you so much for this. I, too, am going through a family health crisis that seems to have no resolution, no end.
I am so sorry for the loss of Sara as well. I don't know this family. But my heart broke when I heard the story, especially for her children left behind.
Thank you for being real, honest & faithful. Godbless
So brilliant and comforting!
Thank you James. I miss seeing you in Indiana!!
We are saved as The Lord freely gives us, while still dead in our sin and trespasses, He gives us the gift of His eternal Spirit causing our Spirit to come alive and our eyes to be opened to the truth, we repent of our sin, and selfishness and faith and Love take the place of our once burdened souls...
What truth Mr White brings forth
I love this, thank you once again Dr White. May the Lord bless and keep you always.
I'm stealing that goldsmith illustration! 😃
It's a good one
What a great sermon; blessed my heart!
Good speak, and fitting message to all who have seen our loved ones depart to be with The Lord, although I do not know you, and your sister Sara or her family, I am in the same love that you are in, that of our savoir Jesus Christ. We have a hope, that the rest of the world is without, and I trust that Our God is true, you will all see Sara again. On to Glory. Bless His Holy Name
8:30 WOOOOOWWWWWWWWW
Great sermon how do I download this on my device.wanna share it.
Wow.....,thanks alot
sorry for your loss a mother off seven children eight counting baby how sad
thank you for that description you use in your sermon about Gold. wow, your message is so powerful.
I think he forgot his theme. I came for comfory6and help but while it did in some way and it was encouraging but it wasn't what I needed although it did give me hope so thank you for that
I think you need to listen again and I say that, friend, as an encouragement, not an insult. Please pray, then listen again. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding. Grace and peace to you.
Thankyou.
What is james' dad's name?
To this day I do not understand why people think it's polite to bring their toddlers into service to be a distraction from the message. The kids don't know any better, but you'd think the parents would understand that after the 5th time they try to shush them that we built cry rooms for a reason.
Apologia Church is a Family integrated church. They do not offer Childcare, and accept the consequences of such, that they will have to contend with children up and moving about sometimes during a longer sermon
MLP ShadyOakMinistries the biblical model is family-integrated church, not Sunday school. Those children need the preaching as much as you do. Instead of criticizing parents, why not just act like an adult and pay attention? Or extend some grace to them? Jesus said to let the children come to him.
So the counter argument against nonsense that goes back to the 70's is to insinuate because kids are being taught separate from the adults that we're keeping kids from Jesus? I'll write that one down. Right next to the bible verses that model infants in church gatherings. It's not like they had any choice in the matter. For goodness sake, I just want to learn God's word. If things aren't going to be done decently and in order, (1 Corinthians 14), then what's the point of gathering if all we're going to take away is shrieking and fragments of things I might need to hear and remember in my walk with God. Or is having another reason to call your church superior to others that important? I wanted to listen to a recorded message and noted interruptions. Stop biting other sheep and being apart of the problem.
MLP ShadyOakMinistries children know more than you think
Thank you MLP and AMEN. As for the ones criticizing his statement I think there needs to be a little common sense understanding to the difference between a young kid (oh no i'm blaspheming children!! really lady?) and a cry baby! That poor baby has no idea where they are at, why Mommy won't make it stop, or what that scary bald man is talking about. Not one of us can remember anything from our diaper days. So grow up
South central Pennsylvania, there's no place like home!
I was told by an elder in my church that some of the reason forgiveness isn’t taught and discussed is that mature Christians just always do it. In other words, Christians give a few moments of intellectual consent to the nice sermon illustration but don’t really practice it or don’t let God have access to them in order to be made an example of for others.
Have you ever concerned reading the book of Revelation with Audience Relevance in mind?
Pastor White , why does Jef smoke a cigar ?
WHO was the book of Revelation (REALLY) written for?
Does the Scriptures actually tell us?
Revelation 1:4 “YAHchanan (John) to the seven congregation that are in Asia:…”Rev. 1:11..
Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven congregation: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardus and to Philadephia and to Laodicia.”
Not only do we know these cities from ancient secular history, but we are even aware that the order in which they appear in Revelation follows as a known Roman postal route.
These seven congregations were real local congregations undergoing GREAT TRIBULATION in the FIRST CENTURY the great tribulation and unimaginable suffering…
Rev. 1:9 “I, YAHchanan (John,) your brother and fellow partaker IN THE TRIBULATION..…” In this book of Revelation we discern a martyr theme quite in keeping with what we know about their “tribulation” and their need of “perseverance” (Rev. 2:9-10, 3:9-10, 6:9-11, 11:7-8, 11-13, 18, 12:10, 13:10, 14:11-13, 12:101013:101018:20, 24, 19:2, 20:4, 6) 18:20 these people are going grievously and very hard times. For instance, later in chapter 6 we learn of Father YAHweh’s special blessings upon those who have actually been slain for their faith (Rev. 6:9-11).
The apostle YAHchanan ( John ) is MINISTERING to them - giving them HOPE about what must "SHORTLY TAKE PLACE" ( in their lifetime ), and he expects them to understand and act upon his directives, for he tells them that the “TIME IS NEAR”…( not 1900 plus years later )
Most of us have never even stopped for a minute to examine (for ourselves) the very THEME of this letter called “Revelation”. For instance, in the very first verse of the first chapter YAHchanan plainly states WHO his actual audience is (HIS bond servants), and then proceeds to tell THEM (HIS bond servants of whom he is a fellow-partaker in THE GREAT TRIBULATION with) that his letter is about things “WHICH MUST SHORTLY TAKE PLACE”.
To make this point even clearer, in 1:3 we see YAHchanan unmistakably saying to the people in those seven congregations that the VERY REASON they are to “heed the things which are written in it” is because “THE TIME IS NEAR”.
QUESTION: Why would YAHchanan boldly say that the very PURPOSE of his letter was about things that are very NEAR to his actual AUDIENCE, if they absolutely were NOT near? We have never been challenged by the religious crowd to even ASK that question. We have never been asked to imagine those poor, persecuted called out believers in those seven (actual) congregations sitting in candle light, reading that letter out loud.
Once again, here’s just another one of the MANY examples where we have (literally) been trained to mentally REMOVE the ORIGINAL AUDIENCE (the original recipients) and then INSERT ourselves in their place. THAT’S CRAZY!!!!!!
Can we not see ( unless Spirit Holy opens our eyes ( MattithYAH 11:25-30 ) how absolutely crazy and exegetic-ally irresponsible that actually is to just IGNORE this literary fact? We MUST learn to read the Scriptures with AUDIENCE RELEVANCE in mind if we want to know the TRUTH that will MAKE us FREE from this deceived world many religions. Rev. 12:9
We really can not see the father of lies and his many religions that are based on the TRADITIONS of evil men and what we have allowed these liars to pond off on us as what they call the truth. Shame on us for not listening to YAHshua's words " SEARCH the Scriptures for they testified about Him " Also remember the instruction of the apostle Saul that was call on the road to Damascus AFTER RESURRECTION he said "Study to show yourself APPROVED to Father YAHweh so you will not be ashamed. NO ONE can STUDY the Scriptures for you. YOU MUST do that for yourself! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In chapters 2 and 3 YAHchanan addresses short letters to each of the congregations of the called out ones. In those letters we discover numerous historical, geographical, political, cultural, and religious allusions fitting perfectly with what we actually know of these regions. These are real people of the first century, those called out ones in real first century congregations.
1. YAHchanan is writing to seven actual congregations in DIRE circumstances.
2. He intends for them to understand what is being written, revealed, and shown...
3. They are to HEAR and to HEED, which would require that they understand…
4. YAHchanan’s letter is about things “which must SHORTLY take place” (temporal nearness)…
Again, the direct (physical) recipients of this letter called “Revelation” are REAL people who are suffering VERY REAL grievous “tribulation.”
QUESTION: Is YAHchanan taunting them by using familiar terms speaking of temporal nearness? To These poor men and women who are under such trials?!?!
Surely not!
He is MINISTERING to them - giving them HOPE about what must "shortly take place" (in THEIR lifetime)... and he expects them to understand and act upon his directives, for he tells them that the “time is near”…
To seal up, or not to seal up…
The “time” in the book of Daniel was NOT near (Dan. 12:4), but the “time” in Rev 22:10 WAS, NEAR, If Revelation was NOT to be sealed because “THE TIME IS NEAR”, but Daniyl 22:10 the message was to be sealed because it was for “many days” and the “time of the end” (Daniel 10:14, 12:4,9), then “many” days are only 500 years, and if that is true, how can "at hand" or “the 10:14 is near” be for 1900 plus years away?
Not only have we never asked ourselves that question, but we have never even THOUGHT about this literary inconsistency.
Surely YAHchanan is not telling these poor persecuted believers in the Resurrected Hebrew Messiah that the “time is near and you must heed that which I’m writing, and that Father YAHweh is concerned with your persecution - BUT the things I am telling you that are near to you and shortly to come are (actually) NOT really near to you and (actually) NOT shortly to come but are (really and actually) not going to take place until 1900 plus-some years from now” ! "But hey, thanks for letting us USE your DESPERATE HOPE and your DIRE SITUATION as a STORY PROP for the REAL people (1900 plus years from now) that this letter is (actually) written TO and for." ?????????? For years we have been taught to say, "YAHshua and the apostles couldn't POSSIBLY have really MEANT what they clearly and plainly SAID (directly) to their first-century audience."
We must understand, some of us for the first time, that YAHshua and the apostles stood and looked their first-century audience in the EYES and told THEM all the things they did. And in the case of Revelation it was a letter of course...( we need to remember what YAHshua said in MattithYAH 16:28 " Some standing here will not taste death until you see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom. " ) Now was the Son of Father YAHweh misleading His followers? Remember by your words you are justified and by your words you are condemned. I say YAHshua KEEP His WORD!
We have looked at the book of Revelation and said, "Surely this book wasn't written for who it actually SAYS it was written to. Surely these words are about the end of the WORLD in OUR future. They couldn't POSSIBLY be metaphorical and symbolic in nature having to do with some first-century regional event or the end of an "age" (the Mosaic age)!"
And so, WE started building our OWN "twisted views", all based on the arrogance just displayed...
Again, we must ask ourselves… Is this letter “to the seven congregations” an actual first-century-audience-specific letter TO those actual seven congregations, or was YAHweh and His Son simply USING all those poor people as HUMAN STORY-TELLING PROPS (or "object lessons) for a story that is not even ABOUT them - but actually written for some folks over 1900 plus years later?
It IS either one or the other.It is ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL (B. R. U. T. A. L.) and completely THOUGHTLESS what today's end-times future-apocalypse "theologians" ( lying preachers ) are expecting us to believe about those poor people in those seven congregations who were sitting around reading that letter (which was ACTUALLY ADDRESSED to THEM)!
James is from Pa as well? Would have never guessed.
9:14 How do we know that "reflection" is going to be good enough?.......makes me wonder.....
Good enough for what?
We know it will be good enough because God is purifying us with a purpose, and He has promised to finish what He has started.
Semper Reformanda Have you not read the passages like.. "We are being conformed into the image of His Son."
(Which is what came to mind when he said it..)
And also.. "He who began a good work in you will finish it, until the day of the Lord."
Which means he will not stop taking those impurities out, until it is completed.
I wish I could live in James White's watch glasses or something. I could listen to this man all day everyday of my life. You wouldn't believe how confused some of the people of the muslim faith are about him. They actually think he's a racist. Really, check it out at muslimbychoice here on TH-cam. The first one I caught I didn't realize it was even a negative message about James White until the end when it cut away from him. Like everything he said was completely fine and then this person started saying how prejudiced it was and I was completely shocked. Talk about entitlement. These individuals seem to have this attitude that if you say anything at all about anyone who is black then you are a complete bigot. it's sad, and destructive behavior
I once had the temerity to be having a bad day in front of a black man. He used his belief that I was therefore a bigot and he felt justified therefore to steal from my boss.
Yessss
Your disdain of baptists makes it difficult to listen.
Advice for hurting christians: Stop listening to people who are pretending to know things they do not know and go see an actual therapist who has been trained to help people through hurtful experiences.
Nicholas Flamel I don't think so. A humanist therapist CAN NOT address spiritual matters. All suffering is healed by healing the spirit.
A humanist therapist cannot address "spiritual matters" because spirits apparently do not exist. Spirits are superstition from times when people sacrificed other humans to the gods because of failed crops. You have zero evidence that your invisible "spirit" or your imagined god exist.
Nicholas Flamel Oh I see, you're a mocking unbeliever. No evidence ever suffices for people like you. Not that there isn't any, there's plenty, but not for a stubborn, blind, self worshipper like yourself.
I mock people who are LIARS, who pretend to know things they do not know. You have shown ZERO evidence for your god existing, so it is dishonest for you to say that "No amount of evidence will suffice". How would you know? You have provided NONE. Put your money where your dishonest mouth is and show us the apparently abundant evidence that only you seem to be aware of...
We will all sit back and watch you FAIL.... because you are a FRAUD...
Nope, no hate at all. That is just YOU projecting things onto me that are not true. I enjoy pointing it out when people are LYING and PRETENDING to know things they do not know. I consider it a public service. YOU are pretending to know things about me that you do not know.