Can you imagine the good fortune of owning a bar/liquor store in this town? Literally everyone that has even the most insignificant connection to this town is a raging alcoholic. Also, I now realize that the local accent is not sufficient to mask the epidemic of illiteracy. The facts of this case will never be clear, and the outcome will be based on who the judge and jury frequently drink with. I could never have imagined an entire community suffering the effects fetal alcohol syndrome.
Judge is obviously and openly favoring prosecutor, and the prosecutor knows it and is taking advantage of it with a barrage of objections to try and break rhythm of defense cross.
The judge is “Aunt Bev” to the Albert children. She isn’t for the prosecution as much as she is for the Albert family. She refused to recuse herself but yes, her biases is blatant.
@@kathycraig4600- Then why was she hysterically screaming the morning of January 29 but for some reason everybody else was calm? She was screaming so loud she could be heard above the sound of the wind during a blizzard inside of a police cruiser with the doors closed. It was all caught on dash cam. Kerry Roberts wasn’t hysterical. Jen McCabe, who had been his best friend for over 10 years, wasn’t hysteric. Only Karen Read.
After watching this trial for many days. The police did A terrible job investigating Johns death and they should Be ashamed of themselves If that was one of there family members they would have expected things to be done correctly following all proper procedure so they would be no issues at a later time. Obviously that was not done And they knew that at the time
Yup, I agree, it’s sickening and quite frankly scary!!! If this can happen to her if she is in fact innocent , it can happen to ANYONE!!! They talk about themselves as being a brotherhood but it’s pretty clear listening to this trial that Brian Albert was anything but that!!! If you were a COP and one of your SO CALLED BROTHERS IN BLUE was lying dead/dying on your front lawn how in the hell could you not BE BOTHERED to just WALK A FEW FEET OUT OF YOUR FRONT DOOR and find out what’s going on and howJohn was or if he could do anything to help..etc!!! NO ONE, not just a cop would do that unless your are a complete piece of shit and are guilty of doing something!!! ! I just hope they get this right so John and his family can get justice and the real people involved whether it’s Karen or not go to prison where they belong!!!
OFFICER O’Keefe. First RED FLAG was not one of them giving him the respect of his title. These MFs are supposed to be his ‘brothers in blue’, a neighbors and friendly acquaintances. Every single one is playing cover your ass.
Did anyone catch that the sister said she went out to the car and the bother said she peeped her head out the door for 34 seconds! Also how are they following Karen’s car into the neighborhood, but he never see John get out the car or sitting in it ! They never saw anybody get hit, because he never was hit outside of that house! 🤷🏽♀️
What bothers me is there are to many saying that they saw two ppl in the car at one point in front of the house and then all of the sudden there’s one and no that doesn’t mean she killed or ran over him, but she’s the only person that knows what happened to him, because he didn’t go inside the house. This woman practically lived with this man finds out he’s dead and goes and packs her belongings in the house and leaves. The brother said; she didn’t even interact with him, the family, etc… I’m sorry but that blows my mind and shows guilt and definitely knows what happened to him and I just want to know what happened to this poor man that served his community and took over his niece and nephew without hesitation and l feel she knows more about something than she’s telling. 🤷♀️either lol
@terrybunsey8015 ok let's say you're right hypothetically, but why would the alberts and mccabes need to delete msg/calls, lie, break the light in police compound (light was complete when entering, pics will show) ,,, who knows what was said by anyone after it happened, his family think she did it, and as for packing her belongings she was admitted to hospital that morning so I think that's probably false
This judge is ridiculous. If an appeal is necessary, she is making it easy! Justice for Karen. I’ve never witnessed a more pathetic police response than this case. A leaf blower? Brings dense to another level.
@@Colbzz justice for John would include finding the person who killed him and not trying to frame an innocent woman. You sound troubled, take care of yourself.
This prosecutor is SO POOR that witnesses have to ask him repeatedly to rephrase the question. And he mumbles, so all witnesses can’t even hear him. He rambles, mumbles, and drops his voice after each word. OMG! He’s terrible!
he also asks the same questions over and over, and asks completely unnecessary bullshit like "what color was the dog you and your friends helped return to the owner?" like holy shit this has nothing to do with anything move on!!! the judge has asked several times to speed things up
@@Kallie4378 its like he's playing a game of how can I phrase my question in the most exhaustive, excessive fashion so that this trial takes as long as humanly possible? the jurys been deliberating for days and I really think its because of lally's nonsense questioning and overload of information
Canton is a town that is made up entirely of the exact same persona… Its pretty astonishing for 1 town to be so collectively classless but they do it and do it well
Why is Paul Albert and his wife in the courtroom ? They will inform the others members of the family what is going on. Paul looks like he has high on himself (PUKE) boot them out
Karen is really looking stressed and has lost a lot of weight. I can't imagine losing a boyfriend and then going through this. That family and "friends" shoild pack it up and move to Ohio. It is ridiculous what is happening.
No those families need to be arrested and prosecuted. Judge too They have killed people before and played these games of blaming other people. They messed up picking Karen Read. Her attorneys are doing great at exposing them
@@kelliegrase4658 You mean simple minded. By now, she knows when O Keefe arrived at the house. She IS Jen Mcabe's daughter after all. She knows that O Keefe arrived at the Alberts at 1230 ish. She KNOWS that she picked up Colin Albert 12:12. Therefore, she KNOWS, like all reasonable people, that Colin Albert left BEFORE O Keefe arrived. When she says that she knows when O Keefe got "there", she means AT and NOT inside the Albert residence. Yet another example of drawing silly, sinister inferences by the Karen Read cult.
Yoooooooo did anyone else catch the Ali Say “ Colin wasn’t there when John was ….. 🤦🏽♂️ everyone said he wasn’t there except a blob right .. but she said that and they didn’t see him in the car so … only place he could have been was in the house .. 🏠 I hope the defense got that .
That judge needs to be dismissed immediately. She is a cause of concern due to her brothers involvement of representation for the Alberts family. She knows to much of the families involved. That is a CAUSE OF CONFLICT 🤨😠
I haven't followed this case but I have noticed that the prosecutor will say "objection" and never states the basis of his objection. I've never seen that before. Every case I've seen, the judge will require a basis but not this judge.
Commonwealth doesn’t require the attorney to state the reason. It’s very frustrating!!! They have a lot of odd laws and legal quirks dating back from the colonial days that are still used present day. It really made this case frustrating, especially when the prosecution was clearly taking advantage of objections
@@SashaMalinina Commonwealth is a pompous way to say state, there is NO legal distinction between a 'commonwealth' and a state in the USA. The reason the prosecutor doesn't have to state the reason for an objection is because Auntie Bev says so.
@@Nasdaqbaby There you have it. You have seen a photograph of O Keefe, never examined the wounds up close, have been bitten once before and now feel confident to declare that the wounds were inflicted by a dog. Maybe they should call YOU as an expert
I thought the same thing. At first I thought there was a big accumulation of snow at that time of night/morning, but by all the testimony it was barely accumulated on the grass.
But when they found him there was loadsa snow n he was lien on top of it.n his phone n the 25 pieces of tale light.doesnt mke sense...she apparently huts him with car in the face..he flies bkwards 12ft they say in the air n lands in the snow..pukes ..all over himself even on his boxers inside his trousers.had dog bites on his arms.they find pig traces in the furrows /cuts in his arms..aren't dog pig ear treats made from pigs..no clothes wer put unto evidence for mnths kept in cop cruiser.his shoe was nvr found n dog us Nowhere to be seen.strange
Wasn’t everyone testifying he was drinking beer? Thats not usually served in a whisky tumbler glass and comes in a bottle- I’m kinda shocked they didn’t catch that
Why does he say objection with no reason it’s supposed to be hearsay, leading, etc. and she sustains everything for the defense and not Mr. Haylee, Mr. Lali and I can see her signaling prosecutor putting her hand on her face etc. Brian, Albert must’ve been the worst cop and beat up many people as he is such an ass
So I’m a lawyer so not just talking. If she ran him over by accident while drunk it’s manslaughter. Obviously she didn’t do it on purpose. But I don’t think they have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she ran him over at all as opposed to someone else.
If your are a lawyer, you have to agree, that all these people getting new phones, butt dials in the middle of the night,selling the house, Jake hammering the basement concrete, all seems a little strange.
I cannot beleive the way these so called friends of Karen treated her that morning as she was in a crisis and trying desperately to figure out what happened to John.. they called her crazy and told her to shut up several times! Shameful!
When a woman is hysterical and running around screaming you have to be FIRM with her Remember she started out screaming on the phone to Jen out of a dead sleep then shows up still screaming and screams all the way over to Alberts Then keeps acting erratic all over crime scene After awhile it almost looked like an act Even if she was my sister after all that I probably would have told her to hush and get it together
This judge will sustain anything for prosecution for objection but never except 1 time has sustained for defense. She is one sided, hence she should not be on the bench
Beg to differ with you. Yes, police did a crummy job! Fact remaining, Karen should be charged with manslaughter for accidentally backing over John. The man NEVER went into the house. Not only that, if I’m coming out of a house at night after a party. I wouldn’t be looking around the yard as I walk out. Karen will be acquitted. Only because she has those state of the art attorneys.
@@barbaramorgan5992Never mind the fact that the victim only had injuries to his face, back of head & dog wounds on arm & looked like he had the hell beat out of him, not hit by a 5,000 lb suv or how Collin Albert had injuries on his right knuckles & is known to want to fight when he is drunk or how every single person in the house never mentioned Collin Albert ever being in the house, or how the owner of the house “an Albert, had his basement dug up & repoured immediately after the killing, or how he sold his house for $50,000 less than market value just as soon as his basement was dug up, or how he immediately gave the dog away & the new owners then had dog put down or even never mind the fact that the home owners sister searched “how long does it take to die in the cold” at 2:27am an entire 3 + hours before johns body was ever found. Oh & lets not forget how the judge is called “Auntie Bev” by the Albert children & refused to recuse herself. So yeah, thankfully Karen could afford the best attorneys to fight for the truth to save her life but the evidence clearly shows another story here & bcz her attorneys are that good, they are able to bring the truth to light.
Does rephrase mean repeat in Boston??? I’ve never heard so many people say rephrase the question when they either didn’t hear or understand a question. Not one person out of 25 have said can you repeat the question, not one.
What is the judge's name. She needs to go. I believe it would be great to have a fresh JUDGE on this court case. Someone who knows nothing about this case and comes in with fresh eyes 👀 and ears👂. And someone who is not bias.
It’s similar to what a professional baseball team from Texas did years ago to cheat and win a World Series. Instead of a cough……the ball team used a louder knocking sound before pitches.
@@marshapieroni6677 Maybe they think adding "absolutely", "rephrase", "correct" makes them sound more believable and intellectual. In my opinion it's too much. I agree, a simple yes or no, is often all the answer that is needed.
Why do they continue to show the house with a foot of snow??? The time JO arrived it had just started snowing?!!!! This is a false depiction of the scene?!!!
Yea… we just drive aimlessly rescuing puppies all night… that’s what normal high school seniors who are besties with Colin do. Sure there an underage drinking party next door at the Albert’s, with my bestie…and my hockey team, I don’t like alcohol or dudes or my friends, I like to aimlessly explore this metropolis called canton. Yep that’s my testimony.
They all are! They all think they are above and smarter than the defense lawyers. It is really ridiculous these are young adults that talk like this to people. ENTITLED GROUP OF LIAR'S
I don’t blame the friends for saying I don’t remember. They don’t wanna cover for this family .. that girls boyfriend kept saying Sorry I’m not gonna make up a time.. seems to me he was saying I’m not gonna make up times like everyone else.. Also two days ago the state police put Trooper proctor under internal investigation because of this case … what do they know. I bet soon one of those kids will flip when the defense call in their witnesses and professionals and really hit home with the case . These kids don’t wanna be federally charged. So I bet this happens and they will get immunity and Albert’s and Mcabes will go to jail
Most trials are boring to watch but this prosecutor has already established that John O'Keefe never went inside the house and Colin Albert left the house. The forensic evidence will prove that Karen Read's vehicle caused all of John's injuries
We all know she favours the Prosecution side. How well does she know the prosecutor or even better how well does she know the two families involved or does she know someone that is a friend of these two families involved. If so that would mean she is in cohorts with a corrupt case.
Oh, she knows them very well. Chris Albert was involved in a DUI hit-and-run when he was 22 years old. That is the brother of Brian Albert, Kevin Albert,(Canton PD)and the father of Colin Albert. Judge Bev’s BROTHER was Chris Albert’s lawyer. Chris Albert only served six months for killing a man with this car and fleeing the scene.
If Karen’s car was facing Chapman St and she back into him he would not be on the left side of the lawn. He would be more to the middle right of the flagpole
Well, she certainly is for the prosecution. I don’t know anything at all whatsoever about DNA, but I could tell you if it dropped on the floor and it wasn’t packaged correctly. It could be contaminated!
Karen Read could not have taken off John's clothes and set him in the snow. Just the fact that his clothes and a shoe is missing tells me someone cleaned up got rid of evidence. They need to focus on that for real. #FreeKarenRead
You ain’t kidding. This is beginning to resemble a story of mass alcoholism. I would think it’s common for more than one alcoholic to hang out together and consume alcohol. Here, it’s like an entire group of alcoholics with their police friends to take care of any DUIs. This is just crazy. This whole case is riddled with alcohol and it smells like a fart. Not Guilty!!
I also feel that the judge is favouring the prosecutor, she keeps interfering and interrupting at points which seem to leading somewhere. It’s is starting to annoy me!
This Nagel guy clearly does not want to answer the defense questions and he clearly saw Karen Read alone in her suv. Nagels girlfriend also said Karen was in the suv by herself! JO went in the house! Also its very annoying how Lally objects before the defense can even get their question out!!!
But there is a reason she wanted to stay .... why would you call and ask someone to come pick you up ... and once they got there change your mind ... with the WEATHER getting bad ...
They all are!!! They answer the same way. If you made a statement my favorite shit is blue it’s the one I wore yesterday. And I asked did you make the statement this is your favorite blue shit they’d say no because their statement included that they wore it yesterday so no that’s not my statement and this is exactly the answering that Brian Albert preformed! The first sentence of a statement he made in front of the grand jury completely contradicted the second sentence in his statement and yet because he asked him if he made the first statement, he said no because that was not the statement he made in its entirety. His statement was that he had never laid eyes on, nor ever spoke to care in a day in his life yet he did say that, but the second sentence stated that he may have said one or two sentences to her. When defense asked him if he had stated that he never seen her a day in his life, nor spoke to her he said no, because he actually said that he may have said a sentence or two to her right after that sentence tell me how manipulating and twisting that is it makes my brain hurt to even think of having a conversation with that guy monster bad cop he spent 30 years torturing people fall asleep, charging, and covering up their lies
It’s interesting that Julies N Brother said He received a text at Hillside from Julie saying that She needs a ride but didn’t Her time on The stand She said Matt McCabe and His Wife driven Her Home.
The way I understood her testimony was that she needed a ride home, but when he got there she wanted them to come in and they wanted to go home, so she stayed. That is when the McCabes took her and her friend home. Why wouldn’t she just have taken that ride, as I understood she left with the McCabes very soon after.
@@nuorigin I have question to ask John’s cause of death is Hypothermia not only it was that but blunt force head trauma. I don’t believe no body could persuade Me to think that Karen ran Her car over Him because She to Me was quite stable enough to drive despite the fact She hit Her tail light and because did Mr. O’Keefe have any tire marks on His body or clothes?. To me I don’t know if I’m right that tire marks would leave traces across His body but if I’m correct than He wasn’t ran over. Mr O’Keefe was possibly had gone into The house believing that He would be welcomed until He gotten upset and that’s when Brian Albert started boxing with Him therefore The dog was loose and went mental, had him at his arm and than someone right behind Him came over to to hit Him in the head with a baseball bat or some other object cause blunt force head trauma.
Ryan nagle and the other two people went to pick up ryans sister but she changed her mind, im thinking jen mccabe needed to talk to her personally, as jen ended up taking herbhome.. these thre individuals told the truth.
I hope this opens everyone’s eyes up from now on when a person is convicted of a crime because we can all clearly see what’s going on in this trial!! in the past, people would say well I convicted him because they were two witnesses and they had no reason to lie! Now we all know that these kids are saying whatever the prosecutor told them to during their many long preps. I believe there were whether they put it on the books or not
In my opinion and experience with kids this age, I don’t believe that any of them were drinking beer. I believe they were all drinking hard liquor and they were told that they were drinking beer. Why did he feel the need to say beer that’s what I always drink. And I’ll say it again if someone checks their Uber app I guarantee these kids always take Ubers before and after and on this rare occasion, they all got picked up from the Albert home by someone very close to them because they can’t control the narrative of an Uber driver not to mention multiple Uber drivers
@@debranagrocki4952. They weren’t even questioned about the night of the incident for at least 18 months?! They had to be coached by the CW attorney?! 😢
Seems like the State of Massachusetts and the prosecution are desperate. These are the worst witnesses ever. Talk about grasping at straws. Mr. Lally has got to be the worst Prosecutor ever.
@@tobydean709719 months later their being interviewed. Wouldn't that have blown a casket. Cmon somebody these are youngsters, they could have cared less. Agree they were coached.
Karen Read is innocent 💞💞a big cover-up …it’s a shame they can’t track down Chloe the dog funny how they got rid of Chloe. weeks after John‘s death and can’t remember who they gave her too fishy to me… Kim🇬🇧
Allison admitted that Colin wasn't there when John was there he had left. This was a slip of the tongue from her and she caught herself as she was continuing to speak and was about to repeat it... Then you can see the oops moment in her face. I just wondered if the defense attorneys caught it! I DON'T THINK THEY DID! I did, replay her testimony you'll hear it!!! Listener!!
No, bring out the incompetence of the prosecution. All their evidence is garbage. With all the alcohol consumed through the day and into the evening…..I find it hard to believe that any of those alcoholics can remember what they did and said. This case is riddled with people under the influence of alcohol and it stinks like a big fart.
Interesting how Mr Nagler didn’t remember it was Proctor….like whaaaat? He’s the main detective culprit of the coverup. He must have known it was Proctor.
Well how would it look for these outstanding citizens look had they said, things got out of hand and a police officer died?. This would tarnish their reputation.
The Albert family children, including Collin Albert, call the judge “Auntie Bev”. She has a long standing personal relationship to this entire family & refused to recuse herself when the judge was outed for having a personal relationship. Just imagine how many more innocent people have been sent to prison for crimes they did not commit. Thankfully Karen had the money to buy the best legal defense money could buy. Jackson is the absolute best at impeaching a witness & in general an outstanding attorney. Karens entire team is top notch!!
Who TF keeps coughing?! Go get some damn water!
Sometimes water doesn’t help that much if a cough is bad enough
Or if it's a nervous cough@@AmyPigula
Idk but this guy’s ex girlfriend keeps making stupid noises with her mouth every time she starts to speak. Sooooooo obnoxious 🤬🤣
@@thedaily30omg now that you mention it I can’t not hear it!
Every single trial. It’s like they wait to get in the room to start coughing and setting everyone else off. Drives me crazy!
Too bad they couldn’t find the dog. She probably still has traces of John O’Keefe’s DNA under her claws.
They gave the dog away & then the dog was put down.
Two and a half years later you think they're still going to be dna? 🙄
Cloee the dog did not like strangers🤔🤔🤔 and the Alberts got rid of her after she bit two women and a dog👀👀
@@astrialindah2773 DNA doesn’t fade. Years later they test evidence.
@@Nunya-t4b depends on the environment....
Great case for don't drink and drive.
Can you imagine the good fortune of owning a bar/liquor store in this town? Literally everyone that has even the most insignificant connection to this town is a raging alcoholic. Also, I now realize that the local accent is not sufficient to mask the epidemic of illiteracy. The facts of this case will never be clear, and the outcome will be based on who the judge and jury frequently drink with. I could never have imagined an entire community suffering the effects fetal alcohol syndrome.
sometimes I lose focus Karen is on trial when I hear these testimonies - BTW I suspect Higgins lost his pension/job
His lawyer came in the courtroom and stood next to him at the end of his testimony?! Bizarre?!!! 😮😅😅
She lied she cried ‘’Colin wasn’t there when John was ‘ she said it
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So JO'K did make it into the house and wasn't hurt then? Hmmmm
BINGO!
who?
Colin wasn't in the house when John was there.
Judge is obviously and openly favoring prosecutor, and the prosecutor knows it and is taking advantage of it with a barrage of objections to try and break rhythm of defense cross.
The judge is “Aunt Bev” to the Albert children. She isn’t for the prosecution as much as she is for the Albert family. She refused to recuse herself but yes, her biases is blatant.
I dont think Karen has any feelings
@@kathycraig4600- Then why was she hysterically screaming the morning of January 29 but for some reason everybody else was calm? She was screaming so loud she could be heard above the sound of the wind during a blizzard inside of a police cruiser with the doors closed. It was all caught on dash cam. Kerry Roberts wasn’t hysterical. Jen McCabe, who had been his best friend for over 10 years, wasn’t hysteric. Only Karen Read.
Every time!
Breaking for lunch during questioning. Why does judge interfere
After watching this trial for many days. The police did
A terrible job investigating
Johns death and they should
Be ashamed of themselves
If that was one of there family members they would have expected things to be done correctly following all proper procedure so they would be no issues at a later time.
Obviously that was not done
And they knew that at the time
They did zero investigating and a frame job instead.
Yup, I agree, it’s sickening and quite frankly scary!!! If this can happen to her if she is in fact innocent , it can happen to ANYONE!!! They talk about themselves as being a brotherhood but it’s pretty clear listening to this trial that Brian Albert was anything but that!!! If you were a COP and one of your SO CALLED BROTHERS IN BLUE was lying dead/dying on your front lawn how in the hell could you not BE BOTHERED to just WALK A FEW FEET OUT OF YOUR FRONT DOOR and find out what’s going on and howJohn was or if he could do anything to help..etc!!! NO ONE, not just a cop would do that unless your are a complete piece of shit and are guilty of doing something!!! ! I just hope they get this right so John and his family can get justice and the real people involved whether it’s Karen or not go to prison where they belong!!!
INTENTIONALLY did a horrible job to protect the Albert's
OFFICER O’Keefe. First RED FLAG was not one of them giving him the respect of his title. These MFs are supposed to be his ‘brothers in blue’, a neighbors and friendly acquaintances. Every single one is playing cover your ass.
Did anyone catch that the sister said she went out to the car and the bother said she peeped her head out the door for 34 seconds! Also how are they following Karen’s car into the neighborhood, but he never see John get out the car or sitting in it ! They never saw anybody get hit, because he never was hit outside of that house! 🤷🏽♀️
Today was mind boggling with the children .. umm I don't remember...
Yep this is ridiculous
What bothers me is there are to many saying that they saw two ppl in the car at one point in front of the house and then all of the sudden there’s one and no that doesn’t mean she killed or ran over him, but she’s the only person that knows what happened to him, because he didn’t go inside the house. This woman practically lived with this man finds out he’s dead and goes and packs her belongings in the house and leaves. The brother said; she didn’t even interact with him, the family, etc… I’m sorry but that blows my mind and shows guilt and definitely knows what happened to him and I just want to know what happened to this poor man that served his community and took over his niece and nephew without hesitation and l feel she knows more about something than she’s telling. 🤷♀️either lol
@terrybunsey8015 ok let's say you're right hypothetically, but why would the alberts and mccabes need to delete msg/calls, lie, break the light in police compound (light was complete when entering, pics will show) ,,, who knows what was said by anyone after it happened, his family think she did it, and as for packing her belongings she was admitted to hospital that morning so I think that's probably false
I agree. This girl is innocent. They need to look closer at the Albert family and stop the cover-up
This judge is ridiculous. If an appeal is necessary, she is making it easy! Justice for Karen. I’ve never witnessed a more pathetic police response than this case. A leaf blower? Brings dense to another level.
Don’t forget the Red Solo Cups, and the Stop & Shop paper grocery bag to collect evidence.🤡🤡
Justice for Karen? How about justice for JOHN, the victim. Jeez people nowadays are riddled with mental illness, I pray you get help!
@@Colbzz justice for John would include finding the person who killed him and not trying to frame an innocent woman. You sound troubled, take care of yourself.
@@ravenzyblack crazy situation.
They're brain dead.
This prosecutor is SO POOR that witnesses have to ask him repeatedly to rephrase the question. And he mumbles, so all witnesses can’t even hear him. He rambles, mumbles, and drops his voice after each word. OMG!
He’s terrible!
he also asks the same questions over and over, and asks completely unnecessary bullshit like "what color was the dog you and your friends helped return to the owner?" like holy shit this has nothing to do with anything move on!!! the judge has asked several times to speed things up
@@amanda-et6pv no shit..right!! He actually asked the girl how she characterized the two people in the suv as male and female! Like what….
@@Kallie4378 its like he's playing a game of how can I phrase my question in the most exhaustive, excessive fashion so that this trial takes as long as humanly possible? the jurys been deliberating for days and I really think its because of lally's nonsense questioning and overload of information
They must have the highest in DUIs in Massachusetts. It seems everyone drinks and drives.
Not when you know everyone in the police department
They DO!!!
It is pretty bad...
You never heard of WI? Lol everyone has at least one
Canton is a town that is made up entirely of the exact same persona… Its pretty astonishing for 1 town to be so collectively classless but they do it and do it well
Why is Paul Albert and his wife in the courtroom ? They will inform the others members of the family what is going on. Paul looks like he has high on himself (PUKE) boot them out
Can't they just watch online anyway?
Karen is really looking stressed and has lost a lot of weight.
I can't imagine losing a boyfriend and then going through this.
That family and "friends" shoild pack it up and move to Ohio.
It is ridiculous what is happening.
She looks really haggard.
No those families need to be arrested and prosecuted. Judge too
They have killed people before and played these games of blaming other people.
They messed up picking Karen Read. Her attorneys are doing great at exposing them
Ohio doesn't want them!!!
@@hildabeaverhausen3944 understand!!! 😂
We have enough of our own craziness 😂😂
Ali mc , "Colin wasn't there when John was" , talk about digging a hole for yourself 😂
And from this you conclude what? What a silly thing to focus on.
@milart12 everyone said John was there, are you that stupid
Silly? John was in the house… very simple
@@kelliegrase4658 ty
@@kelliegrase4658 You mean simple minded. By now, she knows when O Keefe arrived at the house. She IS Jen Mcabe's daughter after all. She knows that O Keefe arrived at the Alberts at 1230 ish. She KNOWS that she picked up Colin Albert 12:12. Therefore, she KNOWS, like all reasonable people, that Colin Albert left BEFORE O Keefe arrived. When she says that she knows when O Keefe got "there", she means AT and NOT inside the Albert residence. Yet another example of drawing silly, sinister inferences by the Karen Read cult.
Yoooooooo did anyone else catch the Ali Say “ Colin wasn’t there when John was ….. 🤦🏽♂️ everyone said he wasn’t there except a blob right .. but she said that and they didn’t see him in the car so … only place he could have been was in the house .. 🏠 I hope the defense got that .
Timestamp?
That judge needs to be dismissed immediately. She is a cause of concern due to her brothers involvement of representation for the Alberts family. She knows to much of the families involved. That is a CAUSE OF CONFLICT 🤨😠
Conflict of interest bigtime
I haven't followed this case but I have noticed that the prosecutor will say "objection" and never states the basis of his objection. I've never seen that before. Every case I've seen, the judge will require a basis but not this judge.
Exactly like Wtf
The judge doesn't want the reasons for the objection stated
Commonwealth doesn’t require the attorney to state the reason. It’s very frustrating!!! They have a lot of odd laws and legal quirks dating back from the colonial days that are still used present day. It really made this case frustrating, especially when the prosecution was clearly taking advantage of objections
And a lot of times he says it before AJ is even done with his sentence…
@@SashaMalinina Commonwealth is a pompous way to say state, there is NO legal distinction between a 'commonwealth' and a state in the USA. The reason the prosecutor doesn't have to state the reason for an objection is because Auntie Bev says so.
Why did julie call for a ride just to not leave? That is crazy!
right I would be pissed if they called me over there to say "nvm im gonna stay" like what
@@amanda-et6pv I know definitely something wrong with that picture.
Drugs?
I noticed the same thing. That is very suspicious!
@@amanda-et6pv too much action to see.
Those are dog bites on his arm who doesn’t know this wtf
german shepherd in particular, bite
How do you know that these are dog bites?
@@Nasdaqbaby How do you know that they are German Shepherd dog bites?
@@milart12 cuz i've been bite by one
@@Nasdaqbaby There you have it. You have seen a photograph of O Keefe, never examined the wounds up close, have been bitten once before and now feel confident to declare that the wounds were inflicted by a dog. Maybe they should call YOU as an expert
Doesn't anyone take an uber after drinking
Apparently not! Daddy will take care of it. He's a cop.
@@phelanator5784 not any more....
I was wondering the same thing…very irresponsible.
Right!? I think they all lived in close proximity of the bars.
Really! They should all have gone to jail!!
How could O’Keefe and the glass be propped up on the snow when the snow just started to fall and there was minimal accumulation.
I thought the same thing. At first I thought there was a big accumulation of snow at that time of night/morning, but by all the testimony it was barely accumulated on the grass.
But when they found him there was loadsa snow n he was lien on top of it.n his phone n the 25 pieces of tale light.doesnt mke sense...she apparently huts him with car in the face..he flies bkwards 12ft they say in the air n lands in the snow..pukes ..all over himself even on his boxers inside his trousers.had dog bites on his arms.they find pig traces in the furrows /cuts in his arms..aren't dog pig ear treats made from pigs..no clothes wer put unto evidence for mnths kept in cop cruiser.his shoe was nvr found n dog us Nowhere to be seen.strange
Also his phone ?!
Wasn’t everyone testifying he was drinking beer? Thats not usually served in a whisky tumbler glass and comes in a bottle- I’m kinda shocked they didn’t catch that
Why does he say objection with no reason it’s supposed to be hearsay, leading, etc. and she sustains everything for the defense and not Mr. Haylee, Mr. Lali and I can see her signaling prosecutor putting her hand on her face etc. Brian, Albert must’ve been the worst cop and beat up many people as he is such an ass
I don't understand how she is supposed to know what he's objecting to. Anytime defense gets his momentum going she calls sidebar
The judge says they don’t have to say , she established that at the beginning
What's up with brothes chauffeuring sisters all over the place....????acting like bodyguards 😆
Yes shame that it's needed but it is.
Very gallant of them, actually. Nice to know that chivalry isn't dead!
Sister says she needs a ride home, they come to pick her up, then she stays. Why did she call for a ride then? Odd stuff going on here.
So I’m a lawyer so not just talking. If she ran him over by accident while drunk it’s manslaughter. Obviously she didn’t do it on purpose. But I don’t think they have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she ran him over at all as opposed to someone else.
His wounds are not from being hit by a car. He has two black eyes, a gash on the top of his end, and his right arm is slashed and bit up.
If your are a lawyer, you have to agree, that all these people getting new phones, butt dials in the middle of the night,selling the house, Jake hammering the basement concrete, all seems a little strange.
They should definitely,change this very obvious(bias,sighing)Judge;)*!!!
I cannot beleive the way these so called friends of Karen treated her that morning as she was in a crisis and trying desperately to figure out what happened to John.. they called her crazy and told her to shut up several times! Shameful!
When a woman is hysterical and running around screaming you have to be FIRM with her Remember she started out screaming on the phone to Jen out of a dead sleep then shows up still screaming and screams all the way over to Alberts Then keeps acting erratic all over crime scene After awhile it almost looked like an act Even if she was my sister after all that I probably would have told her to hush and get it together
This judge will sustain anything for prosecution for objection but never except 1 time has sustained for defense.
She is one sided, hence she should not be on the bench
She is Auntie Bev. Surprised?
Beg to differ with you. Yes, police did a crummy job! Fact remaining, Karen should be charged with manslaughter for accidentally backing over John. The man NEVER went into the house. Not only that, if I’m coming out of a house at night after a party. I wouldn’t be looking around the yard as I walk out. Karen will be acquitted. Only because she has those state of the art attorneys.
@@Nunya-t4b nope but she is starting to see the light. I bet she really wished she recused herself now! 😂
@@barbaramorgan5992 😊
@@barbaramorgan5992Never mind the fact that the victim only had injuries to his face, back of head & dog wounds on arm & looked like he had the hell beat out of him, not hit by a 5,000 lb suv or how Collin Albert had injuries on his right knuckles & is known to want to fight when he is drunk or how every single person in the house never mentioned Collin Albert ever being in the house, or how the owner of the house “an Albert, had his basement dug up & repoured immediately after the killing, or how he sold his house for $50,000 less than market value just as soon as his basement was dug up, or how he immediately gave the dog away & the new owners then had dog put down or even never mind the fact that the home owners sister searched “how long does it take to die in the cold” at 2:27am an entire 3 + hours before johns body was ever found. Oh & lets not forget how the judge is called “Auntie Bev” by the Albert children & refused to recuse herself. So yeah, thankfully Karen could afford the best attorneys to fight for the truth to save her life but the evidence clearly shows another story here & bcz her attorneys are that good, they are able to bring the truth to light.
You can’t even hear the attorney speaking who the hell is monitoring this courtroom, video cameras, and audio?
Take a chill pill. Turn up the volume!
Boy I tell you what if the defense did this the “judge” would fix them
@@kathleenhebert7757we have you’re wrong I have to connect a Bluetooth speaker just to hear him
@@kathleenhebert7757 I think there’s enough intoxicated people to deal with this case I don’t think she needs to take any kind of pill
@@kathleenhebert7757 the volume is up and all you can hear is the witness stocking not the goddamn attorney so little troll put your volume down
Does rephrase mean repeat in Boston??? I’ve never heard so many people say rephrase the question when they either didn’t hear or understand a question. Not one person out of 25 have said can you repeat the question, not one.
Persecution witnesses have been professionally coached...not they all say "absolutely not"
Not =note
I think asking to rephrase allows a witness to better understand or allows them more time to think of how to answer.
I noticed that too! It's so weird
Nope it was can you rephrase that question?
What is the judge's name. She needs to go. I believe it would be great to have a fresh JUDGE on this court case.
Someone who knows nothing about this case and comes in with fresh eyes 👀 and ears👂. And someone who is not bias.
She can’t remember what kind of beer she drank but knows she passed a suv with a Caucasian women driving
😂😅 and ask me what I drank yesterday, and I wouldn't know.
Pretty sure this proves John went into the house...
This is the most boring trial ever !
Not The Most...but definitely in the top tier of B🥱RING!
Omg the little dry mouth click Heather makes before she speaks everytime is so ANNOYING! Lmao
Did you guys notice that someone in the court room is coughing everytime the defense is asking KEY questions 🤔🤔🤔🤔
It’s similar to what a professional baseball team from Texas did years ago to cheat and win a World Series. Instead of a cough……the ball team used a louder knocking sound before pitches.
So true, I hope the defense picks up on it as well.
The person coughing is a defense lawyer
@@doreenmills4487😂😂😂
I think someone has a cold during allergy season
Absolutely not. Can you REPHRASE? (Not repeat?) correct•Correct•CORRECT...
Prosecution wirhesses are soooo coached! CORRECT✓
I don't know what happened to a simple yes or no
@@marshapieroni6677 Maybe they think adding "absolutely", "rephrase", "correct" makes them sound more believable and intellectual. In my opinion it's too much. I agree, a simple yes or no, is often all the answer that is needed.
Why do they continue to show the house with a foot of snow??? The time JO arrived it had just started snowing?!!!! This is a false depiction of the scene?!!!
Excellent point!
Right!
Did John body have any unknown DNA on him?
Did they take dna samples?
Watch the trial on repeat.
I dunno, been catching the trial at different points. There was one clip where an independent report by the FBI or something exonerated Karen Read.
Alli is redder than a Maine lobster. Or is it lobsta. I was driving a Ford Fusion or maybe a Confusion?
👏😅‼️👏😂‼️👏🤣‼️
Yea… we just drive aimlessly rescuing puppies all night… that’s what normal high school seniors who are besties with Colin do. Sure there an underage drinking party next door at the Albert’s, with my bestie…and my hockey team, I don’t like alcohol or dudes or my friends, I like to aimlessly explore this metropolis called canton. Yep that’s my testimony.
Hilarious commentary
😂😂😂😂!!! For real???? Kids go to college just to party!!!!
Witness is snarky ❤
They all are! They all think they are above and smarter than the defense lawyers. It is really ridiculous these are young adults that talk like this to people.
ENTITLED GROUP OF LIAR'S
I don’t blame the friends for saying I don’t remember. They don’t wanna cover for this family .. that girls boyfriend kept saying Sorry I’m not gonna make up a time.. seems to me he was saying I’m not gonna make up times like everyone else.. Also two days ago the state police put Trooper proctor under internal investigation because of this case … what do they know.
I bet soon one of those kids will flip when the defense call in their witnesses and professionals and really hit home with the case . These kids don’t wanna be federally charged. So I bet this happens and they will get immunity and Albert’s and Mcabes will go to jail
I dont remember or i dont recall is a way of not answering without necessarily lying or perjury
So when the judge wants a side bar, which is almost EVERYTIME a prosecutions whitness leaves the stand why tbe fuck ?
Mini🍷🥃 Bar 🍺🍸
Under 🍾 her 🍻 bench!
🚨🚨 ← Red Solo Cups!
This random missing dog story random and confirmatiin on Colin def drinking , hmmm
This prosecutor so boring n doing terrible job
Most trials are boring to watch but this prosecutor has already established that John O'Keefe never went inside the house and Colin Albert left the house. The forensic evidence will prove that Karen Read's vehicle caused all of John's injuries
When is Yannanti going give the judge the list of people bribed by Alberts and her name on list like Untouchables
The problem is that he is fighting against the Truth and very good Attorneys.
@@bethmccrae2714I’m admittedly behind but how did he prove he never went in the house?
Karen is 100% factually innocent! Who if ANYONE is paying for this SHAM! We the taxpayers of MASSACHUSETTS! Insanity! 🤡🤡🤡
Who is paying you to post this crap?
According to Higgins and Bruan Albert Higgins white jeep stoot at the post box🤷🏻
These kids aren’t street smart enough to keep their mouths shut for 2 years if they’re guilty or know info to incriminate someone else
They are if their father might go to prison.
Where was the plow truck outback? ThatHiggins was driving?
I’m wondering the same! Both Higgins and Jen McCabe claim the jeep wasn’t in the driveway but right beside the mailbox.
I can’t believe they deleted all the ring videos
Unbelievable?! Even the cop who lived across the street got rid of his video footage!!!!! 😮
@@tobydean7097 they are evil. Despicable humans!
We all know she favours the Prosecution side. How well does she know the prosecutor or even better how well does she know the two families involved or does she know someone that is a friend of these two families involved.
If so that would mean she is in cohorts with a corrupt case.
Oh, she knows them very well. Chris Albert was involved in a DUI hit-and-run when he was 22 years old. That is the brother of Brian Albert, Kevin Albert,(Canton PD)and the father of Colin Albert. Judge Bev’s BROTHER was Chris Albert’s lawyer. Chris Albert only served six months for killing a man with this car and fleeing the scene.
Apparently they asked her to recuse but she refused.
I guess Karen read is innocent. I thought she was guilty of manslaughter before I listened to more of the trial.
If I were west of this town and I needed to go to the town East I’d go all the way around. They are t pulling me over
@AshleyMarieMommy, lmfao, I know right!!!!!
She is not an expert boot her of the stand
Seems to be a very ignorant woman! 😂
The UM before most of her answers is killing me!!!!!
The 911 call said he was face down is what Jen said in the 911 call bro
Yep! She said they just turned him over. This judge obviously favors the prosecution. Ughhh
If Karen’s car was facing Chapman St and she back into him he would not be on the left side of the lawn. He would be more to the middle right of the flagpole
Well, she certainly is for the prosecution. I don’t know anything at all whatsoever about DNA, but I could tell you if it dropped on the floor and it wasn’t packaged correctly. It could be contaminated!
Definitely she is definitely trying very very hard for the prosecutor.
...Especially if it was collected in a red plastic party cup!
I see this as an easy appeal if she is found guilty. The judge is incredibly bias.
@conniematos exactly, the lawyers Mic’s are low and the prosecutor is whispering. Atleast AJACKS is projecting… he has super confidence
Another Annie Dugan ?
Karen Read could not have taken off John's clothes and set him in the snow. Just the fact that his clothes and a shoe is missing tells me someone cleaned up got rid of evidence. They need to focus on that for real. #FreeKarenRead
She’s like 90 lbs…
End of questioning , by by
Add another liar to the list
You ain’t kidding. This is beginning to resemble a story of mass alcoholism. I would think it’s common for more than one alcoholic to hang out together and consume alcohol. Here, it’s like an entire group of alcoholics with their police friends to take care of any DUIs. This is just crazy. This whole case is riddled with alcohol and it smells like a fart. Not Guilty!!
I also feel that the judge is favouring the prosecutor, she keeps interfering and interrupting at points which seem to leading somewhere. It’s is starting to annoy me!
I noticed the same thing throughout this trial.
Ummm ummmmmmmmmmm unmmmm
This expert witness mispronounces “nuclear” repeatedly!! WTF!!
I have noticed that the judge CONSTANTLY inserts herself into the trial. The judge has a NEEDY personality.
The judge sustained the harassment when Brian Albert mentioned it. Never brought in!
I see DUI guy
This Nagel guy clearly does not want to answer the defense questions and he clearly saw Karen Read alone in her suv. Nagels girlfriend also said Karen was in the suv by herself! JO went in the house! Also its very annoying how Lally objects before the defense can even get their question out!!!
What time did these three people arrive at 34 Fairview????
But there is a reason she wanted to stay .... why would you call and ask someone to come pick you up ... and once they got there change your mind ... with the WEATHER getting bad ...
My brother would be furious if I asked him to pick me up then change my mind after he gets there( at that age)
wtf this witness is corrupted
They all are!!! They answer the same way. If you made a statement my favorite shit is blue it’s the one I wore yesterday. And I asked did you make the statement this is your favorite blue shit they’d say no because their statement included that they wore it yesterday so no that’s not my statement and this is exactly the answering that Brian Albert preformed! The first sentence of a statement he made in front of the grand jury completely contradicted the second sentence in his statement and yet because he asked him if he made the first statement, he said no because that was not the statement he made in its entirety. His statement was that he had never laid eyes on, nor ever spoke to care in a day in his life yet he did say that, but the second sentence stated that he may have said one or two sentences to her. When defense asked him if he had stated that he never seen her a day in his life, nor spoke to her he said no, because he actually said that he may have said a sentence or two to her right after that sentence tell me how manipulating and twisting that is it makes my brain hurt to even think of having a conversation with that guy monster bad cop he spent 30 years torturing people fall asleep, charging, and covering up their lies
@@AshleyMarieMommy. Good observations!!!
@@tobydean7097 thank you 🥰
Julie’s brother is very credible
It’s interesting that Julies N Brother said He received a text at Hillside from Julie saying that She needs a ride but didn’t Her time on The stand She said Matt McCabe and His Wife driven Her Home.
The way I understood her testimony was that she needed a ride home, but when he got there she wanted them to come in and they wanted to go home, so she stayed. That is when the McCabes took her and her friend home. Why wouldn’t she just have taken that ride, as I understood she left with the McCabes very soon after.
It's 12 days later and this is a huge red flag. Because she said she text him at about 12:15 to come and get her and he took about 40 minutes.
@@nuorigin I can’t see how did Lt Gallagher not see any bloody shoe prints in The snow or anyone else.
@@nuorigin I have question to ask John’s cause of death is Hypothermia not only it was that but blunt force head trauma. I don’t believe no body could persuade Me to think that Karen ran Her car over Him because She to Me was quite stable enough to drive despite the fact She hit Her tail light and because did Mr. O’Keefe have any tire marks on His body or clothes?. To me I don’t know if I’m right that tire marks would leave traces across His body but if I’m correct than He wasn’t ran over. Mr O’Keefe was possibly had gone into The house believing that He would be welcomed until He gotten upset and that’s when Brian Albert started boxing with Him therefore The dog was loose and went mental, had him at his arm and than someone right behind Him came over to to hit Him in the head with a baseball bat or some other object cause blunt force head trauma.
noting what we now know about that night, what difference does it make what actual drink, if anything, that every person, if anyone, was drinking!
Ryan nagle and the other two people went to pick up ryans sister but she changed her mind, im thinking jen mccabe needed to talk to her personally, as jen ended up taking herbhome.. these thre individuals told the truth.
JOs iPhone should have been checked for prints and DNA but the amazing police didn’t bag it for evidence???? 😮
The prosecution whitenesses…… are all from the same blood line …CORRECT
Most replayed is direct of Ali MCabe at the end. Chick is hot.
Ally's cheeks look very red? Is it stress from lying?
I hope this opens everyone’s eyes up from now on when a person is convicted of a crime because we can all clearly see what’s going on in this trial!! in the past, people would say well I convicted him because they were two witnesses and they had no reason to lie! Now we all know that these kids are saying whatever the prosecutor told them to during their many long preps. I believe there were whether they put it on the books or not
Someone give the Covid Factory a cough drop 😂
In my opinion and experience with kids this age, I don’t believe that any of them were drinking beer. I believe they were all drinking hard liquor and they were told that they were drinking beer. Why did he feel the need to say beer that’s what I always drink. And I’ll say it again if someone checks their Uber app I guarantee these kids always take Ubers before and after and on this rare occasion, they all got picked up from the Albert home by someone very close to them because they can’t control the narrative of an Uber driver not to mention multiple Uber drivers
This is one of the sillier takes I have read. And there have been a TON of silly takes on this trial.
Why does the judge keep saying ill let him have it if an objection is made makes it sound shes on the prosecution team
“I’ll let him have it”. Thanks aunt bev?!!!! 😂😂😂
These witnesses aren't very observant people..."about what time did you get home?" " I don't remember ".🙄
It’s been 2 years and we’re drinking
@@debranagrocki4952. They weren’t even questioned about the night of the incident for at least 18 months?! They had to be coached by the CW attorney?! 😢
Seems like the State of Massachusetts and the prosecution are desperate. These are the worst witnesses ever. Talk about grasping at straws. Mr. Lally has got to be the worst Prosecutor ever.
@@tobydean709719 months later their being interviewed. Wouldn't that have blown a casket. Cmon somebody these are youngsters, they could have cared less. Agree they were coached.
How come everyone in court can say Mr Lally but when judge says it she sounds like shes sayn Doolally😮
Has the question about his clothing been resolved already? 🤔🤔🤷🤷🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
Karen Read is innocent 💞💞a big cover-up …it’s a shame they can’t track down Chloe the dog funny how they got rid of Chloe. weeks after John‘s death and can’t remember who they gave her too fishy to me…
Kim🇬🇧
Thank Goodness a JURY stands between. This Judge and the defendant !
The jury voted 9-3 to convict Read of dui/manslaughter.
Allison admitted that Colin wasn't there when John was there he had left. This was a slip of the tongue from her and she caught herself as she was continuing to speak and was about to repeat it... Then you can see the oops moment in her face.
I just wondered if the defense attorneys caught it! I DON'T THINK THEY DID! I did, replay her testimony you'll hear it!!!
Listener!!
If John wasn't there! Then she just put that " he wasn't here " statement to a lie!
Explain Ms. Allison that John was there .
Was the judge at the Alberts house that night?
Judge is sleeping with a dirty cop
Higgins lied about where he parked?
The O.J. defence. Baffle the idiots on the jury with pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo..
No, bring out the incompetence of the prosecution. All their evidence is garbage. With all the alcohol consumed through the day and into the evening…..I find it hard to believe that any of those alcoholics can remember what they did and said. This case is riddled with people under the influence of alcohol and it stinks like a big fart.
And put the blame on cops
Exactly!
OJ was guilty
@@JIMDUNNA7 yeah they are the criminals in this case according to the evidence
Interesting how Mr Nagler didn’t remember it was Proctor….like whaaaat? He’s the main detective culprit of the coverup. He must have known it was Proctor.
What is the MOTIVE for the family to frame Karen?
There is no motive because he never entered the house
Because he was allegedly killed in their home and dragged out thru the basement.
Well how would it look for these outstanding citizens look had they said, things got out of hand and a police officer died?. This would tarnish their reputation.
So would perjury
Because imo he was killed inside the home!!!
Hello the dog attacked him at that house look at the picture people cmon
Whose side is this judge on?? She certainly sustains a lot more of the defendants questions than the district attorney’s questions
The Albert family children, including Collin Albert, call the judge “Auntie Bev”. She has a long standing personal relationship to this entire family & refused to recuse herself when the judge was outed for having a personal relationship. Just imagine how many more innocent people have been sent to prison for crimes they did not commit. Thankfully Karen had the money to buy the best legal defense money could buy. Jackson is the absolute best at impeaching a witness & in general an outstanding attorney. Karens entire team is top notch!!