Ororon shares the same design philosophy as Chevreuse Chevreuse is an overload support (pyro+electro) so her outfit is red while her hair is purple Ororon is an electrocharged support (electro+hydro) so his design is a mix of purple and blue
Genuinely a beautiful trailer so many impressive and cool shots, my favorite being him surrounded by those crows/birds that looks low framerate and stuff, all of the roshack/kolaidascope imagery, super cool. Also his story is pretty great, it's hard to talk about without spoilers but knowing his personality in game compared to his trailers/appearance is super funny🤣 I'm so looking forward to getting him, as well as seeing Chasca's trailer soon! The next patch is perfect for a bow character collector such as myself.
Comparing this with some of the early game 4 star trailers feels so crazy ahaha. The improvement is wonderful Although to be honest, I did had a thought in my mind while watching the trailer that perhaps they went more hard with the trailer then they should if that makes sense. Coz to me personally it seems like constant flashy editing and not giving much breathing room in between.
I can definitely see that. I kind of had a hard time comprehending everything that was happening to due the editing functioning at a steady 11. Super cool but yeah, difficult to get a read of specifics. However, I guess you could argue that's what the miscellanies are for.
One of the reasons I love Genshin so much is that they truly want to make good 4 starts as well. So many other games, including other Hoyo ones introduce a 4 star don't do much marketing and then a few patches later power creep them with a 5 star that does the exact same thing but better or just more. Meanwhile Genshin still has meta 4 star characters!
I wouldn't really give Genshin a pass on that because they've been like every other title in this way till pretty recently. There are 5 stars that do what 4 stars can do but better without needing as many C's, and trying to get copies of some 4 stars aren't guaranteed when pulling unfortunately. It'd be nice if they could somehow build a system for that. However, as far as presentation goes, 4 stars have been getting a lot more style these days and I'm here for it. :)
To be fair, there aren't too many 4 stars that would be considered as good as the first ones. The only ones that are good in recent days are Yaoyao, chevreuse, and debatably Kuki and Faruzan. All others are just okay.
I think when it comes to the marketing all trailers have gotten better. So I think it's more of a situation of the rising tide lifting all ships. The team that makes the trailers has just gotten better and so as a result the more recent 4 star trailer have also gotten better. In terms of power there are 4 star characters from ever nation and from every major version that are still good. The thing is that most of the non-dps 4 stars have very unique purposes and kits. Almost (if not even just) all 4 star character are sidegrades to their 5 star characters with arguably similar kits. Sucrose for instance you can argue is worse at grouping than Venti, but she's still used over him a lot of the time because she buffs everyone's EM, which Venti doesn't. Yelan and Xingqiu are probably the most famous and obvious example and even with them there are enough differences that you would still consider who to use. Yelan is easier to use and gives a damage boost, while Xingqiu has a damage reduction some minor healing and very importantly applies more hydro. There are many other examples like this as well, but there are also a lot of examples where 4 starts do something no one else in the game does. Gorou (released in Inazuma), Faruzan (Sumeru), Chevreuse (Fontain) and now Ororon (Natlan). Most shielders and healers are 4 stars. Characters like Bennet and Kuki a literally better than a lot of 5 star ones. Over all I think 4 star characters have always been great, not just before or recently, but sometimes Hoyo tries something and it just doesn't quite work. Which also happens to 5 stars so I don't think it's a 4 star issue specifically. I do hard agree that we need some 4 star guarantee though. I've been saying for a long time now that we need an epitomized path type of system for the rate up 4 star characters, but who knows when it will happen.
Hi man, I'm commenting again bcs I'm itching to do so. Let's just start with the fact that I'm one of those people who initially doesn't really like his design but I kept my mind open until I know his story in-game. Which, I'm glad I did. He is by far my favorite character personality-wise and lore-wise (tied to Archon Quest). You're talking about "isn't there supposed to be another excerpt" in 6:54. Maybe yeah. But I know why they probably wouldn't include it. It's bcs the entire words he says in that trailer is what clues it in. Everything he says are spoilers to who he is, what he is, what's his role in the Archon Quest. Personally I'm saying "Hoyo is pulling a Furina but backwards". I know you're not in Fontaine rn so you won't understand what I'm saying. Tldr, he's just a really great character. I can't wait to see his character teaser.
@wienzard93 Thanks for commenting! I see, that's interesting. We'll, I'm glad that you like his character. Seems like quite a few people do. He won't be getting a teaser though, right? 4 stars don't tend to. Unless if I'm not aware of something.
@@TheRoschi oh wait. Dang. I forgot about that. The JP and CN community were making a lil fuss right after his drip marketing bcs he was dripped as 4*. The communities I mentioned wanted him to be 5*. He's just that good. I read about his kit, it seems like he's one of the rare good sub DPS/support if you want to play electro charged team. Now you know why I thought he would have a teaser 🤣
About something sleeping beneath the snow - I think this is his voice line when you go to Dragonspine. They don't record separate voice lines for 4 star trailers (unlike 5 star trailers) so all the voice lines are from their profile page in the game. Although they are arranged so good it is not noticeable.
So for me the problem with 5 stars and 4 stars is twofold. 1. It's impossible to guarantee getting a specific 4 star, and this time around I wouldn't be okay with it if I got one of the 5 stars on the banner in trying to pull for Ororon. I don't want Chasca and I already have Lyney. I'm still going to pull for him because he's easily my favourite Natlan character. 2. If he's not a 5 star he doesn't get a story quest. Now, he might still get a hangout, which would be cool. But only one character in all of Fontaine got a hangout so they might just be trying to phase them out in general. I'm not optimistic for the future of hangouts.
Yeah I can see that. It could be a little rough. I'd like Hoyoverse to implement another character selector banner when pulling if possible, including 4 stars or maybe specifically to target 4 stars. They're going to need to do something 'cause their current cycling through characters isn't cutting it anymore. There's too many.
@@bookswithike3256 I guess he did span across two archon acts, but I'd argue Mualani had a larger arc (and a story quest) in the first two acts of the archon quest. But I suppose small wasn't the right word to use, but maybe decently sizable? Which would still contribute to my point, he's been covered by the archon quest already so it's unlikely we'll see more - but I'd be happy to see more!
@@Crusader050 I don't feel like Mualani has much of an arc at all in the AQ. She's still one of my favourite Natlan characters, don't get me wrong, but she's kind of already an actualised person before the AQ starts and I can't think of any personal change she undergoes. I think the strongest argument for someone who has more of an arc than Ororon is Kachina, but even then I don't think so. But we obviously can't get into the weeds of that discussion in this comment section.
I am definitely pulling for Ororon! I'm hoping I don't get Chasca, but I have to get Ororon so if I get her, I get her. I can't pass Ororon up 😁 I loved his trailer! They really stepped up for this 4 star who technically should have been a 5 star. Ahem, but that's neither here or there; I just know that I am excited to get him!
Im a little surprised to see people not wanting Chasca. She can self swirl, and is better than Wanderer in almost every way. Im only not pulling for Chasca because Im in saving mode for the pyro archon, but I'd be willing to drop a few ten pulls to see if I can get an Ororon. I want me a batman for my Neuvillette!
As far as her playstyle goes, I'll hold my judgement till I get to try out her test run. There are plenty of things that seem interesting enough about her, but I can see why some may not want to pull at the same time for other reasons. Best of luck getting the archon whenever they drop. :)
but for me ororon is the first male character that for me im interested outside that he's an archon etc. since day1, the reason i pull male character is must have a strong side that make me want to pull. like zhongli is the archon, itto jp va is my favorite legend singer, kaveh's personality really like me so much, etc. i love his design so much and his color palette too, and his game mechanic really unique. also one reason that i cant tell you because its spoiler hahaha.
They always pair new four stars with new five stars released in the first half, but I still want some older (mostly support) characters, so no Ororon for me I guess. Dragonspine, Kaeya 👀Roschi is cooking something 🔥
I like Ororon, but this trailer It's too flashy for me, I mean it's a cool trailer, but I don't even see what's going on. Is that his ability or special effects? first time seeing that trailer, its all blends in. I don't even know if I'm gonna pull for him, that banner is not looking good, other 4 stars in that banner is... something, and I don't interested in Chasca, maybe I'll try to get one copy of Ororon in Lyney's banner but I'm not sure if I wanna risk getting 5star I don't need
@Undertaker-kj4fe I agree with you. The trailer is cool but at this point it looks more like I'm watching some tripped out AMV... There's a lot that I do like about it, but a little more cohesion would be nice.
This is probably the most confusing character demo/trailer I've seen, even though I've completed all content in Natlan... 😅 Makes me really curious about what role he will play in the future
Hoyoverse just woke up and decided "Hey, let's drop the hardest demo for a 4 star before" damn
They weren't playing around
And doubly funny because it's literally nothing like Ororon actually is in-game.
i just hope i can get him fast because hes one of my favorite Natlan characters
Awsome! best of luck :D
Ororon shares the same design philosophy as Chevreuse
Chevreuse is an overload support (pyro+electro) so her outfit is red while her hair is purple
Ororon is an electrocharged support (electro+hydro) so his design is a mix of purple and blue
Love that detail
Genuinely a beautiful trailer so many impressive and cool shots, my favorite being him surrounded by those crows/birds that looks low framerate and stuff, all of the roshack/kolaidascope imagery, super cool. Also his story is pretty great, it's hard to talk about without spoilers but knowing his personality in game compared to his trailers/appearance is super funny🤣
I'm so looking forward to getting him, as well as seeing Chasca's trailer soon! The next patch is perfect for a bow character collector such as myself.
Best of luck getting him!
I'm looking forward to seeing what he's all about some day. :)
Comparing this with some of the early game 4 star trailers feels so crazy ahaha. The improvement is wonderful
Although to be honest, I did had a thought in my mind while watching the trailer that perhaps they went more hard with the trailer then they should if that makes sense. Coz to me personally it seems like constant flashy editing and not giving much breathing room in between.
I can definitely see that. I kind of had a hard time comprehending everything that was happening to due the editing functioning at a steady 11. Super cool but yeah, difficult to get a read of specifics.
However, I guess you could argue that's what the miscellanies are for.
One of the reasons I love Genshin so much is that they truly want to make good 4 starts as well. So many other games, including other Hoyo ones introduce a 4 star don't do much marketing and then a few patches later power creep them with a 5 star that does the exact same thing but better or just more. Meanwhile Genshin still has meta 4 star characters!
I wouldn't really give Genshin a pass on that because they've been like every other title in this way till pretty recently.
There are 5 stars that do what 4 stars can do but better without needing as many C's, and trying to get copies of some 4 stars aren't guaranteed when pulling unfortunately. It'd be nice if they could somehow build a system for that.
However, as far as presentation goes, 4 stars have been getting a lot more style these days and I'm here for it. :)
To be fair, there aren't too many 4 stars that would be considered as good as the first ones. The only ones that are good in recent days are Yaoyao, chevreuse, and debatably Kuki and Faruzan. All others are just okay.
I think when it comes to the marketing all trailers have gotten better. So I think it's more of a situation of the rising tide lifting all ships. The team that makes the trailers has just gotten better and so as a result the more recent 4 star trailer have also gotten better. In terms of power there are 4 star characters from ever nation and from every major version that are still good. The thing is that most of the non-dps 4 stars have very unique purposes and kits. Almost (if not even just) all 4 star character are sidegrades to their 5 star characters with arguably similar kits. Sucrose for instance you can argue is worse at grouping than Venti, but she's still used over him a lot of the time because she buffs everyone's EM, which Venti doesn't. Yelan and Xingqiu are probably the most famous and obvious example and even with them there are enough differences that you would still consider who to use. Yelan is easier to use and gives a damage boost, while Xingqiu has a damage reduction some minor healing and very importantly applies more hydro. There are many other examples like this as well, but there are also a lot of examples where 4 starts do something no one else in the game does. Gorou (released in Inazuma), Faruzan (Sumeru), Chevreuse (Fontain) and now Ororon (Natlan). Most shielders and healers are 4 stars. Characters like Bennet and Kuki a literally better than a lot of 5 star ones. Over all I think 4 star characters have always been great, not just before or recently, but sometimes Hoyo tries something and it just doesn't quite work. Which also happens to 5 stars so I don't think it's a 4 star issue specifically. I do hard agree that we need some 4 star guarantee though. I've been saying for a long time now that we need an epitomized path type of system for the rate up 4 star characters, but who knows when it will happen.
That piano is so sick!
It's my favorite part for sure. Love the piano so much.
Hi man,
I'm commenting again bcs I'm itching to do so. Let's just start with the fact that I'm one of those people who initially doesn't really like his design but I kept my mind open until I know his story in-game. Which, I'm glad I did. He is by far my favorite character personality-wise and lore-wise (tied to Archon Quest).
You're talking about "isn't there supposed to be another excerpt" in 6:54. Maybe yeah. But I know why they probably wouldn't include it. It's bcs the entire words he says in that trailer is what clues it in. Everything he says are spoilers to who he is, what he is, what's his role in the Archon Quest.
Personally I'm saying "Hoyo is pulling a Furina but backwards". I know you're not in Fontaine rn so you won't understand what I'm saying.
Tldr, he's just a really great character. I can't wait to see his character teaser.
@wienzard93 Thanks for commenting! I see, that's interesting. We'll, I'm glad that you like his character. Seems like quite a few people do.
He won't be getting a teaser though, right?
4 stars don't tend to. Unless if I'm not aware of something.
@@TheRoschi oh wait.
Dang. I forgot about that. The JP and CN community were making a lil fuss right after his drip marketing bcs he was dripped as 4*. The communities I mentioned wanted him to be 5*. He's just that good. I read about his kit, it seems like he's one of the rare good sub DPS/support if you want to play electro charged team.
Now you know why I thought he would have a teaser 🤣
About something sleeping beneath the snow - I think this is his voice line when you go to Dragonspine.
They don't record separate voice lines for 4 star trailers (unlike 5 star trailers) so all the voice lines are from their profile page in the game.
Although they are arranged so good it is not noticeable.
@TheLastPhoen1x ooooh interesting. I did not know that's what they did with 4 stars. Thanks for sharing. :D
@@TheRoschi Since you've looked at his voicelines recently...go back and watch Kaeya's trailer again, the lines there will sound familiar. :)
@@anaplaysstuff I'm making a Kaeya theory vid as we speak. I've seen and heard all sorts of neat things. :)
We really went from kaeya walking to 4 stars having better demo's than some 5 stars
Very true!
So for me the problem with 5 stars and 4 stars is twofold.
1. It's impossible to guarantee getting a specific 4 star, and this time around I wouldn't be okay with it if I got one of the 5 stars on the banner in trying to pull for Ororon. I don't want Chasca and I already have Lyney. I'm still going to pull for him because he's easily my favourite Natlan character.
2. If he's not a 5 star he doesn't get a story quest. Now, he might still get a hangout, which would be cool. But only one character in all of Fontaine got a hangout so they might just be trying to phase them out in general. I'm not optimistic for the future of hangouts.
Yeah I can see that. It could be a little rough.
I'd like Hoyoverse to implement another character selector banner when pulling if possible, including 4 stars or maybe specifically to target 4 stars.
They're going to need to do something 'cause their current cycling through characters isn't cutting it anymore. There's too many.
Ororon kinda has a small arc in the main Natlan archon quest, but I'd love to see more for him if possible. Maybe in an event story?
@@Crusader050 Small arc? He has the biggest arc of any Natlan character. But still yes I'd take any more Ororon I can get.
@@bookswithike3256 I guess he did span across two archon acts, but I'd argue Mualani had a larger arc (and a story quest) in the first two acts of the archon quest. But I suppose small wasn't the right word to use, but maybe decently sizable? Which would still contribute to my point, he's been covered by the archon quest already so it's unlikely we'll see more - but I'd be happy to see more!
@@Crusader050 I don't feel like Mualani has much of an arc at all in the AQ. She's still one of my favourite Natlan characters, don't get me wrong, but she's kind of already an actualised person before the AQ starts and I can't think of any personal change she undergoes. I think the strongest argument for someone who has more of an arc than Ororon is Kachina, but even then I don't think so. But we obviously can't get into the weeds of that discussion in this comment section.
I am definitely pulling for Ororon! I'm hoping I don't get Chasca, but I have to get Ororon so if I get her, I get her. I can't pass Ororon up 😁 I loved his trailer! They really stepped up for this 4 star who technically should have been a 5 star. Ahem, but that's neither here or there; I just know that I am excited to get him!
I look forward to see what they do with more 4 star characters in the future.
Best of luck to you! :D
I'm not super interested in either Chasca or Lyney but I'm going to risk getting one of them just so I can try to snipe Ororon, hahah.
Same.
Sounds a little risky, but best of luck! Hope you get him. :)
@@TheRoschi Oh it is, but that's why I have an alt account. I'm saving for Mavuika on my main. :)
@@bookswithike3256same
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*eats popcorn*
Im a little surprised to see people not wanting Chasca. She can self swirl, and is better than Wanderer in almost every way. Im only not pulling for Chasca because Im in saving mode for the pyro archon, but I'd be willing to drop a few ten pulls to see if I can get an Ororon. I want me a batman for my Neuvillette!
As far as her playstyle goes, I'll hold my judgement till I get to try out her test run. There are plenty of things that seem interesting enough about her, but I can see why some may not want to pull at the same time for other reasons.
Best of luck getting the archon whenever they drop. :)
5 star trailer for a 4 star Character….. will definitely pull for Ororon. He should have been a 5 star.
Best of luck to you :D
but for me ororon is the first male character that for me im interested outside that he's an archon etc. since day1, the reason i pull male character is must have a strong side that make me want to pull. like zhongli is the archon, itto jp va is my favorite legend singer, kaveh's personality really like me so much, etc. i love his design so much and his color palette too, and his game mechanic really unique. also one reason that i cant tell you because its spoiler hahaha.
They always pair new four stars with new five stars released in the first half, but I still want some older (mostly support) characters, so no Ororon for me I guess.
Dragonspine, Kaeya 👀Roschi is cooking something 🔥
My kitchen is on fire
I like Ororon, but this trailer It's too flashy for me, I mean it's a cool trailer, but I don't even see what's going on. Is that his ability or special effects? first time seeing that trailer, its all blends in.
I don't even know if I'm gonna pull for him, that banner is not looking good, other 4 stars in that banner is... something, and I don't interested in Chasca, maybe I'll try to get one copy of Ororon in Lyney's banner but I'm not sure if I wanna risk getting 5star I don't need
@Undertaker-kj4fe I agree with you. The trailer is cool but at this point it looks more like I'm watching some tripped out AMV... There's a lot that I do like about it, but a little more cohesion would be nice.
Same.
This is probably the most confusing character demo/trailer I've seen, even though I've completed all content in Natlan... 😅 Makes me really curious about what role he will play in the future
Understandable! I think it was pretty cool but it did feel all over the place for sure. My curiosity is peeked though at the very least.
That trailer doesn't look like a 4* demo at all, not with the ost at least.
The OST goes so hard. I was getting Raiden Shogun vibes at times. Maybe that's just because of how it's electro or something with the fast edits.
I dont like him
That's ok. You don't have to. :)
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