5 Reasons you SHOULDN'T back : Lands of Evershade

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  • @critiquegeek7987
    @critiquegeek7987 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I watched this entire video and my main takeaway is get the special edition, not the standard edition 😎

    • @GoofyDouchebag
      @GoofyDouchebag หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is scummy that AR basically made the cheapest version undesirable … this is the pinnacle of predatory design practices. Pass.

  • @moo2k4
    @moo2k4 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    JOKE'S ON YOU CHRIS I'VE ALREADY BACKED AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@moo2k4 dang I was so close too!!

    • @moo2k4
      @moo2k4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@RoomandBoardReviews AND I BACKED THE DELUXE VERSION! MWAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!
      But also I'm a solo player and this looks like it's going to scratch that narrative adventure itch so hard for me. Also, I only have TWO campaign games on my shelf that aren't beat! So ha!

    • @vincevella4178
      @vincevella4178 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here, I've also backed it including the 2 extra side missions.
      I'm a huge fan of narrative base games, that's why I bought, kings of ruin, fall of avalon, and sleeping gods.

    • @Azrael-2025
      @Azrael-2025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I already backed. My final crowdfunding. 🎉​@@RoomandBoardReviews

    • @GoofyDouchebag
      @GoofyDouchebag หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re a fool. Enjoy wasting your money

  • @marknemergut8244
    @marknemergut8244 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Man thank you so much for being a voice of reason again. I love these videos!
    I was going to back this until your point #3. This looks like too much reading IMO. I’m a tired dad with 3 young ens, so too much reading puts me to sleep. I’m currently playing through Etherfields solo myself and loving it, but that’s just the right amount of reading for me.
    Thanks again!

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@marknemergut8244 yeah I used to get really excited about narrative text but realize how when I'm tired the last thing I want to do is talk out loud.

    • @ACE99299
      @ACE99299 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Doesnt it have an APP that will read everything to you?

    • @svenkill
      @svenkill 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, theres an app, it was at the $1,000,000 stretch goal. So we can have it read the story back to us and listen to the ambience music 😊.

  • @Mepper.
    @Mepper. หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    When I heard this was more narrative-based than fighting-based I became much more interested. When I saw they had a standee version I was even more hyped. When I saw the big special edition upsell push my interest dampened a bit. When I saw that there were 2 extra adventure add-ons that I would just have to get for $60 because I'm a completionist my enthusiasm dropped a bit more. When I saw that the final delivery wouldn't happen until the second half of 2026 (which could really mean the end of 2027) my enthusiasm dropped back even more. Now that my impulse backing has come under control I can safely sit back and watch this one without pulling the trigger.

    • @wiblick
      @wiblick หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely excited for 'more narrative than combat' but if I'm still in the hobby in 2027 I'll pick it up then.

    • @shocknawe
      @shocknawe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just buy it when it comes out after watching a few reviews and game sessions to see if it's gonna be even remotely your thing.
      That sounds more sensible to me.

    • @n4tune8
      @n4tune8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You read my mind. I especially don't like the fact that the two extra adventures are add-ons, whereas they should have been monetary stretch goals.

    • @tiredguy2753
      @tiredguy2753 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah this is definitely a 2027 game without question . So I think the biggest thing potential backers have to ask themselves is “will i stil be as hyped for this game 2 years from now?”
      That being said the game wil def. Hit retail so there is no FOMO.

    • @FoolishFishBooks
      @FoolishFishBooks หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A narrative game written by a non-native speaker, edited only by non-native speakers... I can't count how many times I laughed out loud during Tainted Grail at malapropisms and completely weird turns of phrase... Not immersive is the least you can say

  • @asavi3
    @asavi3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    You know what, you’re right. So I’m going all-in, thanks Chris!

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@asavi3 wait a second..... Haha

    • @bryanyoung9966
      @bryanyoung9966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol the good natured trolling is one of the best parts of this channel
      Edit: was supposed to say trolling not telling. lol oh well I got a ❤️ from Chris!

  • @SilverPanos
    @SilverPanos หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I did pledge for it but the marketing on the available pledges is kind of annoying, aka, gatekeeping the save/storage on special edition, pushing the acrylic tokens with minis pedge, and worst of all pushing the dice & tray and a useless notebook with the expansions pledge while there is no gameplay all in pledge available. On every available pledge, you are going for something you want and get burdened with something you wouldnt normally go for ....

  • @Noel_Maymes
    @Noel_Maymes หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Soooo here’s the deal for me:
    So far, EVERY Awaken Realms game that I’ve seen on gamefound, has been in my online retail shop and even ended up being on a huge sail shortly after.
    All of them except Castles of Burgundy. It was not on sale but still cheaper than backing with shipping and VAT.
    Currently, they’re selling the ALL-IN lords of ragnarok bundle with stretchgoals for less than 180€.
    And yet, even when I see them on sale in my shoo, I just realize how much money is involved, and the feel of wanting it just goes away

    • @ghostzone985
      @ghostzone985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is url of your shop

    • @Pavos
      @Pavos หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah please give me the link 😅

    • @jedisparky
      @jedisparky 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Uh, ya! I'd REALLY like to visit this mythical site with discounted AR products.

    • @TheGggandalf
      @TheGggandalf 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      URL of shop or didn't happen.

    • @exeonx6561
      @exeonx6561 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This, in the used market I've managed to get my hands on Nemesis+Lockdown and about every expansion but kings(variation on the queen) for 200€.
      I got the tainted grail+Stretch goals + Stories + 2 story expansions + monsters of avalon (miniatures set) sundropped for 150€.
      I also got the all in sundropped edition of the great wall sundropped for 300€, which other than the base game was still sealed.
      It's thus very likely that this game will join my ranks, some months after release, when a guy has to sell it quite a bit cheaper because he no longer plays games.

  • @lystic9392
    @lystic9392 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Palad'n... Huh. I kind of like the sound of that.
    A palad'n, a worrier, a rouge, and a ringer. We call that a party!

  • @michelv1816
    @michelv1816 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I want to go all-in on this just so I can roleplay an Alf named Gordon Shumway that just repeats "No problem!" and tries to eat cats all the time. That would totally be worth $463 CAD + $107 for shipping. Is there a stretch goal that allows us to rename the game: "Lands of Evershade: Melmac Reborn"? It would be a missed opportunity if it didn't come to pass...

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michelv1816 of all the reasons I am confident yours is the most valid

  • @Loryster
    @Loryster หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Chris I've listened to you several times in the past... you've saved me money many times... but this time.... I can't pass this up!

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Loryster haha that's also great, I hope you end up loving it :)

    • @Azrael-2025
      @Azrael-2025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. This is my final crowdfunding. This and the Story of Many are tied for this year's most anticipated crowdfunding for me.

  • @Skol999
    @Skol999 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Subscribed, since you just saved me a couple of hundred quid! I will go finish EF/ISSV/TG instead!

  • @RemcoHaarlem
    @RemcoHaarlem หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Before watching, is it because it's ANOTHER CAMPAIGN?

  • @colinsmithers6961
    @colinsmithers6961 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I needed this, my wallet needed this... we needed this.

  • @CitizenMio
    @CitizenMio หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Both Alf and Dwerg are Germanic in origin and existed before Elf and Dwarf. So they aren't just obvious word twists being obvious. ;)
    In Dutch for instance, dwerg=dwarf and an alf is a mythological being that is fairy adjacent (folklore gets complicated fast)
    Other than Alf being an acronym for Alien Life Form, I'm not sure how they came up with that character's name. But it wouldn't surprise me if they noted the similarity to elf during the concept stage and someone mentioned it's actually old norse/germanic for it.

  • @PeterCongedo
    @PeterCongedo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you. You have pulled me back from the edge again

  • @francopdx
    @francopdx 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for pulling me back on this one. And for reminding me about Arydia. I'm super excited for Arydia, and it'll be a while before I even get a chance to play that - currently about maybe halfway through Frosthaven and also have ISS Vanguard on deck along with a couple smaller campaign games on the side (Distant Skies and Tidal Blades 2), plus a couple others coming this winter (Earthborne Rangers and Rogue Angels), so it'll probably be at least couple years before I have time for something more besides all these, ha.

  • @Theaquasnake
    @Theaquasnake หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks! The topic on the combat is what talked me from going off the edge of the cliff. I went ahead and basically canceled my pledge. 😅
    I'm primarily a Solo player in which Dungeon Crawlers is typically my favorite genre, so I value combat far more over narrative.
    Like you mentioned, I was trying to get a sense on what the combat was like but wasn't getting too much info from the crowdfunding page. So I was becoming skeptical.
    Now hearing that combat may barely happen is what convinced me from canceling. Especially from what I see from the combat is pretty standard fare which didn't come across as special compared to what I already have.
    This actually made convinced me that I made the right choice in backing Grimcoven!

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Theaquasnake nice yeah grimcoven will definitely have more of that combat feeling

  • @adamnikles7335
    @adamnikles7335 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Two words why i wont be backing: Isofarian Guard. I know and LOVE that game and ive barely scratched the surface. And it was $250 for the all in, not close to $400 after shipping.

  • @bcantui
    @bcantui หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You should watch Shelfside’s review of the prototype… this one is hard to not back.
    They were super critical of Grimcoven with a 5/10 but they are gushing over LoE with 9/10s and very well explained why.
    Your video as always helps, but it may not be enough this time. 😬

    • @bcantui
      @bcantui หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      1. I know they said 5/10 with a potential to be 9/10 if they fixed stuff, but they stuff they needed to fix was WAY more than what they need to do for Lands of Evershade. And at the point I had to give money to them it was 5/10, not whatever potential the game could have. I watched Shelfside’s video twice, I also watched game brigades videos, boardgameco, and every single other one out there. Since grimcoven was my FOR SURE back since they announced it for this year over any other campaign even Lands of Evershade. But I ended up not backing and deciding on secondhand market if they actually deliver the changes, it’s a gamble.
      And yes they have made changes these past few months and I’ve been keeping up with them. While some do address concerns I can see new concerns rising from how they are dealing with them. Fiddliness being a main concern. I sincerely hope it turns out to be a 9 or 10/10 and I will get it secondhand if so. Probably even at a better price than now as it normally is with AR games, but my main point was that the risk of a company making a game a 5 to a 10 than a 9 to a 10 is far greater for the former 5/10 game, plain and simple.
      Lands of Evershade is far more polished and ready as a product and it is in AR’s wheelhouse with games like Tainted Grail and Kings of Ruin on their background. Grimcoven is their first real boss battler iteration, so I wouldn’t be surprised a 2.0 version comes out or something for it if the game doesn’t do great (similar to their first Tainted Grail iteration).
      2. I love Alex and continue to watch him, but i don’t listen to the score he gives to games from CMON and AR for his obvious conflict of interest and bias. Regardless if you disclose it or acknowledge it, by the nature of it a bias is still there in the back of your head whether you want it or not. It is impossible to be 100% impartial in his specific situation. If he really did enjoy grimcoven to say 4/5 great for him; however, from gameplay I saw and I saw every single one of them, it didn’t seem that good YET.
      Thanks for the discussion though and I really hope both these games become or remain amazing.

    • @HazardGoat
      @HazardGoat หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried to watch that guy but he is WAY too shouty.

    • @bcantui
      @bcantui หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HazardGoat that’s an argument I cannot disagree with 😂 he’s humor can be loud. I’d recommend watched the final sections where he scores and says why at least. But if you can bear it it’s good.

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My brain just always reads the title of that game as Grimeoven. It's like a regular oven, but covered in grime.

  • @andrewk2118
    @andrewk2118 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video! Thank you!
    I think you missed a very important point though. A lot of Awaken Realms games got some sort of 2.0 improvements, rulebook/journals updates, second printing updates with typos/mistakes fixes. And since this game is so text heavy, the chances of mistakes and "second printing fixes" are very high. From this campaign it is obvious they will follow up with more adventures and/or reprint of this game (The way they explained how your out of core box adventures gonna be standing all pretty next to the game on a bookshelf or whatnot indicates, at least to me, they are planning to spend more time on this game and this universe they created). With all that being said, I think if you have a backlog of campaign games and are willing to wait for a better/leaner/less typos/better language type of game, you should wait for the next crowdfunding campaign for this game

    • @laxuscloud2495
      @laxuscloud2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I ended up cancellint my pledge 6hrs before it ends. Mainly because i thought to my self, they will reprint this just like tainted grail with some revisions. And i'll buy the improve version in 3-4years time.

    • @andrewk2118
      @andrewk2118 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laxuscloud2495I did exactly the same. Went all-in from the start, cancelled my pledge right when they got to 7mil

    • @laxuscloud2495
      @laxuscloud2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewk2118 ngl im excited it did well. As they will probably be more inclined to improve it in the future. As there were many..many backers.

    • @andrewk2118
      @andrewk2118 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laxuscloud2495 I agree. In their latest update they said they have plenty more stories and adventures they want to share in this universe. I am confident there will be more crowdfunding campaigns for this game

    • @laxuscloud2495
      @laxuscloud2495 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @andrewk2118 hell yes!

  • @ChaBox998
    @ChaBox998 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your "5 reasons not to back" series is my favorite🤣 I need somebody to stop me

  • @Vequeth
    @Vequeth หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Im a board gamer and I need saving. Willing to trade ISS Vanguard and addons for therapy.

    • @pheoxin
      @pheoxin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How is ISS btw ? Curious about the title :)

    • @Vequeth
      @Vequeth 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @pheoxin thematically 10/10, mechanics 5/10. Depends how much you like rolling dice a lot

  • @pabgondia
    @pabgondia 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You literally just saved me 200+ euros

  • @oliwardcomics
    @oliwardcomics หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I wasnt interested in this game at all until you mentioned ALF. I miss that little guy

  • @joshuamartin1211
    @joshuamartin1211 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think as a counterpoint to the upkeep critique...as someone that has DM'd before and wanted a faster, easier way to run campaigns, this seems like the right amount of fiddly. I hope they have plans to continue with this world because I think the foundational mechanics rock.

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fiddly is probably a better word than upkeep for what was described. The fiddly is finding the right token or (in most of these games) tracking monster HP.
      Upkeep is taking actions for the game or updating states to keep the game running. Things like ticking down a timer, activating monsters, drawing and resolving event cards, etc.

  • @winghong3
    @winghong3 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am kind of sad that I heard about Arydia so late, totally missed that kickstarter. Is Arydia supposed to go on retail? Or do you think I should wait for the eventual 2nd reprinting where it might go on kickstarter again (hope that is the case if the game is a hit)

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@winghong3 I'm not sure if it will go to retail, best place would be to ask through to their website I think, or on BGG forums they might monitor those and have a response

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@winghong3 I wouldn't worry about missing it, these things always will come around again :)

  • @martinidamian
    @martinidamian 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    loving the video and your vibe, why does it look like you filmed it from the bathroom though?

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@martinidamian haha it's a linen closet! (I'm on a contract and so this is the best spot I've got for sound and privacy where I'm staying, my house looks 10% better! Haha)

  • @shaike82
    @shaike82 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is a TTRPG in a board game - for better or for worse...
    If you are experienced with TTRPGs - you will love it, if not - then it depends...

  • @cerealkilla187
    @cerealkilla187 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You’ve convinced me not to back it. I don’t want to sit around and choose my own adventure for up to 3 hours. That sounds absolutely dreadful.

  • @foodflights1408
    @foodflights1408 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This just strikes me as Sleeping Gods with the keyword-pathing adventure book and light combat combine with the AR (admittedly awesome) treatment. That's not a slam. I'm interested in backing this because of it, not despite it.

  • @djoj20
    @djoj20 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Reason number 1: it's by Awaken Realms and therefore the gameplay loop is likely repetitive and shallow

    • @dickywoo
      @dickywoo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s true , and I can’t tell the difference between this , ISS ,EF and TG

  • @beerman2000
    @beerman2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Inexplicably doesn't give a lid for the character board? Oh, I think there's about a $40 reason why it's not included in the base(ment) version. It's working amazingly well also, if they've got you angling for the deluxe version.

  • @corenthian9426
    @corenthian9426 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You might have actually convinced me to not go all-in. But we both know Hextra will pressure me into backing it so I might as well just give up now and do it.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@corenthian9426 yeah sure, if you want to lose to Hextra... If you want him lording that over you.... For the rest of your life...

    • @corenthian9426
      @corenthian9426 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ but he makes pretty inserts!

    • @asavi3
      @asavi3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RoomandBoardReviewsdo it

    • @asavi3
      @asavi3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@corenthian9426I got you fam

  • @sideswipe2615
    @sideswipe2615 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My reason is that I bought ISS Vanguard used a year and a half ago and haven’t touched it since so I DEFINITELY shouldn’t get another campaign game, especially with STALKER on the way.

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've played 3 STALKER missions. I'm really digging it. Still not sure whether I like it or Earth Under Siege more. But, they both provide a fun take on stealth-based mechanics.

    • @sideswipe2615
      @sideswipe2615 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ glad to hear it! I did single batch shipping so I won’t see my copy for a minute, but I couldn’t justify spending that much on shipping earlier this year.

    • @andreawille4162
      @andreawille4162 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should definitely give ISS Vanguard a go. It is one of the most interesting games I have played in the last years. Great story with many unexpected twists. Really great game.

    • @sideswipe2615
      @sideswipe2615 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I have a group I’d want to run through it, but maybe I should try playing it solo to get started.

    • @TimtimGaming
      @TimtimGaming หลายเดือนก่อน

      We just finished Vanguard a few weeks back, incredible game and well worth giving a go.

  • @bryanyoung9966
    @bryanyoung9966 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So I watched this specifically to talk myself out of getting it. I have a ton of campaigns and don’t play most.
    But even after all of the good points you made the thing that makes me not want to play the most is the names. Alf?? Maybe this is a “lost in translation” thing since they are a European company, but anyone my age in America will think of the Alf. That alone almost makes me not want to get it.
    Then I see those sweet, sweet minis… and I waver.

    • @manuelwenzlik861
      @manuelwenzlik861 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We had ALF in Europe as well, so that was my first association too. Furthermore, since German is my first language, I just can't take the "Dwergs" serious, as it's just a mix of "Dwarf" and its German translation "Zwerg". It sounds even funnier to German speakers. Sorry, but that's just lazy.

    • @Hesber1984
      @Hesber1984 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alf is the original "name" of elf in Nordic. In fact, elf is an alteration of the said Alf.
      Although we also know the character in Europe... the translation is actually correct.

    • @bryanyoung9966
      @bryanyoung9966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hesber1984 That’s interesting. Still difficult for Americans because of the comedic tv show. But thanks for sharing.
      Looked up that Alf is the Middle Low German for evil spirit. Also saw it as Alfar and Aelfar. Either one of those would have been better but that’s just preference. Appreciate your comment.

    • @drazharr9773
      @drazharr9773 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@manuelwenzlik861 Dwerg is literally the word for dwarf in Dutch.

  • @kasaklubdemola8625
    @kasaklubdemola8625 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you sir, that was enough to calm me down.
    Despite being SIX weeks after the end of shipping, AR still can't deliver my Tamahsii... f joke. :/

    • @SethAGonzalez
      @SethAGonzalez หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ouch! That's rough to hear. If I may ask, where are you located in the world that AR hasn't gotten you Tamashii yet? If it helps any, its a pretty fun game imo. Have you gotten the after market acrylic tokens for it? The cardboard ones that come with the game are just not at all satisfying to play with pulling from the bag. I ordered the acrylic tokens and it makes game play a big step up.

    • @kasaklubdemola8625
      @kasaklubdemola8625 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I live in Poland, Wroclaw, really near the AR head office - ironic.
      They telling me that package is stuck at shipping hub... yes for f 6 weeks now.
      I didn't saw acrylic tokens option. :|

  • @sterex9805
    @sterex9805 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    campaign games....we started gaming in 2019, we've finished gloomhaven & frosthaven and halfway through tainted grail kings of ruin. Got 2 on the shelf (sleeping gods & tanares adventures).

  • @adilmajid8785
    @adilmajid8785 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you do one for Dice Throne Outcasts?

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adilmajid8785 I didn't, I didn't have the time and have had a couple on dice throne anyway, but I always cover them in Monday's Crowdfunding Countdown in any campaigns last week of funding. That was in the big 2 hour week, something like 40 games finished up that week!

  • @Jason-xs5ux
    @Jason-xs5ux 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah the combat lacking seemed a red flag for my personal taste, I love adventure but as mainly a solo player I can’t get into that aspect with BG3 being available

  • @velar1s
    @velar1s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the most helpful was probably you mentioning Arydia here.😂 I missed that one, and it looks far more amazing - it really has everything I didn't know Evershade seems to be missing. Congratulations, you talked me out of one game just to talk me into another one - one that I can't get anymore. Well, at least that probably means I won't be spending a lot of money now 😂
    Apart from this, Evershade sounded like the perfect game for me, basically like being able to play a dnd campaign solo - which ist EXACTLY what I'm looking for. However, I'm also very short on both space in general (small flat) and table space as well. I only own one table, where I'm working from remotly 50% of the time, eat and play games. Letting a game sitting around works only on weekends. And while I do get campaign games on the table, I don't play games when I need too long to set them up and down each day. So I was kind of suprised by the rage I've felt because of the gatekeeping the storage solution to the special edition. Basically, I have to pay 40$ more (a whole other retail game!) just to get a reasonable storage system - and an upgraded version I don't even want, because it just needs more space I don't have and the standees look very nice. I felt a bit better after you complaining about that as well, thanks! 😄
    Also, I'm still waiting for Kings of Ruins and the additional campaigns for the original Tainted Grail, as I bought that one in retail. Backing another narrative campaign game of the same company when I have three on the way which want to be played seems silly. I might reevaluate getting Evershade either as a Late Pledge or in retail, when we know more about it and it's closer to actually getting the game. If I want to get it in german, I'm looking at a 2 years wait at the very least. Who knows what happens until then.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@velar1s yeah the extra 40 does suck but feels necessary to not make it incredibly annoying - I also have a smaller space which is also why I'm hoping arydia sets the standard for amazing save systems haha

    • @velar1s
      @velar1s หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RoomandBoardReviews It's also apparently gamefound exclusive. That's quite a new take on FOMO, fear of missing out on the storage solution lol. Very sneaky! Concerning save systems I really like the Isofarian Guard one. It's a insanly huge box and the biggest table hogger I have, but it's really well organized and set up very quickly. I'm looking forward to a video about Arydia, though, if you're going to make one!

  • @jartree
    @jartree หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for talking me down. I too backed Arydia, and I recently got Tidal Blades RotU delivered, and have yet to start Frosthaven (I know...) so reminding me that I already have too many campaign games is appreciated.

  • @warrenwise8798
    @warrenwise8798 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arguments 2-5 are literally positives for me.
    Argument 1 doesn’t apply to me as I am new to board games.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@warrenwise8798 that's great, I hope you end up loving it :)

  • @fy8798
    @fy8798 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, the downgrades of the double-layer sheets/lack of lids is just so... urgh. I understand they have to justify their special editions, but that essentially makes all their retail versions intentionally and knowingly worse from an usability perspective. I just think this approach really sucks, you know?

    • @leynadIX
      @leynadIX 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The standard version is a downgrade, not the special edition an upgrade. It's a shame.

  • @jakiedark
    @jakiedark 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, based on what I have seen, including this video, it seems indeed as a extensive choose your own adventure game with a whole lot of upkeep. Which reminds me of isofarion gaurd, which has been pretty fun so far but I do keep the nagging feeling of, this would work so much easier as a computer game.

  • @RopeBunny.
    @RopeBunny. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, get a redundant all-in pledge? 🤔

  • @AdamJorgensen
    @AdamJorgensen หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Solution for single edition saving: clingwrap 😂
    More seriously, this is an easy pass for me. These kinds of AR games you should always wait for the reprint so you can get a good idea if you'll actually like it. Don't want to end up like all those Etherfields regretters...

    • @pheoxin
      @pheoxin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      EY! I got etherfields! How dare you... wait.. I see your point... I got so tired during "tutorial" and figuring out whats what I didnt want to look at the game... Its still half open on the counter for last weeks... ready to play yet i dont want to touch that hahah

  • @benja6902
    @benja6902 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You mentioned two other alternatives. One of them was Arydia. Do you remember what the other game was?

  • @LuisPerez-gi4cw
    @LuisPerez-gi4cw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Creo que este video de 5 razones es mi favorito hasta la fecha; por el tema y reflexión que tiene.
    PD: no comprare el complemento de miniaturas; ya vi que apenas son necesarias.

  • @Lionhunt3rs
    @Lionhunt3rs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this. I went all in

  • @toddferrullo1871
    @toddferrullo1871 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly, I am still on the fence with this one. I do like what I see with it but your number 1 point does hit home a little. Fortunately, I have actually played through most of my campaign games. We are finishing the main campaign for one of my last two un-played games, ISS Vanguard, currently and I have played the other ones that I have except for Kings of Ruin but I am going to convince myself that in the two years that it will take to get this one that I will have probably played through it by then.

  • @yogibbear
    @yogibbear หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I am already all in, is this technically hate watching? Or therapy?

  • @Sporkedphro
    @Sporkedphro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I said lower back but they didn...they didn't listen!" hahahaha

  • @Duaneski
    @Duaneski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:00 ALRIGHT fine I'll buy the deluxe version
    15:00 okay I don't need this game
    Thanks Chris!

  • @zombiegoatt4282
    @zombiegoatt4282 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I backed it but you will be proud of me I'm not all in! I left off the dice upgrade and the notebook.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zombiegoatt4282 haha it's the little wins :)

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zombiegoatt4282 hope you love it!

  • @Batsku-12v
    @Batsku-12v หลายเดือนก่อน

    Erradia? Or what game he mentions at the start??

    • @david24365
      @david24365 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Arydia

  • @DukeJohnny
    @DukeJohnny 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know the game is really good when each point Chris makes starts with him laughing lmao. At least you're true to the series! :D
    Thank god I've backed on day one :D In my defense, I never went for any Tainted Grail games, but this one got me excited AF, so I just prepped it in my budget looong time before the campaign started. Cheers man!

  • @AtheistBelgium
    @AtheistBelgium หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    17:23 "Dwerg" is "Dwarf" in my Dutch language.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AtheistBelgium oh cool! What about Alf?

    • @CitizenMio
      @CitizenMio หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@RoomandBoardReviews
      Just commented on that before I scrolled down here. But yes, Dutch also uses Alf for a mythological creature that's similar to fae.
      In daily usage we stick to elf for elves tho. LotR style elves being quite different. But dwarf we do call dwerg.

    • @AtheistBelgium
      @AtheistBelgium หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RoomandBoardReviews As mentioned above, an Alf is another mythological creature, but unlike an Elf, it is not concidered to be a pure good being. It's not pure evil either, but it is known to tease and even harass people. If i remember correctly it's somewhat related to Gnomes. We once had a very rich folklore here in western Europe. :)

  • @browe
    @browe หลายเดือนก่อน

    💯 with you all the way regarding your comparisons to Arydia! I am still so excited for that to arrive, and what a lovely + supportive community formed around that campaign, too.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@browe oh I can't wait, we're in the final stretch!!

  • @NeckbeardsGaming
    @NeckbeardsGaming 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just seeing "by Awaken Realms" is enough to make me not want to back.

  • @Faent89
    @Faent89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid reasons at number 2 and 1. Truer words never spoken.

  • @freek204
    @freek204 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, Chris!

  • @dvoid665
    @dvoid665 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm getting this, but I'm definitely not getting the minis since you'll barely see combat. Also, the pricing on this game is insane if you want all in with sundrop and premium books.

  • @dickywoo
    @dickywoo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for stopped me from backing.
    Honestly I still half way of ISS and I am already sick of the upkeeping.
    Besides I don’t see difference between all the other campaign game fm AR.

  • @normstewart546
    @normstewart546 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well considered.

  • @FoolishFishBooks
    @FoolishFishBooks หลายเดือนก่อน

    A narrative game written by a non-native speaker, edited only by non-native speakers... I can't count how many times I laughed out loud during Tainted Grail at malapropisms and completely weird turns of phrase... Not immersive is the least you can say

  • @Megalcristo2
    @Megalcristo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should have been an interactive book

  • @CB-yh3db
    @CB-yh3db หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the game but the major turn-off was the high fantasy race tropes that they went with.
    Elf, Dwarf, Orc. I wish they switched it up ever so slightly like Gloomhaven did.
    I understand why people use these tropes because they are a shortcut. We all know what Elves are like. We have all seen LoTR. This is why I liked what Stormsunder was promising. Yes, I know that Stormsunder may never see the light of day but I liked how they had some tranditional characters but also had a “Half-demon Pirate” and pair of “sadistic Vampire Twins.” Granted, Stormsunder didn’t have “create your own character” so making generic races might be the “way to go”. They (Evershade) did have as a stretch goal, a “Shrew” race that can poison people so I thought that was interesting. How about a Necromancer build? Lovely game mechanics and story seems fantastic but the characters seem so cliche.

  • @CdnBulldog1
    @CdnBulldog1 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THANK-YOU!

  • @ZeNex74
    @ZeNex74 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hhmm just backed as a noob to board types games. Unsure now.. but will get nemesis next year

  • @timf7354
    @timf7354 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pal-addins as their name suggests, are great for groups. :)
    I'm all-in on this one. Perhaps I could've used that money on an Awaken Realms tramp tat....but that seems painful.

  • @timf7354
    @timf7354 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:58 "Did they take you to the secret dungeon with the swings?" LMAO! That's the next Awaken Realms game. Fifty Evershades of Grey.

  • @leynadIX
    @leynadIX 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just erase my items in the pledge manager: 280$ without VAT and sending costs. I will try to finish Tainted Grail the fall of Avalon before the mew tainted grail come.

  • @napa8266
    @napa8266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it bother anyone else, that the special edition stretch goals are standees not miniatures? It’s a little difficult for the creature standees to seem menacing in stature when they are faced with 3D hero sculpts that tower over them 😂

  • @Pavos
    @Pavos หลายเดือนก่อน

    I backed this because I was extremely excited about the premise, but was disappointed by the combat and linearity in the playthroughs. Then I looked at all of the unfinished campaigns on my shelf and cancelled my pledge. Thanks as always for reinforcing my decision!

  • @Lysen2077
    @Lysen2077 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time I see these narrative focused RPG board games, I always remind myself that I can play couch co-op Original Sin 2 and BG3 with my friends instead.
    No upkeep, no reading, no setup and teardown, no rules explanation, just fun.
    If I want the 3-5 player social aspect I'd MUCH rather have the free flowing and open experience of a true pen & paper RPG where the GM let's you do whatever.

  • @braiangularte9315
    @braiangularte9315 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like another gimmick, I will wait to see if they come out with a revised version later. Thank you in advance to all you who are paying hundreds of dollars to beta test this thing.

  • @richardsands
    @richardsands หลายเดือนก่อน

    The non-miniature differences between standard and special edition, with the possible exception of the hardback book, are just a rip off to make the standard edition non-viable, so people have to buy the special version. They could have made a usable standard edition for $89, but they want you to buy the $119 pledge. It's similar to how (as with all their campaigns) they include the minis box in the gameplay pledge, even though they are totally unnecessary for gameplay...
    All that said, I've pledged for the special edition plus the add-on adventures. I do want the hardback book, so I figure I'm paying about $20 for the minis. But the important thing is that it still falls within the price range I'm willing to pay for a game of this type. And PC minis can stand out against standees - it works in Gloom/Frosthaven...

  • @dcrbdh
    @dcrbdh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pal (as in "hey buddy ole Pal") - La - din (rhymes with Bin). ..... sorry, I'll show myself out

  • @Twineandribbon
    @Twineandribbon หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been looking forward to this all year but I just have too many campaigns. Looking at selling Tanares and I did sell ISS Vanguard and Primal and those are all good games I was looking forward to about this much if not more. Campaigns man…

  • @Trips57
    @Trips57 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope someone will like me as much as you like this Arydia game.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Trips57 I hope I like Arydia as much as I think I'll like Arydia!

  • @jedisparky
    @jedisparky 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I backed Arydia already as well. This looks cool, but the crossover with Arydia leaves me out. I'll be happy with Arydia.

  • @TheYouSeven
    @TheYouSeven หลายเดือนก่อน

    You convinced me, not backing!

  • @spike2439
    @spike2439 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard truths. I might actually listen to your reason number one on this game

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spike2439 haha it had to happen sometime!

  • @gtb_pete
    @gtb_pete หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda want to hold out and pray for an ISS 2

  • @joefell5311
    @joefell5311 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate to admit your #1 point is right on, but it's right on. I have almost 500 games at hand and have not even made a dent with gameplay. That being said, I probably will back this because I'm a board game slut.

  • @magratheabuilderofworlds7141
    @magratheabuilderofworlds7141 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video - Pointing out some hurtful hometruths. Not buying it:0)

  • @MyWorldAsDylan
    @MyWorldAsDylan 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why use the title though? Backed, backed and BACKED!!!

  • @HazardGoat
    @HazardGoat หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I learned from games like Gloomhaven and My Father's Work that reading out large chunks of text to a group is the death of fun. I am considering backing Lands of Evershade but ONLY for the solo experience. I'd need to learn more about how that's going to work, though.
    Also, "Alf" is just too silly.

    • @VaultBoy13
      @VaultBoy13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "[R]eading out large chunks of text to a group is the death of fun." Especially, when most board games have bad writing.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HazardGoat yeah you really have to be in the mood for it, and I realize the times when I'm in the mood aren't that prevalent to warrant getting everything

  • @dexter_frank
    @dexter_frank หลายเดือนก่อน

    At first I thought: "Hey, wow!" But then, between hundreds of Pen&Paper-RPGs in my library and my Dungeon-Crawl-Board-Game loving neighbours downstairs, I went to: "Okay, but why?" Going to keep on playing P&P with the P&P crowd, while keeping on crawling board game dungeons with my neighbours.

  • @Tjorriemorrie
    @Tjorriemorrie หลายเดือนก่อน

    a reason should be that it is a campaign, barely any replayability

  • @brads2041
    @brads2041 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Save me Room and Board!

  • @alliroarr6180
    @alliroarr6180 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    YES! This is game in particular from AR feels like a mini cash grab because it is truly making an RPG character 10x more tactile and calling it a board game! Nemesis has the hidden traitor gimmick with card driven tactics, Tainted Grail is *nearly* this level of RPG--rip off but the card driven strategy made it a better board game. If you want this type of game just get an RPG, and I dont even mean D&D! Go for Kids on Bikes, Candela Obscura, Household, Blades in the Dark, all of these I've mentioned are dice pool systems instead of a single d20 roll like D&D so you can even get the tactile enjoyment of lots of things on the table. Just not a "board game" for me, Id rather play a larger RPG with my friends is exactly right.

  • @DarkJackMF
    @DarkJackMF หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10 minutes in...."actually I like the implementation of the keywords and you should buy the special edition for the character board covers"....lol

  • @camarodragon1
    @camarodragon1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damnit, you talked me out of it... Thanks ..

  • @dilandoalbatou7522
    @dilandoalbatou7522 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re number one reason is also my main reason to stay away from these kind of games now.
    I have so many campaign games I started and not finished yet or not even read the rules yet…
    No more campaign games until I have finished at least three of them. 🤪

  • @juvigoat2168
    @juvigoat2168 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too much on the shelf and Arydia coming. Thanks for bringing that up.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Home stretch for Arydia! I'm very excited about it :)

  • @Nozdormu1982
    @Nozdormu1982 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6. So you can back Starlock instead.

  • @Wylte
    @Wylte หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dang, #1 got me!

  • @sernln4931
    @sernln4931 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still don't understand why people are always hyping about AR's games. They look good on the shelf I guess.

  • @MS-xx3sd
    @MS-xx3sd หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really should watch more of your vids. I case of this im cured. Im not going into it.

    • @RoomandBoardReviews
      @RoomandBoardReviews  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, thanks! I try to be the voice of restraint in a sea of people often telling you how great everything is. Of course I get excited about games as well, but the reality is I certainly don't have time for everything so want to make sure when I play a game I'm really excited to get it to the table.

    • @MS-xx3sd
      @MS-xx3sd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @RoomandBoardReviews thats the point: time is too short to play average or even bad games.