Ranks and Accolades of the Hadley's Hope Rescue Squad- Explained
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- An overview of the USCM soldiers and civilian advisers that comprised the doomed mission to the Hadley's Hope colony on LV-426, as seen in James Cameron's Aliens.
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I always thought Ferro was badass and she immediately reached for her sidearm upon seeing the drone. Fighter till the end.
Fuck yeah! I really felt bad for her! She was killed too soon
@@offtherealm5438 not always. During WW2 you had NCO pilots in numerous armies. In the UK you have NCO pilots in the Army Air Corps.
But also... This is a fictional universe.
@@offtherealm5438 but your original statement is now contradicted by your second one. You mentioned as a matter of fact that they are always officers or WOs, but then after contradict that.
Sorry but the British Army today has NCOs flying in the Army Air Corps, so you can stand by your statement but it is incorrect.
But also, once again, even despite all that, it is a fictional universe.
@@offtherealm5438 I'm not Christ, but I am pretty awesome.
You can laugh away but once again, it doesn't detract from the reality. Oh well.
@@offtherealm5438 once again, fictional universe and the facts and even your own secondary statement contradict your first.
Just suck it up, you misspoke.
Sgt. Apone was a disappointing loss to the mission. I think he would have added a lot to the storyline and give the team more resolve and ''purpose''!
hey, sarge! you can get lip cancer smoking those!
I wish he would of stayed in the movie longer as well.
In real life, Al Matthews is a former Marine from the 4/11 Marines, if I remember.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Matthews_%28actor%29?wprov=sfla1
"Look into my eyes !"
Fall in people. Come on, let's go...
The true survivor of Aliens was...
The Cat, Mr. Jones. 🐱
er...that was from "Alien".....
K Comm his also in aliens
Called "Jonesy" in "Alien".
If hypersleep counts, he's also the longest living cat in HISTORY.
@@fuzzytransmissionman but without 9 lives anymore
I would have liked to have seen Hudson go a little further in the story. At first glance, he came off as a bit of a chickenshit that talked big. But when push came to shove, his bravery came through and he was very bit the warrior as the rest of the Marines. He did not turn tail like Burke, but rather fought hard until he was overrun. It would have been an interesting "growth" in his character's story. Yes, he was a smart ass and maybe even unreliable, but at the moment of truth he came through. Reminds me of the saying "Pressure can turn coal into diamonds."
russell28533 id kill for a Hidson spinoff. even if it was just him working drive thru at a fast food restaurant.
Paul Will I’d kill for a Colonial Marines series on Netflix or something, with Vasquez and Drake and Hudson and all.
Even Gorman had redemption when he went out with Vasquez
In the German dub (which I watched first, back when I was a kid), Hudson's last words before he gets pulled down are a defiant "NOT YET!" that whoever did the translation added, and I liked that a lot. I was disappointed to see it was "missing" in the original version.
Also, as a fun side note, they also added Apone yelling "Hudson, don't forget your gun!" to the scene where the marines move out.
Not shit he didn’t turn tail like Burke... the latter isn’t a marine. No big surprise here.
I think if Drake had survived he would have assaulted Hudson for his complaining and would need to be restrained from killing Burke, once his treachery was uncovered. Frost would have been cool under pressure. If Apone had survived, I'm not sure he would have listened to Ripley's advice as much as Hicks did. However I think Apone did respect Ripley after she'd shown her abilities with the power loader.
I agree with most of your assessments. I agree Apone being more confident and experienced than Hicks would certainly have rejected Ripley's suggestion to nuke the colony, at least not at first and likely not while Lt. Gorman was only temporarly disabled. I think he would have tried
Hudson's suggestion to roll nerve gas canisters into the hive to at least kill off the remaining colonists and captured Marines to spare them being used as hosts. I think he would have maintained more discipline among the Marines and I believe that would have included notifying the dropship
of the nature of the Xeno threat and the need to up their security at their landing site while Apone and Gorman came up with another option.
I would have liked to have seen Drake and Vasquez's interactions a little longer.
Lmao
I like where you went with that. 😊
Of all the posts I think you are most accurate of how that would playout. I see Apone going in to retrieve his men and probably getting everyone killed as well in the attempt. He would have listened more closely to Ripley but would not want to give up his command. Where as I think Drake would say F it and nuke the whole site that Ripley recommended as well as the Alien ship.
Frosty. He was cool and funny. The close encounters shotgun line is one of the best.
Also Ferro, she was badass and as a kid I had a crush on her. 😋
Was it the "5 by 5" line that did it?
@@mister8800 probably
Yeah, Frosty would be cool. He was so grossly unarmed, that shot with him and his pistol was always really haunting to me, yet he's still being a professional. This is one situation being a black belt isn't going to help too much. Maybe in a last stand capacity like Vasquez in the duct - have fun hopping out of there!
Was just watching an episode of Stranger Things when a team goes into the underground hive and the leader says, "stay frosty." I thought, cool nod to Aliens...and this isn't going to go well.
Nerd Manual Sound effects from Aliens also! :)
And keep in mind 'Burke' was the doctor in Stranger Things Season 2 as well. I also loved the 'radar' scene in Stranger Things, very Aliens like.
i like how they had to made up for him being an ass in alien in stranger things 2
That scene also has elements from C.H.U.D. in the scene where the cameramen go into the tunnel and the cops are waiting for them.
@TheNewyorkdragon But when it is used in a show that has nods to everything, then I would lean more towards nod than coincidence
Ideally? I would've loved to see Drake and Vasquez go down together in a blaze of glory in the comm center. Just the two mowing down as many bugs a humanly possible before being overwhelmed, buying time for the others to escape.
Lame lol
@@morbidone88 Eh, I tried.
@@southy98 your profile pic is gold
Honestly I think Dietrich would’ve been pretty useful since she was a medic.
Defiantly Drake, with him, Vasquez, Hudson and Hicks together during the shootout scene, they would have taken down scores of aliens.
Robert Agtang ,Jr same
What we all didn't get to experience was a kick ass video game where u could pick any of these characters u named. Maybe with this new game they'll have this legendary dlc. Its fun to dream
@@mitchellwright8771 That sounds awesome. Aliens was the franchise's finest hour and a game directly based on it would be killer
I agree with you
The mission was doomed from the start. A single squad and a crewless automated ship? Also, the dropship should have stayed airborne in a holding pattern. Or at least kept the ramp closed. They knew the capabilities of the aliens.
Watching the movie again recently the same thing came to mind, leaving the ramp down like that was pretty stupid.
I believe like the rest of the Marines, they didn’t know of the Xenomorph’s capabilities. They had the information on a disc that Gorman mentioned before the mission started that they should have studied up on. But they apparently ignored it.
I also have to agree. Leaving the ramp open was a mistake.
The Dropship landed so Spunkmeyer could deliver supplies to Bishop in Medlab if you recall him asking where to put the stuff. It wasn't just a random landing.
It's like why couldn't they just walk to the ship since they were only about 200 yards from it.
The Sulaco would of had its own crew similar to a Navy ship.
You really put a lot into these videos and it really shows. Even the ambient music in the background really serves the mood and intention of the video. Love your content.
logged, and would have liked to see more Crowe, never even noticed him until now, same can be said for Wierzbowski.
Tip Tippins (Crowe) was a englosh stuntman and formaer Royal Marine Commando and SAS soldier. He died in a parashooting accident. Talking about being a badass...
Apone obviously, and Frost
Dito
And Drake
Definitely Drake and Frost. The already existing interactions between Drake and Vasquez were amazing, and I would've loved to see more of that. And Frost was always super cool (no pun intended), funny, and fearless, perfect for this sort of mission, and seemed like the big brother of the group, looking after the rest of the grunts.
I have to go with Ferro (maybe because she voices the dropship in Starcraft)
Love me some star craft
"Hey Vazquez. Have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
304bacon No, have you?!
304bacon ' No! Have you '?
REAL6 You’re just too bad
304bacon no have you ?
I'm with you AT, Drake's toughness and go-get-it mentality when it came to blasting Xenomorphs would've made for an even more exciting Operations battle. I could even see him blasting a couple pulse rifles, or a flamethrower in one hand and pulse in the other, or simultaneously switching while everyone is moving to medical. I could also see him beating the shit out of Burke for what he did to Ripley and Newt while the others try to calm him down. Frost would've also made a cool addition too; he seemed to have the right sense of humor, and the one-liners in moments that the audience could relate to, like in Sub-Level 3.
My one question though is what the hell really happened to Wierzbowski? His death has always intrigued me for years, because it was the most random, non-descript death in the whole movie. I hear he got burned in the pulse ammo flames, or that Xeno acid got him, or a Xeno captured him for cocooning... all theories, no proof. Did the novel explain more what happened to him?
Samuel Fox When it cuts to Wierzbowski’s camera view, it shows him spinning around in a circle before it cuts off. Hudson later only references the fact that Dietrich and Apone are alive in the hive. This implies that he was likely killed by the xenomorphs. With all the screaming and spinning he was doing, it appears he was being assaulted from multiple angles, and thus was rapidly spinning around to check and protect all his flanks. If multiple xenos were closing in on him and he wasn’t seen being pulled up or away like the others, and if explosions and acid obviously didn’t kill him, then it can only mean one thing: he was killed by a xenomorph who got behind his unguarded flank. After all, why would he have been screaming for a while _before_ his camera was cut off and he clearly wasn’t being dragged away? Why else would Hudson not mention him when he was being so specific about who was left? It’s the only logical answer supported by everything the film showed us.
@@purpleemerald5299
The way it's cut /
appears in the movie...
it looks like Wierzbowski
is killed alongside or almost
at the same moment as Crowe
when (Frost's??) ammo-bag
catches fire & explodes.
More to the point...
it looks like Wierzbowski is staring
at the bag of ammo just as Hicks
is trying to pull him away
(presumably, before it explodes).
Simply put...
I'm "assuming"
that Wierzbowski
was killed in the same
ammo-blast as Crowe...
but with W's death being
a bit more delayed.
But again...
that is just speculation
because of the difficult angles
as per the film's cutting/ editing.
Awesome answer on your part, btw💯👍
@@VredesStall There's a cut scene where you can see Hicks helping 'Baski recover after the explosion, then a moment later (which is actually in the film) 'Baski is missing from the same spot and you hear his screams. You can find still images of this bit.
@@williamsphil9445
So...
did Wierzbowski
get taken by a Xeno??
When the Squad make it back to
the 'safety' of the armored vehicle...
Hicks comments about Apone & Dietrich
being alive (albeit, with low vitals)...
but he never says anything
about Wierzbowski.
So I'm guessing that 'Bowski
was killed during the attack in the hive
(along with Frost, Crowe, Drake
and later... Spunkmeyer, Ferro,
Gorman and Vazquez)...
with Apone and Dietrich
(and later, Hicks and Burke)
being taken to be cocooned.
More pvt. Hudson, can't get enough Bill Paxton
Why dont you pit her in charge!!! Craics meup every time
So cool to have all this amplifying info on a 1986 film. Thanks for the share.
“Excuse me sir.. a zeno what?”
“It’s a bug hunt”
Why was Frost the only marine that seemed to not know about aliens?
Drakes death was too sudden, and I think Crowe and Frost would have really helped tip the scales. Great video as always
Hey, Derek. How do I get outta this chickenshit outfit? 😀
secure that shit!
"look in to my eye...."
Want me to fetch you your slippers?
Professor Zoom Gee sir I'd like that.
You secure that shit Zoom!!!
"Okay, people let's move it; assholes and elbows!"
"Alright sweethearts, you heard the man and you know the drill: assholes and elbows! Hudson-c'mere! Come here!"
*pushes glasses up nose
mysterious - A quote I still use to this day!! :D
Well, that and ""Let's Rock!!"" sometimes with accompanying Smartgun burst sounds!! lol
I guess you all know the derivation of assholes & elbows. My father taught me that long before Aliens came out!
TheEyez187 Bro!!! I still do that and my brother and best friend still laugh to this day!! Followed the with the burst sound effects!! 💥
What an absolutely terrific series. Thank you so much for making these!!
I was a FMF Navy hospital Corpsman 2002-2005. Never knew there was one in Aliens with Deitrich. How cool is that! For all you wondering, Navy Corpsman aka medics get attached/deployed with Marines. They are techniqually a department of the Navy thus why they dont have their own corpsman/medics. Its a great honor to serve with the Marines as a FMF corpsman. We get to wear their BDU's, and experience their service culture which is way different then the Navy's. We have to earn our place among them but once we do, they always have our backs.
So hard to choose. I think one of the testaments to just how GOOD this movie was, is that how many movies we’ve had through history where a military squad (or any group really) was just a bunch of bodies that the movie didn’t make you care about before killing them. They usually just exist in relation to the main hero and are there to up the body count and maybe raise the stakes a little. Through a combination of good writing, good directing, and good acting, these characters all were imbued with distinctive personalities, quirks, strengths, weaknesses AND idiosyncrasies. And they were able to pull it off despite many of them having just a scene or two, or just a couple of lines. Great stuff.
I still think it's cool one of the Marines has my actual last name "Wierzbowski". It's not a common last name either. I'd love to know how they came up with it.
Happy I'm on there too M Drake
It would have been nice to see Crowe or Wierzbowski survive long enough to have had lines in the film. Even if they may have been delivered with English accents.
Tip Tippins (Crowe) was a englosh stuntman and formaer Royal Marine Commando and SAS soldier. He died in a parashooting accident. Talking about being a badass...
I know this is three years late but
In the novelisation they had a lot more lines. I don't know why they weren't included in either the theatrical or the director's cut of the film though.
@@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
Because Cameron originally wanted all American actors to play the Marines, but there were only so many in the UK or could get there in
time for the production.
@@TheLAGopher This is true. With some like Biehn they only had time to ask if they had a passport.
Crowe did have one line in the film, and his accent seemed passable.
@@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 What was his line?
stay frosty
Hey man, love your longer videos with more hidden, in depth knowledge. Always a great experience
I would’ve like to see Crowe go further. An unknown character that survived the hive attack would’ve been cool to explore later in the mission.
Happy holidays Alien Theory Guy. Im thankful for ur creative alien videos...n i hope that other guy biting ur videos is gives u credit. Happy holidays man. (And ida liked Bishop to have made it)
Vasquez. Or Drake. I loved those 2.
I love this video of the characters', bios! Great job, man! "I love Hicks"
I heard in an interview with Rico Ross that he (Frost) got some lines from other characters because Cameron wanted to persuade him to be in the movie, as he had been offered a part in Full Metal Jacket at the same time. Maybe he got some lines that would''ve gone to Crowe or 'Baski, but since those two were both played by real life stuntmen, I don't think they were ever intended to do very much.
I REALLY wanted to see more of Apone. And Hudson deserved better
I definitely would have liked to have had more Sgt. Apone and Frost. I love Apone’s interaction with Hudson.
I would have actually liked to see the fate of Dietrich rather than assume she was successfully used as a host. Seeing it would have boosted the "hopelessness" factor of the ordeal in my opinion.
They mention it in the movie. Hudson says something, so it's not assumed.
And I call myself a huge Alien fan. I didn't even know these infos. Shame on me. Thanks God, I found your amazing channel. I love the way you edit your videos: music, sounds, scenes...everything is so captivating
Well-organized. Good job in presentation.
definetley my boy Al Matthews asa sgt Apone..my he rest in peace not only in fiction but in reality..great man, good friend, great man..from La Zenia, Spain we will always remeber you, youre a legend
Cameron made some great characters and I wish we could have seen more of them but perhaps one reason they were great was because of how little we saw.
I would liked to have seen Sgt Apone survive a little longer, however I completely understand the reasoning behind his death/capture which ultimately leads to Hicks character development. Also, as stated in the video, Drake would have been great to see in action in the final shootout scene with the rest of the gang. Once again another great upload. Thanks for all your fantastic content. I was wondering if you've also read River of Pain, the follow up to Out of the Shadows? I've listened to the dramatised versions of both on Audible. With great performances from Rutger Hauer in Out of the Shadows and Colin Salmon in River of Pain. Personally I prefer River of Pain as I believe it's easier to imagine this as canon before I imagine events in Out of the Shadows as canon. I also really enjoyed how they slightly expanded Riplelys story and of course learning so much more about the Jorden family particularly little Newt 😀.
“Let’s ROCK!” Drake and to see the drop ship light some bugs up!
Can you explain what the grain parasites are that the marines encountered before the xenomorph,and their history?
Brendan Stanley great question
Brendan Stanley you can read the novel aliens colonial marines. It consists of fifteen short stories about a few of the marine's in aliens. I think it speaks of Frost,Deightree,Apone,Hicks, and possibly a couple more. It's a great read and tales of the other types of Bugs the Colonial Marines have encountered.
I would've liked to have Drake survive and Frost.
+XENO 178 Are you referring to the Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual? I tried looking up the book you mentioned but that was all I was able to come up with. However, it doesn't sound quite like what you described. :/ I would be very interested in reading some short stories about those characters you mentioned. :)
XENO 178 I think you mean Aliens: Bug Hunt.
ABSOLUTELY BADASS as usual! Where did you get the backstory info?
From The Weyland Yutani Report and Alan Dean Foster's novelization. Lots of great details to the characters.
I agree although personally I think Mr. Foster could've left out the whole chapter on Jones that cat's lineage going all the way back 2 generations 😉
Great video.
The one biggest let down in the movie was how Spunkmeyer obviously died off screen.
That the colonists got wiped out off screen also wasn't as bad as that added to the mystery as well as the horror of the marines finding the remains of the battle and remind me of a piece of history of the early english colonization of the US eastern coast where the colony of Roanoke seemingly disappeared without a trace.
Though semi canonically Hicks does survive (Alien3) as he was not inside his cryo pod but that was in the game Aliens: Colonial Marines and as far as I know not confirmed in any other media.
Yeah, they didn't really play that scene for tension. It was like he ran inside the ship closed the baydoor and she was killed immediately. Also rather hard to believe that he wouldn't have freaked out at the sight of the alien mucus inside the ship given their briefing and what they were there to investigate.
I think viewers forget that Ripley was a competant crew member of a freighter, something like a 3rd mate on a ship. She knew right away the distances on the motion tracker was odd, as you'd have to be super cautious with distances concerning the maneuvering of a ship. She really was like a very competant engineer type character, someone who is very smart and capable of quickly understanding the enviroment and how to make use of anything found in it. She adapts quickly to the militaristic nature of the mission because of this, and I belive that is why. Engineering has many of the same level thinkin; blueprints, barricading, strong or weak structural points etc. Also She was the one to realize the dander of fighting under the fusion core at the plant.
+Alien Theory At 9:10 you say all but Ripley, Hicks, and Newt SURVIVED the incident.....
He is talking about those who were recruited by Burke himself.
Thanks for uploading this. I always wanted a backstory.
Love your videos!
Brilliant video today one of your best
That's just great man ...go out there with those things running around ...you can count me out
Very awesome video :)
I guess I really wanted Burke to survive. He was the only one concerned about the needless destruction of private property, and the freedom of the Weyland Company to do business without undue regulation and government interference. Burke was the real hero of this story.
A subplot with Drake rescuing Vazquez might have been nice... but it's as close to perfect as a movie gets so I usually don't have the "what ifs". :)
Kick Ass Alien Theory Episode !
A long time ago I remember James Cameron talking about the British East India Company's private army being his model for the USMC. Basically former marines employed by the USMC and commanded by company men. The rest was based on amerias experience in Vietnam. Apone, was in real life, a retired USMC Sergeant.
Great list!
Would've like to see more Frost or Apone, but I never thought of Drake, I would've loved to see how he reacted to Burke. Him and Hudson would've made for a funny duo
Drake probably would've held Hudson down and had Bishop do the knife trick again.
Like you, I agree that Drake should have survived the raid of the Xenomorphs. Apone too. And I like your explanations with the Alien universe so much that I´ve already suscribed. Keep up for more man!
I would have liked to have seen more of Vasquez, but it wouldn't be an Alien film if there were no dumb decisions!
Great video as always, I'm just off to watch it in Spanish! LOL
What I don't understand is why the Sulaco was left totally unmanned during the ground mission to LV426.
It would of been invaluable to have an second drop ship crew on standby and monitoring the ground mission comms from orbit.
Very good point!
Honestly wouldn't change a thing about the movie; so many cool and lovable characters that will never be forgotten, were done perfectly. All the following alien movies on the other hand...
I really enjoyed watching this. Got to know some more about some of the disposable characters. I wonder what would have happened if they'd all survived (by not entering the hive), could they have held out against an unknown number of Xenomorphs?
Great to have you and your work back mate. 👍👍👍👍👍
Hudson for sure. I love the way he went out, it was badass, but it would have been cool to see him survive. Or Vasquez.
At 8:51-8:52, when Spunkmeyer is going to board the dropship, something black--probably a xenomorph--moves very fast from left to right inside the building behind the ship.
We need a video on the drop ship and the APC those would be bad ass.
Frost would have been great to see survive further into the movie. His smartass quips were hilarious. "I guess she don't like the cornbread, either."
I find it interesting that a LT wasn't followed by a First Sergeant. while Master Sgt. is still E8 there is no command role assigned to that rank. also, there were no other links in the chain of command in the squad until you hit a Corporal. is the USCM hard up for soldiers? or is the United Americas that rich that squads have their own FTL ships
Dropship pilot should have been a WO-2 or so. Only the Germans trust NCOs with aircraft.
@@roberthaworth8991 According to the USCM technical manual, that should have been the case.. but apparently this writer decided that an E-4 was good enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ this is also coming from the series that called the dropship an APC for 3 to 4 books.
I always thought that it was strange that they did not have any back up on the Sulaco you would think that there would be some reserves on the ship but definitely would have liked to have seen Drake survive a bit longer
I always interpreted that as the company being cheap, like how the Nostromo was barely staffed. If I recall correctly, it was a long-shot that they were going to find anything. It also could be by design, maybe they didn't want anyone left behind that could report what was going on or barrage LV-426 with the Sulaco (damn, that would be an awesome scene) . Whatever it is it makes for great a great story!
Always had a soft spot for Ferro - bad ass pilot, no fear - wish she had more screen time. I think overall though I wanted more of the Drake and Vasquez partnership in the movie - I get that they were both Smart Gun operators so were split between the search teams but I always wanted Drake to escape the Hive unscathed and make it back aboard the APC. I played out so many different scenarios of the Hive scene with action figures as a kid....................I was so in love with this movie all through my childhood (& still to this day) that it was the basis of all my soldiers/figure playtimes. Not to mention drafting up alternate missions on my own screenplays for my favourite crew of ultimate bad asses from the minute I could type & use my first home computer. (yes I was that sad)
I have to say, good sir, that I have watched a number of your pieces now and the quality is superb, as are your insights and views on the two 'real' films in the pantheon :). If only the 'empty suits' at Fox had sought out such as you as a subject matter specialist we might not have ended up with the disappointing shower of {USMC language redacted :D} we ended up with. I was very excited when AvP was announced, for the novel I had read (entitled "Prey") was an excellent expansion of the tale. As a film, it is still okay but it is not what it should have been in and of itself nor as a stepping stone to piecing together the back story that ties the Predators, the Aliens and Humankind together. As to pretty much anything else, even those featuring the redoubtable Sigourney Weaver ... well, I refer back to the colourful USMC metaphorical phrases that seem appropriate :D.
I think Apone would've been an interesting one to keep around. I'm curious as to what tactics, if anything different, he would've implemented.
Daniel Kash, who played Spunkmeyer, is the brother of the comic actress Linda Kash, who appears in a few of Christopher Guest's comedies (Waiting for Guffman and Best In Show). She is most famous for playing the Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese Angel. Daniel and Linda are children of famous Canadian opera singer Maureen Forrester. Anyway, every time I see cream cheese I think of Spunkmeyer.
horseytown Daniel later played Dr. Dresden in The Expanse. Talk about aliens...
I do like how Vasquez grabbed Gorman’s hand how she does when shaking hands with Drake.... but it’s like, “you’re one of us, now” and he redeemed himself, she even shit talked him how you do with your buddies that you’re close with “you always were an asshole, Gorman.” I dunno, it just warms my heart even tho we lose the baddest bitch after Ripley, Vasquez... but I’m glad he was redeemed, regardless if he lived a whole 3 seconds after his redemption, he still redeemed himself.
Drake was a loose cannon and would have either tried to take control from Hicks or bullied Hudson at his times of struggle.
For my money I would like to know what would have happened if Burke had survived to the end with Ripley, would he have somehow gotten the queen into the airlock but not blow it into space? Who knows...would have been interesting to see how much farther Burke would go for the company.
God I hated Burke.
Can you make a video about the xenomorph inteligence and communication?
I would have liked to see how Apone would evaluate the defensive position they had to take, and his steadiness to rally the crew
A little correction. Apone may have been listed as a MSG (Master Sergeant) but his chevron's are those of a SFC (Sergeant First Class). SFC is one pay grade lower than a MSG. SFC is an E-7 and a MSG is an E-8. A minor discrepancy somebody missed somewhere along the way. No big deal.
To be more correct, an E7 in the Marine Corps is a Gunnery Sergeant.
Wierzbowski! I've always thought from Hicks shouting his name that he was so shocked that he was gone. Was Wierzbowski meant to be one of the ultimate, ultimate badasses? His death was certainly the one that made Vasquez finally take action - "Let's rock!". Just my theory anyway.
Also Apone and Drake!
Im with you, Drake for sure.
I dont even recall several of those guys!
I wish we saw apone last longer than what we got, him, hicks and Hudson were my favorite in aliens and it would've been cool to see some others live a bit longer
I agree with Drake. He may have been a serve our jail recruit. But when he spoke and made reports, he had his head in the game
Top 3 “wish they could have been in the latter stages”: Drake, Ferro, Crowe
Drake, for obvious reasons, would have given the team another much needed fighter and someone who paired well with Vasquez. Maybe that’s why they killed the character, so she could develop a bond with Hudson by the end that she likely wouldn’t have with Drake around. Regardless, he’d have been a good loose cannon character who was very capable, if a bit ill-disciplined. He seemed a bit anti-authority too so he might not have been as easy to talk down as Vasquez was regarding Gorman or Burke. Could have been an interesting way to ratchet up internal tension.
Ferro was just such a distinctive character, I’d have liked to see her more and seen how she holds up under combat. I get why they had to get rid of her, to an extent: they needed the dropship to not be an option. What would have been really interesting is if Ferro was able to eject. Not sure if the Cheyenne can do that since it’s capable of breaking atmosphere, but it should be an option for atmospheric flight. If she was able to eject, you could achieve the same result of not having access to transport, the crash that still wastes the APC, but with the benefit of another body on the ground. She’d have made an interesting addition as a marine who wasn’t a line trooper/rifleman. She was always very cool and calm in the cockpit but the destruction of the dropship could have been a great character development as she’s suddenly thrust into the world of the troops on the ground as something of a fish out of water. That could have rattled her and led to a character shift, or she could have stepped up like Gorman did. Great possibilities without wildly throwing off the situation or group dynamic. It could also have presented an interesting portrayal of humans vs synthetics as It’s unknown if Ferro is qualified for remote piloting like Bishop is. She might not have taken to a synthetic encroaching on her area of expertise.
Crowe is just a “I want to know more about this character” addition. Him, Wierzbowski, and Frost probably have the least characterization. The main reason I picked him over Wierzbowski or Frost was because Frost jokingly was going to “call [Crowe’s] folks” when they got back without him. Might have been interesting to see the role reversal of Crowe potentially having to call Frost’s folks instead.
Of course I’d have liked more Hudson and Hicks too. Hicks’ treatment in Alien 3 was beyond criminal. It’s maybe the only thing about Aliens Colonial Marines that is nice (if far-fetched).
Frost, I feel given his nicknames he would have had interesting interactions with the rest of the team after they escaped in the APC
I think Drake, and Apone would have both been good choices to see survive past the initial confrontation, and it was almost criminal how they were taken out of the game so soon.
GRRRRR absolutely badasses!
Drake and Apone. I'm sure that the team would have escaped had these two lived longer.
I can't help but be greedy by saying Drake, Apone, and Frosty. Love the in-depth of the marines in this one dude.
Definitely Drake and Vazquez. I would've like to see Burke survive as well.
Drake all the way with hicks Hudson and Velasquez one word unstoppble 😁😁
"Is this gonna be a stand up fight or another bug hunt?"
Frost for sure
If they were Marines, isn't Apone's rank Gunnery Sergeant? Having three chevrons and 2 rockers below.
I think he meant to say Master Gunnery Sergeant!
I would have liked to have seen more of Frost. Their character development was perfectly executed so their loss is felt all the more.
Was he though? Ferro had better lines and some of them were used in Starcraft. She should be proud.
I like the idea that the events created friction between the USCM and WY.
I wouldn't want to see Drake survive any longer then he did. He make it out of the reactor core and his death was a tribute 2 his clouded aggression. I really would have liked to see Sergeant Apone live. I believe he could have had tactical impact on their final defensive as well as contingency plan that may have been on the offensive.
I guess Frost didn’t stay too FROSTY when the Xenos attacked.