FINALLY! NEW PLAYER BUILDER GRIND | DEMIGOD BUILDS COMING BACK? NBA 2K25 NEWS UPDATE
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#nba2k25 #update
This sucks lol. I know 2K they'd be like to improve your 3 point shot by 1 point you need to make 1 million 3s in the park, 1 million 3s in my career and 1 million 3s in the rec ...
Progress resets after 3 weeks.
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lol
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😂😂😂😂 all true details 😅😅
Badge Degradation is WACK! It feeds into the "grind" instead of actually PLAYING the game! I've never been a fan of "quests" because they detract from playing. Period.
I really need LIVE to get their sh*t together.
Word NBA live need a comeback
Great. 2K is going to create an incentive for people to sell in a game to meet their “grind goals”. That sounds AWFUL.
The worse it gets the happier i seem to be
EA laughing at 2k rn with College Football out pretty sure their player base has drop significantly
@@jaime54cb3maybe for North american players only. not all people in the world plays american football.
Naw, this ain't it they need to make it a my career thing, not a park or Rec center thing
This is a bad idea
Can you imagine the first few months of 2K dudes spamming dribble moves for 23 seconds trying to get their dribble up. This system seems like straight trash
Mfs be hella selfish
random rec is gonna be unplayable, gonna have 7 foot centers trying to dribble the ball up to get their ball handle so they can say "DEMI GOD WEMBY BUILD" on their shitty youtube gonna be fkin unplayable
Facts after 2 dribbles if I got nothing im giving up the roc the game runs better when it’s motion and cutting vs just standing there watch a guy dribble the clock away
It would be fixed if we get certain amount per game
That's because it is trash bro. It sucks
Man I'm such a old head I remember on 2k10 and 2k11 it took 2 and a half full seasons, playoffs included, to be an actual 99 and get your shoe deal.
big facts
So they’re going to cater to content creators that live on the game!! GREAT!!!
Exactly and it be the same content creators gassing up the game when it drops, they are the main reason the 2k community is what it is, instead of telling their community not to buy the game until Christmas so that 2k is forced to make changes, all these content creators care about is money including all city, don't let him fool you, he don't care about you...content creators are the reason 2k is where it is at the moment, so its up to us, when 2k25 releases don't watch any of their streams or videos and make the content creators feel the pain of not getting paid for any of their uploads
^^^he’s right ya know. 🤷🏾♂️
@@1andOnlyKB facts💯
@@1andOnlyKByou’re spitting facts
That's why they got rid of the 2k league in my opinion. So they can figure out how to make content creators more of the league. They see how important Bear Da Beast is, they see how much they are missing out from a Joe Knows. 2k shape it how you want the audience is not dumb! KDot voice🫡
Now everyone in the rec will be on a one man mission. People will take every shot because they grinding they shooting
Facts. Shit dumb
That mean “HOW TO EASILY MAKE A WEMBY BUILD” lol
2k15 all over again
I can already see all the clickbait titles in all capitals lol.
It should be easy to make.
My hesitation with these kinds of objective oriented grinds is that 2k doesn't know how to make them cater to the whole community/fun. An example are the takeovers and rep system - you have to play specific game modes and do specific things in those modes to unlock them. As a rec/proAm 5v5 player, I don't want to be forced to play park or MyCareer games just to unlock something.
That goes for any game mode.. You should get rewarded for playing no matter the mode within the game..I don't like the city/rec/pro-am, but the game forces you to play that for season rewards...it's garbage, 2k does not value your time just your wallet.
Man give us a builder that we can make what we want .. $150 on a build just to play the game grinding all day .. if we are having fun we will play the game! Simple .. tired of grinding for badges .. workouts .. i just want to hit the rec or park day 1 with the gang 💯
Preach
Yea 2k25 cooked😭😭 these ideas get worse and worse every year
Literally worst and worst
Then stop playin it and wait on GTA 🤷🏾♂️
College football out and 2k still hasn’t listened to its fan base 💀 rip to the homies who have to play 2k as their job 🥲 gonna be brutal with the views
@@dhakidd3187 explain how GTA is better?
The fuxk you mean GTA is better because there's 100+ things to do online with friends other than rage over cheese opponents and zens@@nightmarehog
2K: We don’t condone cheating
Also 2K: Let’s make a build system that incentivizes cheating
If everybody is a demi then it 100% comes down to skill at that point if shooting is easy... Who needs a titan? ...if defense works who needs a lock? 2k20 was the best 2k i ever played ... It had its bugs but slashers could shoot and play shots could defend... Just needed to take the time to actually try
@@shiftycaponeixi1 you honestly think that 2k is gonna allow everyone to grind to that? It’ll be like the top 10 was this year
@@shiftycaponeixi116 is the best 2k ever 2k20 was ok but nothing near 2k16 at all paint defense was terrible with intimidator in 2k20 and choosing your badges is not a good idea
@@shiftycaponeixi1facts every player try to make the TH-camrs build but wonder why they can’t play the same way as them. #skills
@@shiftycaponeixi1that’s the cycle though that no one seems to get. We already had games where EVERYONE was a Demi..community complained and wanted role builds..Now we have role builds and everyone now wants Demi’s..guess what’s going to happen next?
They need to take squad rec out sucks when u play wit 3 and the other 2 r just selling and staying in the paint and playing buddy ball
Yup. Bring back old rec please. Was fine that way
@@ps1746or just add a third door that’s for single and squads combined.
…..or just get 2 more friends🤷🏾♂️. Be social and find like minded talent. I have a squad, but I also like to go in solo rec to sharpen skills and talent scout.
Stop going in with 3
Oh so u wanna take ur team of 3 to go play against randoms 💁🏾♀️
2k community thinks a Steph curry build is a demigod, don’t be surprised if we end up paying $150 for a fake 99vr that’s a 75 y’all don’t know what your asking for
Of course they know what they're asking for,they want taxed out weaker builds.
The gatekeepers always yelling out "skill gap skill gap skill gap" but these are the same people who buy VC to boost their attributes but also want the builder to be made where they have the advantage.
@@StayInYourPlacefacts, the real skill gap is that dudes can’t hit with a 85 or higher 3 ball
I think you should have to suck at least 1 thing, otherwise everyone is just going to be the same and there's no strategy, no adjustments, nothing matters, it's just iso'ing for animations.
And lol. Why y'all complain so much when the field would be fair. Plus most of y'all suck anyway that's why y'all mad about do it all builds cuz you can make the build but not know how to use it
@@desmonddavis3422 Yeah it wouldn't be fair to you if you had to know how to ball and not just work animations, eh?
Pause on you should have to suck at least 1 thing 🧐
@@joeyhoser We had this in 2k21. Everyone had a PF build that could do everything.
Ended up skipping that year, it was boring
Just because when have the build doesn't mean we play the same.
I still think 2k24 builder is great but I always felt 2k23 & 24 kinda needed to combine some stuff & it would be great. Definitely need to be able to make more all around players at most heights so that we (as players) have no excuse but to show skill/IQ as deciding factors in games. Hopefully 2k brings out something most people will tolerate.
with how expensive builds are they better let us make star player builds
That’s what I’ve been saying. 2k23 was fine. The build cost $100 I better be able to do everything
@@danielnelson6903 yea and some people want role player builds back. No way in hell am I spending $100+ on a build to be kyle korver
@@danielnelson6903 2k23 was trash just like this year limits on build are ok and they make sense that’s where the skill gap is, maximizing your strengths and weaknesses
@@slumcitykidd9576 No 2k23 was good the first month it was out. The superstar builds made the game fun, the EXPLOITS are what ruin the game every year. People want to cheat and spam instead of playing real basketball, that’s the real issue no one wants to talk about. Put any of the cheesers on a REAL basketball court and my point will have been made. Literally the exact same thing happened to 24. First two weeks the game was balanced and felt smooth, cheesers started to complain and they make up 90% of the “community” now, so of course 2k listened to them and now we have the same game as 22 and 23(left right left right spam into a fade away three ball) It happens every year, notice the pattern.
@slumcitykidd9576 that's str8 cap, stop crying about "Skill gaps" when yall buy VC to boost your attributes early.
Yall be buying attributes yelling "SKILL GAP" when you used no skill at all to get the attributes.
You fools always trying put something in your favor.
grand badges/ mentality badges, that grind was so real and rewarding this can be achieved 2k done it before
Imagine 2k going back to pie charts but with rise & elite methods
Each height should have a harder time getting things up.
6’4 and under - dunking and rebounding.
6’5 - 6’9 should be balanced and whatever you put up makes the other harder. (Better shooter = harder to dunk)
6’10+ - ball handle and shooting.
Just a quick thought
No the grind doesn't need to be that serious, nothing wrong with everyone's players having the same capability, time for skill to shine
Least amount of hype I’ve had personally for a 2k game. Not pre ordering for the first time in years. Seems like 25 will just be damn near the same thing as 24
Bro, don’t forget in 2K21 players were playing interior defense with no interior defense
@@mannywanny392 the ai in mycareer does that so no surprise. Bumass AI is broken to.
this may be a hot take, but i feel 2k was most fun when every person on the team was role players and not demi gods. You got THE LOCKDOWN the PLAYMAKER and the GLASS CLEANER
or instead of lock a SHARP or instead of glass cleaner a STRETCH or instead of playmaker, a SHOT CREATOR
And when everyone has limiting builds, the people that are truly better at the game shine, its not oh i made a build that is OBJECTIVELY more FUN and SUITED TO A PLAYSTYLE and then the other team has the Joe Knows build with 94 dunk 92 3 pointer 92 ball handle with Defensive Menaces all around them with Contact dunks and high 3 pointers
Facts
Yup it had way more skill if you were nice at 2k back then it would show but now people need to be able to do everything at a high level to be good af the game
Forget the dialogue. Do you see this man just getting whatever he wants in the rec center😅😅😅😅
They'll balance it out by having your attributes decrease when you dont use it often like badge regression and the only way to make it permanent is to have like a gold place setter or something that you can only unlock in the season pass
That's ridiculous, I shouldn't have to pay money or be forces to play park games which is locked behind a pay wall.
Badges or attributes shouldn't be locked behind a pay wall.
@StayInYourPlace you have to do it right now if you wanna unlock stuff in the season pass...I stopped playing months ago for plenty other reasons...unless they make "rewards" more accessible and the xp grind reasonable it wouldn't be worth it for me
Pay to make a build in 2k25 💀
I don't think they should allow every build to go 99 in every attribute, because of balance, but to allow a pure defender to be able to grind their shooting, and lower teir abilities to a respectable level would be good.
Correct ✅💯
No I disagree, I don’t want 6 or 10 lebron james on the court. I want diversity so that everyone knows their role there should not be a way to grind a build to that level.
8:13 It’ll make the rec random experience horrid bc we already have guys making PG builds not passing the ball.
I agree no one knows how to play their role or team basketball so they make a do-it-all build like everyone else that’s just mid
So yall basically like the game being handicapped?
You fools are always crying about realism in games yet, isn't teak that if you put alot of HARD WORK & PRACTICE AT ANYTHING YOU GOOD AT IT?
yall are the ones gatekeeping & holding the game back. I shouldn't be hindered and handicapped because YOU SUCK AT THE GAME.
Pro am or pro rec needs to have fatigued increased and more prominent in that style game so that your movements or excessive usage of turbo will highly effect ur player in the last two quarters meaning you have to be more aware of over dribbling or creating low strength bigs getting beaten up in the paint ur physical should be on another level in a (pro am/pro rec) mode for the players looking for more realistic competition. If you've turbo the whole game ur stamina should go from 99 to 40 meaning all badges connected to ur stamina would drop from hof to bronze also means ur speed drops ur accelerate drops etc and includes badges dropping also meaning the use of timeout would be more beneficial to the game.
We need Demi gods back!
This is not a new concept they did this before in 2k16 I think where you constantly play like that to keep your stats up so you had the ability to get your man to a true 99 overall
I just hope 2K focuses on the player’s JERSEY DETAIL 🔥😮💨
I like this thematically speaking. Grinding should be incentivesed and the grind should show in your players progression
I think it should be like stat based, so like make a certain number of 3 pointers and your 3pt rating goes up(or if 2k wants more money, the amount you can max your 3pt at goes up)
Yeah sounds. Like ppl selling and stat padding terrible idea tf lol
Idk, how I feel about this, I like the idea about having your player get better, it’ll help on ppl’s first build cause everyone almost always messes it up because they missed the threshold to get the dunk animation or badge they didn’t know about
if badge regression is in NBA 2k25...I'll pass...don't nobody got time for that!!! 😂
They should put win objectives to unlock animations like 100 wins in rec , points scored , assists , rebounds & which ever one you complete should towards a category for playmaking , shooting or defense
I like the idea of having more utility in the build/player/builder your right the question is how having a flat 25 stat at 99 overall never sits right with me
2k just needs to take two years off and add new mechanics. The MP builder and etc. is already cool. Just make the game better
Dunking shooting will be the meta..
Is that not how people play basketball
It's been the metra since 21 where u been at brah
And complain about the defense being over-powered like they always do killing the defensive builds, watering down defense in game entirely.
@@Inspectah___98
Funny how you don’t mention DEFENSE which by far is more important in winning a game.
@@DreDaGodSon I’m just saying dunking and shooting is part of basketball it can’t really be a meta unless it’s one or the other like usually the dunking is op or shooting is too easy
i’m telling yall now: the quickest way to get ppl off this game is for a casual to consistently play against a team of lebrons. keep the game as balanced as possible
Bro please, then make it specifically for casuals.
@@ttv_lilrome6008”specifically for casuals”= peak 2k 🤷🏾♂️
Imagine going into solo rec, hooping with a guy who’s terrible at shooting, attempting to complete a shooting achievement, team ice him out and he sells the game…. 🤦🏾♂️ man I hope 2k has a answer for that because I like playing solo rec sometimes. 24 is bad enough with these randoms, 25 might end up being a disaster!!!
I like the idea. It's a good replacement for 20+ badges or hof badges for legend. 2K used the 2k league as one of its reasons for having balance in the game. With the league gone, they can be more free with the type of balance in the game.
If we paying 150$ on builds It better for Demi gods we not paying all that money on builds to role players 🤷🏾♂️
Hell, yeah let’s bring it back to the 2K 23 that was the best 2K. You could build whatever you want and go out there and have fun people take 2K way too serious.
Best game was 23
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I’d be happy if they went back to the 2k16 badge system that was my favorite by far
Yes I agree
These speculation videos are pointless... wait until real news drops bro
Speculation video are easy view and income for the creators
Speculation videos are usually right these days
I hope they do that but bring back 2k23 badge system it forced people to choose what badges they wanted to utilize vs now people with all 6'6 builds spamming 91 steal
Until they fix the gameplay completely this won't matter
So people who actually work and just jump on the game to have fun will never be good on the gameeee.stupidd stupid idea smhhh
Hate that new badges system asf
I really wish they just seperate Mycareer and Park ... Being able to do everything should be in Mycareer but have piecharts in Partk to create more diversity because now more than ever attributes barely matters . 2K24 had guards contesting bigs with high finishing while under the rim . We have people with mid 3s make a lot of shot because of badges from their high midrange
Idk it'd be ok to implement some sort of grind system that'll let your player reach his full potential in every attribute category after you reach that initial 99. I dont have any confidence in them implementing anything that works tho. Plus, limiting the builder as much as they can is how they're able to get people to spend money on more builds anyway. So it's all a pipe dream
I feel like they would never do this because then that would discourage people from making new builds and spending more VC.
Then I’ll be coming back 😤🫡
Lmao that didn't take much
2k be wanting all your time and money
I feel like for the amount of money we’re paying , game and Vc prices etc . we should be able to make those type of builds if we want . Hell it’s already pay to play anyways .
It’s fine making a build that can do it all. Just make defense the same and make the it an actual skill gap where u have to actually break down ur defender like real ball.
Also, the grind in college football 25 is way more fun than 2k24. You can start off with a certain overall, and getting your attribute points isn't that hard either, and when you buy abilities, they didn't cost that much 2k needs to either go back to skills points or go to the 2k16 route with badges and player builder just update it its really not that complicated 2k16 had the best player build system in my opinion
Bro demigods are realistic. Every single professional ball player can shoot dribble and dunk. Obviously some are much better than others but they can all do the basic skills. I love the idea of making play and success build your attributes. The only problems I'm having is I play with randoms so much it's hard to keep a positive win percentage
If that’s the case they might as well use the same builder as 2k24. When you got to your physicals and see your badges and attributes you should be able to grind and max your player as high as your badges, attributes and animations can be. it can’t go above your cap. That’s fair for every position can be balance and a demigod. Also get rid of badge regression and make badge stacking better during gameplay
This sounds good but, i feel like the casuals are gonna complain about the people who actually grind. And if 2k does something like this they’re gonna make it easy for everyone to be the same as per usual. But overall that concept sounds amazing for the real grinders, I’m here for it.
I don't think it should be EVERY attribute being nearly maxed out...I would say 1/5 of the total attributes: close, mid, 3 shooting, driving dunk, standing dunk, driving layups, steals, blocks, perimeter defense, interior defense, blocks, offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, passing, dribbling. So roughly 15 attributes...chose 3 that can be nearly maxed out in addition to how your build was designed. Example: I make a 3 and D guy so my 3-ball, perimeter defense and steals would already be capable of being nearly maxed. Then I can choose which 3 from the remaining attributes say mid, driving dunk, blocks. It rounds out the player without being able to do everything well and it makes players consider how to build based on those they run with the most.
I think u should be able to do everything on day 1. And there better not be any piecharts. The demigod builder with sim gameplay would be the best to me.
That game aint gone be worth playing until season 2 probably. Everyone gone be hyped about demigods and they gone patch it all like they do every year. Burnt money everywhere.
I’ve been saying this for a while. Make it more realistic. You have your specialties but if you want to add skills than you practice those skills so you can learn them. 👏🏻
I’m all for making my build better. I just hate the badge regression though. Not every game will require you to use every badge that you have
Man let us import our vc & players over to the next game im tired of starting at 60ovr
Sadly you still don’t understand 2k is a BUSINESS that creates game.
Imagine telling Micheal Jordan to lower his sneaker prices because he is a billionaire already.
100% positive he will look at you crazy
I hate the badge degradation because if you a person and you don’t have a squad and randoms not passing then u won’t be able to keep certain badges up and change twos from make it take it
Yay another 2k with builds that have 0 weakness……. Thats exactly what 2k needs rn
I mean it would make sense to actually be able to grind to a actual 99 player. We haven't had a true 99 ovr my player
Again it's a good idea but u gotta understand ur audience 2k players DONT CARE ABOUT BASKETBALL if this was a different community it'll probably work
I don't mind working to grind new stats... but LOSING stats if unused I WON'T buy the game.. I'm waiting a month to see what's going on first..Not gonna pay for a game that makes me keep working for shit i've earned.
Real talk
This off topic but 1:30 23-116 is crazy work😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I need that lebron type build 😂 tired of running guard with vegetables as teammates 🤣
I need them to bring the +5 custom shoes back and make people grind my career more
Idk man, when I was playing a lot I was absolutely dominating people within the current builder restrictions… you really want the better players have better builds too?
Omm I said somethin almost EXACTLY like this on 2k Tutes channel yesterday. Basically it’s like COD, our build is the gun and grinding for better attributes is like adding attachments. We can make our builds a lil more unique but it worries me that small builds will be phased out again
If anything 2k might let you get a demi god build with cap on it like a lebron template but the most 3 an free throw you get is like 90 free throw an maybe 84 3pt maybe 85 3pt
Well if that’s the case they better make the grind reachable for the casuals as well. Than cool
Plz bring back numbered bases
I'm not sure if anyone remembers that 2K used to have a workout with a legend?? 🤔
This can be huge, if they execute it
Just make a legit team based oriented basketball game. Where you need to work together to achieve common goals!
So people going to mad about everyone making 6’7-6’9 myplayer builds again. People are going to mad how long it takes to get your build to where u want.
Even if this system works, that will reduce the amount of builds one makes, since you're in a marathon grind. That reduces vc purchases, so how does that benefit 2ks profits
They’re always revisiting something because they don’t have new ideas. Give them a bottle and they’ll find a way to recycle it and make money off of it.
Man i want a 5'8 player with a 99 interior defence homie stop letting these big guys bully us at the paint 😂
2k about to kill their game. Aint nobody trying to grind like that
Some ppl in his chat said he was giving out bad advice for 2k25 which is some is bad advice. That’s something for the ppl who can play everyday all day and it’s gone be “top 10” in the world
my only problem with the concept is that if you make a build that became a 99 ovr and it a +5 to any attribute after was that build able to reach that attribute before the concept
I feel like I shouldn’t be limited in what I make. But if we are going to limit things how about we go to camps for certain players to unlock attributes. So say shaq camp we get standing dunk post hook and rebounding and we do the games/drills and we get +5 on that as the max for a permanent attribute upgrade
I’ve been praying 2K got there shit together since 2019. I feel this is a great concept in life the only things that can stop you from improving is injuries, or death.
In the world of 2K there should be a point where we can earn extra attributes points to improve on after 99. If we are going back to pie charts or revamping the 2K24 build system to give us free range to make the players that fit our play styles but also give option to develop in those areas that lack.
For example if I made a player in 24 with defense, passing , and shooting. My finishing will take a hit and areas in between depending on how I laid out my attributes. Imagine being able to earn after 99 20-30 more attributes points to use after 99 to better improve to that goat status type of player it won’t be a “Demigod” but it would allow you to separate yourself from the casual players.
Revamping the badge system to support gameplay user skill should dictate badge success in my opinion. Resulting back to motion capture so that way we can have real animations to support players skill and attributes. For example great one ball defenders should do the animations for defensive builds and everything in between.
I feel like that will add to the grind but will make it worth it. It may slow down the build purchasing process depending on how much of a grind it is but it will allow more dedicated players and competitive players more of an edge and a real life feel.
I don’t see this happening. 2K makes money through new builds. If we can perfect our build over time, we won’t need new ones, or at least not nearly as many new ones. There’s no upside for them, and u know they don’t do anything just for us.
I would be for it. There should be hard caps on certain things like physicals depending on height and weight, but it shouldn't be as low as they are right now. For example, Giannis has like an 84 speed in the game, but at 6'11" I think the highest speed you can get is like a 77.
I'm totally ok with there being a grind. VC for attributes isn't the only thing people spend money for. People really be buying these in-game animations, clothing and vehicles. Plus, if the biggest money maker is MyTeam, then MyCareer shouldn't be taxed the same.
But what they could do to achieve this is to make it to where we can make our builds how we can now, but make stretching the build's stats further, again, to a hard cap, is making the next stats above the originally made to be a higher VC cost. Or maybe, once you achieve certain efficiency thresholds, then you unlock that particular attribute up to a certain point.
So if you want your block rating to go up, contest a certain amount of shots which result in a miss, and if you don't play good defense then it results in a loss. Dribbling could be performing a certain amount of dribble moves with success, but if you dribble into a defender, even if you don't lose the ball should go against you. That would make it so that these "dribble gods" out here cheesing the game, using the crab mechanic and all this other nonsense that happens would actually work AGAINST what would gain you further attribute points. For steals, make the ratings matter, so if you have mid to high 80 steal, you actually are accurate with where the ball is if you choose correctly with the right stick. Choosing the right direction would be neutral, getting a pluck whether it results in a steal or not would gain you progress toward another attribute, but choosing the wrong direction or trying to steal when the ball is nowhere near you would negatively effect you and so on with other attributes.
I'd be all for it, but only if they did it right. And we all know, they usually don't get it right the first time around.
i love this idea im totally down for it i hope it is like this. The only way i can think of it working is if the grind is only attached to my career. Theres already massive problems with people that dribble for 24 seconds and not passing the ball just to take shots
The problem there is going to be the animations the smartest way to go about it is give everyone all of the animations however, the speed and effectiveness of the animations be affected by something like the system that they’re talking about center can have Steph Curry‘s jumpshot, however, because of his low three ball The shot speed is nowhere near what it is for someone with a 99 three now if you feel like grinding out to get the animation to be effective by all means go right ahead I wouldn’t be mad at that, but if they put the animations is locked, there’s going to be a glitch where people can unlock it early on and it will throw the whole system off trying to fix it
The grind would need to be slower and through the grind meeting thresholds to develop the actual skills of your player.. but the 2k12 kinda concept of grinding and being able to build your builds and animation regardless of animation iis good but you just gotta grind more or less depending on position. Make that a updates concept of 2k12 amd might just have a winner again
i was saying give us three city's three mentors plus all the legends each season to go train with to gain moves