I've had that Cream. It was fantastic. I'm not sure if this video is successful in comparing the speaker elements, but I just couldn't stop watching. That JTM 45 sounds just amazing. And your playing is fantastic.
I have just put Celestion Ruby in my Tone King Imperial MK II and it already sounds very vintage: warm and articulate, rounded highs and lows..Cant wait to break it in!
The Cream is more expressive and warm. It’s a bit more clear over my iPad speaker. I wa t to love a Ruby for a 2x12 combined with something ceramic. Just not sure Rub6 or Cresm…but NOT gold, ironically. Too….gritty? I want sweet compressed alnico to offset the edges of anything ceramic. Have an open back tweed cab with an original Naylor Alltone 1250 and a 1960 p12n. It’s an awesome combo.
@@blakemansfield2356 recently, i buy one for my blackface amp project...i will compare with alessandro GA SC64...BTW, have you put the ruby in your Deluxe reverb?..i think it will be awesome...cheers from indonesia
Both alnico speakers sound great with your setup and your playing style! I am not as enthusiastic about the V30. The Ruby and Cream are very similar, but the Cream's low-mids are bit bolder. and the Ruby is a bit more articulate. I'd love to hear them both in a mix or band, with other instruments. I suspect the Ruby would cut through better in that context. Personally, I'd be cautious about using the Ruby as a single speaker with an amp like the JTM 45, since I tend to push my amps toward the upper end of their power rating. The JTM could be flirting with exceeding the Ruby's power rating, depending on how you dial in the amp. The Ruby and Cream have identical sensitivity, so they'd probably sound fantastic together in a 2X12 setup. What microphone were you using on this?
Slide Guitarist Thanks and yea I agree with you. The Ruby is a little sketchy power wise with the JTM45. Then again, those old combos came with 2 blues. I find the Ruby to be a little more aggressive and overall satisfying, especially with gain. But yea- they’re close. Just using iPhone here
Hyunil Kim Pretty sure it was the delay setting on the source audio ventris along with some reverb since you can run two engines at once on that. Not 100% sure of which reverb mode it was.
I have Marshall SC20 head and SC112 open cab coming soon. I'm considering replacing the stock speaker with a celestion alnico either a gold,cream, or ruby. I won't be able to test them. Any suggestions? Great sound and playing.
I definitely wouldn't spend a dime on any speaker until you've played and broken in the stock one. Can't tell you how many times I've bought "upgrades" for things I haven't received yet and I just ended up liking what came stock. The ruby is a darker speaker, so you may like that with the SC which is a bright amp, but it's not very modern sounding. I never loved the cream, but plenty of people do. No experience with golds. I suppose it depends on what tones you dig the most (vintage vs modern). My favorite single speaker is a UK made V30. While the alnicos are very cool, they lack a certain presence and immediacy that ceramics have.
Ya, I was really responding to the one comment. No probs with personal preferences. I do a lot of recording and was looking at different speakers, so just want to hear them dry, so I can hear the differences in their voicing: every reverb does different things to the original sound but it’s definitely not the original sounds.. Very nice playing and vibe!:)
@@blakemansfield2356 I know that! The point of your video is to showcase the difference between two speakers, at least that is what the title suggest. And hearing those differences is made more difficult when you drench your sound in delay/verb, even if is coming from THE SPEAKER. It's sound engineering 101.
@@f.d.t.f.d.t.7310 Most people play with reverb and delay. I never play my alnico cream or any speaker by itself. It sounds anemic once you've heard them with reverb.
The point of this is hearing the speaker and its frequency profile, reverb just obscures and alters that, so no, I disagree and just want to hear the speaker dry.
@@blakemansfield2356 I understand and that was certainly easy. I record all the time and to me to get hear the differences in just the speakers, no reverb would be better and one mike like a 57 at the same place on each speaker would be best. But thanks for making the video as it does give you some sense of the differences
@@matthewblue7839 For most of us that use reverb it gives the best sense of the differences. Without some verb they sound a little anemic. Don't you think? To each his own.
In this case, Ruby forever!!! What a vintage full and harmonically complex tone!
Those reverb tones on cream are soooo illusive! Beautiful!
I've had that Cream. It was fantastic. I'm not sure if this video is successful in comparing the speaker elements, but I just couldn't stop watching. That JTM 45 sounds just amazing. And your playing is fantastic.
Josey Stranded Appreciate the kind words
The cream does something magic to the reverb and echo repeats.
I have just put Celestion Ruby in my Tone King Imperial MK II and it already sounds very vintage: warm and articulate, rounded highs and lows..Cant wait to break it in!
Joe Rozmanassa It’s a great sounding speaker for sure. I’m trying to pound it as much as I can too. Will only get better
Awesome playing and tone equally incredible. Thanks for the comparison...
Cool demo thx!!
For reference:
Blue = 15w
Ruby = 35w
Gold = 50w
Cream = 90w
The cream sounds awesome
The Ruby is underrated
Agreed. Still use them along with V30s, Blues, and GB’s. They’re great.
Ruby!!!
Awesome tone, and playing! This JTM45 sounds amazing with both Ruby and Cream, but I don't like with vintage30. What pedals are used for this video?
Thanks dude. Was using a Green Rhino for low/mid gain and then hitting that with a light speed for the “higher gain” stuff.
Cream or ruby for Marshall ??
The Cream is more expressive and warm. It’s a bit more clear over my iPad speaker. I wa t to love a Ruby for a 2x12 combined with something ceramic. Just not sure Rub6 or Cresm…but NOT gold, ironically. Too….gritty? I want sweet compressed alnico to offset the edges of anything ceramic. Have an open back tweed cab with an original Naylor Alltone 1250 and a 1960 p12n. It’s an awesome combo.
What JTM45 is this? Sounds incredible with the ruby.
brian ward Metro Amp built in house with mustards installed later. I agree- they are a fantastic match
Ruby sounds killer! What is the lick/song at 13:20? Thanks!
Fabio Gramani Chili Peppers- Soul to Squeeze
I like them all !!!
Ha same. I'd be fine with any of them
Fire!!!!!
Ruby win....
Its a really nice speaker. Suits my ears a little better than the cream personally.
@@blakemansfield2356 recently, i buy one for my blackface amp project...i will compare with alessandro GA SC64...BTW, have you put the ruby in your Deluxe reverb?..i think it will be awesome...cheers from indonesia
Both alnico speakers sound great with your setup and your playing style! I am not as enthusiastic about the V30. The Ruby and Cream are very similar, but the Cream's low-mids are bit bolder. and the Ruby is a bit more articulate. I'd love to hear them both in a mix or band, with other instruments. I suspect the Ruby would cut through better in that context. Personally, I'd be cautious about using the Ruby as a single speaker with an amp like the JTM 45, since I tend to push my amps toward the upper end of their power rating. The JTM could be flirting with exceeding the Ruby's power rating, depending on how you dial in the amp. The Ruby and Cream have identical sensitivity, so they'd probably sound fantastic together in a 2X12 setup. What microphone were you using on this?
Slide Guitarist Thanks and yea I agree with you. The Ruby is a little sketchy power wise with the JTM45. Then again, those old combos came with 2 blues. I find the Ruby to be a little more aggressive and overall satisfying, especially with gain. But yea- they’re close. Just using iPhone here
I liked the V30 best! Surprised me,for sure.
Which delay unit are you using? It sounds great.
Hyunil Kim Pretty sure it was the delay setting on the source audio ventris along with some reverb since you can run two engines at once on that. Not 100% sure of which reverb mode it was.
@@blakemansfield2356 thanks for sharing :)
Sounds like a winner
Literally just pulled it out of the box, but I think so too
cream is met to live on crunch planet...i want 4 for my orange cab
I have Marshall SC20 head and SC112 open cab coming soon. I'm considering replacing the stock speaker with a celestion alnico either a gold,cream, or ruby. I won't be able to test them. Any suggestions? Great sound and playing.
I definitely wouldn't spend a dime on any speaker until you've played and broken in the stock one. Can't tell you how many times I've bought "upgrades" for things I haven't received yet and I just ended up liking what came stock. The ruby is a darker speaker, so you may like that with the SC which is a bright amp, but it's not very modern sounding. I never loved the cream, but plenty of people do. No experience with golds. I suppose it depends on what tones you dig the most (vintage vs modern). My favorite single speaker is a UK made V30. While the alnicos are very cool, they lack a certain presence and immediacy that ceramics have.
@@blakemansfield2356 Thanks i will postpone the upgrade till later, i have never owned a alnico speaker, your comments are helpful.
Songs are in Slow mo
H CC Ha. You’re right. Guess I was in a chill mood
Great video! Perfect amount of delay.
Ya, I was really responding to the one comment. No probs with personal preferences. I do a lot of recording and was looking at different speakers, so just want to hear them dry, so I can hear the differences in their voicing: every reverb does different things to the original sound but it’s definitely not the original sounds.. Very nice playing and vibe!:)
Why, why, why soooooooo much delay/verb? we want to hear THE SPEAKER!
Literally every sound, delay signal or not, is coming from THE SPEAKER
@@blakemansfield2356 I know that! The point of your video is to showcase the difference between two speakers, at least that is what the title suggest. And hearing those differences is made more difficult when you drench your sound in delay/verb, even if is coming from THE SPEAKER. It's sound engineering 101.
@@f.d.t.f.d.t.7310 Most people play with reverb and delay. I never play my alnico cream or any speaker by itself. It sounds anemic once you've heard them with reverb.
@@f.d.t.f.d.t.7310 no its just you being a knob mate.
It helps in a way, though.
Gives the speaker a wider spectrum to produce.
Wyłącz delay
The point of this is hearing the speaker and its frequency profile, reverb just obscures and alters that, so no, I disagree and just want to hear the speaker dry.
Matthew Blue All good Matt. This video is what it is. I’ll take that into consideration in future speaker comparisons (if any).
Sorry, why the reverb, you can’t really hear things clearly and how was this miked and recorded?
Matthew Blue Seems to be a common complaint- my bad. I liked the tone so I recorded it. It’s an iPhone recording
@@blakemansfield2356 I understand and that was certainly easy. I record all the time and to me to get hear the differences in just the speakers, no reverb would be better and one mike like a 57 at the same place on each speaker would be best. But thanks for making the video as it does give you some sense of the differences
@@matthewblue7839 For most of us that use reverb it gives the best sense of the differences. Without some verb they sound a little anemic. Don't you think? To each his own.
Please take the whammy bar away from him
H CC Come and get it. I honestly don’t play my Strat that often so I go a little over the top with it. Bad habit
Says the guy with the Bigsby equipped Gretsch avatar lol.
Lol.
Chill out hater