Should You Back Lands Of Evershade?

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  • @siposbalint2000
    @siposbalint2000 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I think for the vast, vast majority of people, getting the core box with stretch goals is enough, most people don't play campaign games to completion and I don't think this will be the exception. They never said the extra adventures are GF exclusives, so you will be able to get them in retail. Get the core game and if you did finish it, then think about picking up one of the extra adventures.

    • @distortedsteeve2980
      @distortedsteeve2980 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Man.. every time I see GameFound abbreviated as GF, I automatically just read Gluten Free in my head!! Ahhh it sicks haha

  • @Vikutori-H
    @Vikutori-H 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm in for Explorer! 🎉- Skipping sundrop as I'm happy to slowly work through painting my way through a unending field of minis

  • @Steele233
    @Steele233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is my first big backing of a table top game. Went with Explorer! Excited to see how it all plays out.

  • @DarkJackMF
    @DarkJackMF 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I feel this is the most biased video I've ever seen from BGC. Not because you work for Gamefound, but because you are clearly a LoE fanboi. Well...clearly I am too because I completely watched this video just for confirmation bias that my Explorers of Evershade pledge with Sundrop was clearly an excellent decision. This leaves me with just one question: Where do you live that $650 is a mortgage payment?

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I love your last question 🙂 and the answer is nowhere... But my first house that I bought in 2012, was roughly $650 for the payment. A 93k house with 20% down. It was a long time ago, but hey it half counts 🙂

    • @Exilium2090
      @Exilium2090 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@BoardGameConot the greatest take, but that's also not as important. I think the game has enough marketing behind and hype, like awaken realm content in your channel feels weird and redundant - should sort of already be included in your paycheck. I think Alex from GF and Alex from BGC should remain different personas, but that's just my opinion.

  • @callum5257
    @callum5257 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Having played Tainted Grail and ISS (with minis and standees), the standard edition is the way. I found the miniatures did very little to enhance the experience (if at all). You get so consumed in the gameplay loop and story that you don't even notice if the characters are represented by plastic or standees. The art on the cards and your imagination take over.
    So I guess I'd try to help anyone wondering about this game by saying... just spend the minimum. You'll be able to get close to the same experience (or perhaps the same experience, pending personal taste) with minimum investment.
    Side note, I'd actually like to see these games with tokens for characters (similar to TMB, V-Sabotage, etc). You stare at it top-down so much that it makes sense to me.

  • @kiaralong9668
    @kiaralong9668 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for covering this! My husband and I enjoy your content and respect your opinion very much.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm glad it was helpful 🙂

  • @moosescorner
    @moosescorner 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was my first "big" campaign i backed. I was glad to see they added a last second pledge level that had all the gameplay and skpped all the minis, changed mine to it. I don't mind miis for the players but i always think its silly to have tons and tons of minis driving up the price, especially when you won't see a lot o them moer than like once. I just hope tariffs don't end up causing havoc for this one when it delivers down the road.

  • @GearDiego23
    @GearDiego23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Already backed the biggest tier; but I like watching your videos.

  • @ChristopherWesterman-q1f
    @ChristopherWesterman-q1f 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I did single wave for ISS vangaurd and regreted it. It took forever when I saw the game in stores. Like a whole year after the initial shipment came out which was like a year. So it was like 2 yrs total wait. I will do split wave this time.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, that's sadly always been the case.

  • @steffenbue6065
    @steffenbue6065 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    You should have added that Etherfields and ISS Vanguard did not hold up their value. Only referencing the best example of STALKER is not enough input.

    • @nakanoFIN
      @nakanoFIN 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tainted Grail is also sold at cost or even less though it's good game (in my opinion). In addition, 2 wave shipping of Evershade may lower value of the corebox if deciding to immediately sell when game is fully delivered.

  • @ryanfifield9096
    @ryanfifield9096 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fairly excited for this title. Thanks for the dive in details!

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely 🙂

  • @joshuamartin1211
    @joshuamartin1211 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Backed at the Scout of Evershade level! Super pumped for this!

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Enjoy 🙂

  • @MrKidtendo64
    @MrKidtendo64 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Considering how people bounced off ISS Vanguard and Etherfields, I'm little surprised that some are quick to spend +$300 on this game. This game looks great, especially as someone who enjoy Elden Ring and loves DnD, but considering we won't see the complete game until 2026, I don't see a reason to rush out and back it. Happy to wait and see how things turn out for this one. I don't feels as bad as I thought I would dropping my pledge for it.

    • @alecvincent7609
      @alecvincent7609 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People bounced off ISS Vanguard ? I've never seen someone dislike that game lol

    • @Noname6589
      @Noname6589 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@alecvincent7609 well a lot of people say it became boring in the second half, because of all the dice checks that hat to be made. I think a lot of people didn't finished it. But I guess people didn't felt robbed, because they had fun until then.

    • @stevenharris6161
      @stevenharris6161 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alecvincent7609 It got boring. I sold my copy after my group decided it was dragging out too much.

    • @Zomerdromen
      @Zomerdromen 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Etherfields is still in my top 10 games of all time, as is Tainted Grail and many other narrative games. I skipped ISS Vanguard because I don't care too much for the sci-fi theme (and I just cannot have everything), but in general Awaken Realms is considered among the top tier for people who like narrative adventure games. So it's really not that surprising that this is doing so well. Of course whoever didn't like their previous games is unlikely to back this (and probably shouldn't), but that goes for every game ever.

    • @Oaklestat
      @Oaklestat 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ISS Vanguard is an awesome game.

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This looks amazing! I'm so very glad I've discovered, and am okay with, the fact that I never play anything more than the core box, no matter how awesome a game is. Knowing this allows me to back more games always at the core/all stretch goal versions.
    I would rather take a very rare chance that I want an expansion that is only sold on the second market for $500 over paying that much upfront for a campaign out of FOMO.

    • @luisecmf
      @luisecmf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With AR you don't even have that risk - their expansions will be sold at retail and they generally run 2nd prints of their core boxes/stretch goals also. There is no good reason to not test the base game before spending exta hundreds on the rest of content

  • @hmonglord
    @hmonglord 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    if only i haven't already spend 2k on KDM already

    • @stevenharris6161
      @stevenharris6161 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      KDM is better money spend so dont worry!

  • @allfour1
    @allfour1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The only game I've backed this year, and I may even finish Arydia before it arrives. 😅

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I hope I finish Arydia, primarily so that I can focus on this one when it arrives properly

    • @intrepidfool
      @intrepidfool 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also excited for Arydia and hope to be finshed when Evershade arrives

    • @Zomerdromen
      @Zomerdromen 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's really exciting to have Arydia finally on its way! Not surprising to see some overlap with backers of LoE 😊

  • @whitewolf6113
    @whitewolf6113 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been waiting for this video, cheers Alex have a good day

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hope it's helpful 🙂

  • @exeonx6561
    @exeonx6561 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The reason stalker is inflated in price is because of the new stalker video game releasing at the time of people getting their pledges.
    This spiked a sudden interest in the board game that went under radar and is better than most people anticipated.
    Awaken Realms games do hold their value, but you shouldn't expect to just get your money back.
    I bough Nemesis + Nemesis lockdown + All expansions (except kings) with only the playmats missing for 200€ on the used market.
    If I bought this via game found back in the game I would have spent +600€'s
    I bought the great wall all in sundropped for 300€ with all expansions still sealed.
    I got tainted grail + expansions sundropped for 150€
    Lands of Evershade seems like a contender for one of the best awaken realms games ever (or at least near the top) however I'm confident they won't make december 2025 is impossible.
    We will definitely see delays, and people just selling their copy once they receive it, depending on the market you may just get better value.
    I saw this recently with Primal the awakening, delays and people just selling full bundles for the original price minus taxes and shipping.
    So for me, I'll pass and wait and see, I do believe I'll get the game eventually, but burning that amount of cash on a game that I'll have to wait potentially years for is just not worth it, especially since the used market exists.

  • @mariososa5808
    @mariososa5808 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Helpful video I went from legend to explorer , just unsure if I should lean onto the FOMO and pick up the acrylic pack.

    • @Steele233
      @Steele233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I personally left out the acrylic because I felt like 90% of the time most of the acrylic markers are just going to be on my board anyways

    • @JRxlol
      @JRxlol 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No sense of having acrylic tokens since most of the tokens like player tokens,items etc will still be a cardboard ones. I traded it for dices upgrade& dice tray

  • @boardgameschill3495
    @boardgameschill3495 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always recommend split as well.

  • @matthewmanghi5765
    @matthewmanghi5765 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I always do single wave shipping on AR stuff, but I’m pretty patient and have plenty of games to play.
    I think I’m going to wait and pledge for this later after the first wave ships. I kinda want to wait until the first wave gets out into the “wild” and see how it plays out.

    • @Sadguardian
      @Sadguardian 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So you can do something like that? I've seen TG - Kings of Ruin that is on Late Pledge even though the game was done for one good year and it's already started shipping pretty everywhere. Backing later seems the best decision ever...I like what L.E what it promises, but I wish some more opinions from people that played the heck of it before getting in spending hundreds of $....

    • @matthewmanghi5765
      @matthewmanghi5765 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sadguardian Yeah. AR seems to like to reopen their PM a lot and even after things ship. Im guessing that there will be opportunities down the line to back EL. (Though you wont get the free gift). I’m in the same boat that for me this is some $$$ and I’d like to see what impressions of the final game are before I drop like $300 USD.

  • @paulwastney5134
    @paulwastney5134 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video. I see this is absolutely not for me. This just confirms it

  • @JackoDaddy5
    @JackoDaddy5 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm so lost on the campaign of this games shipping waves... If I back this thing all in with the Divinium Pledge... half of the game will show up in wave 1 next year, the other half wave 2 the year after... My issue is, does this mean I'm waiting until wave 2 to unbox and play the game? Or will wave 1 have the first half of stuff, minis, whatever stretch goals will be needed that I can play with the full experience in wave 1...or, do I need to wait until wave 2 to have all of the stuff to start the game?
    Ideally, you'd get whatever minis, add-ons, figures you'd need to start the games campaign, then the rest of the stuff for the extra adventures would come with wave 2, so you're getting all of the stuff when you're ready to start playing it.
    I wouldn't love starting the game with standees, then getting all of the figure models in wave 2.
    Does my issue/question make sense? I asked in the comments on the pledge page, but it gets lost in there SO fast, that nobody answers it.

    • @zhivkosyarov8592
      @zhivkosyarov8592 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It says in the shipping section of the campaign that the Core box with cosmetics is in the first wave - Core box (full base game), mini-figures acrylics and similar stuff will be in the first wave. The second wave will be all the stretch goals and gameplay add-ons like other extra races and campaigns.
      In short 1st Wave - start playing the game; 2nd Wave - extra gameplay

  • @michaeledmonds4849
    @michaeledmonds4849 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Dry Sea" Odyssey :)

  • @wiblick
    @wiblick 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With shipping and VAT the base game will be the same price for me retail/gamefound (based on previous experience) - I'm sorry to miss out on special edition and its save system but if I wait for retail I can forget about it for now, rather than getting frustrated by delays.

  • @DukeJohnny
    @DukeJohnny 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YES. Did I summarize it good? :D

  • @kiritokaguya9180
    @kiritokaguya9180 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Got myself the Scout Pledge with small addons with the acryl tokens. Dont need all the minis. 🙂 But sadly no more SG it seems right now.

  • @claudiogiordani89
    @claudiogiordani89 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im still waiting for my ISS vanguard pledge... I wont pledge this after waiting for 4 years. But i will watch your video to see how is the game. Thank you.

  • @henrikwakman7776
    @henrikwakman7776 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun video, actually!

  • @floridamarlins454
    @floridamarlins454 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Might wait for second wave late pledge and see if it is as well received by punters as it has been in the paid reviews.

  • @BonsaiNut
    @BonsaiNut 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am no closer to deciding on this one than before I watched this, lol. Even as someone who plays everything for campaign games (core + extras), adding this much content is daunting when I think about the 3 years we likely still have left in Frosthaven. At least we are very close to finishing all the Etherfields campaigns? I will miss Etherfields. I am hoping to see Awaken Relams Next before I commit to this game. If I see Etherfields 2 I will be going all in on that one and skipping this one. As you’ve said many times before, there are too many great games. It’s a problem.

  • @mattes939
    @mattes939 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have chosen single wave shipping because I hope that way I will have enough time to finish other campaign games I have in my backlog (Oathsworn, Tanares Ultimate, Frosthaven, ISS Vanguard add-ons, Isofarian Guard, Dungeons of Infinity and more to come). OK, maybe two years time of waiting for Lands of Evershade won't be enough :)

    • @stannypk5k9
      @stannypk5k9 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How did you choose the shipping option? I don't remember selecting anything during checkout.

    • @mattes939
      @mattes939 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stannypk5k9 I didn't. I believe it will come up in pledge manager.

  • @CicconeRitchie1
    @CicconeRitchie1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    C’mon man😂😂😂The bias is pretty strong in this one.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely agreed! Also check out my should you back it iss vanguard before I ever worked for Gamefound and let me know which one seems more balanced :)

  • @a.c.s.6204
    @a.c.s.6204 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I caved on this one but i had to pull a pledge from two other games to do so. I hope its worth those two other games and then some.

    • @a.c.s.6204
      @a.c.s.6204 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @nitro1048 budget wise I had to, I have limited funds yearly to spend on games

    • @a.c.s.6204
      @a.c.s.6204 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nitro1048 true, I just felt like the two other games I backed were probably unnecessary anyways for my collection

  • @gershcz
    @gershcz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is the quality of SunDrop good and look nice? Trying to see if it's worth the upgrade.

    • @Steele233
      @Steele233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The sundrop on their other projects has looked great so I personally think it is worth it

    • @goldsmeeth2771
      @goldsmeeth2771 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A little darker than what I like, but yes

  • @zombiegoatt4282
    @zombiegoatt4282 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I canceled my purchase. I like the game but it just priced too much for me to stay on board. Hope the game does good though.

  • @koenwijnants6499
    @koenwijnants6499 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thx for the video. Any opinion on the diorma ? I backed the Explorer pledge but do not need the diorama. Wish I could trade the diorama for free split shipping or something else... Wish it had some gameply like CMON does with their minia(mega)tures

  • @siriactuallysara
    @siriactuallysara 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m trying to be more fiscally responsible.
    As much as it pains me.
    I received to the special edditon with no add ons.
    And to be honest. I never use the add ons. Anyway.

  • @xSean0607
    @xSean0607 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nope, this ain't for me. I rather back Ballads and Tales Journey of the brave on kickstarter

  • @michaeledmonds4849
    @michaeledmonds4849 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the internet...this is already slightly outdated...as of Update 20...the diorama is looking likely to have a gameplay element :) (thought not required if you don't get it)

  • @ZentaurFTW
    @ZentaurFTW 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Need to point out an important correction: there are no standees followers. Its either buy the minis or use heroes minis you r not using in this adventure.

    • @lastwish5373
      @lastwish5373 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AR stated all standard and special edition core boxes will come with follower standees (update #15 on gamefound)

    • @luisecmf
      @luisecmf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They changed that and will now offer standees for them

    • @laxuscloud2495
      @laxuscloud2495 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is. Lol. Read the updates

    • @ZentaurFTW
      @ZentaurFTW 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Apologies, and I think I actually read that update but for some reason it didn't register. Maybe its because the complains were going on for quite a while before they relented, like how they did with the Scout pledge now. Cheers!

  • @winghong3
    @winghong3 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It was either this or Enormity kickstarter, and for me, Enormity wins out for me mostly because I think the combat and RPG elements will be much deeper in Enormity. As for narrative, I am sure AR would do great on storytelling, but perhaps I should really finish Kings of Ruin first, which is still sitting half-finished on my shelf.

  • @Reverie42
    @Reverie42 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Out of curiosity. You mentioned the game's narrative being broken up into smaller story arcs that can be played independently.
    Did you by chance ever play Dungeon Degenerates? I can never decide how much I like the actual game there, but the art is wild and it's nice to start up a campaign knowing I can finish it in a week or two.

  • @Naruga
    @Naruga 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it bad I look at these kinda games now and think , I can not justify this cost at all...ill wait for the tts mod

  • @Cocoon-e5m
    @Cocoon-e5m 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    regarding your advice on split wave shipping , non-english speaking players do not have a choice. With AwakenRealms the localized LANG versions are delivered in the second wave anyway.

  • @intrepidfool
    @intrepidfool 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That would have been a shorter video ;)

    • @intrepidfool
      @intrepidfool 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Looking out for you Alex. Saving time with simplicity.

  • @shaike82
    @shaike82 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Should you back it?
    Nope. Too pricey...

  • @TheTintinjb
    @TheTintinjb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very annoying to have split shipping even with the core box content

  • @paulbarton1119
    @paulbarton1119 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Alex,
    Great video, already backed at a higher than I should level lol.
    Quick question is the Leather Bound books not an option in America? Because it's something that can be selected in Europe and it again adds to the price tag/premium natyre so going all out might push that up further.
    Really looks like a fun game.

  • @autumnarcheology
    @autumnarcheology 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Incredibly replayable? This game has one incredible campaign but the second or third play through will be a a grinding drag. There might be some different choices but it all leads up to the same means to an end. Not worth 700 dollars for all in. Just buy the main game then get everything else from eBay when people start saying this is a dud like Etherfields or fall of Avalon. Much cheaper then.
    Also, you can tell how developers feel about there games with their ad content. Every second ad on Facebook is for this game. Makes me worry how this game will hold up. Just like all the ads for the pay to play iPhone games. They’re all over the place.
    But man, I love the art. lol.

    • @1AngelAlita
      @1AngelAlita 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Incredibly replayable, where have I heard that before? Some people were saying that about Etherfields, LOL.

  • @andrewwilson895
    @andrewwilson895 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm happy for anyone who's excited about this game, but…
    I just don't get it. Unless you love the overproduction aspect, or you're particularly interested in this setting, why not just play a normal tabletop RPG? They're way better at offering robust storytelling experiences.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've tried and bounced off RPGs time and time again. I'm glad people love them, but they aren't for me. Whereas this one sings. The good news is if you don't feel you benefit from this, that's a lot of money not spent :)

    • @andrewwilson895
      @andrewwilson895 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BoardGameCo Yeah, I get that some people don't get RPGs...but then what is this offering that's better? Is it the strength of the story? The table presence? Or the fact that it's all prewritten, so no room for a bad GM to mess it up?

  • @intrepidfool
    @intrepidfool 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awaken Realms makes the very best miniatures in the industry. Better than companies that specialize in them. If I still had time for RPGs, I would have invested in them. But shelf space is more of a concern than uplifting the table presence of just this boardgame at the cost of playtime / fiddlyness (and money).
    Backed the special edition (as I love the contrast between character minis and opponent tokens / standees when playing) and the three add-on adventures. YMMV

    • @derraldlosey1118
      @derraldlosey1118 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you think AR has the best miniatures you must not be familiar with many companies. AR is on the low end of mini quality. Ludus Magnus, cmon, Monolith, Dimension, Dragori, Kingdom Death, Succubus, Into the Unknown, Shadowborne, steamforged, Limbo all have better quality miniatures. And thats just off the top of my head.
      I have a lot of AR games and Nemesis is in my top ten but the mini quality is not it.

    • @goldsmeeth2771
      @goldsmeeth2771 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AR minis are good, but not the best. You should take a close look at KDM or Eldfall chronicles, just 2 mere examples, and there are others

  • @normanl.6891
    @normanl.6891 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nope for me. Just can't back games with AI created artwork,
    Especially ones so blatantly based on existing IP's (eg Elden Ring).