Things As They Really Are | David A. Bednar | 2009

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  • Elder Bednar warns against the potentially stifling, suffocating, suppressing, and constraining impact of some kinds of cyberspace interactions and experiences upon our souls. When we distance ourselves from relationships, covenants, and the physical body in an online virtual reality, we lose sight of things as they really are.
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    David A. Bednar was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when this CES fireside address was delivered on 3 May 2009.
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  • @tedmunford2234
    @tedmunford2234 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Listening to this in 2023. Could this man be any more prophetic? What a message. I can't believe it was given 10 years ago.

    • @heartbea8101
      @heartbea8101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree!

    • @benjaminschmidt8570
      @benjaminschmidt8570 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      14 years ago! And here we are, at the dawn (supposedly) of the metaverse....

    • @IsabellaFerreira-mg7jv
      @IsabellaFerreira-mg7jv ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!

    • @Greenpoptartover9000
      @Greenpoptartover9000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I’m saying! I love it!

    • @CelticValkryer
      @CelticValkryer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is so true ❤ I will always treasure this talk for my life even though I was 3 when it was given

  • @AnitaThompson-kc5wt
    @AnitaThompson-kc5wt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amen, everything he said is true,I enjoy listening to him what a man of god, as I am soon becoming a member of church of the Latter Day saints my days have been reading and gospil library to these videos Thank you Elder Bedner, your a Blessing to us

  • @leswalker2639
    @leswalker2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Could you imagine if everyone had a free psychiatrist and counseling session like we have. Other people have to pay big dollars for this type of counseling. What a excellent talk. We Call our counselors Apostles and Prophets

    • @noskalborg723
      @noskalborg723 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We impart the word without money and without price. And oh how sweet it is.

    • @brianbeaubien7371
      @brianbeaubien7371 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen

    • @irinas3513
      @irinas3513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's so incredibly wrong. No one can replace a counselor, let alone a psychiatrist. Apostles and Prophets are the spiritual leaders in this Church, they are not doctors and can not replace the medical help of qualified professionals.

    • @MindSlide2012
      @MindSlide2012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree to an extent.
      Life altering bodily disabilities is traumatic. That takes therapy

    • @johnhumble4240
      @johnhumble4240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯 correct
      I’ve been thinking the same thing for about 20 years
      And I love it and I need it !!!
      Ty for mentioning that
      It shows how much human beings intrinsically share this spiritual journey in a physically body 😊

  • @nuthintoprove
    @nuthintoprove ปีที่แล้ว +6

    classic example of the need for Apostles of Jesus Christ, proclaiming a warning of tough times to come and the antidote. Every word was and came to be true and is even more critical today.

  • @laurenloertscher1319
    @laurenloertscher1319 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Listened to this a few months ago, but listening again it hits just as hard at different parts. This man is a servent of God, people. He speaks truth.

  • @noskalborg723
    @noskalborg723 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    People need to heed this message more these days.

  • @kasondow
    @kasondow ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “The body and spirit constitute our reality and identity. When body and spirit are inseparably connected, we can receive a fullness of joy. When they are separated, we cannot receive a fullness of joy.”
    WOW. I never understood exactly why Satan has put so much emphasis on attacking “gender identity” and leading people to mutilating their bodies through gender transformation until I heard this

  • @natandjoec
    @natandjoec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    One of my favorite apostles. I had the opportunity of meeting him a few times during my time at BYUI when he was the president there. While listening to a routine Tuesday devotional, where he happened to be the speaker that day, I distinctly received the impression that he would be an apostle one day. Within the year he had retired from president of byui and was called to be an apostle.

    • @AngelicHelper
      @AngelicHelper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was my 15th and he went to number 1 after seeing his QnA

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton ปีที่แล้ว

      What an incredible testimony!!

    • @janwolf843
      @janwolf843 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We also were able to listen to a talk of his when our daughter attended BYU-I. My husband and I both strongly felt he would become an apostle one day. Like you, about six months later, he was called to be an apostle. What a fine man he is.

  • @Hatchumosc1
    @Hatchumosc1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think this applies to more than just technology and cyberspace. I think even just reading the wrong kind of books in the wrong kind of mindset or letting our fantasies get to us in any manner is also very applicable.

  • @TheSteakshake
    @TheSteakshake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Revelation is real. Elder Bednar's revelatory words are more relevant today than when they were given in 2012. How many more are still lost in the virtual world today after the lockdowns, and how many more will be lost to the even higher fidelity brought by Meta? Very inspiring message.

    • @leswalker2639
      @leswalker2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Elder Bednar brings out that very issue why many people fall through the sifter. I see several issues in my life I have to correct. What a powerful talk.

    • @kevincantrell8109
      @kevincantrell8109 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Amen, Good insights. Hugs and prayers 🙏

    • @brucerossel5716
      @brucerossel5716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even more relevant today than in 2012. A modern classic discourse.

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton ปีที่แล้ว

      This was given in 2009!!!! It's crazy how long ago, yet how recent it feels.

    • @GIJoe-wu6bo
      @GIJoe-wu6bo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No expiration date for truth from god.

  • @EricLDS
    @EricLDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ironically I watched this virtually

    • @piqey
      @piqey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankfully, as mentioned in the speech, there must be opposition in all things (positive uses of technology and negative uses of technology)

  • @nancykasaya2713
    @nancykasaya2713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This looks like a message given today despite the fact that it was given 10yrs ago.Very educative

  • @edwineffiong9690
    @edwineffiong9690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How grateful I am to have talks like this in TH-cam!
    Our bodies is a gift that allows us make the most of mortality.

    • @byuspeeches
      @byuspeeches  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally; our bodies are gifts from God! Thanks for watching!

  • @danielroque657
    @danielroque657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you Elder Bednar! I could see read and listen again this beautiful message. Sometimes I speak with some about what I learned. Greetings from Tablada de Lurin, Lima, Perú

  • @Jessica-px4gz
    @Jessica-px4gz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    What powerful insights this Apostle of God has shared with us!!!

  • @chloeprit
    @chloeprit ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What he mentioned about technology in this talk came true. When I was growing up, I enjoyed making relationships in the real world. I felt the joy of talking to people the same age as me and with others too, until I discovered virtual reality. As I grew a bit older, I've noticed that the more I socialise virutally/play games or spend more time in cyberspace for hours on end, the more I just ignore the real world completely. I'm now 18 and I lost the feeling of making friends as I did back then. I'm now finding it hard to socialise with others because my mind has focused too much in the virtual world.

    • @sheralynmadsen9975
      @sheralynmadsen9975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank for sharing your story

    • @LisaPFrampton
      @LisaPFrampton ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm so sorry to hear how this has played out for you. What a testimony you share with personal experience!
      I pray you consider serving a full-time mission soon, if you aren't already.
      It's the best way to bring you back into the real world, meet and make lasting friendships, or at the least help you relearn and re-experiance learning how to and gaining lasting friendships.

    • @chloeprit
      @chloeprit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LisaPFrampton im actually in that deciding stage now. im excited to serve for 18 months. :D

    • @chloeprit
      @chloeprit ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sheralynmadsen9975 no problem at all. :)

  • @sophiat2058
    @sophiat2058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Such an amazing and relevant talk for this day

  • @carlitopablero988
    @carlitopablero988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So very peaceful when we align God's plan

  • @mcswizz9609
    @mcswizz9609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Wow, this talk touched so personally to me. And made so clear, small and large, changes I think my internal self has been nudging at me to make for a while.

  • @karleenlamborn987
    @karleenlamborn987 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Bro Bednar!!!

    • @jc-oe5jx
      @jc-oe5jx ปีที่แล้ว

      He is an apostle of the Lord ok

  • @novawarren5089
    @novawarren5089 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He reminds me of some body in my family and I love them very much.
    So, happy for each video I get to see of his, Apostle David Bendar💙💛❤️📖🙏

  • @stephanielow8292
    @stephanielow8292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prophets, seers and revelatory are a gift from God.

  • @timothyhudson7999
    @timothyhudson7999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am sincerely grateful for this technology which provides me with a virtual opportunity to listen to a fireside that I never would have otherwise been able to be a part of.

  • @firstamerican2
    @firstamerican2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When we speak and listen by the spirit we receive guidance and counseling as to the here and now And as to things to come.

  • @pamweinberg1212
    @pamweinberg1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you.

  • @albertoreubenreyes
    @albertoreubenreyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for this timely message!

  • @CelticValkryer
    @CelticValkryer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I’m old enough to go to BYU I’ll be able to go with my best friend ❤ this message will help me a lot because even though I’m not on my phone a lot it will help me to continue to not be addicted to it ❤

  • @EricLDS
    @EricLDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Got to see Bednar cry finally. What a great guy

    • @leswalker2639
      @leswalker2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bursting out crying is different then getting choked up when the spirit touches your heart. When you speak and the spirit touches your heart, this is the greatest teaching moment because it touches the heart of those who heirs these great words, that will pierce the heart with power, joy and Truth all at the same time. Now once you have felt truth you can never deny it.

    • @rhajjjify
      @rhajjjify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Elder Bednar

  • @leonardreynolds2268
    @leonardreynolds2268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have shared this many times and loved this talk!

  • @logantronsen
    @logantronsen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Listening to this in 2024, seeing how all this applies to the AI revolution.

  • @novawarren5089
    @novawarren5089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all of the Apostles current and past, just want to understand and grow rich with each one of them, this is New Year's Eve and see my fun, I go back and watch the Apostles and learn
    Prophets and as many as possible
    Love them all
    Maybe we can get to be like "Little Children', just as Jesus said"

  • @ytsur549
    @ytsur549 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing talk from one of my favorite apostles.

  • @amandadangerfieldpiano
    @amandadangerfieldpiano ปีที่แล้ว +4

    30:53 "For your happiness and protection, I invite you to study more diligently..."

  • @coreycheng9926
    @coreycheng9926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you

  • @carrievigil3023
    @carrievigil3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am glad to hear these gospel, information, I feel inspired, to let my family know, I ask Jesus Christ for repentance, daily, because I almost gave up, due, to husband leaving , drinking to find out why he found others more, we was married in temple, , almost, would have been me, , thank you,

    • @lindamoses3697
      @lindamoses3697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bless your heart. I had to divorce a husband and it was so difficult but the Lord blessed us though at the time I could not see it because the pain was so great.

    • @leswalker2639
      @leswalker2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When our marriage is falling apart, so many decisions can creep in. Staying focused on the gospel principles will help tremendously. Stay away from Blaine. This is the time we seem to always look back on this journey of marriage after it has become a problem. How many red flags we ignored and didn't see because of our blindness. It takes both parties to recognize these red flags and be willing to pray for guidance and correct them before it's too late. Number 1 stay away from judging. First comes disappointment of your spouse and then anger, then hatred. Number 2 repentance is the key to happiness. Repentance will open up a new opportunity for you to be strengthened by the mighty hand of the Lord. Just be careful, when you speak to people, use your words carefully, so you do not cause someone else to judge and condemn your spouse and that goes for the children also. You don't want someone to have to repent for the words you have spoken and anger . When advice is given , do it with a prayer and discernment . Staying close to the Lord and listening to Elder Bednar speak, it sure helps. A word of caution, when you come to the point of being overwhelmed, and you will. Most importantly this is the time you consume yourself in Humble prayer. We seem to think we can do it all ourselves, don't lie to yourself. Call up pond your gracious Heavenly Father for help. You have done everything in your power to make things right and I cannot do it anymore. I need your gracious hand to take this load from me, I can't do it anymore. Please take this load, for my Lord said, his yoke is easy. I am willing to hand everything over to you, just lead and guide me with your wisdom. And whatever else you want to say, in the name of Jesus Christ. Knowing in your heart, it will now all be taken care of with no doubt. I have a testimony of this I speak about. Be grateful you have this learning experience. Keep a prayer in your heart at all times during the day. Like the Lord said, love one another as I have loved you! Thank you for sharing.

  • @ChaplinHawkeye
    @ChaplinHawkeye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have not become trapped by what he shared here but it IS frightening what can happen to people as they seek to escape life. Some things that are difficult to undergo can to be faced and dealt with rather than trying to run away from by the media, pleasure and drugs, etc. I'd rather know what is happening than be deceived and led down a garden path. Reality can be dealt with, even if slowly. Deception does not get any better!

    • @leswalker2639
      @leswalker2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is great to have the leadership inspiring us to hang onto the rod everyday, even in desperate things of the world always trying to intertwined with our everyday activity.

    • @pintopeterh7193
      @pintopeterh7193 ปีที่แล้ว

      All i have to do is to b me

  • @GIJoe-wu6bo
    @GIJoe-wu6bo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God's truth has no expiration date.

  • @skyhiker9669
    @skyhiker9669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Turn away immediately.”

  • @LynetteBRobinson
    @LynetteBRobinson ปีที่แล้ว

    Elder Oaks called tattooing and excessive piercing as “pagan practices.” Many people see nothing wrong with it but although I try to see past them to the person, The Spirit testifies loudly. This is the same as when I witness any act or idea that is against God’s laws. I am so grateful for those who aren’t afraid to stand for truth. Bless you, dear brother Bednar.

    • @jc-oe5jx
      @jc-oe5jx ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen ok your body is a temple ok

  • @OneDayAtATime365
    @OneDayAtATime365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥

  • @AlejandroMadrid-tn1gp
    @AlejandroMadrid-tn1gp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think he is prophesying about the dangers now as well as in the coming AI revolution.

  • @chadluke5454
    @chadluke5454 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can affirm that lucifer hates families and individuals; that means that he hates YOU. And, he will do everything that he can to desecrate that which is sacred. He delights in and glories in that which is FILTHY and IMPURE.

  • @keleniengaluafe2600
    @keleniengaluafe2600 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ildenete3235
    @ildenete3235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As escolhas levam para diferentes impressões. A impressão desconfortável agora, acordando, de descendo, como descendo alguns degraus, parece perturbador para você? Não há quem possa compreender essas diferenças e saber mais do que ontem sobre Cristo? Se sentir culpado ou inocente não importa e sim como se sente essas impressões as quais, são muito mais fortes do que qualquer julgamento da ignorância dos homens mortais e o amor que Deus senti por eles é infinitamente maior e mais forte.
    Veja, não pode ver aqui, meu cachorro adentrou na sala, veio até a mim de cabeça e rabo abaixados, como os cachorros fazem pedindo atenção e as mesmas coisas de ontem. Não se lembra mais? Se esqueci nessa vida? E o descanso onde está? Não há o descanso ?
    Ah! Senhor volte! Faça nos viver uma nova vida! Como um dia sem fim.
    Tu que cumpres as Tuas promessas e vê Senhor dos Reis! O Senhor que cumpre as promessas! diante dos olhos, e vive humildimente e teme somente a Ti, súplica Te.

  • @tylerchristensen1484
    @tylerchristensen1484 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s rather ironic that I was listening to this while playing a video game.

    • @user-ec6vf7zq9j
      @user-ec6vf7zq9j หลายเดือนก่อน

      same! I wanted to know where to draw the line for the games I'll let my future-children play

  • @debradalton5755
    @debradalton5755 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:12 - warning

  • @ira_zhena
    @ira_zhena ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:30

  • @zissler1
    @zissler1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kim b Clark sounds a lot more high pitched

  • @angelalewis3645
    @angelalewis3645 ปีที่แล้ว

    This

  • @EricLDS
    @EricLDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No teleprompter here right?

    • @EricLDS
      @EricLDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow

    • @EricLDS
      @EricLDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its memorized talks

  • @ira_zhena
    @ira_zhena ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:10