Why Is Eleven Not Called Oneteen?
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As I mentioned in this video this is covering numbers in just the English language. But what number naming conventions are there in your language?
Name Explain In French 1-16 have their own names. And after that numbers that don’t end with 0 have their names similar to English. Example: Dix-Sept. Where Dix means 10 and Sept means 7, meaning 17.
but why is 12 also called "dozen"
or why is an amount of twelve "a dozent"
For dutch, the ten parts are flipped (same with german), for example, 56 would be zesenvijftig, or six and fifty
@@camacaron06 similar to Portuguese, numbers until 15 have unique names e.g. 15
is quinze but 16 is dezesseis (similar to ten-six)
In Romance languages we do have oneteen abd twoteen.
From here on out, 6325 and 6326 will forever be known as Gangagoo and Blimbybop.
Lol
Lol
Cool, that works out since 6327 is BlibpyGang & 6328 is BlimbyGangGoBop.. haha
@bitfreakazoid: I'll see your Gangagoo, and raise you a Blimbybop!! :D
@@FrankSalman -- And 6,329 is Glimpybob. And 6,330 is Karen.
@@markmh835 and 6,321 is r/idontworkherelady
1:44
"Dude I have a cool theory!"
"What is it?"
"The numbers are drawn the way they are because it's the number of angles on them!"
"...That doesn't make any sense"
"Yeah it does!"
"What about 4, 5, 7 and 9?"
"Just shut up and add some angles"
What?
@@OmerMD I was making fun of how the theory makes no sense
@@commenturthegreat2915 yeah 7 is a huge stretch. I write it with one angle.
@@sixty2612 YOU do, but haven't you seen other people who draw a small horizontal line through the center? I've seen several of my teachers do that. I never understood why until now.
*"Eleven plus two"* is an anagram of *"twelve plus one".*
Science
Shit. Can’t argue with that.
Magic number 13
@@vinny9868 x. X. X zzz a x Cc cc c xx c c. , xbl
An anagram of Wisconsin is _cows in sin._ It makes you wonder what's going on in Wisconsin...
English: 34=Thirtyfour
German: 34=Four and Thirty
French: 34= Ten plus Ten plus Ten whackadoodle yackabingbong Frog Snail Wine Coitus
When I started to learn French I came to the conclusion kids in France need to learn to add and multiply before they can learn to count. Who the hell decided that the best way to say 85 was "four twenty five"?
@@qazplmm632 nice to know.
That's juste ''trente quatre'' which is exactly like ''thirty four''. W h a t e v e r.
@@tidusdotexe you must be fun at parties.
@@1337fraggzb00N I don't go to parties.
Nah tbf your "joke" just doesn't work. Real question, why do english speaking people always make fun bout french culture & language?
I'm not complaining or arguing btw, just trying to understand.
Interesting how the old English pronounciation of these numbers sounds more like how we pronounce them in the Netherlands.
Well old english and dutch are both germanic in origin so it makes sense
@@strider04 Well at least English didn't pick up the French way of letting everything go completely off the rails after the 60's while the Normans were buggering up half the language lol.
The base of english is Old frisian with a heavy admixture of Anglic and a touch of Saxon. After that is a crap ton of the usual known influences. So properly futhorc is anglo-frisian runes but saying that will still cause violent arguments even though it's been proven and known for a very long time. So english is a north western germanic language, which is another fighting phrase in lay linguistics and history.
@@notme1797 Ok, wow. You know quite a bit of this! Nice.
Is that interest, or is it what you do for a living?
Check out YTer Simon Roper. He speaks and goes into a lot of Englidh throughout the centuries. It seems that Old English is understandabke in today's Dutch and Norse.
Why isn't 2 pronounced as zero two?
Justin Y.
because it’s just 2
unless if it’s 02
When are you going to start posting videos?
Probably because ‘2’ is one of the basic number’s. (0-9)
We don't want it to start yelling DARLING
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Ninety
Eighty
Seventy
Sixty
Fifty
Forty
Thirty
Twenty
*_TENTY_*
No it's onety
@@CoolCreations101
onety one
*_Zeroty_*
Fifty*
*forty
3:42 "Remember how in old English two was twa?"
*heart pumps faster*
"Well, in old English twenty was twatty".
In the seventies (and before) we were forced to memorise our multiplication tables up to 12x12 at school because our pre-decimal English currency had twelves in it. Interestingly, they didn't stop this practice until about a decade after decimalisation.
Actually this hasn't stopped. I learnt up to 12 times tables in school (I'm 22) and next year they're bringing in mandatory times tables test up to 12 for year 4 so it's very much still in practice
Harry Potter i learnt it and I’m 14
I'm american and they teach us that.
*French sweats heavily*
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The French-speaking Swiss understood life. They say "septante", "huitante", "nonante" for 70, 80, 90.
As a native non-Swiss French speaker, I try to emulate that, but it's hard when you're used to the standard (although nonsensical) way of counting.
j’ètudie le français
Quatre-Vingt dix-sept
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Still makes more sense than how the French do it tho. I mean at least we don't call 99 "four-twenty-ten-nine"
Edrick Ong you’re right
Funny thing is that some older English texts do something kinda similar such as the "Fourscore and seven years" in the Gettysburg address score is 20 so it's a roundabout way to say 87 at least roundabout by modern standards.
Cough cough quatre vingt dix neuf
@@seraphina985 yep, I was just studying the Gettysburg address and it reminded me of the way the French do it
Edrick Ong Out of the 4 languages I know learning counting in French was THE worst. I liked learning numbers in Japanese the most because the basic 0-10 stays forever. Like 99 would just be nine-ten-nine (kyuujuukyuu).
Your English is so good, I give you a Tenty percent, an A
Your English seems pretty decent too!
Is Tenty a typo of Twenty?
Thankfuly 11 and 12 make perfect sense in Czech. (My native language.)
We call them "jedenáct" and "dvanáct" which directly translates to "oneteen" and "twoteen" (jeden=one, dva=two and -náct=teen)
wait would that mean you would be a teenager when you turn 11
@@cutelittlepuppi_ Technically, I guess? lol
it wouldn't be called one tenth, it'd be called "firsteen"
Can 12 be twenteen?
12 twenteen
13 thirteen
14 fourteen
etc.
@@melody_dreams it'd be called secondteen
1-100 in Finnish language
*yksi, kaksi, kolme, neljä, viisi, kuusi, seitsemän, kahdeksan, yhdeksän, kymmenen, yksitoista, kaksitoista, kolmetoista, neljätoista, viisitoista, kuusitoista, seitsemäntoista, kahdeksantoista, yhdeksäntoista, kaksikymmentä, kaksikymmentäyksi, kaksikymmentäkaksi, kaksikymmentäkolme, kaksikymmentäneljä, kaksikymmentäviisi, kaksikymmentäkuusi, kaksikymmentäseitsemän, kaksikymmentäkahdeksan, kaksikymmentäyhdeksän, kolmekymmentä, kolmekymmentäyksi, kolmekymmentäkaksi, kolmekymmentäkolme, kolmekymmentäneljä, kolmekymmentäviisi, kolmekymmentäkuusi, kolmekymmentäseitsemän, kolmekymmentäkahdeksan, kolmekymmentäyhdeksän, neljäkymmentä, neljäkymmentäyksi, neljäkymmentäkaksi, neljäkymmentäkolme, neljäkymmentäneljä, neljäkymmentäviisi, neljäkymmentäkuusi, neljäkymmentäseitsemän, neljäkymmentäkahdeksan, neljäkymmentäyhdeksän, viisikymmentä, viisikymmentäyksi, viisikymmentäkaksi, viisikymmentäkolme, viisikymmentäneljä, viisikymmentäviisi, viisikymmentäkuusi, viisikymmentäseitsemän, viisikymmentäkahdeksan, viisikymmentäyhdeksän, kuusikymmentä, kuusikymmentäyksi, kuusikymmentäkaksi, kuusikymmentäkolme, kuusikymmentäneljä, kuusikymmentäviisi, kuusikymmentäkuusi, kuusikymmentäseitsemän, kuusikymmentäkahdeksan, kuusikymmentäyhdeksän, seitsemänkymmentä, seitsemänkymmentäyksi, seitsemänkymmentäkaksi, seitsemänkymmentäkolme, seitsemänkymmentäneljä, seitsemänkymmentäviisi, seitsemänkymmentäkuusi, seitsemänkymmentäseitsemän, seitsemänkymmentäkahdeksan, seitsemänkymmentäyhdeksän, kahdeksankymmentä, kahdeksankymmentäyksi, kahdeksankymmentäkaksi, kahdeksankymmentäkolme, kahdeksankymmentäneljä, kahdeksankymmentäviisi, kahdeksankymmentäkuusi, kahdeksankymmentäseitsemän, kahdeksankymmentäkahdeksan, kahdeksankymmentäyhdeksän, yhdeksänkymmentä, yhdeksänkymmentäyksi, yhdeksänkymmentäkaksi, yhdeksänkymmentäkolme, yhdeksänkymmentäneljä, yhdeksänkymmentäviisi, yhdeksänkymmentäkuusi, yhdeksänkymmentäseitsemän, yhdeksänkymmentäkahdeksan, yhdeksänkymmentäyhdeksän, sata*
100-1000
*sata, kaksisataa, kolmesataa, neljäsataa, viisisataa, kuusisataa, seitsemänsataa, kahdeksansataa, yhdeksänsataa, tuhat*
1000-10 000
*tuhat, kaksituhatta, kolmetuhatta, neljätuhatta, viisituhatta, kuusituhatta, seitsemäntuhatta, kahdeksantuhatta, yhdeksäntuhatta, kymmenentuhatta*
10 000-100 000
*kymmenentuhatta, kaksikymmentätuhatta, kolmekymmentätuhatta, neljäkymmentätuhatta, viisikymmentätuhatta, kuusikymmentätuhatta, seitsemänkymmentätuhatta, kahdeksankymmentätuhatta, yhdeksänkymmentätuhatta, satatuhatta*
100 000-1 000 000
*satatuhatta, kaksisataatuhatta, kolmeasataatuhatta, neljäsataatuhatta, viisisataatuhatta, kuusisataatuhatta, seitsemänsataatuhatta, kahdeksansataatuhatta, yhdeksänsataatuhatta, miljoona*
When you get asleep on your keyboard...
Joke aside, I really want to learn Finnish. Some of my favourite music comes from Finland.
Must have taken a long time for you to Finnish typing all that.
idk about 10 minutes
And as that’s obviously far too inefficient for practical use, you shorten them. Yks kaks kok nel viis...
perkele = infinity
Is the thumbnail Numberphile-coloured on purpose ? XD
What's numberphile?
Was wondering if anyone would notice.
@@sakyyk Cool channel by Brady Haran about maths. He interviews academics and they write on brown paper XD
@@NameExplain I did, and being math related more than language, I got upset
@@gigglysamentz2021 Actually, Numberphile and the other channels (Sixty Symbols, Periodic videos, etc..., all of them great, check them out) are owned by the British Royal University, but Brady does all of the editing and the administration for the videos, so, yeah.
Now we're asking real questions.
Shouldnt it be called onety-one?
11- onety one
22- twenty two
33- thirty three
Etc
There's a big flaw there in the way "Onety-one" sounds a lot like "Twenty-one".
One-ten-one you mean!
Just ten-one
It’s Eleventy-one! Have you not read The Lord of the Rings?
HK so ten should be onety
Ek - 1
Do - 2
Theen - 3
Chaar - 4
Panch - 5
Che - 6
Saath - 7
Aat - 8
No - 9
Das - 10
Gyara - 11
Bara - 12
Thera - 13
Choda - 14
Pandra - 15
Sola - 16
Sthara - 17
Atara - 18
Unis - 19
Bees - 20
Ikis - 21
Bis - 22
Thrays - 23
Chaubis - 24
Pachis - 25
Chyubis - 26
Stys - 27
Atys - 28
Untees - 29
Thees - 30
Iktis - 31
Buthis - 32
Thenthis - 33
Chauntis - 34
Penthis - 35
Chathis - 36
Senthis - 37
Arthis - 38
Unthalis - 39
Chalis - 40
It *IS* Urdu.
@@ishan1789 *gasp* did u just say the _n-word?_
@@ultralinguistics3083 No, he said nigger.
@@astral2048 its urdu
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It's hindi
Meanwhile, it was also pretty common to count up to 20 (score), so a lot of romance languages have remnants of that with most of their 11-20 numbers kinda being harder to break down cleanly. In French, they even still count 70-99 as if they were using pseudo-base-20. 70=sixty-ten (soixante-dix), 75=sixty-fifteen (soixante-quinze), 80=four-twenties (quatre-vingts), 90=four-twenty-ten (quatre-vingt-dix)
Nepolean did try to fix this to be purely base-10, but those changes didn't stick around except for a few places. Danish numbers are similarly nutty, with the way they try to convey twenties.
"Four score and seven years ago our forefathers...." Abraham Lincoln thought base twenty math led gravity to his Gettysburg Address.
Also, I've seen video of a guy from PNG explaining Papuan base twenty math. He used his fingers and the joints and segments of his arms to perform basic operations.
Georgian language also does that. I still don't understand why it goes only to 100, not to 200, why there is otkhmotsi (ოთხმოცი) for 80 (otkhi ოთხი - 4, m(eti) მ(ეტი) - more, otsi ოცი - 20), but no khutmotsi (ხუთმოცი) for 100 (khuti ხუთი - 5), they are using asi (ასი) for 100 instead
@@user-tk2jy8xr8b I suspect it's about usage. Normal, everyday people used numbers under 100 very commonly, so these conventions stuck around. But for numbers larger than that, it was mostly merchants and accountants working on those scales, and so they probably normalized things to be more in-line with what their neighbors were doing for trade reasons.
It's usually the words and phrases that are used most often that change very little over time, and as a result end up stuck with weird out dated rules that nobody remembers to context to.
The Danish names for the multiples of ten can get bloody interesting because they've been shortened so much over time that what used to be a system that made sense just looks weird. "Seventy", for example, is "halvfjerde" which looks like it should mean "half-fourth", but it comes from an older word "halvfjerdsindstyve" which means something like "half fourth lots of twenty", with Old Danish using a base-20 system, and a sort of "away from" system you see in written Roman numerals, e.g. IX = one from ten = nine, so here the "half" refers to half of a lot of 20, i.e. 10.
What's even weirder, though, is that "tyve" goes back to Proto-Germanic "tigiwiz", which is where the English "-ty" comes from. What seems to have happened between Old Norse "tuttugu" and Danish "tyve" is that the initial syllable was lost through haplology, so all that's remained of "tuttugu", basically, is the "-tugu", which is just "lots of ten". So then you get numbers like "tredive" and "fyrre" which come from Old Danish words "thretiughu" (three lots of ten) and a shortening of "fyrretyve" (four lots of ten), following a fairly standard base-10 system, but the "tyve" then also stands for "twenty" in numbers like "halvtredsindstyve" ("half from the third lot of twenty", i.e. "fifty").
So you've got one word doing double duty as "lots of ten" and "lots of twenty", which then gets dropped altogether, leaving a system that looks like "-ty, thir-ty, four(ty), half-third, third, half-fourth, fourth (again), half-fifth, hundred" (obviously oversimplifying), but that all comes from a system that actually used to make sense.
Then you've got the numbers from 1 to 100 in Hindi, which, although they do follow some sort of pattern, effectively look like 100 unique words.
And on top of that Denish system already confusing in written form, it blows You away how they "pronounce" it in the streets =)
@@jangelbrich7056 14 in particular
You can see the original endings in dutch as well, with 20 being twintig, and the old English spellings of the numbers being very close to the current Dutch and German ones
Spanish has similar number naming issues. 2 is dos. 10 Is diez. 16 is diez y seis. So 11 should be diez y uno, but it is actually once (oon-sey). 12 should be diez y dis, but it's doce (doe-sey).
The 60s come close in sound. Sesenta (60), but seis (6). Sesenta y uno, sesenta y dos, sesenta y tres, sesenta y cuatro are all valid. Tres (3) but treinta (30). Shouldn't we have tresenta, tresenta y uno, tresenta y dos, tresenta y tres....?
Treinta uno treinta dos treinta tres and so on
First is the decimal thing
@jocaguz18 well back in the early 90s, my Spanish teacher told us it can be both ways. Maybe it depends on what area you come from. Spanish in Spain is somewhat different compared to Latin American countries, which have differences from each other too.
I'm aware of the compound word way, but I was taught that both could work. I know in Spain, they use the second person plural (e.g., something like hablaís) but not so much in Honduras.
Maybe the compound numbers are similar.
@jocaguz18 quizá es como así en España, pero en otros países? Mis amigos en Honduras dicen los números separados, cómo diez y seís, cuarenta y ocho...
@jocaguz18 pretty rude of you to talk about the education of people you never even met. I won't lower myself to that level.
Spanish is spoken differently in different areas. That doesn't make one dialect wrong and another right. English is similar, even within the USA.
just saying, the right pronunciation for once is not "oon-sey" but "on-theh". same thing goes for "doh-theh".
This happens for numbers from 11 to 15, and it comes from latin: (11)once-undecim, (12)doce-duodecim, etc.
As far as I remember, I was taught Latin numbers that had the opposite problem. Decim was ten, then you used the first seven as suffixes with modification. Undecim, duodecim, tredecim, et cetera. But 18 and 19 were minus twenty. Duo de vigint and un de vigint. Forgive me my horrid spelling, Dr. Lusardi. Also to this day I only ever pronounce the dipthing ae in classical Latin fashion as rhyming with eye.
In German we have Elf and Zwölf(11 & 12)
I think this is a Germanic language thing isn't it?
(this happens if you comment before you watch the video xD)
Ekn _38 eleven and twelve is not so different from the German versions.
Yeah, that's it :-0
In Swedish it's Elva and Tolv.
In russia its odinnadcat' and dwenadcat'
I love Blimbybop 😂
Silly Name Explain thought Blimbybop was 6326, when it's actually 6263.
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@@mohamedmouzaoui2591 الحمد لله في شي
I love numbers that involve a Chinese man doo doo in your mouth
@@Debre. so 6263 is blimbybop while 6362 is bopblimby?
That was a fantastic video - it could very easily be used in an educational environment.
And the Old English... well sort of is Germanic. You can hear the German counting numbers in the Moden English.
And the form certainly is not as in the Romance languages.
Thousands, Millions, Billions.
Don't forget long scale: Milliard, Billiard...
Billiard... Sounds like a certain bar game
It's obvious why it's not "oneteen." I learned my whole life that it was "onety one."
This is why Octopuses use 8 as their base number system.
@Draevon May No, but then maybe you only have 8 digits. Easy mistake.
@Draevon May Yes true, the octopuses write 10 now, but you're forgetting that before the Spencer Gulf War where the squids were soundly defeated, they wrote the numeral 8. As a result the cuttlefish had to change to the Octopode system and have been short changed ever since.
As did the computer industry before the IBM System/360 was introduced in 1964, grouping bits by fours, eights, etc. Most computers and peripherals had bits grouped by trios, so documents (and some displays) used one octal digit to represent three bits: 0=000, 1=001, 2=010, ... 7=111. Some older manuals and equipment still use octal. There’s even a mathematical pun “proving” that Halloween is the same as Christmas: 31-Oct=25-Dec!
@@allanrichardson1468 That is some insight right there. As an octopus might say, "That is deep".
I thought the plural of octopus was octopi, similar to how the plural for cactus is cacti.
You can count in base twelve on fingers, all the way to 12*12+12 = 156
You just have to point at one of the twelve finger joints (little finger to index) with the thumb of the same hand.
Then the second hand can do the number of dozens.
And 12 has factors of 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12.
Not only is that more than 10's 1, 2 5, and 10, but it means you can easily divide it in halfs, thirds, and quarters (the most practical every day fractions) while staying in whole numbers.
That's why a foot is 12 inches.
No need to be so complicated. You just have to add "fist" ("no fingers") and you get to 12 instead of 10.
Only have to decide which scheme to use:
(a) fist, one finger, two fingers, three fingers, four fingers, five fingers, second hand fist, second hand 1 finger, second hand 2 fingers, second hand 3 fingers, second hand 4 fingers, second hand 5 fingers.
(b) one finger, two fingers, three fingers, four fingers, five fingers, fist, second hand 1 finger, second hand 2 fingers, second hand 3 fingers, second hand 4 fingers, second hand 5 fingers, second hand fist.
(c) one finger, two fingers, three fingers, four fingers, five fingers, second hand 1 finger, second hand 2 fingers, second hand 3 fingers, second hand 4 fingers, second hand 5 fingers, one fist., two fists
.
And this is why Imperial measures :) Well, up until some random base 16 snuck in and screwed it all up... thanks Brits! ;)
No need to point when you can do base 6. Technically, finger counting is easiest in base _11_ rather than 10 due to how bases actually work, though 11 isn't very convenient as a base, so it's better to split up the hands into 2 base 6 digits.
Though, if you're really good and have incredible control over your fingers, you can count on binary and make every single finger a separate digit, letting you count as high as 1023 on both hands. If you ignore thumbs, then you have a perfect byte with each hand being a nybble.
If you're counting in dozenal, how do you actually represent 2 digit numbers if you need a finger from the other hand to point?
There are a few number's with special names though... Pi, Euler's Number, Grahams Number, Googol, Googolplex...
And also a little funny thing from German: As we call Eleven "Elf", Twelve "Zwölf", some people here jokingly call thirteen ("Dreizehn") "Drölf". Also in German "Elf" is a homonym to the mythical creature "Elf", which sometimes lead comedy writer's to one-up elves by creating the race of the "Zwölfen" ("Twelves").
Haha, that's great. :D I just had to google "Zwölfen Lied", but sadly there's no anime with that name. :(
@@seneca983 someone should create a parody anime called that :D
How to count to 20 in my language
1 = yack
2 = do
3 = say
4= char
5 = pynch
6= shash
7 = aft
8 = Asht
9 = no
10= da
11= yasda
12= do was da
13 = says da
14 = char da
15 = panza
16 = shan za
17 = ab da
18 = ashda
19 = nose da
20 = beest
I speak dari btw
I have been looking at sites to find out how each number got its name and failed miserably at everyone of them, luckily I found this video.
Whats the brother of Elvis called?
Jesse. It's Jesse I don't know what you were thinking, dad.
Dad? As if I wouldn't have you aborted
One feature of English is that we give special names for ten and hundred and then for every power of 10^3: thousand, million, etc. We then use ten and hundred to modify intermediate powers of 10. In Chinese, they give special names to every power of 10^4 rather than 10^3. At the school I worked at, our headmaster once said that our city had 400 million people. The mistake was made because he really meant what he’d say in Chinese as 400 10-thousand people, that is 4 million.
Allan Boone In translation, you could use “myriad,” derived from the Greek word for ten thousand, so the city in question has four thousand myriad people.
@@allanrichardson1468 400 myriads, actually, not 4000.
mike4ty4 Oops! I must have been sleepy then!
As German being my mother language, we have similar conventions, but with a distinct difference: we say "Vierundzwanzig" (four and twenty) for 24. And if my English Sherlock Holmes books are correct, this was also the case in the English language until the beginning of the 20th century. And I always wondered why it was changed - or why it wasn't changed in German as well
People have tried to change it in German, even as early as the 15 hundreds, but it never took off
twenty-four is quite simple than your "Vierundzwanzig"
I hate it being that way, you don't wanna know how many times I mistook a number for another because of the German order.
I'd never really given much thought to 11 & 12 even after learning a different language, which is more logical with numbers. Cheers 👍
I'm an (American) English teacher, love your videos and captivated by your accent - bravo
0:52 Bill Cosby has joined the chat.
Did he bring refreshments?
@@BatTaz19 I don't know
I... Uh can't remember I think he did.
🤣🤣🤣
@@BatTaz19 I wouldn't be touching those "refreshments"!
If you think English is bad for number names, then you haven't seen French
You're obviously thinking of 70-99, but it's no worse than the other Romance languages for numbers less than that.
JayTemple tbh, i don't really know about the other romance languages, i only know French, but regardless, it's still confusing
Quatre-Vingt dix-Neuf mille neuf cent quatre-Vingt dix-Huit.
Or in English:
Ninety-nine Thousand nine-hundred ninety-eight
@oldgranny athlete: Totally. 30 is "trente," 40 is "quarante," 50 is "cinqante," and 60 is "soixante," but for some reason, 70-79 are "soixante-dix, soixante-onze, etc." 80 is "quatre-vingt" and 90-99 are "quatre-vingt-dix, quatre-vingt-onze, etc." 70, 80, and 90 should be "septante," "huitante," and "neufante."
@@JayTemple I can't speak for Romanian but Spanish and Italian have logical numbers for 70 80 and 90, sesenta, ochenta, and noventa in Spanish, not quarte vingt dix or literal translation 4x20+10 for ninety. A name explain on why French does it this way would be interesting.
This was really interesting as a system. I speak a bit of German and am familiar with the numbers so the whole process was easy enough to understand. The logic behind different structures as a whole is quite interesting though, like systems potentially based around a dozen, ten (based on fingers, as is mentioned), and Roman numerals, which have a similar idea of 'one after ten, two after ten, etc.'
In polish 11 and 12 are actually oneteen and twoteen (jedenaście and dwanaście respectively). -naście means -teen and we also have a very handy word "kilkanaście" which literally means severalteen, so any number between 11 and 19
Little comment : It's not that eleven and twelve come from old German; it's that they come from Proto-Germanic, which is not the same thing at all. Proto-Germanic is the common ancestor of Germanic languages, while Old German refers to medieval German, which was contemporary to Anglo-saxon (Old English). The way you said it made it sound like it was a borrowing from Old German to Old English, or even worse, that English comes from German, both being false.
Yes they get confused by seeing "German" in "Germanic" and assume it's the same thing.
So, not my expertise, but I am under the impression that English is indeed a Germanic language.
@@kcgunesq Old English was. Modern English is a strange hybrid between Germanic and Romance with a fair bit of Greek.
@@mikespearwood3914 Let's not mix up things here. Sure, when it comes to lexicon, you are right, more that 50% of Modern English lexicon comes from either French or Latin (not that much from Greek, actually, at least not directly); however, the core of Modern English (grammar and basic words) is still very Germanic.
Mike Spearwood no
Why is one-hundred eleven not Eleventy-one?
ronal - Have you read "The Hobbit"?
@@uekiguy5886 read no, seen films yes
@@Bandana_Banana - I don''t recall if he says it in the movie, but in the book, Bilbo Baggins refers to his age as "eleventy-one". Perhaps you're part Hobbit.
@@uekiguy5886 I'm not convinced, unless he has elevensies after breakfast but before lunch.
@@synkkamaan1331 - Touche.
Because we want to confuse foreigners trying to learn the English language
Its the same in Persian so you're not gonna confuse us lol
It’s a joke
English may be tough but it can be understood through thorough thought though.
@@Triumph263 omg
It's actually an intentional strategical war tactic so that the enemy finds it harder to decipher. This is legit information don't worry.
You can count in base-12 on your hands too though:
Hold your hand palm-up, and look at the segments of your non-thumb fingers. Now curl your thumb in and point it at the base of your index finger; that's 1. Move the tip of your thumb to point at the middle of your index; that's 2. Then the tip is 3. Continue across all four fingers and the tip of your pinky makes 12.
*The number 3 will soon be pronounced as free*
Uh-oh!
I like the little flags and the beard for other languages and ancient ones, it makes it very clear XD
Once when I was tired in class, I said "sixteen" as "eleventy-six"
But there’s no such number as “Eleventy”. We would have two new symbols for Ten and Eleven. And Twelve would be written as 10.
I'm aware, take note this comment was about me being in a math class once while I was tired.
Haha I’m pretty sure I’ve thought something similar before! But now that I think about it, eleventy-six would probably look more like 116, no?
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Number names in our language is clusterfuck so we just write numbers in our language
0-০(shunya)
1-১(aek)
2-২(dui)
3-৩(teen)
4-৪(char)
5-৫(paanch)
6-৬(choi)
7-৭(saat)
8-৮(ath)
9-৯(noi)
10(dosh)
20(kuri)
30tereesh)
40(chollish)
50(ponchas)
60(shath)
70(sottor)
80(ashi)
90(nobboi)
100(aksho)
I have included 0 to 9th digit, how do they look like in our language and spelling of the numbers in our language in brackets.
Been looking for a video likes this, thanks.
The number 10,000 is called a myriad, but how many people still use that word with its actual meaning?
I suggested using it in my English class 2 weeks ago. My teacher said no to it because she didn't expect everyone to know what it means because it is a really good word and was also "difficult to spell" -we are 11 to 12 year olds. That was a sad time.
East Asian countries still use 10,000-base for large numbers.
1,000,000 would be like "A hundred myriad"
I really thought you were going to say "Twatty" (3:44)
Not counting thumbs we have twelve segments to our fingers. The thumbs are now just pointers to count lol
You can also use finger to represent binary
@@thearmyofiron this is the most savage and funny comment of 2019
It will totally fly under the radar tho
@@skyluke9476 lol ok
you can count to 12 by using your thumb to point out a section on the palm side of your fingers
if you look at your fingers from the palm side, you'll notice 2 lines and 3 sections
use those 3 sections to count with your thumb to point each section everytime you count
there is an article about this somewhere
That was utterly pleasant. I especially like your drawings.
Carats! let's say it together!
"SEVENTEEN!"
"EIGHTEEN"
"NINETEEN"
*"TwO TEeN"*
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Oneteen? Pah!
I'll always call it onety-one.
I'm surprised you didn't pronounce zero as nought.
5:38 You actually don't need an extra pair of fingers to count to 12, you can actually do it with just one hand. Each of you fingers are divided into three joints, and since you have 4 fingers you have 12 joints, and you can point to one with your thumb to count. In fact, you can even count up to 156 with this method if you use your other hand to count sets of 12 at the same time. You can also count up to 1,023 with your hands by using binary, fingers down representing 0 and fingers up representing 1.
1 - En
2 - To
3 - Tre
4 - Fire
5 - Fem
6 - Seks
7 - Syv
8 - Åtte
9 - Ni
10 - Ti
11 - Elleve
12 - Tolv
13 - Tretten
14 - Fjorten
15 - Femten
16 - Seksten
17 - Sytten
18 - Atten
19 - Nitten
20 - Tjue
(Norwegian is a Germanic language. Then -ten means 10+whatever prefix added to it)
The explainer of 21st Century is..........
Name Explain 😂😀😂
I though it was a numberphile video xd
Easy,we arent the french....
FOUR TWENTIES......(80)
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I have actually wondered about some of these things. A very enjoyable video.
The base 8 numbering system has always been the most logical to use to me. It's easy to split. Recursively halving 8 (or 10 in base 8) patterns to 4, 2, 1, .4, .2, .1, .04, .02, .01,...
Teacher: *Why do we drink water*
Me: *cUz We CAn e4t it*
Interesting vid. Shouldn't the "base 12" illustration have different single characters, like A, B, C, instead of 10, 11, 12, similar to hexidecimal?
Why not onety-one
I've often wondered if numbers are infinite, does that mean their are numbers represented by every possible combination of letters? So Gangagoo and Blimbybop would be actually be the names of numbers?
In polish it's:
1 jeden
2 dwa
3 trzy
4 cztery
5 pięć
6 sześć
7 siedem
8 osiem
9 dziewięć
10 dziesięć
Then you just add -naście (with few changes):
11 jede-naście
12 dwa-naście
13 trzy-naście
14 czter-aście
15 pięt-naście
16 szes-nascie
17 siedem-naście
18 osiem-naście
19 dziewięt-naście
And then add -dzieścia/ści/siąt:
20 dwa-dzieścia
30 trzy-dzieści
40 czter-dzieści
50 pięć-dziesiąt
60 sześć-dziesiąt
70 siedem-dziesiąt
80 osiem-dziesiąt
90 dziewięć-dziesiąt
It’s called eleven because the people at 7 Eleven wanted to have a good name that could be easily said so they invented Eleven so now we have 7 Eleven
711 = Seven Eleven
Why Is Twenty Not Called Tenteen?
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They were going to call it "Colin", but it didn't sound right.
English is Germanic
Ja so ist es
English is half German and half French.
Don Linn nice try smart boy, not only germanic
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Yes, that’s a pretty good description. It is part of the West Germanic languages. Luxembourgish for example have even more French influences but it’s also a West Germanic language.
@@gladysseaman4346 grammar and simple day to day vocabulary is mostly still germanic and very close sometimes to modern german
1-Ek
2-Dui
3-Tin
4-Char
5-Panch
6-Chhoy
7-Sat
8-At
9-Noy
10-Dosh
11-Egaro
12-Baro
20-Kuri
30-Tiris
We don't have 12 fingers for a base-12 counting system, but we do have 12 'segments' (parts separated by joints) across our 4 fingers on each hand. Leaves our thumb free to count on them, too!
Numbers take so long to say in English. A lot of French numbers are half the syllables:
Thousand -> Mille
Hundred -> Cent
Thirty -> Trente
Twenty -> Vingt
Sixteen -> Seize
Fifteen -> Quinze
Thirteen -> Treize
Eleven -> Onze
Seven -> Sept
All the French ones I wrote here are one syllable.
So saying 15,711 is
Fifteen thousand seven hundred and eleven (11 syllables) -> Quinze mille sept cent onze (5 syllables)
So yeah I'd go crazy in an English Maths class XD
Also inconvenient that all the -teen sounds like all the -ty. People ask for confirmation all the time XD
Now I could also look at everything wrong with French numbers XD
There is a problem with the numbers in french (except the 70-80-90 thing) :
The name of 17, 18 and 19 ... why ?
Because the number is literally "ten" + something
example : 19 : _dix-neuf_ is "ten-nine"
This way when somebody is giving you a serie of numbers you can't tell the difference between _...,10, 9, ..._ and _...,19, ..._ !
@@pawion Yeah that one can be slightly confusing if you're not careful, but it is solved by pronunciation and pauses. The difference between saying "diss...neuf" and "dizneuf"
@@gigglysamentz2021 That's right, the pronunciations slightly differ
Wow, I was your 42nd view at the time I was typing this comment. The meaning of life.
Nobody cares, I know.
Where the HECK does the word bootleg come from
Bootleg liquor was carried in small bottles in the leg of one's boots to avoid detection.
Bootleg is Dutch for blimpybop.
We do have base-12 on our hands: If you use your thumb to count the 3 segments of each of the 4 fingers, that is 12. If you use the other hand as 5 digits like we usually do, but to count how many times the other hand has counted 12, you can count to 60. I have heard that this is how early base twelve civilizations, like the Sumerians among others, may have counted. Cheers.
"It's one - b hex. How else would you pronounce 1B" - George Driver. "B teen." - Me, throwing a monkey wrench in his lesson on hexadecimal.
A better question is why is 97 “quatre-vingt-dix-sept” in French? Wtf is that about?
Part of chemistry is learning nomenclature. Some chemicals have names like water. We don't call water Dihydrogen Oxide. but we do call Co2, carbon dioxide. Chemical nomenclature is a discription, more than a name. We call water water, because it is something on human level. People can ask, "Do you want a glass of water?" It's not likely that some is going to ask, "Do you want a glass of Dihydrogen sulfide?" Numbers have regular names, because the mean something on human level, and they are given discriptive name because we don't use them commonly. We have ten toes, Twenty digits, but I don't plexy hairs. Numbers have real names, and discriptive names.
The 30 seconds where you answered the question were super interesting.
what software do you use to render your images?
"These numbers aren't remnant of Old English but remnants of Old German."
What do you mean by that? It sounds like Old English used to have different words for 11 and 12 but they were replaced with the Old German words. And as you mentioned, special words for 11 and 12 presumably already existed in (Proto-)Germanic ('ainlif' and 'twalif'). After Old English "evolved" from Germanic, that would mean somewhere between Germanic and Old English the special words for 11 and 12 were replaced by other words and then, in the time of Old English, those other words were replaced by the Old German words.
If that is what you meant, I wonder: What were these words for 11 and 12 in Old English before they were replaced?
I think he confused "Germnic" with "German", which are of course two very different things. Note that in the slide with the proto-germanic "ainalif" and "twalif", two german flags are shown (which is wrong and misleading).
We do have 12 joints on the 4 fingers of each hand so 12 could be counted on your hand. 12 can be divided by 2, 3, 4 and 6 which means a base 12 system would be useful.
When it comes to complexity you can not go past the French number system.
In most languages 11 12 have unique names. It is because before the decimal system (0-9) we used the duodecimal system (0-12) . Duodecimal is practical because it can be easy divided by 2 3 4 6. Remnants of these system are still products sold by the dozen.
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Hey, about that 'two more fingers' to grow to count in base 12 - we are capabile biologically to count in base 12 since on our hand, each one, on just 4 fingers (a hand excluding a thumb) we have 12 'sections' as each of those 4 fingers is divided on 3 'sections' by joints. It would not only make visualizing more fractions easier but it would be easier to count on fingers for people with missing hand etc
This is why I liked learning numbers when I took Japanese. Cause it’s ichi (1), ni (2), san (3), yon (4), go (5), roku (6), nana/shichi (7), hachi (8), kyuu (9), and juu (10) but then after that it’s just a combination of those words based off ten (juu).
Like 12 is juuni which is just 10+2. Then 20 is nijuu which is 2 10’s. And even when you get off rounded numbers you keep the same idea starting from 20 but just add the ones place digit word after. Like 25 is nijuugo (ni-2, juu-10, go-5). 50 would be gojuu (go being 5 and again, juu is 10) but 58 would be gojuuhachi (with go being 5, juu being 10, and hachi being 8).
Once you get to hundreds you just add place values which is hyaku, sen, & man if I’m remembering correctly and that’s like English you say it at the place value. Like 300 would technically be san-hyaku (but it’s actually pronounced sanbyaku) and then you keep the same trend going. So 325 becomes sanbyaku nijuu go (sanbyaku being 300, nijuu being 20, and go being 5).
Note this is just for basic counting numbers because there are some exceptions for things like age (like if I’m remembering correctly I think 20 for age is hatachi. So you wouldn’t say “I’m nijuu years old” you say “I’m hatachi years old”).
And depending which base number you’re using words can have different pronunciation. Like I said before 300 is sanByaku even tho the place word for 100 is hyaku. More examples, 8 isn’t hachihyaku it’s shortened to happyaku and 6 is roppyaku. And then like while sen is 1,000 place 3000 wouldn’t be sansen 3000 is actually pronounced sanZen
I'm a HUGE proponent of base 12. Base 12 math is generally easier and it makes sense for a lot of the things we do, like tell time. Also, you can count to 12 on just one hand. Rather than counting whole fingers as one, count each of the digits of your four fingers (no thumbs needed). Each finger has 3 digits, four fingers makes 12.
Counting to twelve on one hand is a lot less impressive when you know how to count to 31 on one hand, and without needing the other hand to point leaving it to count to another 31 independently for a total of 1024 possible values.
Then again, it takes very good control to pull it off, so it's easier to use base 6 where each hand has 0 to 5 fingers raised for a maximum value of 35.
0:28 What's The Language?
In Bahasa, we don't have this problem, we have "se" or "satu" for 1, "puluh" for "ty", "belas" for teen and so on. it is satu(1) for one, se(1)puluh(x 10) for 10, se(1)belas(+ 10) for eleven, dua(2)puluh(x 10) for 20, and so on
In Vietnamese we say ten one (muoi mot) for eleven, ten two (muoi hai) for twelve, and so forth. And for twenty-one (hai muoi mot) we say two ten one, twenty-two (hai muoi hai) is two ten two.
I think this should be the format"
10 Ten
11 Deci-one
12 Deci-two
13 Deci-three
14 Deci-four
15 Deci-five
16 Deci-six
and so on,
20 = Twenty-One like normal
We assume that there is a mathematical reason for using decimal based system. ( 10 counts per digit ) why not hexdecimal ? as far as I know there are no "names" for values a through f used in hex decimal systems. besides just using the alphabet names for the symbols.
a= 10
b - 11
f = 15
1a = 26
a1 = 161
But instead of saying "Ay"-One should we say, alpha one? what about f2 ?
You can actually count to twelve on your hands. Each finger, except the thumb, has three segments so you can place your thumb on one of the segments of the same hand as the thumb you used and use that to keep track of what number you're on right now. onc you have one hand full you can use the same tactic on the other hand to keep track of how many multiples of twelve you have. in the end you can count to 144 quite easily without loosing track of where you are.