That 10 must of bein 40 inches wide. great spread for a wap. Just laking length, hard to assume if he would get better he had the mature swag look on him
What age did it come back it at? Guessing its 5 maby 6 at a stretch years old and well off the 7-8 you said earlier in the video which the foundation wants you taking
Cant remember as it was 10 years ago. (Stag) was very small and a lot more Red than wap as you can see in the antler formation. While I passed on it my son was more than happy to shoot it and hangs on his wall fully mounted and not hanging in the rafters out in the shed. My good man you have obviously spent some time in Fiordland and that is very commendable. I myself have done 8 trips over the years and have now given up on it as getting a decent trophy is more of a dream than reality. I've pulled the trigger 3 times. A 40+ inch 12 in the Luger with Greg Duley that was a glorified Red. A big 11 in Canyon creek that had no wap configuration at all and the cull I shot in Kakapo. I've found more than a few that have been "rolled over the bank" when it wasn't as big as the shooter thought when pulling the trigger. Kakapo had far too many animals when I was there. The valley floor was eaten out where they spend the winter and snow blankets the tops.
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 I haven’t hunted any Wapiti in fiordland only reds around Manapouri. Still haven’t been pulled for a ballot yet. So you definitely have more experience than me in that front. I grew up shooting for the table with dad and trophy hunting is lot newer to me. Im at stage of learning to age on stags, bulls and bull tahr. Reading all articles from duleys, videos on age, and stuff on point south and trying incorporate it into my hunting. Its helped as me and my father have left a lot of animals we would have shot a few years ago. Got rewarded with a nice touch off 40” 11 red and a nice 12” bull from the coast for so I haven’t shot any good trophies minus a really old horn rot buck from the perth. Being in Canada now and seeing proper big mature elk will hopefully help me in knowing what is a shooter and isn’t. I wasn’t trying be an ass when I was writing about age of your sons bull, I was hoping you had the age and could have educated me on what I aged it at, why it was shot and why it was its age on body characteristics. Lesson for me on being more tactful. Thanks for the reply regardless.
@@livetoofish Its luck ran out with a better hunter maybe? Nothing says it would have ever got better, and it might be anything up to in its prime. Correct aging analysis is needed to confirm it, hybrid head configuration affects it .
Good effort and good filming. It's really interesting to see the changes in the different places over time. Good footage of the forest interior and some clearings would enhance it, the habitat variation topic. Plus be a "snapshot" record. Many filmers don't show the country and vegetation well, and don't realise how boring their efforts are. The area is well overpopulated with deer still for effective conservation, it would make sense to make useful effort in some catchments. Cost would limit the extent realistic, so do a few properly for F&B might achieve something constructive as well as farming noxious animals in National Parks.
Tough audience out there Mr Philpott, young stag or old who cares when you get weather like that, was the stag a pure breed wapiti? id say not so isn't it best culled out for what the wap genius foundation is trying to achieve?, run a pole & i bet 8 out of 10 hunters would have shot it too. To you both well done & a top head for NZ standards
Yes you right about the audience. Seem to be plenty "experts" out there now. It was far from being a pure bred wap. Very small in body no bigger than a good Red. Antler configuration was Red but obviously had wap blood but not a lot
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 Still a big 12 pointer that's going on the wall. With significantly wap type coat and antlers, likely as wap as anything that side of the hill, & possibly throughout. .
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 Most seem to think music enhances their video skills. It's like many of the statements commonly made, better left elsewhere
Thank you for an interesting video by an experienced hunter
Cool video man 👍
Awesome video mate.
That 10 must of bein 40 inches wide. great spread for a wap. Just laking length, hard to assume if he would get better he had the mature swag look on him
Kinda get over music videos after a while.
What age did it come back it at? Guessing its 5 maby 6 at a stretch years old and well off the 7-8 you said earlier in the video which the foundation wants you taking
Cant remember as it was 10 years ago. (Stag) was very small and a lot more Red than wap as you can see in the antler formation. While I passed on it my son was more than happy to shoot it and hangs on his wall fully mounted and not hanging in the rafters out in the shed. My good man you have obviously spent some time in Fiordland and that is very commendable. I myself have done 8 trips over the years and have now given up on it as getting a decent trophy is more of a dream than reality. I've pulled the trigger 3 times. A 40+ inch 12 in the Luger with Greg Duley that was a glorified Red. A big 11 in Canyon creek that had no wap configuration at all and the cull I shot in Kakapo. I've found more than a few that have been "rolled over the bank" when it wasn't as big as the shooter thought when pulling the trigger. Kakapo had far too many animals when I was there. The valley floor was eaten out where they spend the winter and snow blankets the tops.
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 I haven’t hunted any Wapiti in fiordland only reds around Manapouri. Still haven’t been pulled for a ballot yet. So you definitely have more experience than me in that front. I grew up shooting for the table with dad and trophy hunting is lot newer to me. Im at stage of learning to age on stags, bulls and bull tahr. Reading all articles from duleys, videos on age, and stuff on point south and trying incorporate it into my hunting. Its helped as me and my father have left a lot of animals we would have shot a few years ago. Got rewarded with a nice touch off 40” 11 red and a nice 12” bull from the coast for so I haven’t shot any good trophies minus a really old horn rot buck from the perth. Being in Canada now and seeing proper big mature elk will hopefully help me in knowing what is a shooter and isn’t. I wasn’t trying be an ass when I was writing about age of your sons bull, I was hoping you had the age and could have educated me on what I aged it at, why it was shot and why it was its age on body characteristics. Lesson for me on being more tactful. Thanks for the reply regardless.
Shame about that 12, another two or three years and he would have been a nice mature bull.
Prob best to leave "culling" removing animals from gene pool to people who know what they are talking about next time ae
Thank you for your comment. My good man I've let more stags/bulls walk than you could ever imagine
How old was that nice 12 that was shot?
3.5 to 4.5 is my guess
@@timjones5930 Knew the guys that shared the block with these people, they let this young 12 pt bull walk.
@@livetoofish Its luck ran out with a better hunter maybe? Nothing says it would have ever got better, and it might be anything up to in its prime. Correct aging analysis is needed to confirm it, hybrid head configuration affects it .
No the ethical hunters left it to grow. Needed a good few more years to mature.
sweet ol timer
Far out that 10pt was wide as!
Good effort and good filming. It's really interesting to see the changes in the different places over time. Good footage of the forest interior and some clearings would enhance it, the habitat variation topic. Plus be a "snapshot" record. Many filmers don't show the country and vegetation well, and don't realise how boring their efforts are.
The area is well overpopulated with deer still for effective conservation, it would make sense to make useful effort in some catchments. Cost would limit the extent realistic, so do a few properly for F&B might achieve something constructive as well as farming noxious animals in National Parks.
Tough audience out there Mr Philpott, young stag or old who cares when you get weather like that, was the stag a pure breed wapiti? id say not so isn't it best culled out for what the wap genius foundation is trying to achieve?, run a pole & i bet 8 out of 10 hunters would have shot it too. To you both well done & a top head for NZ standards
Yes you right about the audience. Seem to be plenty "experts" out there now. It was far from being a pure bred wap. Very small in body no bigger than a good Red. Antler configuration was Red but obviously had wap blood but not a lot
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 Still a big 12 pointer that's going on the wall.
With significantly wap type coat and antlers, likely as wap as anything that side of the hill, & possibly throughout. .
Nice animal but the video sound track sux
I know but any decent music has copyright attached
@@neilphilpott-sikahuntingsa5784 Most seem to think music enhances their video skills. It's like many of the statements commonly made, better left elsewhere
Bunch of whingers in here , must be ausies.