Kishore Mahbubani: ASEAN Deserves a Nobel Peace Prize | Endgame #14

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
  • Founding dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, Kishore Mahbubani talks about the causes, consequences-and even danger- of plutocracy and the story of remarkable progress called ASEAN.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:19 Early Days & Education
    13:33 US-China Power Battle
    32:54 What Southeast Asia Can Do
    44:46 ‘The ASEAN Miracle’
    58:41 "You Can’t Stop Learning"
    1:08:30 Good Governance
    1:26:48 Future Hopes & Challenges
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ความคิดเห็น • 878

  • @gwirjawan
    @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Terima kasih sudah menonton..
    Bagaimana pendapat teman-teman mengenai pilihan narasumber dan format "full interview" di Endgame musim kedua ini?

    • @adammaulana8599
      @adammaulana8599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tambah subtitlenya pak, biar sekalian belajar bahasa inggris juga

    • @MrPawpaw78
      @MrPawpaw78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Saya lebih menyukai full interview Pak Gita. Lebih "dapat" pesannya dan narasumbernya menarik, menambah pandangan baru. Terima kasih Pak Gita :)

    • @Kiss_MyAss
      @Kiss_MyAss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      An awesome and enlightening interview! I was fixed to my handphone the whole of 93 minutes. As usual Prof Kishore was at his brilliant best!
      Why hasn't any Western leader come to Asia to learn from Asians? White supremacy attitude! Why is the US treating China as an enemy despite China only interested in trade and not spreading its political ideology, political system or meddling in the internal affairs of the US and other nations? White supremacy and US primacy! For the US, it is always a zero-sum game of "you're with me or you're against me". Behind that deceiving facade of "defending" democracy, freedom and human rights, USA is an imperialist fascist forcing many weaker nations to adopt its political system, "values", culture and Christianity. Many nations and societies have been destroyed by American government, CIA and their Western allies, resulting in human misery of Biblical proportion! United Nation should set up an independent tribunal to investigate the USA and its Western allies for genocides and crime against humanity! The world cannot continue to be blind and naive to the crimes against humanity by America!

    • @thomasegaprasetyo7888
      @thomasegaprasetyo7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Full interview is more excited Pak Gita.
      Karena pesan yang di sampaikan tidak terpotong dan tertunda.
      Serta pemilihan nara sumbernya adalah orang orang hebat di luar Indonesia. Sangat membuka wawasan tenntang dunia global.
      Terimakasih Pak Gita, semoga one day sy punya keberuntungan buat bertemu dengan Bapak

    • @danykurniawan12345
      @danykurniawan12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pebisnis Indonesia Pak

  • @GeryArdianOfficial
    @GeryArdianOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    "If you want to help a poor child anywhere, give them books, and give them a chance to read. then that sets the brain on fire, and then they progress." - Kishore Mahbubani. "52:43"

    • @nickiseb8910
      @nickiseb8910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You need a bit more than that.

    • @padmasariadiwidya1474
      @padmasariadiwidya1474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Mr Mahbubani for your inspiring insight. I learned so much.
      Stay safe, healthy and be happy always 👍👌✊
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @stayprepared2388
      @stayprepared2388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can Kishore be trusted ? after Kishore got kick out of Singapore NTU as dean together with China professor Huang and his wife both ban from entering Singapore forever by the ISA ( danger to Singapore ) Kishore dare to tell the truth ? is Kishore / George Yeo both traitors working for China ?

    • @AIPretendingToBeHuman
      @AIPretendingToBeHuman หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd start with food, water, a place to live, safety and then a cheap smartphone with free internet -- books are expensive, I'd rather have food.

  • @asiacuisine4869
    @asiacuisine4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Indonesia has great potential too. Hope Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and other ASEAN nations can progress well together.

    • @buildmotosykletist1987
      @buildmotosykletist1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they will develop their potential when they sort out their disputes and territorial invasions by the CCP.

  • @jasonnicholas5104
    @jasonnicholas5104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mr. Gita, what you are doing here is really impactful and helpful for Indonesian people, especially millennials. Please keep doing these podcasts to increase Indonesia's future generation knowledge and along with that for a better quality of human resources. Thank you, Mr. Gita.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Jason for the kind words.. 🙏🏽

  • @jaf7765
    @jaf7765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    As an old black American woman who is a huge fan of Kishore, thank you so much for this interview. Americans need to understand that there is a whole wide world outside of America!

    • @patrickx6940
      @patrickx6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      how can someone, no matter man or woman, black or white....., not be fan of Kishore ?

    • @lizijian1212
      @lizijian1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@patrickx6940 Narrow-minded, short sighted, self-righteous ones would not like Professor Mahbubani. And there is a lot of them, from USA and other places. Oh, by the way, I bet that the majority of them are white, old, and male.

    • @patrickx6940
      @patrickx6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lizijian1212 I think you would win that bet.

    • @milinlim5211
      @milinlim5211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lizijian1212 equates to male, pale and failed... 😂

    • @lizijian1212
      @lizijian1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@milinlim5211 Ha, a nicer way to put it!

  • @kurniasalim1453
    @kurniasalim1453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Bravo Pak. Prof. Kishore is one of the best public policy thinker and speaker in the world.

  • @meis
    @meis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Kishore is such a lovely person. His humility can be felt here in Malaysia. We need more Asian experts to voice out and represent us, the people of ASEAN. Majulah ASEAN dan terima kasih Gita.

    • @Scott020357
      @Scott020357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A culture of thousands years and human experience means something......

    • @Dianatavenner
      @Dianatavenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonSnow-pi6jb
      Look

  • @palmtree_
    @palmtree_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    32:32 Kishore: "Indonesia should carry out a study on how money has distorted the US political system..."
    A polite way to say that Indonesia is no different from US on becoming a plutocracy country.

    • @kopyorduren5835
      @kopyorduren5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      mana ngerti wong indon.
      lah pak gita saja lulusan muricunt dan akan mengikuti filosofi muricunt, yakni plutocracy.
      indo sdh mulai melangkah ke "dark age" dgn memainkan/memasukan agama islam ke politik

    • @gadgetgasspoll2923
      @gadgetgasspoll2923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kopyorduren5835 take beer 🍻

    • @kopyorduren5835
      @kopyorduren5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gadgetgasspoll2923 allan snackbar or allan akbar or ahmad akbar. 😃😄😀😆😁🤣😜😂

    • @minyoung823
      @minyoung823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know why ASEAN works? THE MEMBERS DO NOT MEDDLE WITH OTHER MEMBER'S POLITICS, ECONOMY, CULTURE, BELIEFS OR HOWEVER THEY WANNA RUN THEIR COUNTRY. Member countries do not impose their beliefs, their politics on others. So, lay off.

    • @kopyorduren5835
      @kopyorduren5835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minyoung823 asean is a JOKE, dude.

  • @KBProduction
    @KBProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    As an international relations student, this is the best insight ever from master Kishore

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As an IR student i have find his pov very refreshing and new. Western scholars keep repeating their old ideas with new rebranding talking from moral superiority.

    • @stayprepared2388
      @stayprepared2388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can Kishore be trusted ? after Kishore got kick out of Singapore NTU as dean together with China professor Huang and his wife both ban from entering Singapore forever by the ISA ( danger to Singapore ) Kishore dare to tell the truth ? is Kishore / George Yeo both traitors working for China ?

  • @stephen7yu
    @stephen7yu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    One of the most informative discussion I see recently, this deserves millions views rather than less than 30,000.

  • @soegengwijaya1563
    @soegengwijaya1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The best episode by far. Knowing him as the writer of Can Asians Think? One of my favorite book. Thank you Pak Gita for bringing him here.

  • @sharlinierizaputri7453
    @sharlinierizaputri7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Keren banget! Kali ini meskipun topik US-China nya dibawakan oleh seorang professor, tpi sangat relate sama generasi muda yang masa kecilnya jago main game monopoli tapi juga nonton anime jepang yang penuh wisdom, menghargai hal-hal kecil, penuh kerja keras, dan juga menghargai alam. Jadi apa yang disampaikan Bapak tentang plutocracy vs meritocracy, ini sebenarnya ada di alam pikiran kita kok. Saya benar-benar percaya era setelah covid ini adalah era wisdom. Era dimana negara timur yang memiliki akar kuat justru akan memimpin, termasuk Indonesia (kalau sudah bangun) 🤟🤟✌️✌️

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks, Sharlin! Optimis kita pasti akan segera "bangun",,

    • @sharlinierizaputri7453
      @sharlinierizaputri7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @botio botio iya bener kenapa ya kita dipaksa memilih semisal kotak atau bundar terus ujung-ujungnya “ketemu di tengah dengan alasan toleransi”. Padahal kalau ada satu melihat kotak, satu lagi melihat lingkaran, jawabannya kan bukan oktagon sebagai nilai tengah. Siapa tau ternyata jawabannya silinder, yg dari perspektif yg tepat dari samping terlihat kotak dan dari depan terlihat lingkaran 🤔

    • @ntznbgzt
      @ntznbgzt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharlinierizaputri7453 itu kenapa ngobrol itu penting, kita sering berdebat karena kurang ngobrol. bahkan kurang respect terhadap pendapat orang lain. kurang mampu berfikir multidimensi, karena pendidikan rata-rata memiliki pola yang tidak mengajarkan melihat dari beragam sudut pandang atau ilmu, bahkan cenderung satu arah dan kaku.

    • @tumpalsagala6258
      @tumpalsagala6258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wahh kak Eriza nonton juga, aku nonton kak Eriza 2 kali sebagai tamu di Endgame, semoga sukses selalu kak.

  • @meichlebowska7951
    @meichlebowska7951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It’s such great conversation, Hope more people can hear Kishore’s voice

  • @westwoodly
    @westwoodly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pak Gita you are brilliant too! Indonesia should be proud of you. I'm sure there are many more such people among the 267 million people in Indonesia. Wish Indonesia all the best to progress steadily and quickly too!

  • @LorinaInjoroweri
    @LorinaInjoroweri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    now I know this guy Kishore Mahbubani , now I am a fan of him. From Papua, Indonesia. i would buy his book and read. amazing interview

  • @wiwikdp1706
    @wiwikdp1706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It so embarrasing that I've only heard his name now. His thoughts are so briliant. Thank you so much for bringing him on the show pak Gita..

  • @briancousins3101
    @briancousins3101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Kishore is clear and candid in his observations and analysis. I hope his most recent book, HAS CHINA WON?, will be widely read internationally. But as a Canadian, I am discouraged that so many North Americans are either oblivious, ignorant or arrogant with respect to Asian experiences and ideas from which we can learn.

    • @maximme
      @maximme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sadly, this IS THE AGE OF STUPID,
      there is no way to reverse the trend...

    • @Scott020357
      @Scott020357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It doesn't matter, life goes on...... The good thing about Asians is they learn day by day. If a nation abandon their +50% people and give them no chance to learn, it will fall sooner or later!

    • @RonzigtheWizard
      @RonzigtheWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm Canadian too and it is embarrassing that even most of my friends and acquaintances have eaten the poison pill or American propaganda. Try as I may I can't seem to get through to them that China is not our enemy even after we kidnapped one of China's top citizens. Our Trudeau government has in a few short years managed to completely destroy our strong repitation as a peace keeper and peace maker and given us a reputation of a rogue state, and war monger.

    • @minyoung823
      @minyoung823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonzigtheWizard maybe that will happen if China stopped bulldozing its way in South China Sea and stealing islands they have no right of and were well within other countries EEZ?

    • @minyoung823
      @minyoung823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonzigtheWizard and JUST TO POINT OUT. CHINA DEFINITELY IS NOT PART OF ASEAN.

  • @bellybutton6138
    @bellybutton6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like and respect Kishore. And kudos to ASEAN. It is the most diversed grouping ever and yet despite all the differences (ethnicity, religious and economic), they manage to hold together all these years without firing any guns and killing each other like in the West.

    • @lisa.e5776
      @lisa.e5776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank goodness.

    • @stayprepared2388
      @stayprepared2388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can Kishore be trusted ? after Kishore got kick out of Singapore NTU as dean together with China professor Huang and his wife both ban from entering Singapore forever by the ISA ( danger to Singapore ) Kishore dare to tell the truth ? is Kishore / George Yeo both traitors working for China ?

  • @herul7788
    @herul7788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Pak gita, request hadirin jim rogers pak.
    Quotenya tentang asia:
    "If you were smart in 1807 you moved to london, if you were smart in 1907 you moved to new york, and if you are smart in 2007 you move to asia"

    • @fikrinoorazy4816
      @fikrinoorazy4816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mention the exact city of Asia in 2007 please.

    • @herul7788
      @herul7788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fikrinoorazy4816 what do you expect?

    • @fikrinoorazy4816
      @fikrinoorazy4816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herul7788 anywhere in Asia

    • @dhafakurniawan8166
      @dhafakurniawan8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fikrinoorazy4816 timor leste can do? its in Asia right

  • @burung81
    @burung81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    he is the only one that consistently calling US a plutocracy and that is spot on. American themselves keep thinking they are democracy.

    • @RonzigtheWizard
      @RonzigtheWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I like the way instead of calling China a Communist country he calls them a meritocracy. I've been trying to explain that to my friends but they have swallowed the poison pill or American propaganda and no amount of proof will change them.

  • @abrojosaputro
    @abrojosaputro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "You cannot stop learning."
    Starting season 2 with a bang. Definitely going to read The ASEAN Miracle after watching this. Thank you Endgame.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're very welcome!

  • @askpeterang
    @askpeterang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    These two gentlemen are really fascinating, it's a while since I can stay on a video for 90 mins (even top seller movies) but you keep me all the way. I have been a fan of Prof Kishore for a while and this is one of his most relaxed and 'open' interviews. Everything he said is spontaneous and so wisely delivered. Pak Gita is another wise man for me to follow too. Excellent work!

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  • @georgecherian6520
    @georgecherian6520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Excellent interview. It is interesting to hear about the two opposite views of governing by China (meritocracy) Vs the US (Plutocracy). China will never be westernized as the US thinks.

    • @stayprepared2388
      @stayprepared2388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can Kishore be trusted ? after Kishore got kick out of Singapore NTU as dean together with China professor Huang and his wife both ban from entering Singapore forever by the ISA ( danger to Singapore ) Kishore dare to tell the truth ? is Kishore / George Yeo both traitors working for China ?

  • @leky1325
    @leky1325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Let the westerners keep their piece of prize. This part of the world can create its own recognition and achievement prizes for worthy candidates anytime.

    • @jw1866
      @jw1866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is the right way of thinking. First step to get rid of the mindset of western supremacy.

    • @nickiseb8910
      @nickiseb8910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why didn't you

  • @makanayam9150
    @makanayam9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are a lot of wisdoms in Kishore's talks. Thank you Kishore and Gita. I'm now a better person.

  • @user-nq2sw6sg8q
    @user-nq2sw6sg8q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Kishore is less formal and more relaxed ( less hesitant)in this interview , compared to other Kishore interviews from other channels.

    • @wulung5943
      @wulung5943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He has to be careful against western media anti China agenda, loaded questions and be tactful as well.

    • @user-nq2sw6sg8q
      @user-nq2sw6sg8q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Touhidul Islam Abir
      Ya, after watching the video, they actually know each other. (;I commented before watching the whole video)That interviewer was a a former govt employee.

    • @user-nq2sw6sg8q
      @user-nq2sw6sg8q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wulung5943
      Kishore is not only an ex diplomat, but a philosopher. Thus EQ must be high. Knows when to formal, what to say; what not to say.

    • @day2148
      @day2148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-nq2sw6sg8q Gita (the interviewer) is a former Indonesian minister of trade. Good chance they've known each other for a LONG time.

  • @marvinfok65
    @marvinfok65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Kishore is straight to the point: Plutocracy vs Meritocracy! Whether he is right or not, is not important, I like people who take a stand not trying to be wishy washy, trying to be nice to both sides!

    • @dunzhen
      @dunzhen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spoilers: he's right
      😂

  • @atky7032
    @atky7032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's an excellent conversation! The host is one of the most knowledgable, humble and professional I've seen. And it's because of this he was able to draw so much wisdom from Kishore. Two wise men talking. I've learnt so much. Thank you!

    • @indrabayu8139
      @indrabayu8139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The host was a minister of trade of Indonesia.

  • @taolitang8403
    @taolitang8403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Such wisdom, yet such humility. 👍👍👍

  • @kcmann8708
    @kcmann8708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kishore is a top class thinker. 👍

  • @dafuq6959
    @dafuq6959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saya punya usul, bapak setiap selesai podcast, di akhir video kasih buku rujukan yg terkait dengan pembicaraan bapak dengan narasumber. Ini sangat membantu bagi orang yg tertarik dengan tema yg dibicarakan. Dan satu lagi buat video terpisah khusus membahas buku buku favorit yg pernah bapak baca. Saya juga sangat tertarik dengan beberapa judul buku yg ada di backround podcast. Mungkin itu saja pak, thanks ...

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Siap. Makasih masukannya..

  • @rambuntjajo1181
    @rambuntjajo1181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is very good piece. I have followed him for quite sometime. Kishore has very compelling arguments. The book Have China Won? is very good. I think he is the outstanding ASEAN voice in the world. Thanks to bring him to our Indonesian audiences.

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  • @dharmac.guntoro6776
    @dharmac.guntoro6776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poin terakhir pembahasan bahwa pemerintah juga harus pintar (dengan segala kelebihan dan kekurangannya) agar tidak menjadi "bulan-bulanan", untuk saya sangat menarik.
    Terima kasih, Pak Gita & segenap tim Endgame.

  • @bonanza06
    @bonanza06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Excellent interview ! Kishore is definitely one of the very finest commentators on the state of geopolitics. He is fair and balanced, eloquent, entertaining, and insightful. Also, great job conducting the interview, Mr Wirjawan !

  • @Junoesky
    @Junoesky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Having read some of his books, I always thought Kishore's TED Talk last year is way too short and doesn't cover enough of his brilliant theories. And now this interview drops and unfolds everything.. Bravo!

  • @felixzhuang8685
    @felixzhuang8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think that Indonesia's tourism industry can learn from the service consciousness of Hong Kong 10 years ago. Apart from the natural geographical conditions, the other two factors are safety and service awareness

  • @karlyap3011
    @karlyap3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is a more relaxed and better interview than the others of his that I have seen. Here Kishore Mahbubani does not to dance politely and delicately with a white interviewer for a western audience. He can be more frank in his response.

  • @katay001
    @katay001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome interview by pak Gita and thought-provoking answers given by Kishore ! Kudos to both of you , Sirs ! Looking forward to more of such interviews !

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @Bozegirl
    @Bozegirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Confucius said "Walking among three people, I find my teacher among them." East Asian countries know to keep learning because Confucius taught it thousands of years ago.

    • @davidkw9
      @davidkw9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But the stupid US is already starting to shutdown Confucius schools...

  • @palmtree_
    @palmtree_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    1:00:10 Indonesia is too proud to look into Vietnam's success, or to Malaysia's success.
    Nevermind to look into Singapore's success, a tiny country that once Habibie mocked as "The little red dot".

    • @maximme
      @maximme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sadly mob rule in Indonesia will continue to bury the country,

    • @marktrinidad7650
      @marktrinidad7650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be frank there is a significant sense to it. Singapore is small and can easily be micro managed. Its not that Indonesia haven't acknowledged Singapore its just its too small and its more appropriate to replicate Singapore's success unto Indonesian cities.

    • @maximme
      @maximme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @vlad wick /no way, indonesia must remain chaotic and lawless. no success for indonesia.
      it must remain under the thumb of australia domination.

    • @ETS186
      @ETS186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximme hey man, i love your music.

    • @dimassaputradi699
      @dimassaputradi699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      little red dot is not to insult them, it's the reference to say otherwise, eventhough they are tiny enough but keep captivating to look

  • @dant8891
    @dant8891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kishore has been so fair and passionate when sharing the Vietnam's success story and war history. A great thinker indeed.

  • @felixzhuang8685
    @felixzhuang8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a Chinese, I want to say that the South China Sea needs to establish a code of conduct in the South China Sea as soon as possible. I believe that the politicians in the South China Sea have the wisdom to do another great thing for the long-term stability, cooperation and common prosperity of the whole Asia. Asia should have its own consensus on Ideological and political cooperation.

    • @marktrinidad7650
      @marktrinidad7650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, without consensus other remote countries which have in no way near that area is the one doing meddling.

    • @felixzhuang8685
      @felixzhuang8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@marktrinidad7650 Asia was built from the ashes of war, and it doesn’t matter what kind of political system you have, the most important thing is to make a good life for your people. And I personally believe that the rise of China will give Asian countries a greater say in the world, and that Asia as a whole will only prosper if the United States is kicked out of the region

    • @marktrinidad7650
      @marktrinidad7650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@felixzhuang8685 I agree with that mate.

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  • @yueyeongkwan277
    @yueyeongkwan277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have always enjoyed listening to Kishore when he talks so frankly and honestly about so many global issues. Thank you for hosting this one on one interview in a casual like manner but yet discussing very serious geopolitical issues. Terima Kasih.

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  • @mirzairawadi7091
    @mirzairawadi7091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ini insight tentang politik ekonomi yg bagus sekali untuk diputar di universitas² di Indonesia. Kenapa pak Gita tidak mendorong podcast seperti ini untuk di tonton oleh mahasiswa?

  • @samuelsmith1327
    @samuelsmith1327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pak Gita, thank you for doing what you are doing. This is gold. All the guests that you are hosting are world class. I hope more Indonesians can get exposed to the world by watching your channel.

  • @60yoself-taught
    @60yoself-taught 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Kishore you deserve a Nobel peace prize, if not this year, next year.

    • @learning2800
      @learning2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They will never offer him that prize, his intellect and knowledge is more superior and exceptional than other who received the silly prize

    • @aryanhan506
      @aryanhan506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@learning2800 yes 👍

    • @60yoself-taught
      @60yoself-taught 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@learning2800Agreed, silly N prize. It could be something like Great Thinker Prize of community of common destiny of mankind. Some Western people would be scared, revolution coming! How dare they?!So, on balance, the East may better continue to play the games set by the West and continue to beat them...

    • @brengganmanurung3568
      @brengganmanurung3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. He is still far away behind Nobel laureates and thinkers such as Chomsky and Jijec.

  • @westwoodly
    @westwoodly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prof Mahbubani endears me with his frankness, matter of fact
    explanations turning complex issues into clearly understood metaphors and symbols that we can easily relate to, compelling and convincing. Great insight into China-US relationship.

  • @gunawankartapranata7948
    @gunawankartapranata7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Video talkshow Pak Gita bergizi semua... Saya senang menyimaknya, banyak informasi yang mencerahkan. Terima kasih...

  • @suzegiljer3206
    @suzegiljer3206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thank you both for such an illuminating conversation.We need more of Asian wisdom

  • @nayanikawanna144
    @nayanikawanna144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I am not mistaken. Pak gita saat bicara Indonesia bisa nyontoh Vietnam ngerasa kayak “kenapa kita belajar dari Vietnam padahal kita lebih maju?” tapi secara sopan. Namun kemudian dibalas oleh Kisshore bahwa jangan berhenti untuk belajar tiru yg terbaik. Contoh singapore ke shenzen yg bukan apa2 saat itu. Dan eropa yg ga ngirim delegasi ke negara asia untuk belajar penanganan covid karena merasa powerful. Jadi intinya dont judge by the cover. Dimanapun dan kapanpun itu ambil yg terbaik walaupun pasti ada yg buruk bahkan terburuk

  • @vichitvideo6041
    @vichitvideo6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Insightful, knowledgeable, straightforward and well-In tentioned talk. But unfortunately I do not think many Westerners, especially those in America, will be happy to hear it. Western media's policy about their report on China during the last few decades has disinformed, misled the public there. Thus their biased concept about China. When money controls politics, sensible government policy is hard to come by. Keep up Professor Kishore Mahbubani, so that people can understand things outside their countries better, which will definitely to some extent contribute to world peace.

  • @realitybitesw4900
    @realitybitesw4900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    ASEAN doesn't need Nobel Peace Prize, because the Prize has lost all its credibility!

    • @babacheng8923
      @babacheng8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      WELL SAID.

    • @troutstalker4744
      @troutstalker4744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      These days even murderers can be awarded the nobel..

    • @_seola_
      @_seola_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@troutstalker4744 ikr, the world has gone upside down lol

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep it themself

    • @seowpj1401
      @seowpj1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well said. Big liar Donald Trump

  • @hookkimhin7097
    @hookkimhin7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is the most intelligent and valuable knowledge exchange from this channel. Proud of them in their sharing and yet so humble.

  • @livklopp2526
    @livklopp2526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr Kishore. Respect to your humbleness and humility

  • @freakyzee478
    @freakyzee478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can this person not get a nobel prize.!
    This podcast is one of the best i ve heard.
    So much to learn and so less time.

  • @ryanardan09
    @ryanardan09 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I frowned, laughed, and pondered many things while listening to this podcast. I feel enlightened. Terima kasih Pak Gita dan Mr.Mahbubani, please keep it coming

  • @fannybirot2362
    @fannybirot2362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always love to listen to Kishore, but Mr. Gita really suprises me, too. Such a gentlemen.

  • @skychaos87
    @skychaos87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    51:00 I have to stress that copying despite easy, is actually very hard to determine which method or examples are the right ones to copy. India, Taiwan and many other countries copied democracy and political systems from the western world, especially from America. And they are stuck with similar problems the west faced. Singapore's true strength is not simply about copying, its about determining the root of the problem and focuses specifically on the problem at hand. In another words, its about efficacy and pragmatism. What India and Taiwan copied are the ideologies, which has blocked them from facing the real problems, much less solve them.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent observation.. Thanks for sharing.

  • @seechunchong9876
    @seechunchong9876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Totally informative, entertaining and most enjoyable conversation. Thanks for sharing, Pak...Cheers from Malaysia.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @sebataspemahamansaya
    @sebataspemahamansaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that you generously provide Bahasa Indonesia subtitle to make this content enjoyable by as many person as possible is inspiring. Thank you, Pak.

  • @mbahgugel271
    @mbahgugel271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What you have discussed with mr.KIshore, that's what president Jokowi has been doing, opening up airports and international airports all across the country, especially tourist areas and at the same time, he is building highways, introduced Omnibus law to attract FDI which eventually create jobs for the Indonesian people. Maybe the next homework for president Jokowi is to eliminate corruptions in all levels of government.
    The government has to stress STEM in education instead of religious institutions which makes us going back to 8th century mentality. Actually, mr.KIshore forgot to mention that China is copying Europe, Japan and US to advance their country in the last 40 years, China stressed on STEM for all their young students and are sending 300,000 students to developed countries every year. Lastly, it is an interesting subject to discuss Indonesian direction with the expert as good as him. Hope you can invite mr.Luhut Panjaitan in the next episode in which he will follow up what you have discussed today. Good luck !

  • @6batikstore470
    @6batikstore470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sebagai orang awam saya ragu akan menikmati obrolan Pak Gita dengan Prof. Kishore. But damn that was really interesting conversation. Pak Gita is brilliant as always, and Prof. Kishore is a genius at articulating difficult topic and yet he is beyond humble. Keren!

  • @sammuell3100
    @sammuell3100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's an irony that the region that recieved most Nobel peace Prize are facing war, riot, racer clashes and social instability. The region that recieved non or few Nobel Peace Prize are living in peace.

  • @awinsatriowibowo3227
    @awinsatriowibowo3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wow its gold conversation, cant wait for another Endgame. Love you sir Gita.

  • @Ibdasuki
    @Ibdasuki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prof Mahbubani undoubtedly has vast repository of knowledge and deep insight on the state of the world's geopolitics and especially of Asia and Asean. I would like Pak Gita to recommend him as a Special Advisory Consultant to the President of Indonesia!

    • @jasonleong6791
      @jasonleong6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, cannot. We need to keep thinkers like him in Singapore and get him to contribute more to our foreign policy! :)
      Just kidding, of course we can share, we are neighbours! Good neighbours! Just don't bully us!

    • @nanayue5388
      @nanayue5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think our great leaders here in SG are willing to share...look at how many CCP sent their officials in last decades. We are friends not foes..just dont take for granted.

  • @GODLIMIT
    @GODLIMIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone else here think that Mr Gita Wirjawan exudes an Obama-esque aura when he speaks and gestures? This is my first time listening to him and I can't get over how composed and statesman-like he carries himself. Of course, I'm here for Mr Mahbubani, who never ceases to drop geopolitical gems of wisdom.

  • @hlim431
    @hlim431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a brilliant mind... and a wonderful human being

  • @MarioTas94
    @MarioTas94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Pak Gita, in my opinion so far, Endgame is the most valuable podcast to educate people not only for Indonesian but also for people around the world..
    Salam dari saya yang sedang menempuh pendidikan di Australia.
    I hope when I come back to Indonesia, I can use my knowledge to help Indonesia. Same as what you have done.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Stefanus.. Thank you for the kind words..

  • @tantinoor36
    @tantinoor36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for doing this interview and sharing it with us. Just what we need.

  • @mkusumo1
    @mkusumo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy so much to listen this conversation between these two knowledge n reputable gentlemen again n again. Pa Gita, this program should be viewed in local TV Programs, hence gives inspiration to the Indonesian. Thank you so much.

  • @saya2qt2bstr8
    @saya2qt2bstr8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen most Mr Mahbubani talks and interviews... by far this is the best interview. Thanks Pak Gita for bringing out the most out of Mr Mahbubani.

  • @rakasubawa9336
    @rakasubawa9336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Luar biasa prof Kishore Mahbubani... trimakasih pak Gita Wirjawan...endgame sangat Menginspirasi dan bermanfaat

  • @bekicot1478
    @bekicot1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This conversation has teached me a lot, thanks Pak Gita.

  • @snowysu4291
    @snowysu4291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Prof Kishore: 👍👍👍 You are a brilliant star, humble and humurous! Your insights onto this world and sincere sharing deserved serious attention by the powerful and influential countries.

  • @trihartonoariyanto5244
    @trihartonoariyanto5244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Pak Gita, thanks for inspiring me and just few minutes ago i bought book of Mr Kishore from Play Store "Has China Won?" really excited to digest it accompanied with listening Ardhito's song.. Perfect right?

  • @AhmadFikri-cq4uu
    @AhmadFikri-cq4uu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Setiap hari nyari di pencarian youtube : Gita Wirjawan . Dan hari ini akhirnya update yeey

  • @marcoreus1213
    @marcoreus1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pak Gita tolong banyakin konten begini, saya tidak pernah skip kalau ada iklan selalu nntn smp habis. Belajar banyak dan membuka pikiran

  • @pito6979
    @pito6979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sdh berulang kali dengar pfof kishore di yotube. Baru kali ini dengar his personal story. Good job pak gita......

  • @anisaastiandiniaziz4319
    @anisaastiandiniaziz4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aku suka bukunya prof kishore tentang keajaiban ASEAN, membuka mata bangat kalau ASEAN itu bener2 beragam. terima kasih ilmunya pak Gita dan Prof Kishore

  • @sarahdianayulianti1716
    @sarahdianayulianti1716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Say it no more maan, say it no more"
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    I love this "full interview" format Sir, and I enjoy the conversation a lot,
    quite interesting, an STEM background like me tried to catch up with the theme
    Respect to Pak Gita & Mr Kishore Mahbubani

  • @lecorsaire2283
    @lecorsaire2283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Excellent talk! You’re a great interviewer!

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching

  • @rizkihesananda7089
    @rizkihesananda7089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ini keren banget sih ! perlu di parbanyak lagi pak Gita, konten seperti ini.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Siap.. Noted

  • @abdeenn3
    @abdeenn3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an intelligent conversation!
    Thank you!

  • @tinomarbun4703
    @tinomarbun4703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    what a gold conversation and full of new insights for me
    well done Pak Gita

  • @graceoysh
    @graceoysh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is absolutely such a strong kick-off of Endgame season 2! What a thought-feeding episode! This needs more eyes and ears. Thanks for the great show, Pak Gita and team!

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for more..

  • @kusinara8936
    @kusinara8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your podcast Gita! Greetings from India.

  • @kunhan6336
    @kunhan6336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A truly inspiring talk, not only the speaker himself, but also the host. Mr. Mahbubani is a knowledgeable person with lots of practical experience in geopolitics, and Mr. Wirjawan knows "where to dig" and string them together in a logical way. I am very impressed by both of them, and I have learned a lot. Many thanks.

  • @rmazim500
    @rmazim500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Nice Interview which shows that Prof. Kishore is a Self Made person endowed with Humility. Above All a Very Good Human Being.

  • @ShiAzalia
    @ShiAzalia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful way to spend my Sunday morning! Walaupun banyak istilah politik, ekonomi, hubungan internasional yg saya ga ngerti tapi Alhamdulillah masih bisa menangkap esensinya. Terima kasih Pak Gita!

  • @TheYankeetango
    @TheYankeetango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Kishore. A wise diplomat and thinker, patient and gentle. Pride of Singapore and Asia.

  • @yplim0
    @yplim0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Deep insight discussion on economic development for countries to want to reduce poverty in the world.

  • @bellybutton6138
    @bellybutton6138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thailand, the land of smiles. I visited Thailand with my family a few years ago. I am amazed how well developed their tourism infrastructure is. I can plan my trip personally and from overseas without going through any agencies. I can depend on local booking of tours and hotels via internet and at the hotels. My family feel safe roaming the streets at night. I do not feel that I am being ripped off. And most of all, Thais are so welcoming and friendly. Added plus: We love Thai cuisine. Indonesia has many beautiful islands. Should be able to draw and attract many overseas tourists if you get your infrastructure right, just as Kishore advised.

  • @michaelwan6640
    @michaelwan6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very wise man. I hope the world is full of leader like Kishore.

  • @hafifedu.job.3756
    @hafifedu.job.3756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Turtle neck and running shoes is the best style from Mr Gita every podcast , great look.
    but the topic that both bring it up is new for me , and enrich my knowledge with fresh information regarding china and other stuff.
    thank you pak to give knowledge for indonesian through your chanel.

  • @yaqinisme9820
    @yaqinisme9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terima kasih banyak pak Gita. Topik yang dibicarakan sangat menarik dan positif. Sebagai generasi millenial, jadi makin semangat membangun Indonesia, kebetulan saya mendalami ilmu soal energi terbarukan. Seru nontonnya, berasa lagi seminar di kampus)

  • @felisitasdefung2533
    @felisitasdefung2533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel refreshed, watching this. Thank you pak Gita.

  • @hungmanxxxx2462
    @hungmanxxxx2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much wisdom and insight !!!!! Kishore is a LEGEND in our times .....

  • @kirohiro7333
    @kirohiro7333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Asia should have thier own version of the nobel prize, singapore should do it

  • @taolitang8403
    @taolitang8403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great scholar, brilliant thinker!

  • @muhammadrizqisaifulislam1765
    @muhammadrizqisaifulislam1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bangsa kita butuh anak muda yang hebat - hebat Pak.
    Tapi saat ini, anak muda itu butuh orang - orang seperti Pak Gita, Pak Mardigu, Pak Helmy dll.
    Semoga dari konten-konten yang Bapak - bapak sekalian buat, akan lahir anak muda - anak muda hebat yang akan membawa perubahan di Indonesia.