I think this material would be good for a spiritual school on TH-cam. Humans need a school. TH-cam is a great media (for now). Self Remembering has changed my life forever. A whole universe of expansion of Being! Keep Working and thank you for your vital material.
Thank you my friend! Glad you found the video valuable. Gurdjieff has impacted my life a great deal too. Good to have you with us in on this journey! 😊🙏
An african proverb of Fela Kuti sais: "If you stand still, you will burn..if you walk you will hear!" An other westafrican proverb says "Si tu connais toimeme tu connais Dieu."
Happy to hear that my friend. There is a whole commentary playlist if you haven’t seen it. Here is the link: th-cam.com/play/PL0L0onrHik1u-0fd-jptjGpK_qXmOdQgw.html&si=ReaOAy0TQGMlvLtz
I loved the” real world is hidden from him by a wall of his imagination”… His past is in his imagination. His future is in his imagination, and therefore are not real, he cannot see what is real, he is blind to his own omnipotence, his omnipresence Therefore, he is a dangerous creature, harming himself, and those around him with his imagination which informs his behaviors… He believes in his man-made identity… I’m trying to get off the pendulum of desire versus aversion, myself… I consider it a spell of sorts, a trap, a learned trap … I remember in one of the last chapters of the book… Openskys says “I had not yet learned to receive“ and I thought this was so powerful and profound… And when I listened to you read part of chapter 8, I guess it is our own “wall of imagination“ blocking our receivership of the truth of who we really are… Have a blessed day and thank you for this… Love and light to all
Hey Lisa. You are very welcome. I agree, a lot has to be digested and understood in order to progress, and imagination is a big obstacle along the way. Identification is also a big one. I plan to make more videos of this kind as we move through ISOM and I hope you will come for the ride. 😀🙏
Fools Gold🎭I really appreciate your Time & Efforts to elucidate these Glittering Glimpses of GI Gurdjieff's ideas as documented by Ouspensky... AI for Prophets not Profits🃏
Hi there. I am really glad that you find the Gurdjieff/Ouspensky commentary valuable. I will continue to discuss these ideas on the channel more regularly! 🙏
I am glad your videos on Gurdjieff showed up on my feed. My very first book on what I would call now "metaphysics" that I read is "In Search of the Miraculous" around 1978. It took me 6 months to read. So glad I found your channel. Yes I am interested in a group. Thank you
Welcome to Book Club! I too am glad that you found the channel. Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and Bennett are great modern thinkers and I have greatly benefited from reading them and bringing their teaching into my own life. Here is the link to the Discord group: discord.gg/P3kP2P5K
A slow calculated path upwards into psychedelics is the quickest way towards higher consciousness. Not for the faint of heart or for someone who doesn’t want intense changes. Dedicated shadow work through personal inquiry. Towards the crown jewel of psychedelics. 5 meo dmt. The god molecule can be the catalyst to show you what higher consciousness/non duality is. Please do your research and approach this safely if you choose this path. Ps. Great job selecting and reading this wisdom. It’s very accurate and breaks it down well. Gurdijeff was absolutely awakened
I agree with you there Kurt. My experiences have been psychedelics are rapid, but you can’t keep all of the wisdom you gleam through the experience. Meditation & contemplation are far slower, but you get to keep everything. That was my experience of a heroic dose. And yes, caution is key, and once you get on the ride, there is no escape until it’s over. 🙏❤️
@@bookclub5291 I agree with you. Well said. You can definitely keep a lot of that understanding from base line consciousness work in our day to day. But its just not the same as getting those intense downloads from collective consciousness. I’ve been recording them and using trip sitters to help retain those lessons. You can keep more of it if you go about it the right way.
10:42 An other, heartfull path to the higher selfconsciousness and the 4.conscious level through the dayly work of the own creativ artistic expression of the souls troutht..psychedelic.
" Gurdjieff said, “You are nothing but the body, and when the body dies you will die. Only once in a while does a person survive - one who has created soul in his life survives death - not all. A Buddha survives; a Jesus survives, but not you! You will simply die, not even a trace will be left.” What was Gurdjieff trying to do? He was shocking you to the very roots; he was trying to take away all your consolations and foolish theories which go on helping you to postpone work upon yourself. Now, to tell people, “You don’t have any souls, you are just vegetables, just a cabbage or maybe a cauliflower” - a cauliflower is a cabbage with a college education - “but nothing more than that.” He was really a master par excellence. He was taking the very earth away from underneath your feet. He was giving you such a shock that you had to think over the whole situation: are you going to remain a cabbage? He was creating a situation around you in which you would have to seek and search for the soul, because who wants to die? And the idea that the soul is immortal has helped people to console themselves that they are not going to die, that death is just an appearance, just a long sleep, a restful sleep, and you will be born again. Gurdjieff says, “All nonsense. This is all nonsense! Dead, you are dead forever - unless you have created the soul….” Now see the difference: you have been told you are already a soul, and Gurdjieff changes it totally. He says, “You are not already a soul, but only an opportunity. You can use it, you can miss it.” And I would like to tell you that Gurdjieff was just using a device. It is not true. Everybody is born with a soul. But what to do with people who have been using truths as consolations? A great master sometimes has to lie - and only a great master has the right to lie - just to pull you out of your sleep. Gurdjieff has been much criticized because he was a liar - and the lying came from the Sufis; he was a Sufi. He was disciplined in Sufi monasteries and schools. And in the West, in fact, he introduced Sufism in this age in a totally new version. But then it was impossible for the ordinary Christian mind to understand him because truth is a value, and nobody can think that a master, an enlightened master, can lie. Can you think of Jesus lying? And I know he lied - but Christians cannot think about it: “Jesus lying? No, he is the truest man.” But then you don’t know - the question of knowledge is very, very dangerous. He lied about many things - a master has to, if he wants to help. Otherwise, he can be a saint, but no help is possible from him. And without helping, a saint is already dead. If a saint cannot help, what is the use of his being here? There is no point in it. All that he can attain through life, he has attained. He is here to help. Gurdjieff was very much criticized because the West couldn’t understand, the ordinary Christian mind could not understand. So there are two versions about Gurdjieff in the West. One thinks that he was a very mischievous man - not a sage at all, just a devil incarnate. Another is that he was the greatest saint the West has come to know in these past few centuries. Both are true, because he was just in the middle. He was a ‘po’ personality. You cannot say yes, you cannot say no about him. You can say that he was a holy sinner, or a sinning saint. But you cannot divide, you cannot be so simple about him. The knowledge that he had was very complex. Gurdjieff says: Go on remembering the observer - self-remembering. Buddha says: Forget the observer just watch the observed. If you have to choose between Buddha and Gurdjieff, I suggest choosing Buddha. There is a danger with Gurdjieff that you may become too self-conscious - rather than becoming self-aware, you may become self-conscious, you may become an egoist. I have felt that in many Gurdjieff disciples, they have become very, very great egoists. Not that Gurdjieff was an egoist - he was one of the rarest enlightened men of this age; but the method has a danger in it, it is very difficult to make a distinction between self-consciousness and self-remembering. It is so subtle it is almost impossible to make the distinction; for the ignorant masses it is almost always self-consciousness that will take possession of them; it will not be self-remembering. The very word “self” is dangerous - you become more and more settled in the idea of the self. And the idea of the self isolates you from existence. Buddha says forget the self, because there is no self; the self is just in the grammar, in the language - it is not anything existential. You just observe the content. By observing the content, the content starts disappearing. Once the content disappears, watch your anger - and watching it, you will see it is disappearing - once the anger has disappeared there is silence. There is no self, no observer, and nothing to be observed; there is silence. This silence is brought by Vipassana, Buddha’s method of awareness. One old woman became very much impressed by Ouspensky, and then she went to see Gurdjieff. Within just a week she was back, and she told Ouspensky, “I can feel that Gurdjieff is great, but I am not certain whether he is good or bad, whether he is evil, devilish, or a saint. I am not certain about that. He is great - that much is certain. But he may be a great devil, or a great saint - that is not certain.” And Gurdjieff behaved in such a way that he would create this impression. Alan Watts has written about Gurdjieff and has called him a rascal saint - because sometimes he would behave like a rascal, but it was all acting and was done knowingly to avoid all those who would take unnecessary time and energy. It was done to send back those who could only work when they were certain. Only those would be allowed who could work even when they were not certain about the master, but who were certain about themselves. And to surrender to a Gurdjieff will transform you more than surrendering to Ramana Maharshi, because Ramana Maharshi is so saintly, so simple, that surrender doesn’t mean anything. You cannot do otherwise. He is so open - just like a small child - so pure, that surrender will happen. But that surrender is happening because of Ramana Maharshi, not because of you. It is nothing as far as you are concerned. If surrender happens with Gurdjieff, then it has happened because of you, because Gurdjieff is in no way going to support it. Rather, he will create all types of hindrances. If still you surrender, that transforms you. So there is no need to be absolutely sure about him - and that is impossible - but you have to be sure about yourself."
I will surely read along with you all! I read ISOM a few years ago after attending a lecture of a student of the 4th way. Her name is Cynthia Bourgeault, check her books out if u haven’t already…
❤ So I've read lots of books on this as it's my favorite subject but not this one yet. 😂 So yeah, I started doing research about this about 5 years ago to try to identify what had happened to me. ❤one more thing to say on this, is that even when one does awaken it's not like one just stays that way easily. I can't call what it takes work, since it's more of like a letting go, but more like focus. Hmn...sometimes I just stop reading any books about it since it can tend to conplucate since it's so simple, yet not simple. Hmn...none of the experts are joking when they say try, but don't try, and that it is beyond words. Lol!!!!!!!
Hey Kimberly. Yes, this is a topic of great interest! Once people find these things, they become the most important thing in the world! Send me an email if you would like to discuss it further. And yes, to your last point, there is a lot that is not for the mind to grasp, it is for something higher...
I think the cut to the bone, take no prisoners approach at this particular point in time is necessary. Considering all the things that distract us which has become 10 fold in the last 30 years. I feel if we do not wake up now, it will be next to impossible further down the line. Only because technology and media have become superpowers of influence for mechanical, sleeping men. They march on unawares, entertained, medicated and numb. Personally, I find the whole idea of waking, the most important aspect of my unfolding life. I use everything in my life as fodder for waking, this work and do my best to put in the super efforts.
Well said Kathy! Life’s distractions have surely increased and bombard us from minute to minute. It’s clear that no progress can be made without it being the main priority in one’s life! I remember Gurdjieff saying that we should make it our aim, make it our God. It’s great to have connected Kathy, as we share an intensity for the work which is essential. Thanks for your comment! 🙏❤️
I love the Pilot Varsity disposable fountain pens. I agree about preferring things built to last, but I myself simply can't manage to not lose pens, so I'm chary of spending more than a few quid on one.
My grandfather had the privilege of meeting Gurdjieff in Paris in the late 20s. We grew up going to Bray every weekend. I personally enjoyed every minute. The whole philosophy filtered down to all of us, it s a philosophy I've followed all my life .when people ask me if I'm religious I'll always tell them that I'm Budist. I've been told by some I grew up in a cult! Not true of course. It's made me who I am.
Thank you for this video! It offered an opportunity to see and almost touch one of the walls of imaginationation built by myself. How could I find the other videos you made on the topics related to the G. work, please?
Thanks for this, I think this is a good format and rhythm for me to receive . . whether this is the stage I am at or my character development so far. Thank you for this, Keep going❗ Chris
Thank you for this podcast, you are doing excellent work. However, for those who need more guidance, or impersonal work I may be of help. As a student of Gurdjieff for these past 50+ years, I found a method to understand Ouspensky's book "In Search of the Miraculous." Now I teach the 4th Way.
Thank you for yourvideos and hi from Greece. Could someone tell me in wich book are the exerises "excluding the dervish dances"? USPENSKYS book is unreadable once he gets into octaves , BELZEBAUL TALE is a sci fi novel and IN SEARCH OF MIRACULUS is his life story. Only a book of ORAGE has some exersises. Also did G ever mentioned Planetary Magic Kabbalah and Planetary Jinn I wonder if he dived into thematter as Aleister Crowleyand Franz Bardon were contemporaries.
Thank you that was very good. Only just found out about The Fourth Way. it was very enjoyable hearing about your realisation. Sounded a bit like me. Have you looked at self inquiry. People like Rupert Spira?
Hi there. I’m pleased to hear that you have been made aware of the Fourth Way! Many people appear to come in via Rupert Spira, but I haven’t heard any of his content. I came across the books many years ago. Welcome to the channel! 🙏
The once that sees is not the one that wants. The seer sees the wanter. Doe seer and wanter are not separated they are not the same. It is conceptually not understandable.
Hey Kimberly. There are a couple of social groups for Book Club, but they are inactive currently. Maybe I will start speaking about them more on the channel to help people find them. For now, here are the links for you. There is a Facebook group and a discord server: Here is the Link to the Facebook Group: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063838520554 And here is the link to the Discord server: discord.gg/U5pM9CZa
@@bookclub5291 Hi. 😀. I have not done any social media since the thing 6 years ago that led me to the books,, except for Utube, but I would to check this out. I have to get used to it again anyways since my son wants me to help him start a channel when he's done school. I have my work ✂️ out. Lol..Thanks much!! ❣
I think this material would be good for a spiritual school on TH-cam. Humans need a school. TH-cam is a great media (for now). Self Remembering has changed my life forever. A whole universe of expansion of Being! Keep Working and thank you for your vital material.
Thank you my friend! Glad you found the video valuable. Gurdjieff has impacted my life a great deal too. Good to have you with us in on this journey! 😊🙏
An african proverb of Fela Kuti sais: "If you stand still, you will burn..if you walk you will hear!"
An other westafrican proverb says "Si tu connais toimeme tu connais Dieu."
I really like your explanations of this work… 🙏
Happy to hear that my friend. There is a whole commentary playlist if you haven’t seen it. Here is the link:
th-cam.com/play/PL0L0onrHik1u-0fd-jptjGpK_qXmOdQgw.html&si=ReaOAy0TQGMlvLtz
One of my favorite books ever. Working on the Spanish version now. Get something new and deeper each time. Thanks for your super efforts.
I imagine that it’s an amazing text to read in Spanish!! I’ve been learning for some time and will pick it up. Welcome to Book Club! ❤️📚
I loved the” real world is hidden from him by a wall of his imagination”… His past is in his imagination. His future is in his imagination, and therefore are not real, he cannot see what is real, he is blind to his own omnipotence, his omnipresence Therefore, he is a dangerous creature, harming himself, and those around him with his imagination which informs his behaviors… He believes in his man-made identity… I’m trying to get off the pendulum of desire versus aversion, myself… I consider it a spell of sorts, a trap, a learned trap …
I remember in one of the last chapters of the book… Openskys says “I had not yet learned to receive“ and I thought this was so powerful and profound… And when I listened to you read part of chapter 8, I guess it is our own “wall of imagination“ blocking our receivership of the truth of who we really are… Have a blessed day and thank you for this… Love and light to all
Hey Lisa. You are very welcome. I agree, a lot has to be digested and understood in order to progress, and imagination is a big obstacle along the way. Identification is also a big one.
I plan to make more videos of this kind as we move through ISOM and I hope you will come for the ride. 😀🙏
Fools Gold🎭I really appreciate your Time & Efforts to elucidate these Glittering Glimpses of GI Gurdjieff's ideas as documented by Ouspensky... AI for Prophets not Profits🃏
Hi there. I am really glad that you find the Gurdjieff/Ouspensky commentary valuable. I will continue to discuss these ideas on the channel more regularly! 🙏
Love the discussion of the work
Hey Chandra. Thanks. I will continue to speak about it! 🙏
Excellent brief explanation of The Work.. Thank you.
You’re welcome! Glad you found it valuable 🙏
I am glad your videos on Gurdjieff showed up on my feed. My very first book on what I would call now "metaphysics" that I read is "In Search of the Miraculous" around 1978. It took me 6 months to read. So glad I found your channel. Yes I am interested in a group. Thank you
Welcome to Book Club! I too am glad that you found the channel. Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and Bennett are great modern thinkers and I have greatly benefited from reading them and bringing their teaching into my own life.
Here is the link to the Discord group:
discord.gg/P3kP2P5K
A slow calculated path upwards into psychedelics is the quickest way towards higher consciousness. Not for the faint of heart or for someone who doesn’t want intense changes. Dedicated shadow work through personal inquiry. Towards the crown jewel of psychedelics. 5 meo dmt. The god molecule can be the catalyst to show you what higher consciousness/non duality is. Please do your research and approach this safely if you choose this path.
Ps. Great job selecting and reading this wisdom. It’s very accurate and breaks it down well. Gurdijeff was absolutely awakened
I agree with you there Kurt. My experiences have been psychedelics are rapid, but you can’t keep all of the wisdom you gleam through the experience. Meditation & contemplation are far slower, but you get to keep everything. That was my experience of a heroic dose. And yes, caution is key, and once you get on the ride, there is no escape until it’s over. 🙏❤️
@@bookclub5291 I agree with you. Well said. You can definitely keep a lot of that understanding from base line consciousness work in our day to day. But its just not the same as getting those intense downloads from collective consciousness. I’ve been recording them and using trip sitters to help retain those lessons. You can keep more of it if you go about it the right way.
10:42 An other, heartfull path to the higher selfconsciousness and the 4.conscious level through the dayly work of the own creativ artistic expression of the souls troutht..psychedelic.
" Gurdjieff said, “You are nothing but the body, and when the body dies you will die. Only once in a while does a person survive - one who has created soul in his life survives death - not all. A Buddha survives; a Jesus survives, but not you! You will simply die, not even a trace will be left.”
What was Gurdjieff trying to do? He was shocking you to the very roots; he was trying to take away all your consolations and foolish theories which go on helping you to postpone work upon yourself. Now, to tell people, “You don’t have any souls, you are just vegetables, just a cabbage or maybe a cauliflower” - a cauliflower is a cabbage with a college education - “but nothing more than that.” He was really a master par excellence. He was taking the very earth away from underneath your feet. He was giving you such a shock that you had to think over the whole situation: are you going to remain a cabbage? He was creating a situation around you in which you would have to seek and search for the soul, because who wants to die?
And the idea that the soul is immortal has helped people to console themselves that they are not going to die, that death is just an appearance, just a long sleep, a restful sleep, and you will be born again. Gurdjieff says, “All nonsense. This is all nonsense! Dead, you are dead forever - unless you have created the soul….”
Now see the difference: you have been told you are already a soul, and Gurdjieff changes it totally. He says, “You are not already a soul, but only an opportunity. You can use it, you can miss it.”
And I would like to tell you that Gurdjieff was just using a device. It is not true. Everybody is born with a soul. But what to do with people who have been using truths as consolations? A great master sometimes has to lie - and only a great master has the right to lie - just to pull you out of your sleep.
Gurdjieff has been much criticized because he was a liar - and the lying came from the Sufis; he was a Sufi. He was disciplined in Sufi monasteries and schools. And in the West, in fact, he introduced Sufism in this age in a totally new version. But then it was impossible for the ordinary Christian mind to understand him because truth is a value, and nobody can think that a master, an enlightened master, can lie.
Can you think of Jesus lying? And I know he lied - but Christians cannot think about it: “Jesus lying? No, he is the truest man.” But then you don’t know - the question of knowledge is very, very dangerous. He lied about many things - a master has to, if he wants to help. Otherwise, he can be a saint, but no help is possible from him. And without helping, a saint is already dead. If a saint cannot help, what is the use of his being here? There is no point in it. All that he can attain through life, he has attained. He is here to help.
Gurdjieff was very much criticized because the West couldn’t understand, the ordinary Christian mind could not understand. So there are two versions about Gurdjieff in the West. One thinks that he was a very mischievous man - not a sage at all, just a devil incarnate. Another is that he was the greatest saint the West has come to know in these past few centuries. Both are true, because he was just in the middle. He was a ‘po’ personality. You cannot say yes, you cannot say no about him. You can say that he was a holy sinner, or a sinning saint. But you cannot divide, you cannot be so simple about him. The knowledge that he had was very complex.
Gurdjieff says: Go on remembering the observer - self-remembering. Buddha says: Forget the observer just watch the observed. If you have to choose between Buddha and Gurdjieff, I suggest choosing Buddha. There is a danger with Gurdjieff that you may become too self-conscious - rather than becoming self-aware, you may become self-conscious, you may become an egoist. I have felt that in many Gurdjieff disciples, they have become very, very great egoists. Not that Gurdjieff was an egoist - he was one of the rarest enlightened men of this age; but the method has a danger in it, it is very difficult to make a distinction between self-consciousness and self-remembering. It is so subtle it is almost impossible to make the distinction; for the ignorant masses it is almost always self-consciousness that will take possession of them; it will not be self-remembering.
The very word “self” is dangerous - you become more and more settled in the idea of the self. And the idea of the self isolates you from existence.
Buddha says forget the self, because there is no self; the self is just in the grammar, in the language - it is not anything existential. You just observe the content. By observing the content, the content starts disappearing. Once the content disappears, watch your anger - and watching it, you will see it is disappearing - once the anger has disappeared there is silence. There is no self, no observer, and nothing to be observed; there is silence. This silence is brought by Vipassana, Buddha’s method of awareness.
One old woman became very much impressed by Ouspensky, and then she went to see Gurdjieff. Within just a week she was back, and she told Ouspensky, “I can feel that Gurdjieff is great, but I am not certain whether he is good or bad, whether he is evil, devilish, or a saint. I am not certain about that. He is great - that much is certain. But he may be a great devil, or a great saint - that is not certain.” And Gurdjieff behaved in such a way that he would create this impression.
Alan Watts has written about Gurdjieff and has called him a rascal saint - because sometimes he would behave like a rascal, but it was all acting and was done knowingly to avoid all those who would take unnecessary time and energy. It was done to send back those who could only work when they were certain. Only those would be allowed who could work even when they were not certain about the master, but who were certain about themselves.
And to surrender to a Gurdjieff will transform you more than surrendering to Ramana Maharshi, because Ramana Maharshi is so saintly, so simple, that surrender doesn’t mean anything. You cannot do otherwise. He is so open - just like a small child - so pure, that surrender will happen. But that surrender is happening because of Ramana Maharshi, not because of you. It is nothing as far as you are concerned. If surrender happens with Gurdjieff, then it has happened because of you, because Gurdjieff is in no way going to support it. Rather, he will create all types of hindrances. If still you surrender, that transforms you. So there is no need to be absolutely sure about him - and that is impossible - but you have to be sure about yourself."
Thanks for the help on the journey. Peace
Peace to you too! You are very welcome. More discussions to follow.
I would love to talk to you about groups and your experiences. You're right, there is so much valuable information.
Join the Discord here and we can discuss
discord.gg/GMFA62JJ
Thank You !
You're welcome! 🙏
Perfect
😊🙏
thaank yuo
You are welcome 🙏
I will surely read along with you all! I read ISOM a few years ago after attending a lecture of a student of the 4th way. Her name is Cynthia Bourgeault, check her books out if u haven’t already…
Amazing insighs. Thank you for your efforts
You’re very welcome. More commentary to come. 👍
Great video and thanks for the clear explanations and your own experiences. Please please please let’s get a group going. That would be great
Hey Zach. Glad you enjoyed the video. I will definitely consider getting a group together. 🙏
❤ So I've read lots of books on this as it's my favorite subject but not this one yet. 😂 So yeah, I started doing research about this about 5 years ago to try to identify what had happened to me. ❤one more thing to say on this, is that even when one does awaken it's not like one just stays that way easily. I can't call what it takes work, since it's more of like a letting go, but more like focus. Hmn...sometimes I just stop reading any books about it since it can tend to conplucate since it's so simple, yet not simple. Hmn...none of the experts are joking when they say try, but don't try, and that it is beyond words. Lol!!!!!!!
Hey Kimberly. Yes, this is a topic of great interest! Once people find these things, they become the most important thing in the world! Send me an email if you would like to discuss it further. And yes, to your last point, there is a lot that is not for the mind to grasp, it is for something higher...
I think the cut to the bone, take no prisoners approach at this particular point in time is necessary. Considering all the things that distract us which has become 10 fold in the last 30 years. I feel if we do not wake up now, it will be next to impossible further down the line. Only because technology and media have become superpowers of influence for mechanical, sleeping men. They march on unawares, entertained, medicated and numb. Personally, I find the whole idea of waking, the most important aspect of my unfolding life. I use everything in my life as fodder for waking, this work and do my best to put in the super efforts.
Well said Kathy!
Life’s distractions have surely increased and bombard us from minute to minute. It’s clear that no progress can be made without it being the main priority in one’s life! I remember Gurdjieff saying that we should make it our aim, make it our God. It’s great to have connected Kathy, as we share an intensity for the work which is essential. Thanks for your comment! 🙏❤️
Thank you for this Lewis, I look forward to getting to that chapter 🙏🏻
My pleasure Lori. I’m glad that you are exploring the ideas with an open mind! 🙏
Thanks for this!
You’re most welcome 🙏
I love the Pilot Varsity disposable fountain pens. I agree about preferring things built to last, but I myself simply can't manage to not lose pens, so I'm chary of spending more than a few quid on one.
Thank you, I can't get enough of your channel :) Fantastic
Glad you enjoyed it! Welcome. Any further questions are welcome 🙏
Brilhant explained, I love the way you break all up and explain everything, much appreciated and keep up the good work ❤.
Great reading and talk 👍 I was going to take a nap but this video kept me awake :)
Good choice 👍
thanks 4 a wake us
😀🙏
Great video
Thanks! Glad you found it valuable
My grandfather had the privilege of meeting Gurdjieff in Paris in the late 20s. We grew up going to Bray every weekend. I personally enjoyed every minute. The whole philosophy filtered down to all of us, it s a philosophy I've followed all my life .when people ask me if I'm religious I'll always tell them that I'm Budist. I've been told by some I grew up in a cult! Not true of course. It's made me who I am.
Thank you for this video! It offered an opportunity to see and almost touch one of the walls of imaginationation built by myself. How could I find the other videos you made on the topics related to the G. work, please?
Here is a link to the commentary playlist. Enjoy 🙏
th-cam.com/play/PL0L0onrHik1u-0fd-jptjGpK_qXmOdQgw.html&si=bLBGJ5exieByWwYL
@@bookclub5291 Thank you very much for the link 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you very much, your time effort and brilliance is most appreciated.
I diffinetly learn much more this way.
You are welcome 🙏
Good video
Thanks. 🙏
Thanks for this, I think this is a good format and rhythm for me to receive . . whether this is the stage I am at or my character development so far.
Thank you for this,
Keep going❗ Chris
You are welcome Chris. Welcome to the channel, and I look forward to moving forward in the work together. 🙏
Thank you for this podcast, you are doing excellent work. However, for those who need more guidance, or impersonal work I may be of help. As a student of Gurdjieff for these past 50+ years, I found a method to understand Ouspensky's book "In Search of the Miraculous." Now I teach the 4th Way.
For those who may want to be involved in individual studies on Ouspensky's book "In Search of the Miraculous," please check my website.
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Thank you for yourvideos and hi from Greece. Could someone tell me in wich book are the exerises "excluding the dervish dances"? USPENSKYS book is unreadable once he gets into octaves , BELZEBAUL TALE is a sci fi novel and IN SEARCH OF MIRACULUS is his life story. Only a book of ORAGE has some exersises. Also did G ever mentioned Planetary Magic Kabbalah and Planetary Jinn I wonder if he dived into thematter as Aleister Crowleyand Franz Bardon were contemporaries.
Good 30 jears back i've been invitet to the film of Gurdjeffs spiritual seeking of god..and therein you'll find all the answers of your quest.
Btw is that you in the diving suit at the end of the video? Or a reference to go deep? hehe
Thank you that was very good. Only just found out about The Fourth Way. it was very enjoyable hearing about your realisation. Sounded a bit like me.
Have you looked at self inquiry. People like Rupert Spira?
Hi there. I’m pleased to hear that you have been made aware of the Fourth Way! Many people appear to come in via Rupert Spira, but I haven’t heard any of his content. I came across the books many years ago. Welcome to the channel! 🙏
Mankind is certainly sleep
Was gurdjieff himself really enlightened? Proof?
What is title of book?
In search of the Miraculous. Here is the playlist. Enjoy 🙏
th-cam.com/play/PL0L0onrHik1vkLmBSVQ8fttdSqk2wynO9.html&si=jpzECNKInDRMwYel
Jose dixit...
The 4th state sounds like flow state, or even a state of no self.
The once that sees is not the one that wants. The seer sees the wanter. Doe seer and wanter are not separated they are not the same. It is conceptually not understandable.
Too bad Os didn't have the guts to stick around for Enlightenment.
It’s a sad story. And how many more are there out there like Os??
@@bookclub5291 10,000 are called, 1,000 hear, 100 listen, 10 follow, and 9 are lost along the way. " Wisdom is not being distracted." Osho
Amazing quote! Love that ❤️🙏
It would be awesome if you formed a group. Group could be for fellowship. 😂
Hey Kimberly. There are a couple of social groups for Book Club, but they are inactive currently. Maybe I will start speaking about them more on the channel to help people find them. For now, here are the links for you. There is a Facebook group and a discord server:
Here is the Link to the Facebook Group: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063838520554
And here is the link to the Discord server:
discord.gg/U5pM9CZa
Send me an email if you would like to talk further.
@@bookclub5291 Hi. 😀. I have not done any social media since the thing 6 years ago that led me to the books,, except for Utube, but I would to check this out. I have to get used to it again anyways since my son wants me to help him start a channel when he's done school. I have my work ✂️ out. Lol..Thanks much!! ❣
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