@RJsKnives these are important life questions. You have no fear to expose biases and ask the really tough questions. Will we turn to the light (trapper) or follow the dark side ( Moose 🫎). 😃😆🤣😂
I really like the Moose pattern. I first became interested in the pattern when I read WOODCRAFT AND CAMPING,written by Nessmuk (George W Sears) in 1884. Nessmuk carried a Moose equal end cigar folder for wood carving and light camp work. There's a drawing of his knife in the book and it looks a lot like the Rough Ryder Tater Skin Micarta Moose that you have in your video. I have a few Moose knives. My favorite is a Case Bonestag Moose made on the 75 frame, the same as my beloved Case large Stockman.
I have been keeping an eye out for one of the Case 75 Moose knives. It sounds fantastic. I’m going to see if I can find a copy of Nessmuk’s book. Thanks for all the information!
Thanks, RJ, for a great #TwoForTuesday (then other examples) compare/contrast/opine on these two classic traditional patterns. My favorite comment you made concerning these two knives are the differences in brands and the way they treat swedging on their blades. While I luv the looks of a swedge ... depending on how they are machined, they are also the "primary culprit" when it comes to hot spots from multiple-bladed knives. Your Case trapper is easy to use and handle because of both the lack of swedging and/or stock thickness removal on the top of the blades. My most recent example of this issue (unfortunately) is the recent release of the Rosecraft Briarpatch Jack ... awesome-looking, dual-bladed knife, but ... lil' rough on the semi-callused hands due to the swedge-machining / stock removal. I find the full-size trapper the most-comfortable knife to use/carry over both the moose/muskrat models I've handled.
You’re right, Byron. Sometimes things like swedging is overdone. That’s the difference between a designer vs. a user. And the full size trapper is a very comfortable knife to use. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Maybe this winter when your grass is dormant we can get you on the live show.
Great video! I got my 1st Trapper a few months ago, orange Rough Ryder, & was pleasantly pleased it was larger than I thought. I don't yet have a Moose, but I'm sure I'll acquire one soon enough. Thanks for sharing RJ! 😺⚔️👍🏻
Thank you for sharing these with us. I’ve never heard of a moose knife before, but I also never heard of a muskrat before until A-TRAIN that’s 865 OG had Shared one with us. Thank you for sharing this. God bless you and your family.
The Moose pattern is one of many knife patterns based on an equal end cigar shaped knives. The Cattle knife has numerous related knives from camp knives to smaller penknives. Trappers have more variations in sizes and blades making them popular over a large group of knife models and brands than the Moose pattern. Having blades opening from both ends can provide a slimmer design and enables using thicker stronger blades. The pivot pins fit closely to both blades from each end, adding strength to the blades and single brass liner. The Muskrat uses the same build as a Moose without a center brass liner that provides the added strength to a smaller built knife.I like Trappers but there are reasons to like a Moose not always mentioned.👍🤔
I'm a fan of both patterns, but the trapper is one of my top three favorites. And I've got alot more of them than I have of the moose, though I would like to get a few more moose pattern knives. I really like the large spey blades on both patterns when I'm out hunting, for skinning and even field dressing sometimes. Cheers, buddy!
Great set of knives. The Spay blade on the Moose, I believe, would be better for skinning (and other general tasks) then the traditional Spay on the Trappers. Except that long swedge would wear on the finger after a while. Moose and Squirrel. Thanks for reminding me how old I am. 😅
You’re welcome and I hope it brought back some good memories! The spay on the moose is a terrific blade shape, no doubt about it being useful. Thanks Pocket_EDC!
Theoretically a moose could be as thin as a trapper but yes, the extra pivot will make it heavier by default. And by handle shape, the jack config allows you to get more consistent comfort. Is there any advantages to the moose beside aesthetic preference? I guess if there were contaminants that affected one pivot you would still have the other side. Great topic, thanks for entertaining it RJ.
I was hoping you would like the video. They are both great patterns. It really comes down to what you like. No wrong answer. Thanks for the topic, it was fun. If you have any other ideas, let me know, I just might do a video on it. Thanks Christoph!
@@christophwilhelm6431 I’m a mess! My storage area is a four drawer rolling tool cabinet. And i hope I never make anyone feel inadequate. We all started with a single knife.
@@RJsKnives In the world of modern knives and super steels I admire a bloke that dedicates to classic bone covered slip joints. Inadequate was a joke although it can also be motivation. If it will take more than 40 minutes to organize I'd say don't worry about it.... but it would also indicate what you're dealing with😏
@@christophwilhelm6431 it will be a someday video. As for modern knives, I still look at them but haven’t carried one in a year or more. The traditional knives have my heart and work for me. And they look a lot cooler than the modern ones.
I like the case moose over the trapper. I like the stockman clip and the full Spey combo and I like the opposite end design with nail nicks on opposite sides so the secondary not half hidden 👍👊💯
I sent a picture with a display case full of nine Case knives to HT. I asked him which one this Canadian should buy, I personally like the Copperlock and the Trapper, HT chose the Amber Bone Canoe. They are 150 dollars here in Canada. I guess I have a decision to make, Which would you choose? Great video my friend, I’m so envious of all of your collections.👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
I think the Copperlock or Trapper would be my first choice. The copperlock is nice and slim and a nice carry. The trapper is a good all around knife. Canoes sell for a premium down here so that’s going to be the same there. At the end of the day, it’s your budget and your choice. You can always go back in the future for the others you would like to collect. Hope this helps.
Great comparison Rod! yah That moose is awesome but it is a chunk. Id take a Case Trapper anyday. love that orange mini trapper! I Like the idea of them puttin the mini clip point shape on a fullsize! Oh yes Rocky an Bullwinkle!!!!!! I am old. Thank you for sharing Brother!
The idea of that mini clip point upsized to a full trapper would really be awesome. I like the clip on those mini trappers. You need an orange mini trapper. They are calling, lol! Thanks Andrew!
To be honest with you, i have no clue how either one would feel. I have never owned either one of them. Trapper or the Moose. Sorry. Sweet looking knives though.
Neat little comparison 👌 😊
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you, Michael!
@RJsKnives these are important life questions. You have no fear to expose biases and ask the really tough questions. Will we turn to the light (trapper) or follow the dark side ( Moose 🫎). 😃😆🤣😂
@@rasputinscastle 😆🤣😁
Great comparison, I'm more a trapper person. Thanks for sharing RJ, be safe.
Yes, I’m more a trapper guy myself. Thanks James!
Very cool comparison! Great video RJ 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, Jeremy! Thanks!
I really like the Moose pattern. I first became interested in the pattern when I read WOODCRAFT AND CAMPING,written by Nessmuk (George W Sears) in 1884. Nessmuk carried a Moose equal end cigar folder for wood carving and light camp work. There's a drawing of his knife in the book and it looks a lot like the Rough Ryder Tater Skin Micarta Moose that you have in your video.
I have a few Moose knives. My favorite is a Case Bonestag Moose made on the 75 frame, the same as my beloved Case large Stockman.
I have been keeping an eye out for one of the Case 75 Moose knives. It sounds fantastic. I’m going to see if I can find a copy of Nessmuk’s book. Thanks for all the information!
I personally like the Full Size Trapper better. But everyone has their favorite. Thanks for sharing and GOD Bless.
I’m with you. And it’s just personal preference and experience. Thanks Stan and God Bless!
Thanks, RJ, for a great #TwoForTuesday (then other examples) compare/contrast/opine on these two classic traditional patterns. My favorite comment you made concerning these two knives are the differences in brands and the way they treat swedging on their blades. While I luv the looks of a swedge ... depending on how they are machined, they are also the "primary culprit" when it comes to hot spots from multiple-bladed knives. Your Case trapper is easy to use and handle because of both the lack of swedging and/or stock thickness removal on the top of the blades. My most recent example of this issue (unfortunately) is the recent release of the Rosecraft Briarpatch Jack ... awesome-looking, dual-bladed knife, but ... lil' rough on the semi-callused hands due to the swedge-machining / stock removal. I find the full-size trapper the most-comfortable knife to use/carry over both the moose/muskrat models I've handled.
You’re right, Byron. Sometimes things like swedging is overdone. That’s the difference between a designer vs. a user. And the full size trapper is a very comfortable knife to use. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Maybe this winter when your grass is dormant we can get you on the live show.
Great video! I got my 1st Trapper a few months ago, orange Rough Ryder, & was pleasantly pleased it was larger than I thought. I don't yet have a Moose, but I'm sure I'll acquire one soon enough. Thanks for sharing RJ! 😺⚔️👍🏻
I’m glad you like your trapper! RR makes some good ones. Thanks Stacy!
I have an RR mini moose 🫎 and i like it. The mini's don't eat as much as a regular size Moose.
My current favorite is a Case mini Trapper Wharncliffe.
I love that configuration. I definitely want to get one for a user. My mini trapper like that is the Army commemorative.
That’s for sure! And the big ones are dangerous!
Thank you for sharing these with us. I’ve never heard of a moose knife before, but I also never heard of a muskrat before until A-TRAIN that’s 865 OG had Shared one with us. Thank you for sharing this. God bless you and your family.
They are interesting patterns with a lot of history. Aaron is the Godfather of the Muskrat Mafia. Thanks Shawn, God bless you and yours!
Excellent review Rod
Thank you, Terry!
The Moose pattern is one of many knife patterns based on an equal end cigar shaped knives. The Cattle knife has numerous related knives from camp knives to smaller penknives. Trappers have more variations in sizes and blades making them popular over a large group of knife models and brands than the Moose pattern. Having blades opening from both ends can provide a slimmer design and enables using thicker stronger blades. The pivot pins fit closely to both blades from each end, adding strength to the blades and single brass liner. The Muskrat uses the same build as a Moose without a center brass liner that provides the added strength to a smaller built knife.I like Trappers but there are reasons to like a Moose not always mentioned.👍🤔
Thanks Gizmo for the specifics on the construction of these knives. Definitely reasons for me to get a few more models to try out. Muskrats too!
I like em both but the Trapper is "just right."
I agree. Thanks Mo!
I'm a fan of both patterns, but the trapper is one of my top three favorites. And I've got alot more of them than I have of the moose, though I would like to get a few more moose pattern knives. I really like the large spey blades on both patterns when I'm out hunting, for skinning and even field dressing sometimes. Cheers, buddy!
Yes, those Spey blades will definitely work for skinning game. I haven’t given up on the moose, I need a few more. Thanks David!
thanks for shwoing these
You’re welcome, Kathleen!
Great set of knives. The Spay blade on the Moose, I believe, would be better for skinning (and other general tasks) then the traditional Spay on the Trappers. Except that long swedge would wear on the finger after a while. Moose and Squirrel. Thanks for reminding me how old I am. 😅
You’re welcome and I hope it brought back some good memories! The spay on the moose is a terrific blade shape, no doubt about it being useful. Thanks Pocket_EDC!
Theoretically a moose could be as thin as a trapper but yes, the extra pivot will make it heavier by default. And by handle shape, the jack config allows you to get more consistent comfort.
Is there any advantages to the moose beside aesthetic preference? I guess if there were contaminants that affected one pivot you would still have the other side.
Great topic, thanks for entertaining it RJ.
I was hoping you would like the video. They are both great patterns. It really comes down to what you like. No wrong answer. Thanks for the topic, it was fun. If you have any other ideas, let me know, I just might do a video on it. Thanks Christoph!
@@RJsKnives How about a video on your storage area to make your subscribers feel inadequate😪😜
@@christophwilhelm6431 I’m a mess! My storage area is a four drawer rolling tool cabinet. And i hope I never make anyone feel inadequate. We all started with a single knife.
@@RJsKnives In the world of modern knives and super steels I admire a bloke that dedicates to classic bone covered slip joints. Inadequate was a joke although it can also be motivation. If it will take more than 40 minutes to organize I'd say don't worry about it.... but it would also indicate what you're dealing with😏
@@christophwilhelm6431 it will be a someday video. As for modern knives, I still look at them but haven’t carried one in a year or more. The traditional knives have my heart and work for me. And they look a lot cooler than the modern ones.
I like the case moose over the trapper. I like the stockman clip and the full Spey combo and I like the opposite end design with nail nicks on opposite sides so the secondary not half hidden 👍👊💯
I will have to track down the Case version. I only have the RR versions of the moose. Thanks Driver 38!
Both great patterns, but I think I'd pick the canoe hahaha.
In yellow delrin, probably! 🤣 Thanks Randy!
I sent a picture with a display case full of nine Case knives to HT. I asked him which one this Canadian should buy, I personally like the Copperlock and the Trapper, HT chose the Amber Bone Canoe. They are 150 dollars here in Canada. I guess I have a decision to make, Which would you choose? Great video my friend, I’m so envious of all of your collections.👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
I think the Copperlock or Trapper would be my first choice. The copperlock is nice and slim and a nice carry. The trapper is a good all around knife. Canoes sell for a premium down here so that’s going to be the same there. At the end of the day, it’s your budget and your choice. You can always go back in the future for the others you would like to collect. Hope this helps.
@@RJsKnives Thanks man, I’ll let you know what I decide.👍
Very nice video! Some nice looking knives! Love a trapper!
Me too! Thanks David!
Great comparison Rod! yah That moose is awesome but it is a chunk. Id take a Case Trapper anyday. love that orange mini trapper! I Like the idea of them puttin the mini clip point shape on a fullsize! Oh yes Rocky an Bullwinkle!!!!!! I am old. Thank you for sharing Brother!
The idea of that mini clip point upsized to a full trapper would really be awesome. I like the clip on those mini trappers. You need an orange mini trapper. They are calling, lol! Thanks Andrew!
@@RJsKnives the orange ones are always calling me Rod! I have white and a yellow delrin! Orange is the next step!
To be honest with you, i have no clue how either one would feel. I have never owned either one of them. Trapper or the Moose.
Sorry. Sweet looking knives though.
More stuff for you to consider the next time you need a new knife. Thanks Jeff!
@@RJsKnives that is true lol