Actually, now that I think about it... isn't Judau, the pilot of ZZ gundam, the reincarnation of Cosmo, who's piloting Ideon? This game involves a lot of Cross Gate shenanigans, good lord.
More likely Kamille tries to differentiate them in his mind, so Char appears as Quattro to him because that's how he wants to remember him. Just my two cents on this.
Camille will always see Char as Quattro, and always differently than Amuro, who has much more to hate Char for. Camille would see Char as more of his teacher, even after he learned who Quattro actually was.
Four isn't dead, and she is on your team. She was a secret character in Alpha 1, when the Zeta plot was covered, and the rest of the series continues as if you saved her.
I think the guy with the monocle is Hiroshi's (Jeeg) father. The guy with wings is Richter, enemy of Kazuya (Daimos) and brother of Erika, Kazuya's love interest. The guy with the horns is Hainel, the first enemy of the Voltes V team and brother of 3 of them.
Amuro, like Roy, is one of the main characters that SRW Alpha decided to save. Really, Amuro surviving the events of CCA is one of the LEAST contrived canon changes in SRW, and I can't think of one game where it doesn't happen. Char usually does too, at least in games where he remains a good guy.
1. They were unmanned 2. The message from Minmie and other people from your time (the events at the end the previous mission knocked the team thousands of years into the future). Their purpose was to boost morale, which they succeeded in doing with the help of the ghosts.
What is there to be confused about? Ingram never betrayed the SRX team and the others of his own will. Now he's encouraging them to fight the true threat. As for Cobray the two of them have a connection including Cobray's mech largely consisting of Ingram's Astranagant and Ingram spends much of the early game trying to take over Cobray's body before giving up and letting Cobray do what he wants.
According to the GameFAQ translation on RyuKoOh/KoRyuOh scenario, the stage is set around Earth 12,000 years into the future, similar to how GunBuster got home at the end of its series. The Ide did sent them back to their own time after Keiser Ephes been dealt with.
Yes, in which our heroes took the long route home and end up 12,000 years in the future. Though after Keiser Ephes was dealt with, Ideon sent them back to their own time.
Ingram tells the team to beat Keiser Ephes. Ryusei is amazed that he's seeing his former instructor. He had prepared them to beat the guy because he was under Yuuzes control and couldn't do so himself and that only got worse when he lost his body. He also apologizes for the stuff he did (like nearly killing Aya). Aya says it's okay now. Ingram then says he's "leaving the rest to her," which she accepts.
There is *nothing* that truly overrides Trombe. You can only drown it out with louder music. But Elzam needs only to destroy yours speakers, and then it is again time for TROMBE!
Ingram confirms that he was once the soul the resided in Cobrey (Cobrey never actually sees Ingram's face). Cobrey notes that Ingram doesn't exist in him anymore. Ingram says that's fine, as they aren't each other (despite being clones). He than says goodbye to Ingram, another person of himself. (note that this is rough translations; I'm probably mistaken on a few points)
@suchiuomizu Err... no. The official canon is that Ingram was convinced by Ryusei but disappeared after the final battle. Cobray's storyline is the only one which touches on what happened to him after that (Astranagant absorbed his body, Astranagant was severely damaged at some point during that time, etc.)
I laughed when Char appeared to Amuro as himself, then immediately after went as Quattro to Camille. Changing outfits and throwing on shades must be very easy in the afterlife.
The Char's Counterattack story came in Alpha 2. Except Amuro survived and Char did not. The team already had enough trouble with the government due to Blue Cosmos, it would be that much harder to not be seen as an enemy if Char was still around and on your team. Char dies no matter what you do. Though a non-cannon end to Alpha 2 would have Haman surviving and on your team. It is understandable that this game assumed you made the other choice and she and Char joined up instead.
Most of those characters died before Alpha 3. The Gundam characters all died in Alpha 2 (except Lalah who was dead before Alpha 1 even started, killed in the One Year War which was background to the Alpha series). Alpha 2 was also true for the Mazinger and Jeeg professors, Heinel and Richter and Musashi. Ingram died in Alpha 1.
Trieze is not alive, he died way back in Alpha 1 and is involved in the event. Zechs mentions his name near the end. There are number of characters mentioned that you don't see the dialouge for.
That one song that takes up most of the vid makes me think of Rai's theme, Baran doban's theme, and Brave sword braver soul from soulcalibur2, all smooshed into one big uber-pwnful song!
Roy never dies in the Alpha canon, despite doing so in Macross, Macross DYRL, AND Robotech. Super Robot Wars does that a lot, although going by this video, less than you'd expect in Alpha 3.
@RX93NuGundam I know this is kinda late but I think you should still know this: The song that Minmay, Lacus and Basara sang together was no other than the famous Nyan cat song.
The others Alpha 3 originals don't get anyone. But Team TD (only Selena's route) get to see Philio. Cobray has very good reason to get Ingram, the others don't really have much connection to dead characters from previous games.
Well, SRWR, true, but as you said, it gets immediately reversed, and once you go back you eventually stop Char from leaving the AEUG/Londo Bel in the first place. The other route is more amusing, since it's the Nadesico movie - Duminuss just says lol to that film's deus ex machina ending and starts killing everyone, then thankfully the Time Flow Engine kicks in and you go back and stop the film from ever starting (if only we could go back in time and stop it from being made.)
Alpha Gaiden has already got a fan translation (you will have look for yourself, I won't link to it) by the same group that did the SNES version of SRW3, and they still working other SNES games and Alpha 1
Never happens in SRW Reversal, where the main characters fights with Londo Bell and CCA did occur with Amuro and Char dying. However, Duminuss comes and something happens with the Time Flow Engine making the main char go back to the past or into another dimension and you meet Amuro from MSG. Another example would be the lack of CCA in SRW Destiny. Amuro not dying from CCA has occured less and less in the more recent times.
@Racsowar Really? Because you killed him obviously. Yes, Alpha 1 gave you the option to bring him back to your side in the last mission, but he is hardly the only secret character they left dead.
I thought the Ide fried itself with Keisar Ephes, and more importantly, how does Cobray subvert Ephes' As Long As There's Evil shtick if only the Ide can take him down?
Hey, would someone be willing to do a Fansub/Fandub of this game at the very least (I want to see/play Cobray's arc, Selena's arc, and Kusuha's arc), and more if they feel like it (the Entire Alpha Series, Advance Portable, OGS, and OGG to be precise)? If they do that, would they kindly post a link to a site where we can download everything (the original game converted to ROM, as well as the translation patch)? I ask this of any willing translation group viewing this clip and post. Thanks!!!
its hardly a secret. amuro and bright need 60 kills each and since amuro is the best gundam pilot there is, 60 kills is easy. bright may have a problem, but nearly all the ra kailum's weapons are map or all so its easier. of course, if u dont field them...
Thats impossible because he is a principal character in the game..come on its srw everything happen...this ists a good game but i still dont know how to play in this scenario...i
You know a good story is nearing its final, greatest climax when it bridges the gap between the living and the dead.
Anyone else find it funny that the spirit of Char basically did a quick costume change into Quattro when speaking to Amuro first then Kamille?
Actually, now that I think about it... isn't Judau, the pilot of ZZ gundam, the reincarnation of Cosmo, who's piloting Ideon? This game involves a lot of Cross Gate shenanigans, good lord.
That was in the dark grey of the Gundam Canon.
I think Char and Quattro are separate entities in games like these.
More likely Kamille tries to differentiate them in his mind, so Char appears as Quattro to him because that's how he wants to remember him. Just my two cents on this.
I agree. And Cobray should be making a grand appearance in the OG universe soon.
... and when will that "soon" be? 😵💫😵💫😵💫
There will never be another SRW game that surpasses Alpha 3...
Srw alpha 3 seems like a good game i would play it gives me z3 vibes
err..OG MD is still epic, but on par with @3, we have to wait for the final OG game
This scene is more epic if you can understand what they're saying.
No matter how many times I've seen this, it always gets my blood burning.
Camille will always see Char as Quattro, and always differently than Amuro, who has much more to hate Char for.
Camille would see Char as more of his teacher, even after he learned who Quattro actually was.
After playing SRW Z3. This game still is the BEST SRW yet.
Gerson Acevedo
Even better if Gundam Sentinel appears as Sunrise didn't give pressure.
Im still waiting this scene on OG...if it's really happen on OG.
@@heimanlee5955 imagine ALICE refusing Infinite Power and denouncing Keisar Ephes
Good thing music CAN be heard in space in the future apparently.
manly tears were shed
it's been more than 2 years since I finished @3, but this scene will remain forever in my heart
I hope for the day on that I can understand all the dialogue in a scene that seems to be the most epic thing ever witnessed
Four isn't dead, and she is on your team. She was a secret character in Alpha 1, when the Zeta plot was covered, and the rest of the series continues as if you saved her.
I think the guy with the monocle is Hiroshi's (Jeeg) father.
The guy with wings is Richter, enemy of Kazuya (Daimos) and brother of Erika, Kazuya's love interest.
The guy with the horns is Hainel, the first enemy of the Voltes V team and brother of 3 of them.
Amuro, like Roy, is one of the main characters that SRW Alpha decided to save. Really, Amuro surviving the events of CCA is one of the LEAST contrived canon changes in SRW, and I can't think of one game where it doesn't happen.
Char usually does too, at least in games where he remains a good guy.
1. They were unmanned
2. The message from Minmie and other people from your time (the events at the end the previous mission knocked the team thousands of years into the future). Their purpose was to boost morale, which they succeeded in doing with the help of the ghosts.
From what I can understand, other dead spirits appeared but were not shown. Examples were Natarle, Nicol and Kinryu.
What is there to be confused about? Ingram never betrayed the SRX team and the others of his own will. Now he's encouraging them to fight the true threat.
As for Cobray the two of them have a connection including Cobray's mech largely consisting of Ingram's Astranagant and Ingram spends much of the early game trying to take over Cobray's body before giving up and letting Cobray do what he wants.
According to the GameFAQ translation on RyuKoOh/KoRyuOh scenario, the stage is set around Earth 12,000 years into the future, similar to how GunBuster got home at the end of its series.
The Ide did sent them back to their own time after Keiser Ephes been dealt with.
Yes, in which our heroes took the long route home and end up 12,000 years in the future.
Though after Keiser Ephes was dealt with, Ideon sent them back to their own time.
Ingram tells the team to beat Keiser Ephes. Ryusei is amazed that he's seeing his former instructor. He had prepared them to beat the guy because he was under Yuuzes control and couldn't do so himself and that only got worse when he lost his body. He also apologizes for the stuff he did (like nearly killing Aya). Aya says it's okay now. Ingram then says he's "leaving the rest to her," which she accepts.
I am so happy I subsrcibed to your vids.
LAWL
I love how they made Char and Quattro into two different spirits!
There is *nothing* that truly overrides Trombe. You can only drown it out with louder music.
But Elzam needs only to destroy yours speakers, and then it is again time for TROMBE!
Ingram confirms that he was once the soul the resided in Cobrey (Cobrey never actually sees Ingram's face). Cobrey notes that Ingram doesn't exist in him anymore. Ingram says that's fine, as they aren't each other (despite being clones). He than says goodbye to Ingram, another person of himself.
(note that this is rough translations; I'm probably mistaken on a few points)
Ingram passing it to Cobray, as a Time Diver
so Cobray cant exist in this universe
they are drones, with huge space amplifiers to boost Minmay's sound level to 11 (million)
@suchiuomizu
Err... no. The official canon is that Ingram was convinced by Ryusei but disappeared after the final battle. Cobray's storyline is the only one which touches on what happened to him after that (Astranagant absorbed his body, Astranagant was severely damaged at some point during that time, etc.)
I laughed when Char appeared to Amuro as himself, then immediately after went as Quattro to Camille.
Changing outfits and throwing on shades must be very easy in the afterlife.
The Char's Counterattack story came in Alpha 2. Except Amuro survived and Char did not. The team already had enough trouble with the government due to Blue Cosmos, it would be that much harder to not be seen as an enemy if Char was still around and on your team.
Char dies no matter what you do. Though a non-cannon end to Alpha 2 would have Haman surviving and on your team. It is understandable that this game assumed you made the other choice and she and Char joined up instead.
Yes. Ephes can override Fire Bomber, but not Trombe!
Apparently the Crossgate have the ability to send you through Time and Space. Ideon somehow summoned one up.
3:46. Best of the dead characters... MUSASHIIIIIIII!
12000 years later, sounds can transmit through vacuum
When dead people starts to talking to the heroes, expect the bad guy to get f*cked up
Most of those characters died before Alpha 3. The Gundam characters all died in Alpha 2 (except Lalah who was dead before Alpha 1 even started, killed in the One Year War which was background to the Alpha series). Alpha 2 was also true for the Mazinger and Jeeg professors, Heinel and Richter and Musashi. Ingram died in Alpha 1.
Trieze is not alive, he died way back in Alpha 1 and is involved in the event. Zechs mentions his name near the end. There are number of characters mentioned that you don't see the dialouge for.
That one song that takes up most of the vid makes me think of Rai's theme, Baran doban's theme, and Brave sword braver soul from soulcalibur2, all smooshed into one big uber-pwnful song!
You know a song is badass when it summons the dead and cripples the final boss!!
this was a really glorious-feeling end
lets see how z3.2 stacks up soon
ChReNiC It didn't..Sadly
Gerson Acevedo yeah... they blew it
they didn't win
they didn't win the money
the money isn't theirs they didn't win the money
it sucked...
Roy never dies in the Alpha canon, despite doing so in Macross, Macross DYRL, AND Robotech. Super Robot Wars does that a lot, although going by this video, less than you'd expect in Alpha 3.
Good ending = KawoShin
@RX93NuGundam I know this is kinda late but I think you should still know this:
The song that Minmay, Lacus and Basara sang together was no other than the famous Nyan cat song.
The others Alpha 3 originals don't get anyone. But Team TD (only Selena's route) get to see Philio. Cobray has very good reason to get Ingram, the others don't really have much connection to dead characters from previous games.
Well, SRWR, true, but as you said, it gets immediately reversed, and once you go back you eventually stop Char from leaving the AEUG/Londo Bel in the first place.
The other route is more amusing, since it's the Nadesico movie - Duminuss just says lol to that film's deus ex machina ending and starts killing everyone, then thankfully the Time Flow Engine kicks in and you go back and stop the film from ever starting (if only we could go back in time and stop it from being made.)
Actually, that is the Gunbuster Ending. The one you're confused with were Gunbuster Final Fight.
Alpha Gaiden has already got a fan translation (you will have look for yourself, I won't link to it) by the same group that did the SNES version of SRW3, and they still working other SNES games and Alpha 1
Never happens in SRW Reversal, where the main characters fights with Londo Bell and CCA did occur with Amuro and Char dying.
However, Duminuss comes and something happens with the Time Flow Engine making the main char go back to the past or into another dimension and you meet Amuro from MSG.
Another example would be the lack of CCA in SRW Destiny.
Amuro not dying from CCA has occured less and less in the more recent times.
Koteshuin
and hes surprised to see the professor again.
@SunsetKlD Also reach the final stage with a turn count of 420 or less.
Consider that your team of incredible mecha helping to shove Axis back.
I'm talking about the OG games, not the anime.
5:11 did irui just open her eyes?
Like I said, I only read the RyuKoOh/KoRyuOh storyline. I'm not sure about the Cobray storyline.
Oh, and not the guy with the monocle, the guy with the glasses.
Hey Sunset, any idea what the special OG thing is about after completing the game with all main characters?
...No you don't, Hi-Nu is a secret. He may not have met the requirements. Or he may have put someone else in it/chosen not to use it.
HOLY CRAP, Ephes stopped Basaras song! 0_0
you get to play a special stage with all the Original present
sorry i was actually thinking of Zechs there, I keep mixing those two up....
Wait... If I remember correctly, Ideon can travel faster than light, but no way travel back to the past
@Racsowar Really? Because you killed him obviously. Yes, Alpha 1 gave you the option to bring him back to your side in the last mission, but he is hardly the only secret character they left dead.
Yes, but only with sound booster(Macross 7)
you just gave the exact reason for why he doesnt have hi-nu
ONE short! oh noes! well you can always use replay data and read FAQs!
Basara Nekki, the main character of Macross 7.
"Alpha gaiden translation" should give you the patch as the first result, I bought the game though so I never needed to bother looking for the ISO.
I thought the Ide fried itself with Keisar Ephes, and more importantly, how does Cobray subvert Ephes' As Long As There's Evil shtick if only the Ide can take him down?
LOTS OF QUESTIONS TIME.
Who is the guy with the brown hair and glasses?
And who are the two guys with wings and horns?
I actually thought of the bad ending, aka the Ideon ending. :P The bad ending wasn't the Gunbuster one, but the Ideon one.
Treize is alive and Coach is too shy to appear (lol)
@suchiuomizu Sorry for the question... But never played Alpha, im only playing Original Generation 1, in the GBA, (Im in Stage 33)
well there IS one thing........ANOTHER Trombe!
Hey, would someone be willing to do a Fansub/Fandub of this game at the very least (I want to see/play Cobray's arc, Selena's arc, and Kusuha's arc), and more if they feel like it (the Entire Alpha Series, Advance Portable, OGS, and OGG to be precise)? If they do that, would they kindly post a link to a site where we can download everything (the original game converted to ROM, as well as the translation patch)? I ask this of any willing translation group viewing this clip and post. Thanks!!!
Stupid question, but isn't Roy Fokker DEAD? Shouldn't he appear to Rick Hunter as well?
Created for the game or do they come from an anime?
Aside from Inui, are there differences between this and the normal ending, like does the Ide still help the good guys get back to Earth, etc.?
Gong Narase
he already did.
wait, y isnt amuro in the hi-nu? u get it for free and it comes upgraded with nu's upgrades...is it just for sentimentality reasons>
there is one thing that I'm confused about....what di ingram said when he talked to SRX team and cobray?
I dont have gun eden..in that scene😞
You didn't get the good ending then, which requires at least 57 out of 59 skill points and reaching the final stage in 420 total turns or less.
its hardly a secret. amuro and bright need 60 kills each and since amuro is the best gundam pilot there is, 60 kills is easy. bright may have a problem, but nearly all the ra kailum's weapons are map or all so its easier. of course, if u dont field them...
omg there is that event in final chapter....since i always beat final boss in one turn after it appear....i really dont know this event
I think this is only for units you had sortied.
Merging his mech with the SRX is not considred Grand?
So Cobray gets Ingram. What about the other @3 originals?
Get 57 or more skill points.
Trombe overrides God!?..........awesome
why did a group of excelions come just to be destroyed?
No it's the good ending.
1:35 & 3:32 All real robot & super robot turns into a real super saiyan robot
Us Sh In the end, Hot Blood is what really powers Robots!
Could you at least give me a hint as to where to search for it? Google Search Keywords, or something like that?
Thats impossible because he is a principal character in the game..come on its srw everything happen...this ists a good game but i still dont know how to play in this scenario...i
Question ... is this the one called Gunbuster ending
And why is it called that?
Where are Trieze and Coach?
@blackordus amen
gaint robot at 2:01 ?
also whats he saying?
hey how can you get the good ending? can you tell it to me?
I'm confused, is Minmay here dead?
They are all from anime. The only original there is Ingram (blue-haired guy).
I C...thanks....
but how will i know if i get 57 skill points?