Why Strength is a Priority (for Size and Everything Else)
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Remember, the person that benches 350 doesn't bench 350 because he looks jacked. He looks jacked because he benches 350.
Other way around
I bench 405 and don't look jacked.
Checkmate.
@@Greggo1350 quarter reps dont count bro
Strength does not equal size. Plenty of guys can bench 350 and wont look it
I bench 295 but was told I look like I bench 290. How do I get the 2 in line?
I am in my 60s, and want to underline your point about focusing on strength as you get older. I was always a general focus lifter. Not a body builder, not a power lifter. General fitness, all compound movements. But plenty of time in the 8-10 rep range. But now, focusing more on strength is a no brainer. A lot of volume can wreck you at my age. And having usable strength is tremendous. When you can work with people twenty years younger moving heavy stuff and you hold your own. Its great.
Powerbuilding all the way
I recently entered my 40's.
I started lifting at 37 with 3-5 rep range in order to help with my Jiu Jitsu. At first I saw great gains in both lifting and BJJ.
But I eventually hit a wall with BJJ.
A few months ago my coach added squats in the 8-rep range (I cycle between 2-reps, 5-reps, and 8 reps) and I've found that the higher reps actually helped my BJJ by building my work capacity and it's also helped drive my other lifts.
I just wanted to add my $0.02 and say that the bodybuilding the rep-ranges have a place in training outside of body building.
@@wizzelhoart well, I have 20 years on you. So maybe we are differently situated. Lifting for strength works for me.
I find people who say things like this are never comparing apples to apples. Volume can wreck you...but that's mainly in terms of total work sets, not because of higher reps. Higher reps are almost always easier to recover from when you equate exercises, total number of sets and proximity to failure.
You went from doing 20 sets of leg exercises per week in the 8-10 rep range to failure of close to it to doing 5x5 on squats and maybe a few deadlift triples or something along those lines. You feel better now not because you're lifting heavier, but because you're doing half as many sets for your legs and lower back.
If you compare doing 5x5 @ 85% on squats vs 5x10 @ 75% on Monday, the former will wreck you for the week, the latter you can do again on Thursday, or on a push you could do it Wednesday and again Friday or Saturday.
To answer the question, "How much do ya bench?",
response, "never enough!".
Underrated comment 😂
No idea and don't care. I know how much I overhead press.
Going for the abs and “aesthetics” : - how much can you bench ?
Going for SBD results : - show your abs !
You can’t win , unless you’re Larry Wheels
Wrong mindset. When you're bodybuilding 'your bench' doesn't mean shit, bro.
@@the.natural.guy. Alex Leonidas, Bald Omni man, etc are all strong benchers and have crazy natty physiques, some fluff and pump 4x12 isn't the only way to make progress.
@@arstans1777 I didn't state it was the only way to make progress. They all have strong benches because they've built the 'size' in their chest to express those numbers through strength.
@@arstans1777 NH and GVS have relatively weak benches and still really good natty physiques, in the end, strength doesnt have to mean 1 rep max, progressing in higher rep ranges is basically every upside with zero downside.
@@NarasthenicsNeither is exactly known for having great chests
Kaz said 5x5 at 80% gave him the greatest amount of size and strength during his career.
I’ve found a lot of success with two sets of 3-5 followed by 2-4 sets of 6-12
Hell yea
I think Ronnie Coleman said it best: "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights!"
Vince Taylor had a helluva physique. Some of the best arms ever and curled no more than 40lb dumbells.
and now he's in a wheel chair
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Yeah nothing worst than an ego lifter. And Ronnie was the most famous ego lifter ever.
I agree 100 %.Strength is never a weakness.
So true. Strength training is vital as I get into my sixties. Pump sets for arms and shoulders come in after the necessities are done. Thank you for the great advice.
It seems bleedin obvious that if you get stronger, you can do the hypertrophy training of 10-20 reps with, wait for it... more weight, thus you get bigger.
Yes to all rep ranges. They're all useful.
You put that phrase really well. “It’s important that you don’t ignore things just because you don’t identify with it”
Reminds me of the country I’m in as a whole
I think there are objective aspects to our physique. The difference in our own perception and that of others is that we see ourselves everyday. The changes are so gradual that as they happen little by little we become desensitized to the overall sum of the changes. So we feel like we haven't changed, but others who haven't seen us for a bit and haven't seen every step of the change process simply see the sum of the results, which is far more impactful.
Training for physique is like living to eat. Does it feel good - yes. Should it be priority - no.
@@Gojimaru let us do our own things.
@@Gojimaru Sure, if it snows where you live. But when you live the coast looking ripped pay dividends.
I've found some simple easy to take measurements to work when tracking physique: arm to waist ratio (chest would be better but imo hard to measure accurately) or just waist to weight. If you can add 10 lbs weight while keeping the waist close to before (measure at same phase of diet/bulk), there's likely some muscle been built.
@@narayasuiryoku1397 nah.
Mr. Bromley I respect your expertise in strength, but as a hypertrophy enjoyer I need to share my experience from another pov.
1. Although strength is highly correlated to mass, you can mask the progress of mass building by using better leverage or techniques (especially in 3~5 range)
2. Using nervous potentiation helps you lift more, but also leads to technique differences, which technically lessens the stress on the target muscle.
3. There will be a time when adding mass is impossible. By the time you will also be older and more prone to injuries. Chasing strength wouldn't be a sustainable strategy.
4. What "strength training " does to your body is also trained in a hypertrophy system, excluding the specific technique of strength work.
5. Tension is a big component in hypertrophy, but fatiguing the muscles is also important. It's much EASIER to go to failure on a set of 3 than a set of 10.
Couldn’t agree more. Your last point is really important. Trying to go back to hard sets of 12 after becoming accustomed to heavier weights at 3-5 is really tough. Maintaining a focus on hypertrophy specific training is important for consistent gains.
Points 1 and 2-you can train for strength using your technique and form you use for hypertrophy, just lift as heavy as possible for that given workout. I am assuming you have powerlifting in mind here since this sport entails a usage of a specific technique for its lifts. Do not attribute strength training with powerlifting, two different things. Point 3-you just shot yourself on the foot right there, yes adding mass soon will be impossible which implies training for hypertrophy will be insignificant (remember, hypertrophy=increase in size=adding mass). This is where strength training comes very beneficial. Point 4-again refer to my refutation for points 1 and 2 regarding technique. Point 5, it maybe true that fatiguing a muscle is also important, but is it really necessary and in what context?
Your third poirnt, that when you get older and more prone to injuries, "chasing strength" is not a "sustainable strategy " is flat out wrong. I am in my 60s. Believe me, I can put myself out of action doing either kind of training. But focusing on strength is less likely to do that than focusing on volume. And you build usable strength that you can use every day.
@@richardmather1906 I believe you. Wisdom is gained through experience and you have a lot of it, I don't. I apologize for coming as arrogant, I'm working on it
@@richardmather1906Plus there comes a time when you can no longer chase strength, only minimise how much you lose. Training with low reps, high weight but well short of failure, really pays off then. I turn 71 next month, so I speak from experience.
Heavy lifting (3 to 12 reps) as a natty is where it's at
This is basically the story. Sometimes fo heavy weight for 3-5 reps, so, going little lower in weight sometimes for higher reps, upto 12 or max 15 or 20 sometimes.That's just all.
This is what happens when people get paid for talking(with all due respect) we keep getting same recycled stuff in everything fitness channel coz there is only so much to talk about.
It becomes more complicated once we're talking about ppl that are more than novice.
@@jcl9034 it surely does, but it's the same jist, just more systematic or conplex. Most content is anyways directed towards novices since they are the largest in number.
Great topic. Anecdotally I put a lot of size on when I started doing strength specific work instead of doing a push/pull/legs and going to failure on each movement. Hypertrophy guys often talk about mechanical tension… well putting more weight on the bar, cable stack, or machine equals more mechanical tension.
Yeah, I think hitting different rep ranges has benefits for builders and power guys
Great video. Totally agree. I incorporated strength excercises for several of the reasons you mentioned.
What I do is 1 or 2 excercises per muscle group with a strict strength focus... Barbell bench, bent over rows, deadlift, dips, heavy curls, etc.
I've gained significant mass, strength and the progress is easily trackable in the short-term.
The rest ~75% of my workout remains 8-12 rep range with a mix of compound, isolations, etc.
This was so good im 43 at 41 i started training for strength, today I'm complimented so the time about how strong i look the women like it and the men respect it win win all around, oh and i love adding the weight to the barbell
Watched again and enjoyed listening. I connected with a lot of what you say. You speak from experience in all areas. Thanks for the work you put in. Great clarification.
The longevity angle is an important one. Barring any debilitating condition, an 80 year old person training strength can have the same physical capability as an untrained 30 year old. If I can take care of myself and manage all normal daily tasks until I suddenly keel over, I'm counting that as a win.
Dan John talks about how strength makes the cup bigger. Being stronger makes everything easier. (including weight loss, regular life, etc)
Hey man, good content as always. I speak a little beyond my opinion, but man, love the fact that you're so strength-centric. Please don't get sucked into the TH-cam drama and name calling. Just sad how many good content producers get stuck in name-calling and bashing each other.
This video was an eye opener for me. I've got 20 plus years of training in. Now I'm gonna put some low rep strength training in as well
I implemented a strength top set to my full body workout a few weeks ago. I find I way more motivated now.
Great vid. Thanks man
Great video loved it
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Great channel, love it! so much info, thanks for sharing!
It's no surprise that some of the biggest bodybuilders of all time were also strong as bulls. Great video 💪🏻
This is how I’ve trained the past 2 years after 15+ years bodybuilding 8-12 reps.
I’ve gained more natural muscle then I did over those 15 years. My regret but that’s life
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@@loosecannon6142Yeah, if above is genuinely the case, I’d have to say there was another factor like a big dietary or recovery improvement. Newbie gains plus 14 years should consistently top any 2-year period if that decade and a half was done remotely right, and 8-12 is viable and even classical for hypertrophy, at least normally.
Always was confused by the pure hypertrophy crew. Like all the bodybuilders they look up to aren't strong as shit.
Ronnie Coleman said it best.
Dude, stop plugging strength everywhere you can. Being strong is cool and all but it's not everyone's top priority.
Arnold in his prime about 1971 to 1975 was the King of bodybuilding. He weighed about 240 to 260 lbs off season..Arnold was know to be no stranger to the bench press. His best bench was 400 plus pounds for reps. Maybe on a good day and he went for a maximum attempt single would have been about 500 lbs. Now the world powerlifting record close to that time in the 242 lb class and 275 on class was around 600 lbs. So the point I'm trying to make here is that even though Arnold loved the bench press and developed the most impressive chest at that time (if not ever ) he did not train like a powerlifter. But Arnold was still pretty damn strong in the bench press. 500 lb single or there abouts is nothing to sneer at. But do you think Arnold could have built that chest if all he ever worked up to was say 225 for 8-10 reps ????? Bottom line is if you want to get a lot bigger than you are now then you are gonna have to get a lot stronger than you are now. Why people don't get this concept is almost as stupid as people that believe that the earth is flat. You don't believe this then you will never get as big as your own genetic potential will allow. Plain and simple.
I've recently started moving most compound movements to lower rep ranges (4-6, 6-8, 6-10 and 8-10, depending on exercise and purpose) so I can better build strength in order to progress better on isolation and hypertrophy work.
I no longer care how big my bench press is, but if gaining better strength on it allows me to get another several concentrics on a machine press while heavily fatiqued in a set... that sure sounds like more volume to me. Plus, just using bigger weights on everything means more tonnage even if volume is the same.
I’m glad to see this video. This is only me I never really understood why someone would want to have lots of muscle but not want to utilize it strength wise. I’m not saying bodybuilders or generally buff people are weak by any means, they definitely arent.
An inability to understand another person’s goals is not a negative feature of other goals.
@@StandStrength that’s a fair point to make
What Strength is varies from person to person, Power Lifters and Strength focused lifters do not have a monopoly on what Strength means. (not saying you're saying this) Bodybuilding if we look at it program wise progresses strength for a different end. You can bodybuild and be strength focused and bodybuild while only using machines.
@@EpicVideoMaster11 i agree with you 100%
Tailoring my workouts to the 5-10 rep range depending on the lift has always given me better results than 12-20 for both size and strength.
Great Info
If you're not adding weight, reps, sets, (ie getting stronger) to your hypertrophy routine, hypertrophy won't occur. They go hand in hand and it's wild that in 2023 we still try to separate them 😅
What makes it even more confusing, is that they have countless examples (often being the most accomplished in bodybuilding) of dudes that are still crazy strong. It isn't a coincidence.
C Bum has a video out there of him squatting 600 for numerous, perfect reps, and he still goes relatively heavy on every exercise, so long as his form isn't shit, and he's not risking injury. Almost like they just disregard the whole intensity thing 🤷
Wanting to be 260lbs at low body fat is a niche thing, but even the most run-of-the-mill recreational athlete has 20+lbs more lean tissue than a sedentary person. For many, getting 'BIG' means becoming basically useful.
@@ElementFreedive L take
@@ElementFreedive, Not wanting to gain size is fine, but wanting to gain size is neither stupid nor is it a teenager want.
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Variety is key!
Bromley doesn't miss
Them: how much ya bench
Me: *my time to shine*
are you big?
Good background music choice 👍🏼
I do a simple Mon/wed/fri split and go, squat-bench/dead/squat-bench/[week 2] dead/squat-bench/dead and use DUP to powerbuild with. I toss in shoulders on Tuesdays and Saturdays.
This reminds me of an old article I read by a guy called C.S sloan. He mentioned a method of high sets low reps. So say 10 sets of 3 to 5 reps shy of failure but pushing self ramping up and then ramping down as needed typically using barbell lifts for this. End up getting a rly good level of volume and strength with this method.
Hey Bromley! I really need help with my overhead pressing. Would you be able to make a video on it breaking down your form or direct me to one? Thanks!
As simple as this conversation should be, it carries with it a lot of misunderstandings because strength is poorly defined and hypertrophy training has been occupied by horrible teachers.
I think the hypertrophy enthusiasts who listen to Natural Hypertrophy, Geoffrey Verity Schofield, Fazlifts, Basement Bodybuilding and Bald Omni Man have a very good grasp on the strength-size relationship that doesn’t need further elaboration from us more strength minded guys.
I will be making a response video as I think some aspects of your conclusion do not follow from your premises and some of your premises go off faulty assumptions. Love the work and general message but it’s important that we dont get dogmatic/parochial in our thinking
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Feller, I'm trying to not be unjust here but I have seen a comment on your page from someone who explains his reasons for unfollowing you. He described you needing to jump on this in each video and every comment is quite pretentious of yourself and rather annoying. I agree, you remind me of the child in the school playground who ran to the teacher carrying tales on other children all excited.
Furthermore, you make the passive aggressive approach in telling Bromley in the comment above it isn't needed and he shouldn't give such opinions as others have already done so, very rich coming from someone who claims he lacks certain qualities or experience in his videos. Which brings me to the main point, look at Bromleys credentials in strength competitive sports, look at his time served in this arena, I don't know Bromley from Adam but I can see he has been around the block and deserves to express what he likes without a little princess getting all excited about it. Being an ex military guy I thought you would have learned how to respect people. Hypertrophy covers many realms and doesn't belong to just one group of people. This man has a right to express his views as much as the next. If you don't agree fine. Basement Bodybuilding showed you levels in his response. Very dignified.
I feel like this video completely discounts that proper bodybuilding training does focus on progression, and it will get you stronger. You can get all the strength gains you need for bodybuilding while staying over 5 reps per set and focusing on providing a good stimulus to the target muscles rather than moving an arbitrary load
actually no, because hypertrophy/bb training inherently involves isolating muscles and maximizing stimulus to fatigue- which runs counter to traditional strength training. Adding 30lbs to your leg curl might mean you are stronger on paper, but it has fuck all application toward actual, functional, whole-body strength
Bodybuilders just get stronger with different technique, rep ranges, ranges of motion, tempo, wider variety of movements, intention to target specific muscles…
So yes, any hypertrophy enthusiasts worth listening to will tell you it’s good to get stronger. It’s all about the context of that strength though.
Si ! I alternate between 20 wk strength and hypertrophy blocks ; minor exercise changes or indeed rep / sets 😅
Also eccentric overload is very good for building strength
Stronger is always better.
It has been essentially proven at this point that low weight + extended time under tension reps can build an incredible amount of muscle. You don’t need to lift extremely heavy weights in order to get big. Lifting for strength imo helps much more in the long run as long as you can avoid the injury bug but both are viable options for building an aesthetically appealing physique. I’ll lift for strength first for the rest of my life but I won’t pretend that’s the only way or shame people into thinking the same way
Being able to consistantly increise the amount of quality volume you acumulate over time is the most important factor for muslce growth, and gradually adding reps and weight is just the best way to achieve it, sure you could grow your muslces using the same weight just icresising the amount of reps and sets you perform with it, but the time requierment for such method to work as well as traditional way of inceising quality volume(via reps and weight) just makes it less time consuming
One more benefit, joint and connective tissue adaptation requires heavier load on a longer time to be significant
I wrote years ago on one of the principles of Bulgarian training where they state that Hypertrophy is just a side effect from many types of training
unlike strength which is directly related to training intensity.
this is why getting stronger can also mean more capacity for more hypertrophy just my 2 cents
You sir are not full of crap, but WISDOM
Maybe they'll eventually do a long-term study and find that the original prescription for strength repetitions, endurance repetitions, and hypertrophy rep ranges were correct after all.
GreySkull LP with arms and dips!!!!
Isometrics are really good for building strength the old time strongman used isometric exercise
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Interesting food for thought... I'm still a somewhat of a low-tier intermediate lifter and I have been going for the hyperthrophy style training with lots of reps with medium weights (something like 70% of my max so that I can still do technically perfect sets in the 10-20 reps range) for a some time now and so far it seems to have gone pretty well for just gaining pure muscle size. Perhaps I should try some more strength focused training too after seeing this.
Keep doing what you’re doing until that stops working and then switch it yp
As a calisthenics guy I do learn allot from these types of videos. But do you have any advice for someone who’s trying to get stronger but stay at a lean state for advanced body weight movements like handstand push ups, planche, levers ect? Would really appreciate your point of view
Well as a fellow calisthenics bro, I will say you shouldn't chase 2 rabbits that go in opposite directions, when your relative strength goes up, your absolute strength goes down. There are examples such as Alex Leonidas that excel in both, but even him built most of his entire base on calisthenics, you can Maxx one of those and then branch out, but chasing the two rabbits at once in your come up years is foolish. Also, getting stronger doesnt only mean increasing your SBD 1 rep max, the guy who can do one arm pull ups is by all means considered strong, the powerlifting centric mindset has to die.
Try low rep ranges like 1-4 reps with heavy weight. Heavy is relative to you. But should be a weight where if someone gave you $100 you wouldn't do two extra reps
one of my lifetime goals is a 1000 pound squat (perhaps only possible with wraps let's see), I'm at 455 atm. I can see myself achieving it perhaps in a decade +
I had similarly lofty goals when I was younger; having a ton of that optimism early on is responsible for most of my success, even if I didn't hit some of them. You actually have a build that looks like it could support a grand. Good luck.
@@AlexanderBromley I be tryna like Jesus Olivares. Thank you!!! : D
How tall are you ?
@@jcl9034 5'6 hobbit
Everything is good. Strength and hypertrophy should be periodised. Prioritising strength for a prolonged period of time leads to injuries for most people. Training for mass for three months and then strength for three months gives the body the rest and recovery it needs.
Well said Bromley. Full of crap certainly not. For me I'm all about the strength but understand a hypertrophy block from time to time helps, although it's all about getting strong and I can honestly say I couldn't care less how I look as long as the Mrs loves me 😂. I remember watching a clip on Dave Tate speaking on this subject and he had me laughing aloud. His words on hypertrophy blocks. "It bores the fuck out of me" or something of the kind aha. Hypertrophy for me is just to strengthen weak area's but most early stage lifters strengthen theirselves enough with the barbell in the lower rep range (and build mass), I'm glad you did this as there seems to be a few strength athletes moving into the bodybuilding arena. Not my cup of tea, body building that is.
Can you mke a video how to bench press for building base
He has one.
Can you do a review on the program death bench? By mdisbrow
Interesting the lower rep range, i mean, i like doing sets of 6-8 on most of my exercises... but incorporating 3s-5s would be beneficial? for example a 3-5 set then doing back off sets? (oh, topic 4 answered it! i'll try doing on hack's and supported presses and rows)
It’s not, he’s wrong. Look up Renaissance periodization differences between strength and size training.
@@soonahero i did actually, was just trying to get more ideas! i love RP guys tho
I've built my physique from mostly sets of 5 or 8. I have competed in Classic twice but I'm not a bodybuilder, just a powerlifter. What I will say is there's no way you do not get bigger by taking your squat from say, 315x3x5 to 365x3x5 RPE 7-9. Also, by getting stronger in absolute terms, when you switch to higher rep ranges you'll be able to use more weight and mechanical tension to your muscles which helps to promote hypertrophy. Structuring your training into phases keeps rep ranges fresh and more stimulative, giving you better gains than just doing the same shit and plateauing. It should also be worth saying, some people respond better to lower rep ranges than higher ones. Just genetics. That's my case and some of the people who I coach. Most do wonderful in the 12-15 range, but not all of them. I'd do 3 months of 12-15, 3 months 8-10, and 3 months of 5s. I don't recommend everyone go for 1 rep maxes but you'd have another 3 months to train below 5 reps if you wanted. This is very watered down periodization obviously, but 9 months of the year you would be making really good gains and specializing for 3 months.
Hi Alex, I like your videos and your message but I personally didn't like the background beat. You don't need that, you have high quality info. The beat is more distracting to your words than engaging.
This is why rip was right all along. Do your fahves
the reason you can't get the same hypertrophy from just the low end of 5-30 is because of fatigue. One set of 5 will give the same hypertrophy of a set of 30 at the same intensity, but volume is important for hypertrophy and you can't do the optimal hypertrophy volume with only sets of 5 because the fatigue will be too high to execute the sets at the required quality.
Optimal strength and optimal hypertrophy are two different things, you can try to get the best of both but you can't have both optimal at the same time. It is mutually exclusive to optimize both at the same time. By optimizing one, you are by definition sacrificing the other. Training strength is great, but this is unfortunately not a reason why, it's not true that you can optimize hypertrophy while training for strength.
Alexander Bromley citing studies? We'll make a "science based" guy yet! :P
(For real though, I consider you more "science based" than most of the actual "science based" guys, including Jeff Nippard whose content I actually like - everything is looked at and explained concretely and drawing on anecdotal evidence which, while not perfect, has to be used to supplement studies in a field as varied and diverse as human biology and responses to stimuli.)
Get stronger without getting bigger. I did it.
When you are running from men with guns, evil men who can shoot straight, competent men, being huge won't help as much as being able to run.
Not a fan of the background music. Enjoyed the videos more without it. Great video still
Can you go back to your old video format where you went over technique more. Back then I used to watch a lot more.
Look Bromley. Getting *stronger* is *hard* okay. Stop telling me what I need to hear...
Seek strenght,the rest will follow.
Alex what’s your opinion about coach Jason Blaha
He’s not a coach
@@LordoftheSith your just mirin coach his fysiek just keep it real
Regarding dysmorphia, the tape don't lie! But for real, after a year of intense, consistent lifting, I don't see much difference. However, my large collection of designer Italian blazers, dress shirts, and slacks no longer fit. It's a bittersweet feeling.
I kinda thought this video was just some good reasons strength training can be beneficial to hypertrophy.
Not sure why some people found this video so controversial.
You are regularly trying to educate strength athletes on the importance of hypertrophy training and you also regularly acknowledge you do not consider yourself to have a super aesthetic appearance.
You also are not really a powerlifter but more of a competitive strongman where the training is much different than just training for one rep maxes on the big three.
All these things considered I am not sure why some assumed you thought you were an authority on hypertrophy training and telling them all how they need to train.
I Wonder how much cardio work transfers over to strength training.
11:44 reality is a bitch
Sounds like some strength coping to me! Work on getting your bench down to 225 so that you can make some real gains!
So this channel has a video that is titled "10 Reasons Volume is KING for Size and Strength" and "Why Strength is a Priority (for Size and Everything Else) ". Is there not a contradiction between pursuing volume vs pursuing strength?
Volume is a training tactic, strength is a goal. Whats the contradiction?
@@AlexanderBromley Well usually you don't do a lot of volume when pursuing a strength training regimen.
'Volume' It's a general way to refer to 'amount of work' and has a few different ways of measuring. When you see a video that talks about 'volume', it isn't necessarily talking about high or low reps. Periodized strength routines have high and low volume phases, though the reps might stay low the whole time, and programs like Shieko are notorious for the number of working sets and frequency, making it very high volume compared to other strength-specific programs.
When I say I like volume, I'm not even talking about doing a lot of work year-round; what I mean is that I like to use the amount of work in a program as something I can increase or decrease to keep progress going, its' a tool to be used that many don't know how to manipulate. This is in opposition to HIT proponents who view one volume range (very few sets with extremely high effort) as being 'optimal' and insist that you should never not do that.
@@ciswhitemalewithextraprivi7898 Also.... bro.... you did not make a video defending Pearl lol.
@@AlexanderBromley More like I was defending Nick Fuentes
Is this not just progressive overload in the end?
Depends. You can Progressive Overload in multiple ways, rewarding you in multiple ways, even if they look almost the same on the surface
@@glen3133 Yeah dude, but as long I'm getting stronger I'm progressively overloading, right?
@Demoncore , Yes. A lot of "bodybuilders" prefer adding sets and reps first.
Well since you brought it up, how much you bench bro 🤨
Has-beens have immunity from this question. It's an unspoken rule.
@@AlexanderBromley l am bodybuilder and l can bench more for reps than you for strenght)
Background music makes the video very annoying.
You should definitely not focus on strength if your goal is hypertrophy. Strength is an important byproduct of bodybuilding but you shouldn’t let it become a distraction, precisely because it is easier to track and all the other reasons mentioned in this video.
This guy gets it!
Basement Bodybuilding in shambles
Why? He's bigger and looks better than Bromley?
Nah it's one man's opinion against another. No need to be a fanboy of either to know each has their own ideas.
20 reps plus I'll be only using the bar 😂😂😂😂 what's the point
And maybe someday you’ll weigh more than a golden retriever and wouldn’t that be nice
You're incredibly smart, dude. I'm a hypertrophy enthusiast and some of your points just dont line up.
I am not smart enough personally to get my words across at times but i'll stick with this.
Dont ask the strength guys about getting bigger, just stay in your lane bro please.
Natural bodybuilding is only just 'waking up' from a 70 year slumber. Dont confuse the youngens wanting to get bigger to get directly sucked into the strength rabbit hole.
TH-cam was a shit place for bodybuilding for many years and things are just coming to light now.
Stand Strength did a great response to your video. Please check it out.
With all due respect, people who are brand new to this don't get to tell others to 'stay in their lane'. At this point in your training, the very best you can do is repeat the opinions of people you think are smart, but even that judgment isn't to be trusted. Pay your dues and take some notes before feeling entitled to strong opinions. You will be better for it.
@Alexander Bromley I understand that I'm still small but some of the things you speak about don't line up with a lot of what the top natural big guys say. I just think it's odd someone of my low experience level can notice these things
Just do hypertrophy blocks back to back to back to back…
Training for strength for hypertrophy is like training a triathlon for hypertrophy. Yeah you have more strength and more work capacity, but that actively harms hypertrophy.
Don’t let stupidity get in the way of reality.
Endurance athletes should aim for strength than hyperbolshetrophy. Its simple. Bigger csa doesnt equate to being faster or efficient. 😂
@@PhiyackYuh endurance athletes should stop being endurance athletes and go for size and aesthetics. Like adults
"training for hypertrophy" = "training to get to get the sarcoplasmic turgor delivered by the anabolic drugs"
Brian Alsruhe is a good example of the difference between "strength + steroids" versus "steroids + bodybuilding exercise" He looks big and strong, like an ox, the density of the muscles, the structure and movement communicates his physical power.
both but powerlifting sucks
Go heavy but still keep the reps 8to12 ... also once warmed up do one proper working set per exercise.. high intensity is the way forward .. so many now just waste energy doing 3to 4sets per exercise going through the motions leaving reps on the table not really pushing themselves anywhere near failure..
Ive never seen a very muscular person that wasnt also strong. Does strength not come as a natural byproduct of proper hypertrophy training just at a slower pace? I feel like some of this is just sifting through the minutia and the weeds
A lot of modern-day "bodybuilders" do not try to use low weights with high reps and add sets as opposed to adding weight to the bar. This works for a lot of the top guys, but a lot of people see no results from it.
Strength comes with hypertrophy, yes, it's sifting through bullshit. Ultimately you have to get bigger to get stronger. That's just how it works.
Incredible overhead pressing strength. When you were over head pressing (I M guessing of 400 lbs) what did you weigh. You look like you were built to press at any angle. I know strongman emphasizes overheadpress. Did you ever focus on flat or incline press. Tbe 3-30 reps thing is flawed because you go low and get 700 Squat, now you csn do 20 rep Squats with 405-455. That will produce more mass and density (whicj also produces higher quality tissue from an anesthetic perspective) . Pendulum training, blocs of different rep schemes or conjugate is necessary to maximize. Mass in my opinion. It doesn't mean you have to develop elite strength but if you do it can't hurt
If you can lift heavier weights you can lift more, simple as.