@@Yomest-ip3tq thanks, I honestly don't know what to form next, I've already done the roman empire, the British empire, the French empire, the Spanish empire, republic of china, the Macedonian Empire, the German empire, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman empire, Assyrian empire, and formed the European Union as Belarus. But I guess I'm probably gonna do the Portuguese empire next.
@@Idkwhatotputhere play as Ukraine and liberate Moldova, then release transnistria, destroy the Ukrainian economy cuz why not, then play as transnistria and do whatever
Planes scare me way more AC is easy to counter if you have good navy and use tanks. Plane fighting is so scary because it makes me have to spend time macroing air which is super annoying.
Artillery and AA spam is much scarier i destroyed a carrier a few battleships and around 1400 attack bombers fully maxed except for the bomber only 1000% global damage. I played as new zealand and i didn't even expand my territory. I had 12 fighters 30k infantry 2200 artillery 900 AA 4 Submarines. Static line defence with non aligned and maxed resistance and 30% AA attack with general. All support upgrades except mobility.
honestly, yes, the AC needs a nerf, but you know what's more annoying than an aircraft carrier? mass scorching, imagine you're playing a normal match as france, germany decides to attack you but you manage to wipe out his entire army and now you're marching straight towards the rhine, but germany decides to scorch all of his lands and leave.. annoying, isn't it? they should add something like a scorch limit, where you can only scorch 10-20 cities every 300 seconds or so, that would make the game a lot better and a lot less annoying.
Scorching existed is not bad as it makes it harder for big nations to just annex smaller nations because of their larger armies. Main issue is that sometimes people just scorch their entire country and leave ruining their country but preventing an invasion so just ruining the game.
I feel like the counter to ac with attackers can just be countered by good fighters with the ac. Nowadays having actual aircraft on your ac is actually important, whereas before the buff it was absolutely not necessary at all
That’s true but moving your aircraft carrier with aircraft on it makes weird interactions. You should be able to have aircraft and a carrier move together so you don’t lose fuel or anything weird like that
i remember back in the day when i was somewhat a noob, and an italy player destroying me while i was france because he got an aircraft carrier like 5 minutes into the game
There is another way to kill an AC. It was late game and I was Switzerland. The USA declared war on my without bordering me because I almost had nukes. He sent an AC towards me (plus a lot of infantry, tanks and artillery) and I destroyed his AC with 100 artillery very easily, which tech I had been upgrading for a while now. I also killed 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and some frigates along with the AC with the same arty. Yeah the arty is just OP
The big issue with that is that nobody would use it. An idea I have is that it would cost 100 million but it buffs planes around it and the closer it is the stronger the buff is as well as functioning as an airport.
i was playing cyprus a few days ago and usa attacked me for no reason, i only had libya which his ally egypt and him bordered. He tried to wp me but i rejected and he sent an ac with a shit ton of escorts next to it, i basically one shot his ac with arty, i thought he disbanded it because of how fast it turned to dust😭😭
hey small correction, AA does not actually reduce damage of the AC in game! i tested it a while back 1 AC attacking 1m troops and even with 100k AA with the AC in range of it along with the infantry the damage was the exact same per turn
Anti aircraft with range 5 undoes the carrier completely I played as finland once and germany united all of europe except for me, he spawned a navy which includes an aircraft carrier, but i just got a bunch of anti aircraft and the carrier did pretty much nothing after 5 years (he eventually gave up after 6 million losses and left)
battleships personally became really fun to me with 1400% attack, I was able to wipe out an full instanbul garrison late game of 2 million with four battleships in two months with fort and arty only lost 1 battle
If you stack enough navy bonuses and choose a destroyer doctrine, then no aircraft in the world could possibly defeat your navy if you just spam a crap ton of destroyers ngl.
Get an ac, get some destroyers, subs and a battleship. Leave fighters on the carrier, so no attackers will try to kill ur navy and do the same with attackers so they can kill anti-air. Thats it
@SANS-os6px i was talking about how to make ac insanely overpowered, not about killing ur economy with it, also, this is mainly for mid-late game when 15m upkeep won't really do anything
It was late game and i was a fully developed south Africa union and had researched nukes fully ottoman empire made 2 aircraft carriers carrying both 50 bombers or so i hade 10 nukes and had a small land wich can be absolutely demolished by bombers so i nuked both aircraft carriers with the bombers and he white peaced
I rarely use and see aircraft carriers anymore. In most wars i can win by just spamming infantry and tanks, and i don't need any other units to kill their units. It's just not worth it to make shipyards in the early game and in late game, wars happen less often
Tbh I think naval warfare was gutted. Like it’s a fun idea to make naval aircraft matter, but they should’ve made aircraft carriers actually work as a carrier of aircraft before that so there can be some counter-counterplay. Also the anti air buff should be reversed. It made defensive play way more annoying. Honestly the anti-air buff is kinda a symptom of the RON devs not really having a concept of good balance and always choosing the least intelligent option. Counterplays should exist, but it shouldn’t just be “deploy this unit to counter this other unit”.
Ah yes I remember when Hitler spawned a aircraft carrier and brung it between England and Ireland and proceeded to destroy the entire british army and invade england
@@ps_6328 yea, it's just as a maritime enthusiast, you learn the term as a commonplace, it'd be like calling a Peanutbutter & Jelly sandwich a PB&J, but yes i know everyone else knows the designation commonly used within game, and it does has it's merits with that. P.s, classifications also apply to other ships, listed below Battleship: BB Destroyer: DD or DDG Frigate: FFG or FF Submarine: SSK, SSN, or SSBN
Nah because thr thing woth the electronics nerf os it doesnt really matter to america china rusdia rtc but it makes plsying minor coubtties so much more difficult becayse you fighting china whole only making 2 million quthout sny army
How dare you forget about space destroyer and space cruiser, the most OP unit in history!! well you did say everything about the ac that I was gonna comment about, but one last thing. I don't think the anti-aircraft reducing damage was a direct nerf to ac, rather an indirect nerf to ac. Basically instead of changing the stats of the unit, you just simply add a counter. Whatever hyperant is doing rn for balancing is just delaying the incoming doom of the ac by making it so you need more money for it by buying shipyards. Honestly, tho the best thing was the attackers being able to do more damage to ships to indirectly nerf ac, but yeah i have no other ways to nerf ac, I think adding a military operation to increase damage against ships is too specific. some more examples of indirect nerfs: Nukes and forts reduce impact damage and bombers kills nukes infantry anti-tank tech Corruption mechanic update vs political leaders.
Best nerf would be that forts reduce the damage of naval units like Anti Air. It's just annoying having to move hundreds of Anti Air to counter 1 Aircraft carrier
@@ps_6328 yes but it stops you from just parking the aircraft carrier right up at peoples land. Meaning it isn’t as effective anymore + that artillery will destroy infantry that is escorted by the navy and other ships
Video gets good at 10:00
frfr really
thx
I'm watching the video as I, playing as USA, is sending a whole AC fleet to europe while the European players are malding
@@orangecitrus8056 WERE YOU IN MY SERVER?
I WAS AUSTRIA AND U DESTROYED EUROPE AND SCORCHED IT
Ron gets good when hyperant finally updates the frickin game
I somehow got 1000% defense on my infantry late game and survived AC-one of the first times i survived the traumatic boat
Guys, unrelated note but i just formed the Monoglian Empire a couple hours ago.
Yooo good job champ keep it up
@@Yomest-ip3tq thanks, I honestly don't know what to form next, I've already done the roman empire, the British empire, the French empire, the Spanish empire, republic of china, the Macedonian Empire, the German empire, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman empire, Assyrian empire, and formed the European Union as Belarus. But I guess I'm probably gonna do the Portuguese empire next.
Reform the USSR as transnistria
@@xoclur2024 you can do that?
@@Idkwhatotputhere play as Ukraine and liberate Moldova, then release transnistria, destroy the Ukrainian economy cuz why not, then play as transnistria and do whatever
0:10 jumpscare warning⚠️
thank god you saved me
Thank you 🙏
bro just gained independence
Planes scare me way more AC is easy to counter if you have good navy and use tanks. Plane fighting is so scary because it makes me have to spend time macroing air which is super annoying.
especially bombers, god those suck.
Artillery and AA spam is much scarier i destroyed a carrier a few battleships and around 1400 attack bombers fully maxed except for the bomber only 1000% global damage.
I played as new zealand and i didn't even expand my territory. I had 12 fighters 30k infantry 2200 artillery 900 AA 4 Submarines. Static line defence with non aligned and maxed resistance and 30% AA attack with general. All support upgrades except mobility.
@@TheDarkCeratosaurus Yes if you forget to make air force or anti air and a bomber lands on your factories you are cooked
honestly, yes, the AC needs a nerf, but you know what's more annoying than an aircraft carrier? mass scorching, imagine you're playing a normal match as france, germany decides to attack you but you manage to wipe out his entire army and now you're marching straight towards the rhine, but germany decides to scorch all of his lands and leave.. annoying, isn't it? they should add something like a scorch limit, where you can only scorch 10-20 cities every 300 seconds or so, that would make the game a lot better and a lot less annoying.
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isnt that what russia did in 1812? keep it in for accuracy.
@@piglinplayz8391yes they did, but this is a videogame, not real life.
Scorching existed is not bad as it makes it harder for big nations to just annex smaller nations because of their larger armies. Main issue is that sometimes people just scorch their entire country and leave ruining their country but preventing an invasion so just ruining the game.
@@LudwigVanBeethoven9203 Better idea would be that you can only scorch land within a certain distance of an enemy city or unit.
a single soobmarine:
A single frigate:
A single destroyer:
I feel like the counter to ac with attackers can just be countered by good fighters with the ac. Nowadays having actual aircraft on your ac is actually important, whereas before the buff it was absolutely not necessary at all
That’s true but moving your aircraft carrier with aircraft on it makes weird interactions. You should be able to have aircraft and a carrier move together so you don’t lose fuel or anything weird like that
@@heybro8845 just set them the same movement speed
@@unfunnyvideos-xb8gr The problem is in my experience ACs have trouble with refueling, and while moving they don't maintain fuel.
im your most OP unit
My Goat
One man army
Absolute unit
“Him”
Death star
And just think the United States Navy operates TEN nuclear powered Carriers
i remember back in the day when i was somewhat a noob, and an italy player destroying me while i was france because he got an aircraft carrier like 5 minutes into the game
i remember the good ol days when the AC was a literal death star on the ocean..
There is another way to kill an AC. It was late game and I was Switzerland. The USA declared war on my without bordering me because I almost had nukes. He sent an AC towards me (plus a lot of infantry, tanks and artillery) and I destroyed his AC with 100 artillery very easily, which tech I had been upgrading for a while now. I also killed 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and some frigates along with the AC with the same arty. Yeah the arty is just OP
no lol if u did that it means ur either lying or u had full tech with full training with max military spending while the US had none.
artillery is trash the range is trash it's only good if u have tech.
@@zGh1I already said I had tech did you even read my comment? Also yes I did have max mil spending
a aircraft carrier should function as a aircraft carrier, a freaking plane dock not a military death star
that’s what aircraft carriers are irl tho, if it was realistic carriers would melt naval units too
The big issue with that is that nobody would use it. An idea I have is that it would cost 100 million but it buffs planes around it and the closer it is the stronger the buff is as well as functioning as an airport.
@@DavidNaval please just search up "aircraft carriers". then type back
Well, guess what? Carrier can give endurance to planes on it
@@ps_6328 thats all it should do....
The most silly strat is to play as kazakhstan and place a carrier in Caspian.
dont flash me with a grass picture, i almost died
i was playing cyprus a few days ago and usa attacked me for no reason, i only had libya which his ally egypt and him bordered. He tried to wp me but i rejected and he sent an ac with a shit ton of escorts next to it, i basically one shot his ac with arty, i thought he disbanded it because of how fast it turned to dust😭😭
My guy, this is a 10/10 video, like for really. Great job !
I remember before shipyards spawning an AC in the 1st year as malta in europe and annoying the hell out of regional powers 💀
hey small correction, AA does not actually reduce damage of the AC in game! i tested it a while back 1 AC attacking 1m troops and even with 100k AA with the AC in range of it along with the infantry the damage was the exact same per turn
I'm so pissed off rn I just got rolled as the Soviet Union in HOI4 your videos help me calm down
thank you!
Anti aircraft with range 5 undoes the carrier completely
I played as finland once and germany united all of europe except for me, he spawned a navy which includes an aircraft carrier, but i just got a bunch of anti aircraft and the carrier did pretty much nothing after 5 years (he eventually gave up after 6 million losses and left)
battleships personally became really fun to me with 1400% attack, I was able to wipe out an full instanbul garrison late game of 2 million with four battleships in two months with fort and arty
only lost 1 battle
aircraft carriers become artillery victims late game
no lol aircraft carrier has 2x more range than full tech artillery so cry
@@zGh1 who got on ur bad side broski
bro decided to upload again
If you stack enough navy bonuses and choose a destroyer doctrine, then no aircraft in the world could possibly defeat your navy if you just spam a crap ton of destroyers ngl.
AC damage from missile tech should be lowered and based more on airial tech tbh
Get an ac, get some destroyers, subs and a battleship. Leave fighters on the carrier, so no attackers will try to kill ur navy and do the same with attackers so they can kill anti-air. Thats it
whoa thats makes u pay ur whole budget just ac and fighters with 2frgteis is enugh(sorry for my bad english)
@SANS-os6px i was talking about how to make ac insanely overpowered, not about killing ur economy with it, also, this is mainly for mid-late game when 15m upkeep won't really do anything
My honest reaction camping with range 5 arty + AA to destroy said AC
other players trying to invade ai usa only to discover they had a aircraft carrier in the greatlakes
aircraft carrier when rartillary shows up💀
when we running my 1s
Hi I enjoy your videos more entertaining to me
It was late game and i was a fully developed south Africa union and had researched nukes fully ottoman empire made 2 aircraft carriers carrying both 50 bombers or so i hade 10 nukes and had a small land wich can be absolutely demolished by bombers so i nuked both aircraft carriers with the bombers and he white peaced
I rarely use and see aircraft carriers anymore. In most wars i can win by just spamming infantry and tanks, and i don't need any other units to kill their units. It's just not worth it to make shipyards in the early game and in late game, wars happen less often
The aircraft carrier used to be the flagship of your navy and now it is just support 😢
Attackers can attack acs except the part where the acs have fighters on them
I had 11 aircraft carriers and this dude had 50 ARTY and guess who won…
(Research is everything)
The artillery?
U shouldve moved ur carrier
@ps_6328 It is very hard to get it so precise. Arty Range 5 is only barley less than aircraft carriers, and he killed 11 in around 20s
@@AlverseEditz BINGO!
@@FuriousFire898 I made usa struggle to take me while I was Bahamas because I was using artillery
the master is back
Tbh I think naval warfare was gutted. Like it’s a fun idea to make naval aircraft matter, but they should’ve made aircraft carriers actually work as a carrier of aircraft before that so there can be some counter-counterplay.
Also the anti air buff should be reversed. It made defensive play way more annoying. Honestly the anti-air buff is kinda a symptom of the RON devs not really having a concept of good balance and always choosing the least intelligent option. Counterplays should exist, but it shouldn’t just be “deploy this unit to counter this other unit”.
Me watching the us player spawn an aircraft carrier in the great lakes:
never knew aa helped against aicraft carriors
was that person who was the first viewer?
to anyone who reads this, ATTACKER SPAM KILLS ALL NAVY EVERY TIME
AC does little damage to late game infantry on forted mountains
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AHHHH!!! 😣😣😢😤🤬🤬🤬🤬😡
Surely infantry
15mil upkeep is so OP
Thats why fascism and military service act exists
What about spamming bombers?
attackers can counter ac so easily
Ah yes I remember when Hitler spawned a aircraft carrier and brung it between England and Ireland and proceeded to destroy the entire british army and invade england
My worst nightmare is a japan player using an ac (thx god they don’t have oil)
cv is the correct designation of an aircraft carrier, im tired of seeing ac.
Ok, but i still like to say "ac" more bc imo it looks better and everyone knows what i mean
@@ps_6328 yea, it's just as a maritime enthusiast, you learn the term as a commonplace, it'd be like calling a Peanutbutter & Jelly sandwich a PB&J, but yes i know everyone else knows the designation commonly used within game, and it does has it's merits with that.
P.s, classifications also apply to other ships, listed below
Battleship: BB
Destroyer: DD or DDG
Frigate: FFG or FF
Submarine: SSK, SSN, or SSBN
if dad left get aircraft carrier lol
Id have to disagree, battleships if you use it right are way too op
It's accurate to real-life so 🤷♂️
Grass jumpscare
Alr i think u should play aoh 3 for the first time cuz its released
Can u pls do a India play through
Pls amandus, try Mini Empires rts
the aircraft carrier was the most bullshit thing ever lmfao
Its artillery rn wym? Anti-air can completely counter AC.
Also i think it needs a buff. But the only buff should be that AA doesnt counter it.
Dude lol just keep some attackers on the ac, they easily destroy anti-air.
@@ps_6328 no not really
@@Monke1312_ ok then test it out one attacker can kill around 20 anti air (no tech both)
@@ps_6328 ok kinda
@@ps_6328 yeah its pretty wild
OMG 大刀王五EP MENTIONED LOL
Just use artillery to counter it
76 views in 14 minutes, bro fell off
this is tragic, im late by 39 minutes!!!
Estoy hot
dude i literally quit
Nah because thr thing woth the electronics nerf os it doesnt really matter to america china rusdia rtc but it makes plsying minor coubtties so much more difficult becayse you fighting china whole only making 2 million quthout sny army
How dare you forget about space destroyer and space cruiser, the most OP unit in history!!
well you did say everything about the ac that I was gonna comment about, but one last thing. I don't think the anti-aircraft reducing damage was a direct nerf to ac, rather an indirect nerf to ac. Basically instead of changing the stats of the unit, you just simply add a counter. Whatever hyperant is doing rn for balancing is just delaying the incoming doom of the ac by making it so you need more money for it by buying shipyards. Honestly, tho the best thing was the attackers being able to do more damage to ships to indirectly nerf ac, but yeah i have no other ways to nerf ac, I think adding a military operation to increase damage against ships is too specific.
some more examples of indirect nerfs:
Nukes and forts reduce impact damage and bombers kills nukes
infantry anti-tank tech
Corruption mechanic update vs political leaders.
Best nerf would be that forts reduce the damage of naval units like Anti Air. It's just annoying having to move hundreds of Anti Air to counter 1 Aircraft carrier
@@Amandosno way bro wants to give forts one more buff, did i found Hyperant?
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Another amandus W
Aircraft carriers so bad now because of artillery
No lol
@@ps_6328yeah they are if someone has good arty range they demolish aircraft carriers
@@Scouser_editz786 not even support range 5 has more range than a carrier LOLLLLLLLL kid didnt ever made a single aircraft carrier 💀💀💀
@@ps_6328 yes but it stops you from just parking the aircraft carrier right up at peoples land. Meaning it isn’t as effective anymore + that artillery will destroy infantry that is escorted by the navy and other ships
@@eyezlordd bro thinks aircraft carrier can't damage artillery 💀💀💀
After ac/cv (whatever u call it) destroyed the arty, it will deal no damage kiddo
Thats why im always Russian player
nah they are really weak, if you have good artillery with range and firepower, they easily destroy aircraft carriers and have the same range
thats just a byproduct of the very very defense favored meta we are in rn
@@EvilRecaps exactly my point, just use them and win
57 views in 12 minutes bro fell off
That’s a lot of people
aircraft carrier is trash and barely used nowadays
Na I love the ac
lol
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