The patina is why most people buy the Brass Sport. It seems odd you would buy a pen that you have to keep polishing. The patina is different with every pen, and along with a scratch here and there, it's what gives a pen individual character. It's what makes the pen yours. Anyway, heavy pens are much better for long writing sessions, if you just ease your grip and let the pen do the work. I know it sounds logical that a light pen would be easier on the hand, but it simply isn't/ A light pen requires a firmer grip, and more control than a heavy pen. I spend twenty years using a fountain pen a medium of eight hours per day, and many days ran up to twelve hours. Occasionally longer. I learned very quickly from the pros that I did not want to use a light pen. They were so right. As soon as I started using a heavy pen, and relaxed my grip so the weight of the pen did all the work, my hand fatigue and cramping disappeared. There are fourteen Brass Sports in my fountain pen group. There are other metal Sports, too, but I only use the Brass Sport as a serious work pen, so it's the one I talk about. I'm long retired (officially) but still use fountain pen five hours every morning Monday through Friday, and every now and then on the weekend. I have many pens I love, including one that cost a hundred and fifty times what I Paid for the Brass Sport. Even my three daily carry, take anywhere and everywhere pens are not cheap. For years, they were the Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age, the Scribo Feel, and the Pilot Custom 823, which is fairly cheap. Now, however, the 823 is gone and the Brass Sport has replaced it. I know how heavy the Brass Sport is, but when writing with it the weight just disappears. The shortness of the pen puts the weight down on the nib, and I can write with it for hours without even noticing that it's heavy. Honestly, this pen isn't for everyone, and I hesitated buying it for years. It's small, it has a tiny nib, a tiny feed, and almost no ink capacity. It works better with cartridges, which I refill, than it does with the converter, and because of the tiny nib and feed it can go dry if you write too fast for too long, so what's to like? The Brass it's made of, and the beautiful patina, is what made me give it a try, and I love it to death. It was love at first write. I love it so much that I bought a second one and put a gold nib on it. Many fountain pen owners are used to writing with lightweight pens, and won't know how to use a heavy pen that has the weight on the paper, rather than on the hand, so they won't like this pen for that reason, or because of the tiny ink capacity, or whatever, but I find writing with it almost addictive, and I use it just as often as I do any of my much more expensive pens.
Thanks for the input. Appreciate your experience as a user. I'm with you on the Brass Sport as others may be as well. It's not for everyone, but those that like a heavy but well balanced pen, it's a joy. The patina is a personal choice. Most time's I'll let mine go mellow gracefully, but like to start fresh every now and then. People who buy used brass pens may also want to start off fresh and let it patina from there on. You may also like one of the Kara's Kustom metal pens as well. I have the INK V2 in copper and that one is one of my favorites. It patinas really well as long as you keep using it and gets a light to dark sheen on it. If I stop using it, it gets a dull oxidation on it and a few days of use will restore that personal patina to it. Some may not like the copper smell on your fingers, but it stops once it builds that oxidation layer.
Thank you for the kind words Marina. Glad you found it useful. As for inks, I like a variety of colours to use in a day, so its whatever I'm in the mood for to use with whatever pen I choose.
I have 2 of the Kaweco Brass Sport pens. I carry them and other pens in a Lihit Lab case that I got from Jet Pens. The Brass Sports write very well, and have become my go-to pens for journaling, and for work at the office. I am very satisfied with these pens, might buy one of the Steel Sport pens sometime later this year. Thanks for your wonderful review.
You can't go wrong with any of the metal Sports. Wonderful writers and built to last. Just be warned, the Steel sport is heavy, but if you like hefty pens, you'll love it.
Excellent comparison video! I have the Brass Sport and absolutely love it. I'm so happy that you used the Diamine Ancient Copper ink in the example. I was thinking about getting the cartridges; that is a nice-looking ink.
I have the Kaweco Brass Sport and I love it, however, after seeing the Namisu N2 in your case I went to their site and ordered one. So I guess I should thank you,..I had never seen the Namisu pens before and I love the look of the N2.
@@phi1688 That is really a tough one. I would have to go with the N2. I actually really like the o-rings instead of the threads. The thing that I really favor though is that the N2 has a #6 nib and I have a lot of those to change the nib if I like. I currently have a .6 stub on it and I LOVE it with that nib. Namisu is based in Scotland,..and I don't think I own anything that is made in Scotland (assuming that is where it was made), so that adds a little "cool factor" for me as well. I have the Brass Sport and the Liliput, and you can't go wrong with either one of those for a pocket pen. I also think the N2 is a little bit better looking.
I thought you had a really good review, but were missing a key element. In comparing the different materials, I was hoping that you would also comment on how they felt in the hand and the balance and weight. I have several of the plastic Sports but am looking for something with a bit more heft and was curious about these metal ones.
Good point. The weight assessment feel can be a bit subjective. But I understand your point of view. I, personally like something with heft that feels bit more tactile. Others may find a heavy pen tiring for long sessions. All of them need to be used posted for comfort and a balanced feel, unless you have tiny hands. Between the 3, for brass and steel are certainty considered very heavy. I like that for sketching and general doodling. The extra weight helps for smoother, fluid drawing strokes. The AL may strike a perfect compromise for long writing sessions for those that like a bit of weight and feel substantial compared to the plastic Sports. The ALs are my every day carry for mixed use (short notes, page long writes and drawing) and they get more use compared to the Plastic, brass or steel versions. From what you describe, I think you would be happy with an AL sport.
I have a question. Is it safe to refill the cartridges with the ink of your choice? My concern is about proper sealing when reusing the cartridges, so you don’t get ink leaking inside the pen.
Perfectly safe and sometimes a better option than the Kaweco mini converters since the converter holds so little ink. The material used in the cartridges is either a type of polyethylene or nylon, so it's pretty flexible and forgiving for friction fit. Maintenance is the key. Clean out the cartridge - I use a syringe to blast water to remove all ink. Completely let them air dry out. Refill with your choice of ink using a syringe. I've reused the same cartridge quite a few times (upwards of 10-15 fills). I don't recall the exact number of times but I have dozens of used cartridges that I don't throw out so grab a random one and fill as needed. Just keep an eye on any that have developed cracks on the barrel or may have started to split. I haven't come across any that are loose, but that is a possibility if you use the same one over and over. If cracked or loose, just toss them and use the next one. But test fit a dry cartridge before filling to make sure it fits fine and isn't loose to avoid and mishaps.
From the top: Ensso XS Minimalist in Copper and Aluminum. Delike Pocket in Black and Brass. Ensso Piuma Pocket Titanium. Namisu N1 Pocket in Titanium Rainbow and Steel Black.
Yes, all the caps, barrels and grip sections between the three are interchangeable. The caps will also fit the plastic Sports but not the grip/barrels.
@@Christian-t9o Well, I ignored that the Kaweco Sport was also made of silver alloy at some point, that's why I did not include that material on my list. If so, then yes. Here below the chart... AVERAGE DENSITIES: • 925 Silver alloy (Ag + Cu +/or others): 10.30 g/cm³ • Bronze alloy (Cu + Sn): 8.90 g/cm³ • Brass alloy (Cu + Zn): 8.73 g/cm³ • Steel alloy (Fe + C + Cr + Ni + Mb +/or others): 7.85 g/cm³ • Aluminum (Al): 2.70 g/cm³ • Acrylic plastic: 1.19 g/cm³
How is it possible that the STEEL is heavier than the BRASS, when the brass is denser than any kind of stainless steel alloy? Maybe you had the BRASS without cartridge / converter and the STEEL with it? Or the BRASS with an empty cartridge / converter and the STEEL with an inked one?
Great video. Can i ask you something that is bother me. I recently bought a kaveco sport bronze and i found tha the insignia at the cap is playing slightly when i put it on the pen. It feels like it's a little loose. Does any sport of yours does it ? Thanks in advance.
Thank You. Are you referring to the silver end finial at the top of the cap? That should be secure. You may be able to pop it off an epoxy it back on so you don't lose it. The cap itself has a plastic liner inside (for Brass, Aluminum and Steel versions). If that is what you are talking about, it may be loose inside. I've heard some people have had that issue. Unfortunately, I never had to remove the liner before. All mine are secure and allow the pen to post securely without being loose. If I find out, I'll let you know how to fix it.
Brass actually. But if you have some spare change lying around, you can buy the Sterling Silver Sport for about $1800 USD! Might be their most expensive pen.
@@qvisionstudios I said bronze because I meant BRONZE..... I have a Brass model.......... however I had no idea they had a silver....and that is a RIDICULOUS price for that anyway!!
@@MikeG-js1jt Had to look it up. Only found one post in Reddit regarding the Bronze Sport. Waiting for an official release. Wonder why they went with Bronze when it's so close to looks to the Brass. What I'd really like is them to make a Copper Sport!
The patina is why most people buy the Brass Sport. It seems odd you would buy a pen that you have to keep polishing. The patina is different with every pen, and along with a scratch here and there, it's what gives a pen individual character. It's what makes the pen yours.
Anyway, heavy pens are much better for long writing sessions, if you just ease your grip and let the pen do the work. I know it sounds logical that a light pen would be easier on the hand, but it simply isn't/ A light pen requires a firmer grip, and more control than a heavy pen.
I spend twenty years using a fountain pen a medium of eight hours per day, and many days ran up to twelve hours. Occasionally longer. I learned very quickly from the pros that I did not want to use a light pen. They were so right. As soon as I started using a heavy pen, and relaxed my grip so the weight of the pen did all the work, my hand fatigue and cramping disappeared.
There are fourteen Brass Sports in my fountain pen group. There are other metal Sports, too, but I only use the Brass Sport as a serious work pen, so it's the one I talk about. I'm long retired (officially) but still use fountain pen five hours every morning Monday through Friday, and every now and then on the weekend. I have many pens I love, including one that cost a hundred and fifty times what I Paid for the Brass Sport. Even my three daily carry, take anywhere and everywhere pens are not cheap. For years, they were the Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age, the Scribo Feel, and the Pilot Custom 823, which is fairly cheap.
Now, however, the 823 is gone and the Brass Sport has replaced it. I know how heavy the Brass Sport is, but when writing with it the weight just disappears. The shortness of the pen puts the weight down on the nib, and I can write with it for hours without even noticing that it's heavy.
Honestly, this pen isn't for everyone, and I hesitated buying it for years. It's small, it has a tiny nib, a tiny feed, and almost no ink capacity. It works better with cartridges, which I refill, than it does with the converter, and because of the tiny nib and feed it can go dry if you write too fast for too long, so what's to like? The Brass it's made of, and the beautiful patina, is what made me give it a try, and I love it to death. It was love at first write. I love it so much that I bought a second one and put a gold nib on it.
Many fountain pen owners are used to writing with lightweight pens, and won't know how to use a heavy pen that has the weight on the paper, rather than on the hand, so they won't like this pen for that reason, or because of the tiny ink capacity, or whatever, but I find writing with it almost addictive, and I use it just as often as I do any of my much more expensive pens.
Thanks for the input. Appreciate your experience as a user. I'm with you on the Brass Sport as others may be as well. It's not for everyone, but those that like a heavy but well balanced pen, it's a joy. The patina is a personal choice. Most time's I'll let mine go mellow gracefully, but like to start fresh every now and then. People who buy used brass pens may also want to start off fresh and let it patina from there on.
You may also like one of the Kara's Kustom metal pens as well. I have the INK V2 in copper and that one is one of my favorites. It patinas really well as long as you keep using it and gets a light to dark sheen on it. If I stop using it, it gets a dull oxidation on it and a few days of use will restore that personal patina to it. Some may not like the copper smell on your fingers, but it stops once it builds that oxidation layer.
In general, brass does not patina well
All the informations i needed in one video, thank you!
It's refreshing watching someone not obsessed with matching inks lol
Thank you for the kind words Marina. Glad you found it useful. As for inks, I like a variety of colours to use in a day, so its whatever I'm in the mood for to use with whatever pen I choose.
I have 2 of the Kaweco Brass Sport pens. I carry them and other pens in a Lihit Lab case that I got from Jet Pens. The Brass Sports write very well, and have become my go-to pens for journaling, and for work at the office. I am very satisfied with these pens, might buy one of the Steel Sport pens sometime later this year. Thanks for your wonderful review.
You can't go wrong with any of the metal Sports. Wonderful writers and built to last. Just be warned, the Steel sport is heavy, but if you like hefty pens, you'll love it.
Excellent comparison video! I have the Brass Sport and absolutely love it. I'm so happy that you used the Diamine Ancient Copper ink in the example. I was thinking about getting the cartridges; that is a nice-looking ink.
I have the Kaweco Brass Sport and I love it, however, after seeing the Namisu N2 in your case I went to their site and ordered one. So I guess I should thank you,..I had never seen the Namisu pens before and I love the look of the N2.
Do you prefer the brass sport or the n2? They both look amazing
@@phi1688 That is really a tough one. I would have to go with the N2. I actually really like the o-rings instead of the threads. The thing that I really favor though is that the N2 has a #6 nib and I have a lot of those to change the nib if I like. I currently have a .6 stub on it and I LOVE it with that nib. Namisu is based in Scotland,..and I don't think I own anything that is made in Scotland (assuming that is where it was made), so that adds a little "cool factor" for me as well. I have the Brass Sport and the Liliput, and you can't go wrong with either one of those for a pocket pen. I also think the N2 is a little bit better looking.
Thanks for all the details ❤
I thought you had a really good review, but were missing a key element. In comparing the different materials, I was hoping that you would also comment on how they felt in the hand and the balance and weight. I have several of the plastic Sports but am looking for something with a bit more heft and was curious about these metal ones.
Good point. The weight assessment feel can be a bit subjective. But I understand your point of view. I, personally like something with heft that feels bit more tactile. Others may find a heavy pen tiring for long sessions. All of them need to be used posted for comfort and a balanced feel, unless you have tiny hands.
Between the 3, for brass and steel are certainty considered very heavy. I like that for sketching and general doodling. The extra weight helps for smoother, fluid drawing strokes. The AL may strike a perfect compromise for long writing sessions for those that like a bit of weight and feel substantial compared to the plastic Sports. The ALs are my every day carry for mixed use (short notes, page long writes and drawing) and they get more use compared to the Plastic, brass or steel versions. From what you describe, I think you would be happy with an AL sport.
I have a question. Is it safe to refill the cartridges with the ink of your choice? My concern is about proper sealing when reusing the cartridges, so you don’t get ink leaking inside the pen.
Perfectly safe and sometimes a better option than the Kaweco mini converters since the converter holds so little ink. The material used in the cartridges is either a type of polyethylene or nylon, so it's pretty flexible and forgiving for friction fit. Maintenance is the key. Clean out the cartridge - I use a syringe to blast water to remove all ink. Completely let them air dry out. Refill with your choice of ink using a syringe. I've reused the same cartridge quite a few times (upwards of 10-15 fills). I don't recall the exact number of times but I have dozens of used cartridges that I don't throw out so grab a random one and fill as needed. Just keep an eye on any that have developed cracks on the barrel or may have started to split. I haven't come across any that are loose, but that is a possibility if you use the same one over and over. If cracked or loose, just toss them and use the next one. But test fit a dry cartridge before filling to make sure it fits fine and isn't loose to avoid and mishaps.
@@qvisionstudios very good information and advices. Thank you very much for sharing them with us. I will definitely try this and see how it goes.
what were those 2 pens under the piuma titanium?
What were the brands besides the kaweco in your case?
From the top: Ensso XS Minimalist in Copper and Aluminum. Delike Pocket in Black and Brass. Ensso Piuma Pocket Titanium. Namisu N1 Pocket in Titanium Rainbow and Steel Black.
Will the aluminum cap fit on the steel model?
Yes, all the caps, barrels and grip sections between the three are interchangeable. The caps will also fit the plastic Sports but not the grip/barrels.
@@qvisionstudios appreciate the reply! Thanks!
That pen case looks virtually identical in design to my Pelikan pen case from the 1990s. I wonder if they are made by the same company.
You never know. Could be made in the same factory with different branding. But it's a great fit for the Sports.
As far as I know, from heaviest lo lightest:
1. Bronze
2. Brass
3. Steel
4. Aluminum
5. Plastic
No. First is the Sterling.
@@Christian-t9o
Well, I ignored that the Kaweco Sport was also made of silver alloy at some point, that's why I did not include that material on my list. If so, then yes. Here below the chart...
AVERAGE DENSITIES:
• 925 Silver alloy (Ag + Cu +/or others): 10.30 g/cm³
• Bronze alloy (Cu + Sn): 8.90 g/cm³
• Brass alloy (Cu + Zn): 8.73 g/cm³
• Steel alloy (Fe + C + Cr + Ni + Mb +/or others): 7.85 g/cm³
• Aluminum (Al): 2.70 g/cm³
• Acrylic plastic: 1.19 g/cm³
How is it possible that the STEEL is heavier than the BRASS, when the brass is denser than any kind of stainless steel alloy?
Maybe you had the BRASS without cartridge / converter and the STEEL with it? Or the BRASS with an empty cartridge / converter and the STEEL with an inked one?
Great video.
Can i ask you something that is bother me.
I recently bought a kaveco sport bronze and i found tha the insignia at the cap is playing slightly when i put it on the pen.
It feels like it's a little loose.
Does any sport of yours does it ? Thanks in advance.
Thank You. Are you referring to the silver end finial at the top of the cap? That should be secure. You may be able to pop it off an epoxy it back on so you don't lose it.
The cap itself has a plastic liner inside (for Brass, Aluminum and Steel versions). If that is what you are talking about, it may be loose inside. I've heard some people have had that issue. Unfortunately, I never had to remove the liner before. All mine are secure and allow the pen to post securely without being loose. If I find out, I'll let you know how to fix it.
They actually make one out of BRONZE!
Brass actually. But if you have some spare change lying around, you can buy the Sterling Silver Sport for about $1800 USD! Might be their most expensive pen.
@@qvisionstudios I said bronze because I meant BRONZE..... I have a Brass model.......... however I had no idea they had a silver....and that is a RIDICULOUS price for that anyway!!
@@MikeG-js1jt Had to look it up. Only found one post in Reddit regarding the Bronze Sport. Waiting for an official release. Wonder why they went with Bronze when it's so close to looks to the Brass. What I'd really like is them to make a Copper Sport!
@@qvisionstudios Copper sport would REALLY make my day🤤
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen I think we should all petition to Kaweco to make it happen. Lot of people will but it.
You can polish a light patina off with a soft toothbrush and some toothpaste. ;)
Yes, but why would you?
Why would you buy a brass if you don't like the patina!? :O