Conversations with History: John Mearsheimer
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- On this episode of Conversations with History, author and University of Chicago professor John J. Mearsheimer joins UC Berkeley's Harry Kreisler to discuss the Realist theory of international relations and its implications for understanding the U.S. role in the world, future relations with China, and our response to the terrorist threat. [11/2002] [Show ID: 6808]
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One of the greatest global geo political thinkers / historians of our time.
I have the utmost respect for this man.
Dude just exudes integrity and intellect. We desperately need more thinkers like this.
John you are legend.
Listening to this now is more relevant than ever
It was amazing to watch and listen the prof. 15 years ago
It still is. He was extremely prescient.
Edit: everything except that China’s growth would push the U.S. and Russia together, but his explanation now would be that the U.S. enlarged NATO to the point where Russia felt an existential threat.
ANYTIME Mr. Mearsheimer is speaking...whether an Old video or Recent...I'm there!! 22 yrs ago & still very applicable today.
He really had a crystal ball, didn't he? In actuality he did not fall for propaganda that is presented to the masses and distilled government behavior down to their true motivations. He was absolutely correct in the conclusions and these are holding true all the way through 2022.
Because it is easy to assume our involvement caused the issue or aggravated it in hindsight. Inaction is never measured in the consequences when it comes to his calculus. What if Saddam was able to invade Kuwait and neighbors and commit more humanitarian disasters? Sure, America could not have been involved, but then the Professor would not have anything to talk about. He sure likes to be critical, even cynical, of American intervention and values, but offers no solutions. He is just a theorist.
@@908Dannyboy He's officered plenty of solutions lol.. not sure what you've been watching.
@@908Dannyboy .,
His predictions about Russia-China and Russia-US relations (44:30) just didn't come true.
50:54 He’s so unbelievably full of sh*te! For 75 years Palestinians have said they do NOT want a state of their own! They want to kill all the Jews and make Palestine a Muslim caliphate! So no they aren’t begging for a their own state or they would have agreed to one the last 7 times they were offered one!
Don’t even get me started on his ridiculous CGTN, kowtowing he does for the CCP communist or the insane mental gymnastics he tries to do to blame Russia’s criminal invasion and annexation of Ukrainian sovereign territory on US backed NATO “expansion”!!??
NATO was basically going extinct until Putin started killing Europeans and talking like Hitler about the “Russian speaking people in the Donbas”.
Mersheimer is a nut job! Of course college kids and ME muslim brotherhood Pan Arabist (Palestinians) Russians vatniks and Chinese Wumao’s love him
! Because can twist recent history to form a narrative that somehow always blames the United States for ALL the worlds problems.
How come he was so credible in everything he said even from that long ago.
Incredible Brilliant Professor…
Damn he is good! 20 years passed and some of his estimations so true!
Great conversation. Prof Mearsheimer is a great realist, seeing international relation as it is, without ideological glass.
Bro please listen to his latest lectures in which he is convincing us on good and bad lies giving clean chit to Bush junior Iraq crimes. They are all state agents modulating it's image except very few. Nationalism prevails over reality and justice.
Incredibly courageous to have been making these statements in the wake of 9-11. Everything he has been saying for years is completely self-consistent and has integrity
I love being able to sit back, relax, listen, and take in the concepts without the strain that reading puts on my eyes. Thank you for posting these videos UCtelevision.
It’s fascinating to see how the professor’s views have remained consistent for so long.
April 20, 2022. Professor Mearshimer is more necessary with each passing day. The rethorical question is: why it is that we are never exposed to his thinking in most of the media?...🤔
Idealists have set imaginations of how the world works and don't want that bubble popped. Realism while being more rational, doesn't play to people's hopes and dreams. Both can be true, Utopias are real, but short lived, and Global Utopia is realistically far from anyone's lifetime, and even a Perfect Utopia eventually comes to an end.
Making friends and not enemies is common sense
I find the universe and life to be so complex that is beyond understanding. Life passed by so quickly that the human race must work together to avoid conflicts and war!
Great MEARSHEIMERWAVE track to open the show with.
Thank u for a depth analysis. wish U.S leaders listen to u. The world will be a better place.
29:39 "we should all be very skeptical of what our leaders say".
Just wow!..I could listen to this everyday and everyhour.. I mean these guys look so student freindly and extremely willing to take on questions unlike my Professor..
crazy how much has changed in just a few years
The scholarly work of Professor John Mershiemer is of high value and very much relevant to the present day international politics.
The best. Thanks Prof. Mearsheimer
As a man of loyalty and integrity, Prof Mearsheimer was right then and has been right ever since. Liberal imperialism (self-righteousness) of America has created endless miseries both abroad and domestic.
One of the best videos i ever watched on the internet
Mr. Mearsheimer is an amazing human being.
I love John Measheimer
On a personal note, he hasn't change from about 60 to mid-70s. That's a lesson to us.
18 years on from the original air date, Mearsheimer's analysis was mostly spot on - particularly regarding the War on Terrorism. Bush would've done well to heed his advice instead of embarking on the lunacy that was the Iraq War.
Yep, except that Bush was in thrall to all the war-mongering Neo-Conservatives mongering war on the behalf of Israel.
Bush decided nothing. Cheney's puppet. Cheney made stupid decisions.
This man is such a wonderful peace of intelligence added to this world. Bless him.
He’s been exactly correct with everything he’s had to say.
I really agree with Mearsheimer and I wish that people who fall into the usual categories like socialists, anarchists, libertarian, right wing conservatives and so on, would come out of their ossified frames and get interested in ideas that transcend such categories.
Very helpful for understanding, thank you!
Wow.Great explanation! 14 years ago. This is called Realism.
Its says 2002 in the discription so 21 years ago
54:35
Nice explanation of how to maintain a constantly refreshed world view.
Wonderful talks
Thank very much
Good stuff, thanks UC
14 years ago, this guy predicted everything...
Yeah… especially the coalition of the USA and Russia to counterbalance the raise of China. 😂😂😂
2021, many of the things that this profesor said are being fulfilled... o.0
Pretty hard to read it now…. March 2022
I personally think realism comes closest in explaining the world order or chaos than all other theories, specially the defensive realism. i just wanted to have a say lol but this video was great thanks for the great work of sharing.
Have learnt a lot from u sir, and will be dreamt to sit by your side one day.
“The biggest and baddest dude on the block.”
Legend
If you want to know the truth about the wars in the Middle East, you should read his work.
Thank you for the recommendation, Bokomo Mazuri.
Brilliant George
beautiful
He really blew the big question: “What advice would you give to students as to how they should prepare for the future?” The answer, of course, is that they should avoid the (essentially Nixonian) temptation to focus on issues of foreign policy and instead concern themselves with domestic issues. The story of the 21st century in America is how media and other policy makers are making it impossible for all but the most fortunate to live a civilized middle class life. It simply won’t matter what happens in great power relations if non-HYPS folks, have no work beyond pouring coffee, or if they have to cower in their apartments to avoid violence dusky types who’ve been exempted from the criminal law.
"International relations" will determine war and peace, and the value of the US dollar. That will determine what happens domestically.
It's not up to us anymore, and has not been for a long time.
JM was dead-on on predicting the outcome of GW1, and his warnings concerning the soon-to-come GW2 (at the time of this interview). the guy just seems to be, without a lot of fanfare or smugness or egotism, the smartest in our collective room. he, moreover, has the courage to speak plainly about our irrational policies respecting Israel, where that state is headed, nay-sayers notwithstanding - his predictive record speaks for itself.
Love this guy. Shittin on the neoliberal foreign policy establishment. Why is his expert opinion never invited on network news? If not working in our state department .
I totally agree.
excellent
A very fine character. Rarely seen nowadays, unfortunately.
Academic of the highest order.
Well this have aged beautifully.
Cool!
yeah!
Dr. Mearsheimer has always looked exactly the same ever since the end of WWII.
😂
No 11 Bravo for Mearsheimer! Smart!
Can you imagine what an example it would set for the world if we were able to find a way to live in peace in Israel/Palestine? All the pieces of the puzzle are there: a shared monotheistic tradition, a shared land, and shared interests.We are closer to actualizing this than most people realize.Peace is in the best interest of all parties involved...it is a non-zero sum game.May G-d bless us with the wisdom to see clearly that peace is a matter of creating the conditions for mutual prosperity
China and Russia are weak ? How things have changed !
Nobody wants to question whether "power" is solely based on military might? Nobody wants to argue that economic power might enter into the equation?
I just found out that there are typed versions of these interviews - ahh! Just google the title of the video and there should be a result from globetrotter/berkley.
He predicted USA policy on China 16 years ago 👏👏👏
Anyone who mentions ´The will to power´ gets a like from me.
It still surprises me how many people don't think Realism is plausible. To me it seems uncontroversial and obvious.
Good
If states are like black boxes and all act the same, why does the US tolerate the UK and France having nuclear weapons yet North Korea and Iran have sanctions imposed on them?
The same reason you can have a Glock, but your mentally ill neighbor can't.
Leaders probably follow their perceived self-interest. Perceived yes, as it is influenced by their norms and ideas on the world.
So yeah, I disagree with Maersheimer, but do think his perspective is a very useful as a perspective on the world and it explains a lot of why the world is at is.
I agree with J. M. Because my coutry is a victim of the imperial deep state of the USA.
Yes and their self interest is staying in power. I don’t see the disagreement?
He thought about a Russia China immigration abs boarder dispute where Americans would help Russians against China …
All great models have things to teach us about reality, and all models are wrong! Mearsheimer is correct, realism fails when the assumption that states are the primary agent. With the explosion of individual power on the international plane, transnational corporate entities, global non-government organisations, and structural changes at the international level, realism needs to be augmented with new models.
excellent point. this would include, most pertinantly, energized empowered factions within the polity of any state. that is yet another aggregation which acts much as state within a state. think of your own examples, there are more than one or two in the US, certainly.
Mearsheimer is such a babe! I may actually pass my exams now!!
Terrorism is an effect, not a cause.
Terrorists are always an organized group.
Not to be confused with anarchists (loosely organized).
Go to the cause, solve it, and that "strain" of terrorism will weaken and disappear.
Smart man
Analysis of this video today? He suggested that a coalition between the USA and Russia will be fostered due to China and Russia rivalry. And other errors.
Affer discarding his mistaken advice on terrorism, all the Mearshmeimer assumptions were half a truly prophecy about China and the related international political frame. Considering his 50% efficacious prediction 21 years ago, I believe he has a good performance (despite far from to be perfect).
Brasil
If University of California is at Berkeley, then what is UCLA?
Berkeley is across the bay from SF, north of Oakland. as the oldest (I believe) land grant university in the UC system, it enjoys that name.
he simply didn't anticipate Neocon ideological intoxication after the dissolution of the SU.
OMG!
"And we also sometimes run into evidence that contradicts the theories we have in our head."
Failure. That's (most often, anyway) failure. And oh, the suffering we experience when we run smack dab into that wall of evidence saying, "Nope, wrong again!".
The truth lesson seems to be tossed out upon leaving the Point
what was the third school of realist...
human nature; defensive ; ???
offensive
The host is so good, compared to the trash we havenow
Exactly , militaries don't like putting their soldiers into combat for political or economic reasons... in days gone by. Those military leaders have retired, a newer breed of top command that is completely intertwined with the weapon corporations, John McCain was one of the first of these then bored himself into the congress and sat there for 40 yrs. doling out trillions, thank god gone now but Lindsey Graham and Timmy Kane were there to pick up the baton.
Taking into account norms and ideas is a Constructivist view of International Relations. Realists, like Mearsheimer, don't place much value of norms or ideas in their theory.
those considerations certainly do apply, from time to time, in the sociopolitcal culture of states (popular acceptance for gulf war II, the korean conflict, unique closeness to the state of Israel). at least, its not like the elites can simply effect power politics without a bit of grooming of the populace.
This man has been the same age for 16 years
You beat me to it.
If the US stopped using terrorist groups to fight proxy wars it might just help but he can’t quite bring himself to discuss this
16:41
14 years...
ok…
13:13
Can see where SARS2 came from now
"Rhetorical Changes".
He's very diplomatic ... maybe too much ...
I observe, and i think every person in history up to the future subconsciously knows, "where" realists are really coming from (And i observe this is what the likes of mearsheimer don't really realize). If you and they really think deeply about it, they (realists) are actually really coming from the LACK OF COURAGE,... to be IDEALISTS....
(and they, realists, justify it - realism - with all kinds of "acrobatic" reasoning).
Most of them voice out their realpolitik viewpoints in the safety of their privileged circumstances - like Nicollo Machiavelli himself. (That's why he, mearsheimer, always say, not verbatim: "I'm very happy I'm living in (the most powerful) liberal democratic country - which ironically is a product of idealism, ...but when it comes to international relations...- he's a realist)
His and his et al's IR Old World 19th century Machiavellian realpolitik viewpoint...
...actually HAS to die,...
... WE, THE REST OF THE HUMAN RACE ALL KNOW IT IN OUR HEARTS IT HAS TO DIE, "YESTERDAY", hundreds, even thousands of years ago...
... And I think deep inside his (mearsheimer et al's) heart he knows it. But like all (socio) realists, he doesn't have the COURAGE to admit it...because he doesn't have the courage to BE against it (PREVAILING human CONSTRUCTED reality)... And his realist thinking is greatly influenced by his privileged personal situation: a legal citizen of the most powerful nation in the world, and all the privileges and personal SAFETY, it entails.
What differentiates a realist from an idealist?
COURAGE and Empathy for the rest of YOUR human race.
Courage to DESIRE, ENVISION AND USE YOUR GREAT MIND, to PERPETUALLY make things better than what they are, than JUST cowardly accept the social constructs that our physical/biological/historical reality socially CONSTRUCTED for us.
Clue: if it's constructed, it can be DE-constructed or changed.
Precise prediction. Russia, China, Taiwan.
The reason for the lack of aggression from Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Korea, France and Russia is not american armies in the region. I find this argument weak!
then propose a better one. the only examples of aggressor states are those not dominated, culturally or esp. militarily, by the US. NK, as restive client of PRC, may be in this way of thinking a bit of a cat's paw, or alternatively a demonstration of PRC's weakness as a hegemon.
Offensive; this is the theory Mearsheimer himself believes in.
His name is pronounced „Maers-heimer“, not „Maersh-eimer“.
It’s astounding, not even Americans with German roots, pay regard to that.
Listen to the man himself - the ‘sshush’ pronunciation was there…..’sheimer’.
Language evolves. Brits reverse the ‘ie’ dipthongs, UK and US exchange the vowels….
Context evolves. We don,t introduce this debate as being between a Jew and a German. What we fail to learn is how to maintain peace and prevent all out war again.
YT threw this up for me. Disappointing.
@@user-nx6ji9tk8i There is this joke in German for people whose surname is "Hirsch".
You introduce yourself with:
"Meine Name ist "Hirsch". " or "Ich heiße "Hirsch"." or with an impetus " "Hirsch" , heiße ich ! " .
The latter when quickly spoke like "Hier scheiße ich." , which means "Here I shit." : )
@@kulturfreund6631 ha ha. Decades again I lived in Germany with two small boys - we English learnt scheisse very quickly! Many good memories of our time there.
And a great pronunciation help to sing sublime Bach correctly in the years that followed! Now - we,re completely off topic, but thanks for the memories.
Meer-Shy-Mer
he didn't like the military but wanted to go to Vietnam? I don't understand.
Maybe he had his reasons and maybe they were foolish. This of course greatly upset the power dynamic of the Mearsheimer household and appropriate measures were taken.
2022. Interview 20 years before. @ 44 min. US - Russian relations won’t be as bad in next 20 years. That was wrong. It was bad from 2014 re Crimea annexation.
In the aftermath of September 11th, it was entirely rational to assume that Zbigniew Brzyzinski was finished as an influence in policy making.
His legacy was smouldering in downtown Manhattan.
But ZB did re-emerge as an influence, under Obama. In fact he gor completely rehabilitated.
It should be One World government without border and nationality. Open border people free to work and live anywhere they are plesed. Balance of power never happen if people divide with nationalty, races and classes.
How much suffering are you willing to inflict to realize that goal?
NWO
Today in 2024, John was wrong over Russia-China :)
I think he is right on the fact that it would have been rational for us to ally with russia against china