1- Correction on the latency graphs. Should say microseconds, not milliseconds. ;) Thanks "the Reverant" for pointing this out! 2- Check out my 15 Gen4 SSD Roundup for some more info: th-cam.com/video/Zy2HtI20eFQ/w-d-xo.html 3- Markings on my sample are as follows: *Controller:* Sandisk 02-1008T-A1 14872XFD3S5 China *Memory:* Sandisk 001987 1T00 China 14620CEKX00W Keep in mind that just because markings change it doesn't mean you're being cheated. But it's good to keep an eye out for major revisions under the same product name!
Hello I testet 2 of the 1tb modells in a hp zbook fury 15 g8. I also teste 2 of the sn850 2tb in this mobile workstation. After round an hour the sn770 was still cool by araound 85c°. The sn850 was by over 95c° and throttled. So after round abaout an hour of heavy use the sn770 had a better performance. Before anyone asks I use 2 drives because so i can use raid 1 to get a datamirror.
You're just too professional. You are certainly an agent of WD. Ok, well... Your commercial is for gamerboys. Now tell me as a non-gamer, as a Dell Optiplex user, what is better about the WD red SA700. PCie 3 is OK, .. my Dell also has a PCi 3 .. So why do I, as a quality-conscious Dell user, have to buy the WD 700. What is the difference? ..so to speak the secret of the high TBW performance?
Stick to your current impartial style. You're extremely knowledgable, and I'm learning from you even as a "seasoned" builder. 1 million subs before 2023, no doubt.
@@christopherjackson2157 Couldn't agree more! Linus Tech is a circus of drama and even will resort to emotional breakdowns on camera for clicks. There are others trying to develop a schtick to draw in audiences, but I just want reviews backed up with data. Of course it doesn't hurt the host is easy on the eyes but no fault of hers.
2:05 - Agree with you regarding the sticker - "Yeah, you should have 100% faith in our ability to make products which require nanometer precision, despite the fact that we were incapable of putting on a sticker correctly!"
I got a WD Black SN770 and I love it's performance. I play indie games at 1440p, I edit video at 1080p using Davinci Resolve and for $59.99 for 1tb NVME Gen 4 I can't complain for it performance. Excellent information, I love the way how you provide us the nif and the video edition. I'm watching from the Dominican Republic.
I just got a 2TB drive of this SN770 for 73USD. What a bargain! I used Macrium Reflect to migrate my System SSD to it and so far, everything works just as it was on the older drive i had, a SN750 500gb. Mine had no sticker issues 😅😅
I was an avid Samsung fan since my first SSD, Samsung 830. Then bought 840, 850, 860 and afterwards went on NVME 970 EVO Plus and 980 Pro. My SATA drives still work perfectly, although I don't use them anymore. However, all my NVME went broke in less than a year and one in less than 6 months. Now I got the Western Digital SN 770 Gen 4 1TB and Crucial P3 Gen 4 1TB. I'm extremely happy with both. Heavy gaming, countless times reinstalled Windows 10 and 11 and thus far, zero problems. Let alone they're much cheaper, too. I got each for 44€ and 46€ respectively, only.
Quality of your videos and especially presentation is very good and still keeps improving! Thumbs up! You don't go super deep into some aspects as to the complete 'why' of things, although your brief mentions to these things and my own (hopefully sufficient) knowledge does mean that i trust what you are saying, albeit with a caution of my own responsibility in the end. At least that's the vibe I'm getting of your videos and i like it! groetjes uit Hengelo. :)
Something that no online testers seem to cover is use of M.2 drives in external enclosures. (I know there are many ready-made USB 3 devices but I like the dual use possibilities.) Consistency should be less of a factor, SLC cache performance might or might not be, power draw and thermal performance probably would be. I know the variables are numerous because of the plethora of enclosures out there, but ... Please think about doing such a test; you'd have almost no competition with regard to viewers since this use case seems to be universally ignored. Love your channel!
Właśnie kupiłem sn770 by zrobić z niego pendrive 1 TB bardzo dobrze się spisuje. Biorąc pod uwagę dzisiejsza cenę ten dysk w cenie 50 USD na Amazon nie ma konkurencji. Ale racja dobrze by było przetestować różne adaptery nvme bo nie które mają bardzo słaba wydajność w praktyce
@@mrbeckham666 Thanks for the feedback! Some time back, NVMe based USB 3.2 gen 2 drives were very reasonably priced on Amazon. I bought a number of them for both myself and family members. I have an SN770 and it works great in my computer. I'd not yet tried it in an external enclosure. The lack of a DRAM cache had worried me. It's nice to know that the SN770 doesn't fall flat in an enclosure.
I have to agree with that sticker placement criticism, It's kind of like a work of art on the wall that isn't perfectly centred, Not that it matters if it's in a pc, Out of sight Out of mind as "They say",
The fast latency and lesser consistency might be use of exceptionally faster but smaller cache, (cache memory being a common component of fast NVME drives).
That junk has no DRAM at all. It has "SLC cache", which means it just dumps everything into the cells and tries to sort things in idle cycles, which cuts its TBW down to 25% and causes speed drops.
I've bought a few WD Black drives in the past, but since they got caught switching controllers in some of their drives, I've held off till I see some kind of "positive" change in their future products! The fact that they are hiding details like this tells me that they still haven't changed one bit. WD is a No-Go for me! 👎🤦♂️
well, just telling my experience, i bought their WD Green SSD on May 2021. within 4-5 months it's ssd health drop to 70%. this is just aweful. luckily still in warranty and I issued for RMA. yet, it took almost a month of solve the issue and end up by they replacing with the new unit. since then, i never want to use this brand again.
@@KikiDaily09 WD Green SSDs are slow and have poor endurance ratings. A check of the specs before you bought it would have revealed this. But most people buy based on price alone. Then complain it's crap. It's a case of you get what you pay for.
@@theyeshhh if the price isn’t a factor then I suggest you just get the 850. But if you would rather not spend more money, then the 770 from my testing works perfectly. Nice and fast and I’ve had 0 problems.
I was stoned a'f and accidentally purchased this for my PS5 from best buy fooled me because I swear it had a PS5 compatibility sign idk but I got it and put it in my PS5 with a third party heatsink and it's working lol
I smell golden sample like what companies always do when they launch a new piece of hardware. Would love for you to revisit this drive later on when they are in shops for a while and see if they cheaped out on the flash memory
Bait and switch is a criminal activity in any other industry but tech.These companies need to be charged accordingly, but too bad they pay a lot of political contributions. Years after the petition for the strict laws, our congress turned a deaf ear to consumers.
@@klaymoon1 exactly, you wanna act like a no good criminal piece of shit. You should be treated like it. So when a company does this, without a good explanation, hold them accountable. As it's said here it's a budget ssd. A budget ssd that outperformed top line. That shit is fishy, and i can smell it miles away. Im going with golden sample for now. Time will tell if they go criminal.
Your video is what convinced me to go for it last year ..got the 1TB model for $45 (it costs more than 4x that price where i live, so that was definitely a steal 😎) ..i use it mostly for gaming and haven't encountered any issues whatsoever which made me want to buy the 2TB version today for my first build and i manage to get it for $85, which i think is another steal! 😁 ..as far as price/performance, i think its one of the best NVME SSD you can get at the moment! So, a year late, but thank you very much for this very professional and informative video! 😀 P.S: the sticker on the 1TB model came perfectly alligned 🙃😅..hopefully the 2TB will follow suit, but if it doesn't, i'll still keep it!😋
Thanks for the early review as I only even learned about this SSD through tech site press releases today! One thing I would like to see added to your testing, if possible, is something which specifically benchmarks 4k random performance (even something simple like Crystal Disk Mark). While most modern SSDs do seem to be limited by NAND more than anything else in these tests it can still be an important variable for use case. Assuming nothing changes with the hardware of the drives this sounds like it could be really good as a secondary drive for games etc. I currently use a pair of 1tb SATA SSDs for most of my games and all local storage with my OS and select games being on my NVMe drive.
the video looks and sounds so professional, i just bought the 250gb capacity version and hope it allows my pc to run much faster considering the only drive i'm using rn is a hdd which i've heard are miles slower than an ssd. video was very nicely put together, you just got a new sub
Oh? Thank you for a comprehensive dive into this drive. It is on a "I ought not to pass up on this" sale price on NewEgg in Canada. Due to not being a gamer, well, unless we count MS Solitaire,😊it's perfect for my needs. Thanks again.
I got this drive 2TB for $80. I keep watching reviews to see what the catch is but the more I watch the more I’m sold on it. Was planning to get a 1TB SN850x as my main but at this point I might just keep this.
Keen to know too, currently am looking out for a 2TB for OS, Crucial P5+ $135 WD SN770 $118 Crucial P3+ $125 Crucial P3 $97 Any kind advice on which is more suitable and worthed?
I'm with you on the wonky sticker! ... Little things like that bug me too! ... I'm a bit of a perfectionist, but I'm mellowing slightly as I get older, and I'm trying to be more accepting of life's little imperfections .. and wonky stickers! 🤣
WD: Removes the D-ram chip and sells it at the same exact price of previous model WITH the D-Ram "wow they really stepped it up" ............bro what XD
This SSD is completely fine for PS5, it's only a fraction not even a second slower than the original one. There's actually a pretty good test here on TH-cam.
Hello from Canada!!! Great Review of the WD770. I'm very interested in this drive for my main Gaming RIG, but I did happen to see what exact memory chip and controller your test unit had in the description. Would be greatly appreciated to have that knowledge before making a buying decision.😀😀😁😁
So regarding using it for consoles, I don't recommend it as PS5 at least, most probably XsX also don't support HMB, which is crucial in performance consistency metrics over time. HMB in essence uses PC RAM as Cache instead of the NVME drive needing DRAM cache on it's own. The consequences of that is when the buffer overloads at above 337GB of transfer, your Sequential Speed plumets from 5000 Mb/s down to 500 Mb/s, still faster than SATA but a lot slower than nvme drives with dedicated DRAM cache on board like WD SN850 or Samsung 980 Pro, which after 5-10 minutes of Sequential Writes still continue at over 1.5Mb/s. So basically when transfering ton of games from PS5 integrated storage to Nvme drive it will take you 1/3 the time or at worse half the time when compared to storage without DRAM like SN770.
You realise, about 1/100 people will transfer more than 337 gigs of games at once? And you only need to do it once! Once the games are on the drive it's all READS
@@Neosin1 Yeah that is still 66% faster, if you transfer 700gb or 7 games. So you realise, this information is important depending on the price difference. That can be a big difference of couple hours faster. Even with 1 game that can be done a lot faster. Basically in most of EU SN770 cost almost as much as SN850, so obviously SN850 would be a better choice. Just this week SN850 1TB was going for 94EUR and 2TB for 180EUR. While SN770 was going for only couple EUR cheaper.
@@KryssN1 You are totally right and im so happy to see someone else make a point of it. The SN 750 used Dram. It was the same price. Now, this NEW 770 is a standard garbage d-ram less drive, and shouldn't be considered for any reason. There ARE options as the same price with d ram, so there is no selling point, its just a bad drive. Such a shame considering the SN 750 was my go to recommendation for a drive.
Great video I bought this drive in the black Friday sales this year and I've yet to test it out, I'm planning on pairing it with an RTX 4070 12gb but I'm waiting for the January sales to see what happens after nvidia announce their new rtx super cards. I also have an msi Pro B650-S WiFi motherboard and a ryzen 7600 cpu
Now WD will substitute the modules with cheaper stuff and sell under the same name. That’s what WD does. Just because it gets a good benchmark, don’t think you will get the same performance.
@@kennywhiddon1497 Samsung made more of a "lateral" change as shown by several reviews (more possible reason due to chip shortages), whereas WD and some others got caught downgrading their drives after reviews
Basically WD’s flash array architecture is better than anyone else, it’s called BICS 5 here, was BICS 4 for the SN850 and with less NAND layers it beats B47R or Samsung’s V-NAND easily
The sn770 has the newest WD nvme flash, BiCS5. The sn850 is using BiCS4. This is probably at least part of the reason for the sn770's shocking real-world performance and latency with only four channels. For this reason, at this time I think people should put off buying the sn850 at its current pricepoint, because it may soon be leapfrogged by an upgraded version with BiCS5, which will blow away the current sn850 if the performance jump from sn750 to sn770 is any indication.
If you need an SSD now, I wouldn't wait, there is always something better "soon". But a SN850 upgrade could really destroy the competition, that's for sure :)
WAIT... so does the SSD not look like it does on the packaging with the full length black sticker?! Why would you put an image on the product box that is not representative of the product?
Really enjoying content and presenting style. Here in the UK on Amazon there has seems to be a push on Integral SSD's but i've struggled to find any useful information on them. Is that a brand you might have time to look into?
currently am looking out for a 2TB for OS, Crucial P5+ $135 WD SN770 $118 Crucial P3+ $125 Crucial P3 $97 Any kind advice on which is more suitable (DRAM vs DRAMless, using 2*DDR5 4800mhz 16gb) and worthed?
With so many different brands of ssd,its pretty hard to choose which one to buy.I guess it will depend on the budget of the users and what task they do.
@@TechTesters Only on DDR4 for now :( It'd be interesting to see a video on the difference between DDR4 Vs DDR5 with these DRAM-less SSDs, not much out there about it.
Is SN770 good for gaming or should I go for SN850x, if its a small difference I prefer the cheaper SN770. Does DRAM makes a great difference in performance?
It's currently very difficult to evaluate the real world performance difference between different drives on the PS5, given the lack of games which utilizes the specs of the PS5s SSD to it fullest. To me, the 5.5 GB/s read speed seems like a bit of Overkill from Sony, especially since the Xbox Series X gets by just fine with less than half of that!
Excellent, thorough video, love it! Do you sometimes use content creation benchmarks like Blender and Resolve for real world performance applications? Subscribed
Another reason to not choose this for use in a PS5 is that much like the SN750SE this is a DRAM-less drive, which Sony aren't recommending because the PS5 doesn't support HMB.
@@andrewlewis5251 It really depends, as the downsides of DRAM-less drives are much less with NVMe drives than with SATA or AHCI drives. That is of course as long as your system supports HMB, which is the case of Windows and Linux. Most low- and mid-range NVMe drives on the market are DRAM-less, and if you are buying a 2230 M.2 SSD to put in a laptop or Steam Deck it is pretty much guaranteed to be DRAM-less as well - as are the ones that come in the Steam Deck by defaut for that matter.
If SN850 and SN770 are at the same price I'm better off with Sn770 as main drive? Seems better overall in your review. Sn850 is on sale on Amazon for U$270 for 2tb.
Great but very difficult question! The SN770 looks better for most light/medium cases, and the SN850 is better for heavy work and PS5 use. My only concern is how the SN770 will do on an older system, as it uses HMB so it benefits from a fast test system. Something we're looking into right now! :)
@@TechTesters oh, great. Thanks for answering. The sn850 was tested on the same system? I myself have a 3700x with x570 and ddr4, so I might go with sn850 just in case.
It is interesting that the price difference between this and the green SN350 is very small, but the SN350 has a scary bad endurance figure (100 TBW for the 2TB). Yes, you read that right, 12 times lower than the SN770.
I was like "Ok, you're being pretty pedantic about the sticker." But then every time the SSD was on screen, all I could see was the horribly crooked sticker placement...
i have it on my ASRock Z370 Extreme4 and the wd black sn 770 is not seen on the bios the samsung 980 and PNY 500 GB XLR8 CM3031 are working in the bios can you help
I Would wanna purchase this,but i don´t know if i would need a heatsink for the ssd since im on a laptop (Omen 15) and donnt know how to check if my laptop can use this item for extra storage. Also I don´t if this will prefrom very well for gaming,since i sometimes game up to 6to 10 hours a day. So if you have video´s on this topic or can explain it this to trough yt than that would be a great help. (Games: call of duty modern warfare 2,gta5,fortnite,red dead redemtion 2,...)
@@useless1 I did not buy this this One bought another from crucial that was on sale (I don't really remeber Witch One) But i just got the ssd without a heatsink and I have no problems so far
just got the WD_BLACK SN770 1TB, M.2 2280, NVMe SSD, Gaming Drive, Gen 4 PCIe, Read speeds up to 5150 MB/s on sale 71 pounds hoping for good performance fingers crossed my old fire cuda 510 bit the bullet so this video give me some idea kinda sounds like the 770 is in the middle of the road or even maybe ?
Im using it as a secondary drive, storing steam games on it since I ran out of room. Im running games from it as a secondary drive and noticing some stuttering and long load times.
thorough review as always. but i imagine if the sticker is plastered on manually at the factory it would be tough to do it perfectly straight, as they would probably be doing 20 per minute.
Dram? Please explain if this matters. I heard this causes problems for mapping. I'm not sure if corporation jargon marketing is really true about using ram/CPU really helps (and if it does...is it a good idea).
Do not consider ANYTHING that does not use Dram! Dram is what separates low quality drives from the high quality drives. I would recommend watching the LTT video on the importance of D-ram, it really drives the point home.
1- Correction on the latency graphs. Should say microseconds, not milliseconds. ;) Thanks "the Reverant" for pointing this out!
2- Check out my 15 Gen4 SSD Roundup for some more info: th-cam.com/video/Zy2HtI20eFQ/w-d-xo.html
3- Markings on my sample are as follows:
*Controller:*
Sandisk
02-1008T-A1
14872XFD3S5
China
*Memory:*
Sandisk
001987 1T00
China
14620CEKX00W
Keep in mind that just because markings change it doesn't mean you're being cheated. But it's good to keep an eye out for major revisions under the same product name!
Hello
I testet 2 of the 1tb modells in a hp zbook fury 15 g8. I also teste 2 of the sn850 2tb in this mobile workstation. After round an hour the sn770 was still cool by araound 85c°. The sn850 was by over 95c° and throttled. So after round abaout an hour of heavy use the sn770 had a better performance. Before anyone asks I use 2 drives because so i can use raid 1 to get a datamirror.
Kioxia BiCS5 112L TLC
You're just too professional. You are certainly an agent of WD. Ok, well... Your commercial is for gamerboys. Now tell me as a non-gamer, as a Dell Optiplex user, what is better about the WD red SA700. PCie 3 is OK, .. my Dell also has a PCi 3 .. So why do I, as a quality-conscious Dell user, have to buy the WD 700. What is the difference? ..so to speak the secret of the high TBW performance?
fantastic video. As a photographer looking to store and edit photos on a M1 macbook pro, would you recommend this?
Stick to your current impartial style. You're extremely knowledgable, and I'm learning from you even as a "seasoned" builder. 1 million subs before 2023, no doubt.
Best reviews on youtube. No rants, no editorializing, just the facts you need to make an informed purchase. Let the product speak for itself.
@@christopherjackson2157 Couldn't agree more! Linus Tech is a circus of drama and even will resort to emotional breakdowns on camera for clicks. There are others trying to develop a schtick to draw in audiences, but I just want reviews backed up with data. Of course it doesn't hurt the host is easy on the eyes but no fault of hers.
This be some good flirting
You are wrong :(
still 256K soo far from 1M 😢
2:05 - Agree with you regarding the sticker - "Yeah, you should have 100% faith in our ability to make products which require nanometer precision, despite the fact that we were incapable of putting on a sticker correctly!"
Exactly. Show that you care about your product.
Sticker placement is within acceptable parameters. 🤓
Maybe the sticker is on an angle on purpose. Like all the kids these days needlessly using the Dutch Angle with every single photo they take.... /s
I got a WD Black SN770 and I love it's performance. I play indie games at 1440p, I edit video at 1080p using Davinci Resolve and for $59.99 for 1tb NVME Gen 4 I can't complain for it performance. Excellent information, I love the way how you provide us the nif and the video edition. I'm watching from the Dominican Republic.
Im glad for your experience in this SSD, I want to buy this ssd for edit 1080p video
5000 MB/s is middle of the pack. What a world in which we live.
You can read the entire drive in less than 4-7 minutes.
haha For real! I love it!
I just got a 2TB drive of this SN770 for 73USD. What a bargain! I used Macrium Reflect to migrate my System SSD to it and so far, everything works just as it was on the older drive i had, a SN750 500gb.
Mine had no sticker issues 😅😅
holy mother of inflation, in my country I can't get one for less than 137,5$
Just checked, the sticker was straight on mine. Disaster averted.
Too funny. And, when it arrives, I will have to report on the one that I ordered. 🤭
The stickers are placed by hand after being checked, love.
I was an avid Samsung fan since my first SSD, Samsung 830. Then bought 840, 850, 860 and afterwards went on NVME 970 EVO Plus and 980 Pro. My SATA drives still work perfectly, although I don't use them anymore. However, all my NVME went broke in less than a year and one in less than 6 months. Now I got the Western Digital SN 770 Gen 4 1TB and Crucial P3 Gen 4 1TB. I'm extremely happy with both. Heavy gaming, countless times reinstalled Windows 10 and 11 and thus far, zero problems. Let alone they're much cheaper, too. I got each for 44€ and 46€ respectively, only.
Never had any problems with all my Samsung SSDs for last 5+ years, only problem I've had is with a Intel SSD.
Quality of your videos and especially presentation is very good and still keeps improving! Thumbs up!
You don't go super deep into some aspects as to the complete 'why' of things, although your brief mentions to these things and my own (hopefully sufficient) knowledge does mean that i trust what you are saying, albeit with a caution of my own responsibility in the end. At least that's the vibe I'm getting of your videos and i like it!
groetjes uit Hengelo. :)
Appreciate you adding that little blurb about performance boost under Win 11 with the DDR5 Ram and the new 12900.
Something that no online testers seem to cover is use of M.2 drives in external enclosures. (I know there are many ready-made USB 3 devices but I like the dual use possibilities.) Consistency should be less of a factor, SLC cache performance might or might not be, power draw and thermal performance probably would be. I know the variables are numerous because of the plethora of enclosures out there, but ...
Please think about doing such a test; you'd have almost no competition with regard to viewers since this use case seems to be universally ignored.
Love your channel!
Właśnie kupiłem sn770 by zrobić z niego pendrive 1 TB bardzo dobrze się spisuje. Biorąc pod uwagę dzisiejsza cenę ten dysk w cenie 50 USD na Amazon nie ma konkurencji. Ale racja dobrze by było przetestować różne adaptery nvme bo nie które mają bardzo słaba wydajność w praktyce
@@mrbeckham666
Thanks for the feedback! Some time back, NVMe based USB 3.2 gen 2 drives were very reasonably priced on Amazon. I bought a number of them for both myself and family members. I have an SN770 and it works great in my computer. I'd not yet tried it in an external enclosure. The lack of a DRAM cache had worried me. It's nice to know that the SN770 doesn't fall flat in an enclosure.
I have to agree with that sticker placement criticism,
It's kind of like a work of art on the wall that isn't perfectly centred,
Not that it matters if it's in a pc,
Out of sight Out of mind as "They say",
The fast latency and lesser consistency might be use of exceptionally faster but smaller cache, (cache memory being a common component of fast NVME drives).
I thought it was thermal throttling.
That junk has no DRAM at all. It has "SLC cache", which means it just dumps everything into the cells and tries to sort things in idle cycles, which cuts its TBW down to 25% and causes speed drops.
i like the part where vault tec holds the NVME smiling
I've bought a few WD Black drives in the past, but since they got caught switching controllers in some of their drives, I've held off till I see some kind of "positive" change in their future products! The fact that they are hiding details like this tells me that they still haven't changed one bit. WD is a No-Go for me! 👎🤦♂️
well, just telling my experience, i bought their WD Green SSD on May 2021. within 4-5 months it's ssd health drop to 70%. this is just aweful. luckily still in warranty and I issued for RMA. yet, it took almost a month of solve the issue and end up by they replacing with the new unit. since then, i never want to use this brand again.
@@KikiDaily09 LOL then tell us WHAT BRAND should we use?? For every single brand there's someone saying it's absolute shit
Samsung is switching their controllers as well.
@@KikiDaily09 WD Green SSDs are slow and have poor endurance ratings. A check of the specs before you bought it would have revealed this.
But most people buy based on price alone. Then complain it's crap. It's a case of you get what you pay for.
@@KikiDaily09 you should have bought wd elements blue one not the green one.I have the blue.Its performance is pretty decent
For anyone wondering, I’m Currently using the sn770 for my ps5 and it works great. Can’t tell the difference between the internal ssd and the sn770
Price difference between 770 and 850 is marginal in my place. Which one should I get? 🤔
@@theyeshhh if the price isn’t a factor then I suggest you just get the 850.
But if you would rather not spend more money, then the 770 from my testing works perfectly. Nice and fast and I’ve had 0 problems.
@@fresco_dinero5155 thanks 👍
I was stoned a'f and accidentally purchased this for my PS5 from best buy fooled me because I swear it had a PS5 compatibility sign idk but I got it and put it in my PS5 with a third party heatsink and it's working lol
@@tucson2portland 😂😂
The sticker threw me off too! Haha. Nice video, keep it up.
Thank you for the review. I'm grabbing the 500 GB version today.
This sticker would drive me OCD crazy :D
I smell golden sample like what companies always do when they launch a new piece of hardware. Would love for you to revisit this drive later on when they are in shops for a while and see if they cheaped out on the flash memory
Oh, you already addressed it. Like you said, they do this switcheroo often. And they should be shamed accordingly.
Would make for a nice piece of evidence for a refund request. Doubt they'd risk the scandal.
Bait and switch is a criminal activity in any other industry but tech.These companies need to be charged accordingly, but too bad they pay a lot of political contributions. Years after the petition for the strict laws, our congress turned a deaf ear to consumers.
@@MandoMTL they already did and said "fuck you" to the costumers. It wouldn't be the first, and for sure not the last brand who will do this
@@klaymoon1 exactly, you wanna act like a no good criminal piece of shit. You should be treated like it. So when a company does this, without a good explanation, hold them accountable. As it's said here it's a budget ssd. A budget ssd that outperformed top line. That shit is fishy, and i can smell it miles away. Im going with golden sample for now. Time will tell if they go criminal.
Your video is what convinced me to go for it last year ..got the 1TB model for $45 (it costs more than 4x that price where i live, so that was definitely a steal 😎) ..i use it mostly for gaming and haven't encountered any issues whatsoever which made me want to buy the 2TB version today for my first build and i manage to get it for $85, which i think is another steal! 😁 ..as far as price/performance, i think its one of the best NVME SSD you can get at the moment!
So, a year late, but thank you very much for this very professional and informative video! 😀
P.S: the sticker on the 1TB model came perfectly alligned 🙃😅..hopefully the 2TB will follow suit, but if it doesn't, i'll still keep it!😋
Thanks for the early review as I only even learned about this SSD through tech site press releases today! One thing I would like to see added to your testing, if possible, is something which specifically benchmarks 4k random performance (even something simple like Crystal Disk Mark). While most modern SSDs do seem to be limited by NAND more than anything else in these tests it can still be an important variable for use case.
Assuming nothing changes with the hardware of the drives this sounds like it could be really good as a secondary drive for games etc. I currently use a pair of 1tb SATA SSDs for most of my games and all local storage with my OS and select games being on my NVMe drive.
the video looks and sounds so professional, i just bought the 250gb capacity version and hope it allows my pc to run much faster considering the only drive i'm using rn is a hdd which i've heard are miles slower than an ssd. video was very nicely put together, you just got a new sub
Thanks! And i would do a clean reinstall on the new SSD. It should feel waaay more responsive!
Very good quality review, thx ! But I may regret getting a SN850 not long ago now! 😉
Oh? Thank you for a comprehensive dive into this drive. It is on a "I ought not to pass up on this" sale price on NewEgg in Canada. Due to not being a gamer, well, unless we count MS Solitaire,😊it's perfect for my needs. Thanks again.
I really admire your talent to make short but effective videos. Always on point with the most important information about relevant products.
I got this drive 2TB for $80. I keep watching reviews to see what the catch is but the more I watch the more I’m sold on it. Was planning to get a 1TB SN850x as my main but at this point I might just keep this.
Can't really argue with that value at $80
Given that this has no DRAM cache, is it still recommended to use this as an OS/boot C: drive?
Keen to know too, currently am looking out for a 2TB for OS,
Crucial P5+ $135
WD SN770 $118
Crucial P3+ $125
Crucial P3 $97
Any kind advice on which is more suitable and worthed?
Ten dysk ma topową wydajność praktycznie nic mu nie brakuje. Nie ma sensu dopłacać do droższych
I'm with you on the wonky sticker! ... Little things like that bug me too! ... I'm a bit of a perfectionist, but I'm mellowing slightly as I get older, and I'm trying to be more accepting of life's little imperfections .. and wonky stickers! 🤣
That sounds more like insecurity than a cope - coming from personal experience.
Set looks dope!
Nice and cheap!
The sticker that is not straight, adds to the cheapness and I like it XD
You guys are awesome 👌 this is the last thing I'm looking at buying for a build
WD recently stepping up their game. Plenty of nice choices. Great to hear. Thanks Techtesters for review.
DRAM-less is going to be great for longevity
They didnt have longevity issues tho.... A drive MUST have dram. This is in the same boat as a WD-Blue drive now, and not a real option for a system.
WD: Removes the D-ram chip and sells it at the same exact price of previous model WITH the D-Ram "wow they really stepped it up" ............bro what XD
Please include the Crucial P5 in future performance comparisons.
Should be coming :)
This ssd works surprisingly well on my ps5 tbh.
I've never managed to put a sticker on straight in my life... Maybe I can get a job there?
Lol...well since the sn770 is new you could possibly be employed for quite some time.
This SSD is completely fine for PS5, it's only a fraction not even a second slower than the original one. There's actually a pretty good test here on TH-cam.
Hello from Canada!!! Great Review of the WD770. I'm very interested in this drive for my main Gaming RIG, but I did happen to see what exact memory chip and controller your test unit had in the description. Would be greatly appreciated to have that knowledge before making a buying decision.😀😀😁😁
So regarding using it for consoles, I don't recommend it as PS5 at least, most probably XsX also don't support HMB, which is crucial in performance consistency metrics over time.
HMB in essence uses PC RAM as Cache instead of the NVME drive needing DRAM cache on it's own.
The consequences of that is when the buffer overloads at above 337GB of transfer, your Sequential Speed plumets from 5000 Mb/s down to 500 Mb/s, still faster than SATA but a lot slower than nvme drives with dedicated DRAM cache on board like WD SN850 or Samsung 980 Pro, which after 5-10 minutes of Sequential Writes still continue at over 1.5Mb/s.
So basically when transfering ton of games from PS5 integrated storage to Nvme drive it will take you 1/3 the time or at worse half the time when compared to storage without DRAM like SN770.
You realise, about 1/100 people will transfer more than 337 gigs of games at once? And you only need to do it once! Once the games are on the drive it's all READS
@@Neosin1
Yeah that is still 66% faster, if you transfer 700gb or 7 games.
So you realise, this information is important depending on the price difference.
That can be a big difference of couple hours faster.
Even with 1 game that can be done a lot faster.
Basically in most of EU SN770 cost almost as much as SN850, so obviously SN850 would be a better choice.
Just this week SN850 1TB was going for 94EUR and 2TB for 180EUR.
While SN770 was going for only couple EUR cheaper.
@@KryssN1 You are totally right and im so happy to see someone else make a point of it. The SN 750 used Dram. It was the same price. Now, this NEW 770 is a standard garbage d-ram less drive, and shouldn't be considered for any reason. There ARE options as the same price with d ram, so there is no selling point, its just a bad drive. Such a shame considering the SN 750 was my go to recommendation for a drive.
The small details are just as important as the bit ones.
I agree about the sticker. That would drive me crazy lol
Agreed, especially if you have pc hw OCD.......like myself
i love your sticker rant but i totally agree with you
Great video I bought this drive in the black Friday sales this year and I've yet to test it out, I'm planning on pairing it with an RTX 4070 12gb but I'm waiting for the January sales to see what happens after nvidia announce their new rtx super cards. I also have an msi Pro B650-S WiFi motherboard and a ryzen 7600 cpu
getting mine this week !
Thank you for answering my question regarding a PS5 upgrade. I was so hoping this was the value drive I’ve been looking for…but nope. 😢😢😢
You may already know but there’s a few comments on this video from fellow ps5 owners who said it’s working for them. What did you end up going with?
I hope it works for ps5 bcz I just order today
Keep up the good work :)
Now WD will substitute the modules with cheaper stuff and sell under the same name. That’s what WD does. Just because it gets a good benchmark, don’t think you will get the same performance.
@NYC Person Samsung did that with the 970 EVO Plus too.
@@kennywhiddon1497 Many companies did and are still doing it.
@@kennywhiddon1497 Samsung made more of a "lateral" change as shown by several reviews (more possible reason due to chip shortages), whereas WD and some others got caught downgrading their drives after reviews
Make a good name selling drives with d-ram, then REMOVE the dram and quote faster speeds under the exact same model LOL. Never recommending WD again.
Basically WD’s flash array architecture is better than anyone else, it’s called BICS 5 here, was BICS 4 for the SN850 and with less NAND layers it beats B47R or Samsung’s V-NAND easily
The sn770 has the newest WD nvme flash, BiCS5. The sn850 is using BiCS4.
This is probably at least part of the reason for the sn770's shocking real-world performance and latency with only four channels.
For this reason, at this time I think people should put off buying the sn850 at its current pricepoint, because it may soon be leapfrogged by an upgraded version with BiCS5, which will blow away the current sn850 if the performance jump from sn750 to sn770 is any indication.
If you need an SSD now, I wouldn't wait, there is always something better "soon".
But a SN850 upgrade could really destroy the competition, that's for sure :)
xpg s70 blade best budget gen 4 drive.... dont know why people dont cover this one more
WAIT... so does the SSD not look like it does on the packaging with the full length black sticker?! Why would you put an image on the product box that is not representative of the product?
Love your videos. My favourite pc tech channel 👍
Really enjoying content and presenting style. Here in the UK on Amazon there has seems to be a push on Integral SSD's but i've struggled to find any useful information on them. Is that a brand you might have time to look into?
I’d want to return it over that sticker 😂
currently am looking out for a 2TB for OS,
Crucial P5+ $135
WD SN770 $118
Crucial P3+ $125
Crucial P3 $97
Any kind advice on which is more suitable (DRAM vs DRAMless, using 2*DDR5 4800mhz 16gb) and worthed?
*Great review!*
Thank you - very informative
With so many different brands of ssd,its pretty hard to choose which one to buy.I guess it will depend on the budget of the users and what task they do.
1st priority TBW to size, 2nd priority must have DRAM, 3rd priority speed. Not really hard.
Just picked up the 2tb version for £145. Absolute bargain for what this drive is capable of :D
As long as you have a high-end rig, absolutely!
@@TechTesters Only on DDR4 for now :( It'd be interesting to see a video on the difference between DDR4 Vs DDR5 with these DRAM-less SSDs, not much out there about it.
Just snatched it for 142 eur myself :p, will use it with ddr4 as well until Zen 4 3d releases probably.
@@superior96 Very nice purchase! The prices dropped even further after I bought it, amazing value 👍
Lucky for you at Malaysia that cost me 1000 myr which is around 225 USD . That's somebody a month salary 😅
Thinking of getting for a laptop.
4:33 - I would like to assume that the latency of the SSDs is measured in nanoseconds and not milliseconds, right?
It should be microseconds. 😬 good catch though, thanks! I’ll fix the graphs for next time!
Is SN770 good for gaming or should I go for SN850x, if its a small difference I prefer the cheaper SN770. Does DRAM makes a great difference in performance?
Is this a good buy for laptop considering the temps!
Is this good enough for running Virtual Machines? Or should I go with 980 pro?
This drive dosnt even have Dram, this is apples and oranges to a nice drive like a 980 pro. 980 for SURE.
@@andrewlewis5251 980 doesnt have DRAM too.
@@jerwinj2397 LOL dude doesn't know what he's talking about whatsoever. Just hating for no reason.
Can you test this on a actual PS5 please? with different games, and compare with different drives or maybe the internal SSD?
It's currently very difficult to evaluate the real world performance difference between different drives on the PS5, given the lack of games which utilizes the specs of the PS5s SSD to it fullest. To me, the 5.5 GB/s read speed seems like a bit of Overkill from Sony, especially since the Xbox Series X gets by just fine with less than half of that!
It's been tested with much slower drives and the difference isn't apparent. Until games come along that makes it an issue, no point testing
Lol my sticker was on straight 😊
Excellent, thorough video, love it! Do you sometimes use content creation benchmarks like Blender and Resolve for real world performance applications? Subscribed
What do you recommend between sn770 and XPG gammox s70 blade. I want to use it as my arounder kind of drive. 😂
Me too
What u mean heavy duty or task? Can u explain me? Something like 3D modeling? Autocad 3D ? or multitasking?
Another reason to not choose this for use in a PS5 is that much like the SN750SE this is a DRAM-less drive, which Sony aren't recommending because the PS5 doesn't support HMB.
What's HMB?
@@ShadowMKII Host Memory Buffer. It's a technology that allows an NVMe SSD to use a portion of the main memory of the host computer as a cache.
@@SteelSkin667 Woah! Very cool! I have never heard of that before.
Thanks for replying. :)
Nobody should be recommending Dram-less drives for anything anyway. Seriously.
@@andrewlewis5251 It really depends, as the downsides of DRAM-less drives are much less with NVMe drives than with SATA or AHCI drives. That is of course as long as your system supports HMB, which is the case of Windows and Linux.
Most low- and mid-range NVMe drives on the market are DRAM-less, and if you are buying a 2230 M.2 SSD to put in a laptop or Steam Deck it is pretty much guaranteed to be DRAM-less as well - as are the ones that come in the Steam Deck by defaut for that matter.
I got it for like 60 bucks for the 500gb version so i ain't complaining
The Sn-750 was also only 60$.....But it actually had Dram and was a good drive.....
If SN850 and SN770 are at the same price I'm better off with Sn770 as main drive? Seems better overall in your review.
Sn850 is on sale on Amazon for U$270 for 2tb.
Great but very difficult question! The SN770 looks better for most light/medium cases, and the SN850 is better for heavy work and PS5 use.
My only concern is how the SN770 will do on an older system, as it uses HMB so it benefits from a fast test system. Something we're looking into right now! :)
@@TechTesters oh, great. Thanks for answering. The sn850 was tested on the same system?
I myself have a 3700x with x570 and ddr4, so I might go with sn850 just in case.
It is interesting that the price difference between this and the green SN350 is very small, but the
SN350 has a scary bad endurance figure (100 TBW for the 2TB). Yes, you read that right, 12 times lower than the SN770.
Definitely don't buy the SN350. Decent SSDs are usually barely more expensive.
I might use this for storage a Linux drive and one for gaming as it shouldn’t be a bad choice for it
Is it an issue that this doesn't have dram? Would it be a noticeably worse boot drive than an sn850x?
Bought the 500GB drive. VERY fast !
For some reason in Romania the Corsair MP600 (not core or Pro) is the best priced 2tb Gen 4 SSD
Nada is the most beautiful woman here in Holland. Hands down👏 Still loving my corsair mp 600. Keep up the great work you guys and stay safe.
She is a Serb living in the Netherlands...
I was like "Ok, you're being pretty pedantic about the sticker." But then every time the SSD was on screen, all I could see was the horribly crooked sticker placement...
that.... doesn't that seem kinda odd that the idle tempurature is... warmer than i expected
i have it on my ASRock Z370 Extreme4
and the wd black sn 770 is not seen on the bios
the samsung 980 and PNY 500 GB XLR8 CM3031 are working in the bios can you help
Good performance and I don't think it even has dram
It does not, correct. I'm preparing a follow up video to explain why, and how your own system might affect it ;)
in short, is the product good?
very good
I Would wanna purchase this,but i don´t know if i would need a heatsink for the ssd since im on a laptop (Omen 15) and donnt know how to check if my laptop can use this item for extra storage. Also I don´t if this will prefrom very well for gaming,since i sometimes game up to 6to 10 hours a day. So if you have video´s on this topic or can explain it this to trough yt than that would be a great help. (Games: call of duty modern warfare 2,gta5,fortnite,red dead redemtion 2,...)
I'm thinking about the same rn, i have a legion slim 5.
Did u buy this ssd and used it without a heatsink or chose a different one?
@@useless1 I did not buy this this One bought another from crucial that was on sale (I don't really remeber Witch One)
But i just got the ssd without a heatsink and I have no problems so far
HMMM can't decide. this or kc3000? i mostly do coding and gaming and CAD design. no long read/write unless i'm writing big files, but.... hmmmmm
More algoritme comment and timing of this SSD is great after the big roundup.
just got the WD_BLACK SN770 1TB, M.2 2280, NVMe SSD, Gaming Drive, Gen 4 PCIe, Read speeds up to 5150 MB/s on sale 71 pounds hoping for good performance fingers crossed my old fire cuda 510 bit the bullet so this video give me some idea kinda sounds like the 770 is in the middle of the road or even maybe ?
sabrent 2 tb q4 for $200; what's the comparison? msrp on this @ same capacity for $269? is 400mb/s extra really worth an extra $70; me thinks not
please make review on colorful ssds
Im using it as a secondary drive, storing steam games on it since I ran out of room. Im running games from it as a secondary drive and noticing some stuttering and long load times.
Mine doesn't let me use the last 500 GBS of the drive u having the same issue?
Thumbs up for the sticker remark🤣🤣
thorough review as always. but i imagine if the sticker is plastered on manually at the factory it would be tough to do it perfectly straight, as they would probably be doing 20 per minute.
Why the heck would you they do it manually?
Good job, your sincerity is appreciated, in my opinion I think the best m.2 pci4 is the Samsung 980 pro, what do you think... thanks
This drive is nothing compared to a 980 pro. This is a low quality drive.
Should I use this 1TB as a external drive in Asus rog Arion?
The fastest budget nvme ssd rn for me is literally the kc3000 1tb at the price of SGD139 (Around USD97)
Kc3000 is excellent if you can get it for a good price!
Bad ssd, no dram, low TBW.
@@HECKAKYH-ADEKBATEH It does have dram, and compared to Samsung it's still higher, with its speed as well
I totally agree on the sticker thing. No matter how expensive the thing is, if the sticker isn't straight, it makes me sad
😎👊
The sticker on my SN750 SE is also on crooked lol
Do you have any comparison between this and s70 blade? The s70 blade is about 20$ cheaper and I've been wondering if it performs better than thr SN770
No S70 Blade yet, hopefully soon.
Dram? Please explain if this matters. I heard this causes problems for mapping. I'm not sure if corporation jargon marketing is really true about using ram/CPU really helps (and if it does...is it a good idea).
Do not consider ANYTHING that does not use Dram! Dram is what separates low quality drives from the high quality drives. I would recommend watching the LTT video on the importance of D-ram, it really drives the point home.