I absolutely love the E series Fords. I had an ED XR6 5 speed in Polynesian green when it was about 9yrs old with under 100,000km on it. I loved that car so much. I had it about 18mo and it was totalled when a Range Rover ran a red. I previously had an EA S with a 3 speed. It was white with the red stripe, I lowered it, put on a set of 17” wheels, which in 1996 were a fucking huge wheel, and put a sports exhaust onto her and that car was just magic. So much love for the E series. I’ve just bought a BA tonner as a daily, it’s got 565,000 on it, but it’s got a BF engine gearbox and diff with about 180k on them. Same as your car, it just drives really nice, has great AC, a sweet stereo system and a steering wheel that isnt actually falling apart.
I went one better.. 97 EL xr6 factory manual licenced and very healthy, paid $1800 about a year ago and is my daily. Fun to drive, very reliable and actually quite fast. I look forward to selling it because it means an easy minimum of $5000 profit for doing nothing.
I've got an FG and FGX in "performance" variants (GS315 and G6ET). They are both stock-ish, aside from Kings/Bilstein suspension in the FG. My EB GLi with Kings/Ultima suspension has a more talkative chassis than both of the newer Falcons. The steering is super-communicative and the live axle rear is very easy to find the limit of and manage there. The FG is nowhere near as connected, the back end snaps way more aggressively and is MUCH harder to catch. The stability management in the FG has probably saved my ass on a couple of occasions, while the EB just doesn't need it. Before anyone mentions it, I know a little bit about driving a car on the limit after doing a lot of club-level competitive motorsport in cars I built and tuned myself with a reasonable amount of success. I'm not an expert, but I know how to balance/tune setups to get the best outta them and I gained a reputation in the club I competed with getting great results for minimal spend (I was referred to as the owner of team TWR-Tight Wad Racing) :) My main point is that the old E-series chassis is surprisingly capable, competent and tuneable. Putting in a little effort on alignment settings, bushes and tyre choice/pressures can produce a very rewarding drive that generates good cornering g's and massive smiles per $.
Realistically night and day difference but good to compare anyway, I’d happily own both again, had an EF XR6 green manual years ago and a 15 turbo manual Ute till it got t-boned by a stop sign runner, Luv my falcons and now getting into the XD’s and AU’s! Still luv the 200 mate, Merry Mew years and all that jazz! 👌👍👍👍🎄
Merry Christmas Nathan & Peter! Up the Falcons! Just drove Syd to Batemans Bay and back (2.5 hours each way) in my BA xr6 real good power delivery & comfort
If you replace the front end bushes, ball joints, tie rod ends, rack ends, shocks and get a wheel alignment it will drive like a new car I guarantee that.
My work car was an FG and honest to god, I wouldn’t buy an FG. It feels like a mid sized car inside. The tunnel for your legs is really tight compared to the BA BF and I’m just not comfortable in them for long drives ( typically i do 500-800km a night) where as in my BA I don’t feel like that.
With the FGX if you still have it fit an exterior oil cooler for the ZF tranny for if the oil and coolant mix that's the tranny stuffed and it can't be fixed. A new tranny will cost you 10K+. You could also do it for the EF if you still have that for Ford routed the oil pipes through the base of the radiator on both cars. Many Falcon owners have fitted exterior tranny oil coolers for peace of mind. On my FG G6E as soon as the warranty expired I fitted an exterior oil cooler for the 6 speed ZF and that was over ten years ago. I just didn't want the ZF milkshake.
I have a 98 NL Fairlane on LPG as a daily driver and a FGX XR6 ute in the shed just so I can keep kms under 100k , I love driving both of for different reasons, and a ZL Fairlane unreg with 106k in showroom condition. one day I will sell the Fairlanes but never the FGX
Love the video! If you ever want to make a comparison video between a vf sv6 and the fgx xr6, I’d be happy to offer my car. You’d be surprised how comfortable the later gen commodores are!
Still can't wait to you tidy up the outside, good polish and some clear on some spots, will come up mint.. not like a red Mazda 323 paint that's fallen off 👍
My old man had several Falcons consecutively - XE, EA, EF, BF and FG. He always said the BF was a massive improvement over the EF (obviously he skipped the AU)
@@rwd323 it's not the 4 spd. Drivelines all mid range yawn🥱. Its the seating position or something? + decent cup holder's! They sure hold some roadgrime. Saves buying lower springs I guess. Fuel economy is shot
Gee I enjoyed that fella's...I own a 2001 AU ll Futura and a 2008 FG XR6 ...LOVE THEM BOTH EQUALLY ...different reasons but the AU is an absolute joy to cruise in and it's so comfortable.. The FG has the ZF 6 speed sequential sports shift and is awesome to drive ..going up in value too ..In 2016 I paid $12,000 for it ...Averaging high teens thousands now on Cars Sales like about $18,000 plus for a good one N/A like mine and $24,000 for the turbo ...great cars all round .
Young people used to give big Fords the wide berth, now they're into them. What different times we live in. I was always in favour of them over Holdens.
@@andrewg2618 took long enough. I think it's the turbo barra cult that started it and they want to buy into it's status, similar to why young people got Subarus of any sort because of the association with the WRX.
I call Bullshit! Citroen was the only car brand blue tacked all over every inch of your childhood bedroom walls & the ceiling above your pillow position. 🤣😆🤪 Roll On Citroen... was your favourite saying?
FG-X has fancy led running lights up the front. Thats About the only fancy part on it. Hides the fugly nose section & sets it apart from a Mondeo looking heap of shizzz. I've had these Falcons as company utes covering 100,000km min in every model from XG up XH AU BA BF BF2 FG-X utes. FG-X was XR-6 spec. Others were Tradesman pack spec. AU is the Pick of the lot. Best to drive. Seating position is different or something, less road noise. Only cup holder design that holds your large cup properly. Fg-X cup holder is designed to tip a large cup out completely out, empty.. ice n all in your lap.. first corner after drive thru with satanic accuracy. Nothing too special on the last fg-x turning circle is XF spec, traction control button that has to be fingered 3x smashing rapidly to make the switch work like a normal switch should. By then your frigging bogged in my yard. Stupid idea. Why even have the bloody thing if worried someone will turn traction cuntroll off?? Still better ute than a pos Ranger Danger. Those uncomfortable floaty slow shitboxes don't even have lumber adjustment or support on drivers seat. The seats are 82 KB laser spec aka the same. But laser are more comfortable
I bought a Lemans red EF XR6. Soon became traded when they released the EL Fairmont Ghia. Unfortunately the EL was stolen by the legal arm of the courts system commonly called the divorce settlement.
I absolutely love the E series Fords. I had an ED XR6 5 speed in Polynesian green when it was about 9yrs old with under 100,000km on it. I loved that car so much. I had it about 18mo and it was totalled when a Range Rover ran a red. I previously had an EA S with a 3 speed. It was white with the red stripe, I lowered it, put on a set of 17” wheels, which in 1996 were a fucking huge wheel, and put a sports exhaust onto her and that car was just magic. So much love for the E series. I’ve just bought a BA tonner as a daily, it’s got 565,000 on it, but it’s got a BF engine gearbox and diff with about 180k on them. Same as your car, it just drives really nice, has great AC, a sweet stereo system and a steering wheel that isnt actually falling apart.
Thanks guys
I own the older falcon, but you know what it drives pretty well and I'm taking care of it👍!!!
I went one better.. 97 EL xr6 factory manual licenced and very healthy, paid $1800 about a year ago and is my daily.
Fun to drive, very reliable and actually quite fast.
I look forward to selling it because it means an easy minimum of $5000 profit for doing nothing.
I've got an FG and FGX in "performance" variants (GS315 and G6ET). They are both stock-ish, aside from Kings/Bilstein suspension in the FG. My EB GLi with Kings/Ultima suspension has a more talkative chassis than both of the newer Falcons. The steering is super-communicative and the live axle rear is very easy to find the limit of and manage there. The FG is nowhere near as connected, the back end snaps way more aggressively and is MUCH harder to catch. The stability management in the FG has probably saved my ass on a couple of occasions, while the EB just doesn't need it.
Before anyone mentions it, I know a little bit about driving a car on the limit after doing a lot of club-level competitive motorsport in cars I built and tuned myself with a reasonable amount of success. I'm not an expert, but I know how to balance/tune setups to get the best outta them and I gained a reputation in the club I competed with getting great results for minimal spend (I was referred to as the owner of team TWR-Tight Wad Racing) :)
My main point is that the old E-series chassis is surprisingly capable, competent and tuneable. Putting in a little effort on alignment settings, bushes and tyre choice/pressures can produce a very rewarding drive that generates good cornering g's and massive smiles per $.
Realistically night and day difference but good to compare anyway, I’d happily own both again, had an EF XR6 green manual years ago and a 15 turbo manual Ute till it got t-boned by a stop sign runner, Luv my falcons and now getting into the XD’s and AU’s! Still luv the 200 mate, Merry Mew years and all that jazz! 👌👍👍👍🎄
Ayyyy Nathan, watch you get to Rex's level bro just watch. BEST OF LUCK MAN
Merry Christmas Nathan & Peter! Up the Falcons! Just drove Syd to Batemans Bay and back (2.5 hours each way) in my BA xr6 real good power delivery & comfort
Merry Xmas Mate!
Great video guys enjoy your style of delivery & dry wit. Would like to see more comparisons done on Aussie cars of any era if you can.
If you replace the front end bushes, ball joints, tie rod ends, rack ends, shocks and get a wheel alignment it will drive like a new car I guarantee that.
My work car was an FG and honest to god, I wouldn’t buy an FG. It feels like a mid sized car inside. The tunnel for your legs is really tight compared to the BA BF and I’m just not comfortable in them for long drives ( typically i do 500-800km a night) where as in my BA I don’t feel like that.
I'd take the EF xr6 any day
With the FGX if you still have it fit an exterior oil cooler for the ZF tranny for if the oil and coolant mix that's the tranny stuffed and it can't be fixed. A new tranny will cost you 10K+. You could also do it for the EF if you still have that for Ford routed the oil pipes through the base of the radiator on both cars. Many Falcon owners have fitted exterior tranny oil coolers for peace of mind.
On my FG G6E as soon as the warranty expired I fitted an exterior oil cooler for the 6 speed ZF and that was over ten years ago. I just didn't want the ZF milkshake.
I have a 98 NL Fairlane on LPG as a daily driver and a FGX XR6 ute in the shed just so I can keep kms under 100k , I love driving both of for different reasons, and a ZL Fairlane unreg with 106k in showroom condition. one day I will sell the Fairlanes but never the FGX
That seller was completely dreaming asking 6500 for it,not running and had a stuffed gearbox which he more then likely would of known
Love the video! If you ever want to make a comparison video between a vf sv6 and the fgx xr6, I’d be happy to offer my car. You’d be surprised how comfortable the later gen commodores are!
Think he's already got a vid on the vf sv6
Mine ute looks the same as the red sedan , bought it in 2005 for under 12,000 96 model , i still have it XH XR6
In my opiniom, period correct ( factory or aftermarket) rims on the EF would make a difference in looks & handling
Great content mate ,very impressed on they way you explain detail ,cant wait for the next one
I remember going from my ed xr6 into a 6sp FG xr6. I was very impressed with the FG 9 years ago I traded it on the spot and paid the rest off
Back in the day the EF or EL XR6 was competitive on the track.
Merry Christmas Mate!
Still can't wait to you tidy up the outside, good polish and some clear on some spots, will come up mint.. not like a red Mazda 323 paint that's fallen off 👍
Aw, your EF is missing the Tickford intake snorkel. The most popular mod in the world back in the good ol days (for non Tickford cars).
Not to mention that the lpi has the same rods and crank as the f6310. Strong motors..
Incorrect LPI has STD rods, piston and crank.
Gee mad video bro, you’re definitely gonna be a TH-cam sensation
fuck the inside looks so goof after the clean!!!! good job bro
I think the gbox is a Chinese ZF 6HP21 , German made were the 6HP26
Yessir you are correct I got the Chinese ZF 🤣 has towed heaps of cars with no issues so far
My base FGX has the 6HP26, my son's BF XT has the same 6HP26
@@jimclarke1108 Some NA FGX utes got a 6HP26
@@ET5150 All FGX with auto are 6HP26
RAJAB PLENIUM AND CAST TURBO MANIFOLD COMING?
What do you mean the tickford head is a factory option? They're in all ef xr6
And 96 model ute I have one Xh
My old man had several Falcons consecutively - XE, EA, EF, BF and FG. He always said the BF was a massive improvement over the EF (obviously he skipped the AU)
AU Has best cup holder's & Drives better.
@@DoctorWEBB Better than what?
@@rwd323 Fg-x
@@DoctorWEBB yeah of course, the 4 speed makes them drive amazingly
@@rwd323 it's not the 4 spd. Drivelines all mid range yawn🥱.
Its the seating position or something?
+ decent cup holder's! They sure hold some roadgrime. Saves buying lower springs I guess. Fuel economy is shot
Gee I enjoyed that fella's...I own a 2001 AU ll Futura and a 2008 FG XR6 ...LOVE THEM BOTH EQUALLY ...different reasons but the AU is an absolute joy to cruise in and it's so comfortable.. The FG has the ZF 6 speed sequential sports shift and is awesome to drive ..going up in value too ..In 2016 I paid $12,000 for it ...Averaging high teens thousands now on Cars Sales like about $18,000 plus for a good one N/A like mine and $24,000 for the turbo ...great cars all round .
Both awesome cars !!
You need the original style wheels on it next
Enjoying🎉
It would have been cool for you to state the similarities even if they could be obvious, excellent comparison otherwise
Young people used to give big Fords the wide berth, now they're into them. What different times we live in. I was always in favour of them over Holdens.
People are working out how good they really are.
@@andrewg2618 took long enough. I think it's the turbo barra cult that started it and they want to buy into it's status, similar to why young people got Subarus of any sort because of the association with the WRX.
I call Bullshit!
Citroen was the only car brand blue tacked all over every inch of your childhood bedroom walls & the ceiling above your pillow position. 🤣😆🤪 Roll On Citroen... was your favourite saying?
@@DoctorWEBB Kathy Ireland was my choice in the early 1990s
@@jamesfrench7299 hope you had A/C...be like a sauna otherwise...☺️💦
The transmission in the naturally aspirated FGX is built in China
so Victoria is where the last of the bargains are!
aint that a fgx? and the normal fgs look different?
FG-X has fancy led running lights up the front.
Thats About the only fancy part on it. Hides the fugly nose section & sets it apart from a Mondeo looking heap of shizzz. I've had these Falcons as company utes covering 100,000km min in every model from XG up XH AU BA BF BF2 FG-X utes. FG-X was XR-6 spec. Others were Tradesman pack spec.
AU is the Pick of the lot. Best to drive. Seating position is different or something, less road noise. Only cup holder design that holds your large cup properly. Fg-X cup holder is designed to tip a large cup out completely out,
empty.. ice n all in your lap..
first corner after drive thru with satanic accuracy.
Nothing too special on the last
fg-x turning circle is XF spec, traction control button that has to be fingered 3x smashing rapidly to make the switch work like a normal switch should. By then your frigging bogged in my yard.
Stupid idea. Why even have the bloody thing if worried someone will turn traction cuntroll off??
Still better ute than a pos Ranger Danger. Those uncomfortable floaty slow shitboxes don't even have lumber adjustment or support on drivers seat. The seats are 82 KB laser spec aka the same. But laser are more comfortable
FGX owner got ripped got a ve ss for that price under 100 tho km
the EF is a higher build quality and won't fall apart in a few years like the shit box fg
Nothing quite like driving a shit old car 😂
I bought a Lemans red EF XR6. Soon became traded when they released the EL Fairmont Ghia. Unfortunately the EL was stolen by the legal arm of the courts system commonly called the divorce settlement.
Fgx xr6 never had a German gearbox lol
The commodores are probably more comfortably and have a better front seating position fords are to high
Sohc just sohc
Doosh
Those fgx rims are soft as compared to the other rims ford sold for the fg falcons.
the e series falcon are not respected at all.
EFs handle shit because they're EFs
3k for an eh xr6🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruh wouldn't pay $500 for that shitbox
Not running too 😂
Probably get 1k for the front end alone
@@beyondbackwater4933 for real
EF please 😃