More Oculink Please! OSMETA EGO1-M External GPU Dock Review - RTX 4090, GPD Win Mini
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- I failed to mention the Power Supply cable in this video. It gets plugged into the back of the dock and into your wall outlet.
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Dude! This is fantastic! Didn't know Osmeta had this all-in-one, this is exactly what I wanted someone to create. Edit: Will continue to fight the good fight to push for Oculink / MCIO going forward
Thank you! This means a lot coming from you. Im glad you saw the video, and yes, indeed, we need to continue the fight! Cheers!
this is awesome its crazy that people talk about it but dont show how useful and convient it can be good work.
I felt the same way for the longest time. Which is why I made this video for the average gamer to know that it is possible. If I can do it, being technically challenged in all, they can, too. Thanks so much for watching. Cheers!
This really could be the start to modular PC building.
Simpler and easier both to start and to upgrade.
A lot of profit could be made here.
I agree, I believe this is just the beginning. Exciting times! Thanks for checking out my video. Cheers!
Since the limiting factor of these handhelds is the cpu, something cool to cover in the future would be dlss 3 frame generation and lossless scaling 2x and 3x frame generation. Since these essentially redirect the load from cpu to the gpu potential. It could help saturate the oculink bandwidth more optimally as well. Just remember to cap the base fps (the one you are generating from) to exactly half your intended refresh and fps for the lossless scaling - that will produce the smoothest results.
enjoying teh content, hello from north dakota, subscribed brother.
Great to hear from you, and thank you for the support! Cheers!
Nice, video I like that your making a video on oculink enclosures that are not common
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback. I hope to do other enclosures in the future.
Useful review, thank you ! I love the concept of the Win Mini + 4090 esp with some of the local LLM becoming more accessible.
And I completely agree with the disappointment on the lack of Oculink on the Win Mini 2024 (also the lack of 64GB :)
I think many of us have the same sentiment. This is such an exciting time. So many advances and possibilities with these devices. I'm having so much fun exploring and figuring all this out. Cheers to you, and thank you for watching my video.
EG01-M is a very good eGPU dock! I also have decent luck with OneDockV2 and SlimQ GaN charger (~240W for GPU.) SuperBuy required for both so EG0-M seems better overall. I'm working on a quad eGPU setup for ML/AI, if you or your viewers are interested.
This is incredible!
This thing is badass. I have a Elit mini UM780 xtx. This device will solve the gpu problem because the oculink doch is way too expensive on the official website and doesnt even come with a psu. I am glad to see this video. Keep up man💪🏻
I'm glad you found the video helpful, and thanks for watching. You're going to be thrilled once you get a hold of one.
Cool video!
Just got this myself, great so far (asode from error 43)
I also have the same speakers as you 😂
I got the 800W version, it's SUPER heavy...
The hassle wasn't that bad on superbuy, they deal with all the customs stuff for you, go for courier delivery (eg ups) and the automated customs stuff.
Paid on a card.
Maybe 4 hours messing around and 7 day delivery.
Delivery and tax was 150% the price of the item though 😂
Nice!! I'm loving this setup so far.. I hope you are too. Thanks for tuning in to watch, I appreciate it.
about how long did it take for the dock to get to you? Interested in getting it myself, but the website is confusing. thanks
@andrewgarcia8907 it took about 5 weeks, but that could vary based on how much you are willing to pay for shipping. They provide a bunch of different options for you. Based on the weight of the item and form of transportation. I really hated to process, but the longer I've owned it the more I'm glad I went through with the process. Shoot me an email if you get hung up during the checkout process. It can get so confusing, and I wish I had someone to touch a question or two off of when I bought mine.
@@Slyclientthetechdad thanks will do!
lol😂 I love GPD win mini. I hooked up Reverb G2 VR and play Pavlov, Vegas Poker and EmuVR. And this is literally on the 7640u out the box. I always envisioned having a portable PCVR setup and I have it. Up next is 4070 egpu. Still portable and more of that beautiful POWER🤣😎
I’m getting a $60 egpu oculink bracket on Amazon.
Fuck Oculink bro! Gimme dat Thunderbolt 5 they've been promising this year!
Yes, yes!!! Can't figure out why intel is proscastunating. Oculink is fine for now, but I'm with you. Where's the TB5!!!!
I’ve mostly been using my eGPU for AI, so bandwidth isn’t a major concern, but I do like to see advancements like this.
Im glad I was able to share it with you. Thanks for watching.
yeah I totally agree with you dude. We need more OCulink, more people should know about OCulink and the possibility that it can bring. Even if I haven't tried it myself yet, I've tried to gather all the information that I could about it and I think that it's just sick the possibility to have a single device that you can use and carry around but that you can also attach to something like this and use it as a desktop. I have a rog ally and I was considering doing some little modding replacing the internal ssd with the gpd oculink adaptor and I think that I might go with this osmeta eg01 as the gpu board (well at least when I'll have the money for a gpu and a better monitor since right now my pocket is quite empty). By the way nice video!
I think you will be amazed once you can get your hands on one. The experience is exactly how you decided. You can take these devices with you anywhere. It's such an awesome feeling. They even have an osmeta that comes in a housing that you may want to consider. Picture the GPU in a little box. Makes it even easier to carry. I believe it's called the Osmeta H4. Also definitely take you time. I have a feeling that this technology may take off at a rapid pace. At least in the niche market. Seems like something better is announced everyday. If you think about it, keep me posted on what you decide to do, and I will be happy to answer any question you might have. Thanks for checking my video out. I appreciate it.
@@Slyclientthetechdad well, I'll try to keep you update. In this moment I was trying to consider all the different solution that I can go for and I was trying to gather all the information I need because I'm pretty new to PCs, so I don't want to mess up with what I have. And yeah, it seems like everyday there is something new regarding OCulink, so I'll take some time. Also I have to wait till something like summer to return working full time and earn something to actually afford everything, because right now I'm busy with school (which is something probably good because knowing myself I would have already tried to do the whole thing without being adequately aware of what I was doing) . However something that I was trying to better understand right now was how to make windows run from an external drive, specifically on the Rog Ally, because from what I've seen it seems like I should do a fresh installation of the OS on the external drive through rufus. However I was trying to understand if it was possible to clone the already existing OS on the external drive and boot it normally almost nothing changed.
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for your videos! Keep up with your great reviews!
What's your opinion about fan noise of this OSMETA EGO1-M (especially the 800W PSU) vs GPD G1 2024 at 100W? And GPD G1 60W?
I'm about to make a decision and buy an eGPU, I value silence of operation and practicality of the eGPU solution over extreme performance. My new 2024 GPD Win Max 2 is coming in a few weeks!
Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it. The EGO1 is very quiet. Much quieter than the G1 at 100 watts. The reason is the Osmeta is open source so the sound is able to dissipate. In contrast, the G1 is inside a housing that contains both a GPU and powersupply combined. I was hesitant about the idea of open source initially. But using the EGO1 M, I feel much different. I'm loving it because it is so quiet. I actually use a dust blower every couple of days, so there is no dust build-up. Other than that, the connection has been flawless. If you are concerned about the sound of the G1 at 100 watts, I would definitely consider another option. It's great that it is a compact solution that you can travel with but the trade off in sound, for someone who is sensitive to it, may not be the right choice. This is just my opinion but I hope this helps.
@@Slyclientthetechdad Thanks for your answer! Last question, did you have any compatibility or driver problems with a Nvidia GPU paired with a AMD 7840U? Or any stability or setup problems?
P.S.: you have a great convincing style presenting these videos, a great TH-camr! and sold me on both the G1 and Osmeta 😅 that’s why I’m undecided which one to buy
@guido841 Thank you, and I really appreciate the kind words. I find it nerve-racking making these videos, but it's good to hear the reassurance that I'm making a difference. Great question, by the way. I can't believe I forgot to mention drivers. After installing the nvidia drivers, my mini would not recognize the gpu. I needed to unzip and download (Nvidia error 43 driver fixer). Once installed on the gpd device, it then recognized it, and it works flawlessly. You will definitely need to do this, but it's easy. You should google it and bookmark it so you have easy access once your device arrives. It took me an hour researching to figure this out, so hopefully, it will save you some time when getting everything set up. The purpose of it is for an nvidia gpu you allow Oculink connection from what I understand.
Hi, I’m in the same situation as you. I want a complete quiet system. I have a G1 today and don’t like the sound. I bought the ED01-m and was disappointed of the fan noise but fixed the issue. It wasn’t easy but works totaly silent today for me and my new 7900 xtx. Cut all the mesh in the back of the fan(open hole), the removed the fan and cut the cable. Added a noctua 40mmx10mm fan three pins. I connect the fan to an external usb to three pin powersupply but you need to connect the yellow cable from the eg01-m to the noctua fan or else the system won’t start. The I added 2mm damping material inside the chassis too. Now it’s completely silent. You can connect the usb cable to your computer so when computer is off the fan is off 👍
@@adamvondory1357 wow nice solution! I ended up returning back the 2024 G1, unbearable noise even at 60W for me, I’ll think about trying your solution but I’m not that good at DIY stuff. I also saw the new Minisforum eGPU DEG1 and thinking about buying it. I have a 4080 Super Noctua arriving in a few days
I think oculink is the future of mini setup. like imagine laptop starting to put oculink port on their laptop. man I can live happily with it. I can bring my crappy laptop outside but also can do work a bit heavier with the egpu at home. I wish technology elites didnt hold this. I know some mafia didn't want life to be that easy for a regular people so they hold something like technology to come out better. sory bad english
No worries, and thanks so much for watching. I find this stuff just fascinating and glad I could share it with you
nice review! how loud is the fan from the psu? has it a zero fan noise in idle? planing to use this with a rtx 4070 with the gpd win 4 in dock mode on my desk.
Thanks for watching. The PSU and the fan noise are barely noticeable. You can hear a slight hum, but that's about it, and the only time i notice the PSU is when I use the power switch on the dock to turn it on. It's actually one of the benefits of this type of setup. When you have a gpu inside a case. The sound bounces against the inside of the case, and that's where most of the noise comes from. With an open source docked set up like this, the sounds just naturally dispute in the room. There is nothing to vibrate against. Also, unlike in the video, I usually have mine set up behind my monitor, and it is mostly out of site most of the time. I think you'd love it if you got you hands on it. Put it this way, I have a GPD G1 from 2024 and it is louder than this 4090 set up.
@@Slyclientthetechdad Thank yo so much! ordered it today, hope that this take not a few months
Awesome, if you have any questions once you get it give me a shout! Youre going to love it! Cheers!@Weiterhimmel
Great video and review. I think I'll try getting one for my setup. My only confusion is on the site where it has about 4 different selections to make. There's a 550w 8pin, a 550w 12vhpwr, G01M 800 w, and a 800w12vhpwr. I'm probably just going to use a 4070ti. Would the 800w be the best bet to purchase?
Thank you, I can't say for sure, but I think it's the 12vhpwr I was confused by that, too. You may want to do some research on it. I will do the same and will get back to you.
It is definitely the 800w 12vpwr option. The color selection to the far right.
@@Slyclientthetechdad Thank you for the response!! I'm going to order one tonight. Can't wait to get this up and running.
@ezcompane No prob, I double-checked with someone very knowledgeable when it comes to these docs, so you should be all set. If you think of it when you receive it, let me know how it goes. Good luck and Cheers!
just wondering how the cpu is able to handle games at ultra. don't the mini windows pcs have lower end cpus? would that be an issue and cause cpu bottlenecks? cpu in those aren't cooled too well are they? im just curious as i don't know too much about mini windows computers.
Good question, Ultimately, the cpu is only capable of handling what it was manufactured to do. So, most likely, there will be bottlenecks depending on the game. Games that are heavily reliant on the gpu are less affected by this. So, although it's great for my use case, This set up does not run the same as it would if you had an I9 14900k and a 4090. So at the end of the day, it's still a 4090 and is still very capable of higher end frame rates. Look at it like this. You have a 4090 running on an 8 core cpu. That's what my Amd 7840U has. Also, this set up out performers my rtx 3080Ti i9 12900k desktop set up. I hope this helps
apparently MCIO might be the next connector that will supersede oculink. I'm perfectly content with oculink but it kind of sucks that I just bought the One Dock and a bunch of oculink cables just to find out a new and better IO is just around the corner
Thanks for the info. MCIO.....I'll have to keep my eye on that. I hear the one dock is awesome. How are you enjoying it and what gpu do you use with it? I have another card laying around that I'm considering getting another dock for.
@@Slyclientthetechdad I have two One Docks. One is my travel companion and is paired with an RTX A2000 12GB which is good enough to run most games at max graphical settings at 60 fps on the Win Mini's 1080p display and with Lossless Scaling's frame gen, I could easily double the frames to match the Win Mini's 120 hz display.
The other One Dock is paired with an RTX 4060 LP which I use for my triple monitor desktop setup at home. Good enough for 1440p gaming and again with Lossless Scaling's frame gen, I can easily hit those higher fps on my higher refresh monitor. I'm a big fan of the compact size of the One Dock and these low profile, low power consuming graphics cards.
I actually have an extra One Dock if you're interested. I mentioned it in one of your other videos but after you mentioned that you were planning on using it with a 4090, I suggested the eg01m which I'm glad you made a video on because I was curious as to how it looked/worked.
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Your stuff will continue to work, there's always a new thing coming. TB5 should be much more usable
@bobbastian760 Yes indeed. I'm pumped for Thunderbolt 5 specifically. Should be a game changer in many ways.
@@Slyclientthetechdad I actually like the fact that oculink doesn't charge my devices while in use...it should actually be better for the battery not be constantly be charging especially when fully charged
Just sub awesome video
Thanks for the support. I appreciate ya!
I just picked up a UT3G. Man I totally would have gotten this if I had an oculink port on mine. I'm able to get it for 699-819 Chinese yuan depending on what configuration of PSU (Approx 97-113 USD.) I'm in Hong Kong so I can get stuff from mainland china pretty easily. If you want help in the future, feel free to lmk!
Thank you, and I appreciate you taking the time to watch. I'm not familiar with the UT3G. I'll have to look that one up but yeah, as I mentioned in the video Oculink has been a game changer for me. Hopefully you can get a device with one, or add one in the future. Also, here is my email address. Ajonesv@outlook.com. Shoot me an email when you have can. I actually have my eye on another dock and could definitely use your help in getting it. Thanks again man. Much appreciated
@@Slyclientthetechdad emailed you 👍
is this compatible with lenovo legion go?asking since im have my eye on that model but if you can provide another option will be much appreciated too
Hi there, unfortunately it is not out of the box compatible with the legion go. This Osmeta EGO1-M dock only supports Oculink. For example, the GPD Win Mini from 2023 and the 2023 and 2024 GPD Win Max 2. Also, there is a company called Minisfourm. They have some awesome Mini pc's that support Oculink as well. If you wanted to make use of the USB 4 port on the Legion Go, you could buy a GPD G1. I own one and its amazing. Not a 4090 but it is fully compatible with usb3 and 4 ports. You wont get the performance as you would through Oculink, but it is definitely a viable option for you. What is your specific use case? Is a 4090 a must have? Do you plan on utilizing an external monitor? What resolutions do you like to game at?
i am curious if they will phase out oculink with thunderbolt 5 coming out this year?
My hope is that it doesn't get completely phased out. However, I'm excited for thunderbolt 5 as well. Nothing official on the release date. Hopefully this year though. I am in favor of any new innovation in this space. Oculink will still have its place for a number of years, though. I have so many backlogged games that will play great on the Osmeta dock 4090 and my GPD G1.
Ya it’ll be a great refresh from 4! And exactly you have all the awesome tools you need already to concur many games into the future :) since I ended up getting the gpd win mini 2024 as per your recommendation (and love it!!) I may get a new one in the future if it has tb5 and a new chip ^_^ I think I may be hooked now!
@Rob7911 Haha, you and me both. Lol Once you go down the GPD Rabit Hole, it's hard to turn back. Im glad you love it and I was able to provide some useful information before purchasing. I have the Win Max 2 2024 preordered. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
Hey. I was wondering if you could do some coverage of handheld mode with a gaming handheld with occulink in the future. I realise that you lose performance. There's just very little coverage from the mainstream tech reviewer's about this. Almost as if its being avoided.
Great idea, I actually did a youtube short of me playing on handheld with this Osmeta. Check it out on the shorts section of my page. I think you may be thinking of more longer content though. If that's the case, I will add it to the agenda for videos to make. I love suggestions like this.
Excellent. Appreciate that short. Im thinking about modifying my rog ally in the future when the custom adaptor is made that allows for the SSD plus occulink to work simultaneously. And I've looked around at all the TH-cam videos, there's only a few mins total coverage of handheld modes differences and all the reviews say quite different things. Often skipping over it in favour of an external screen.
You never showed the setup ie. power bcables to the GPU. Also on Superbuy which Color/Model to order - very confusing the vaRIOUS COLOR TO ORDER!
Sorry for not showing the power connection. It's actually very simple. There is a power supply plug that comes with the device. However, it is made for a Chinese wall outlet. You can order a generic one from Amazon for your country. It comes with the Oculink cable connected directly to the Dock as well as a third plug that plugs from the dock to the top of the graphics card. So basically it has everything you need with the exception of replacing the power supply cable. As far as what to order, now you see what I mean. LoL it's so damn confusing, and it took forever for me to figure out what I needed to order. If you are ordering for a 4090, you want to order the 4th color. The one farthest to the right. If you hover over it with your cursor, it should say EG01M (800w) (12vhpwr Graphics Card Power Supply Cable.) I hope this helps. Also ther will be an additional shipping charge. You will be presented with options depending on the weight of you package but mine came to about an additional 45 us dollars.
@@Slyclientthetechdad FWIW I have ordered both "colors" (and have the cables to convert one into the other. I'm happy to share.) I really, really, wish you could just buy it with both cables at time of purchase since 4090 and pretty much everything else use different power connectors. Also have heard folks say that the 550W and 800W "colors" are the same physical power supply and the 800W has an extra fan thrown in. All in all, fans seem to spin fairly quietly "as needed."
@@AlexanderWaitZaranek Thanks for sharing. I was so confused with the colors. I think there is something messed up with the translation on the Superbuy website. To title the options colors makes no sense to me. I have a 3080ti in another machine. Which one would you recommend for that?
@@Slyclientthetechdad does your 3080ti have the 12+4pin power same as 4090 or does it have something else? Would also love to chat by email if you have time awaitz AT post DOT harvard DOT edu I really, really liked your video and would love to chat about it.
@@AlexanderWaitZaranek I'm not sure about the 3080 Ti commenting. Will check after work and will shoot you an email as well. Look for an email from Antoine Jones. That's my real name
Get the Minisforum DEG1 Dock
OMG....I want it so bad. It's priced pretty well too. Waiting in my 2024 Win Max 2. Once in hand, I may consider the DEG1 Dock
@@Slyclientthetechdadalso a new option is the Aoostar AG01 but that one has limits
@PERZN4LIFE I've been hearing about this one. Is it availible yet?
@@Slyclientthetechdad But the product is on pre-sale and will be shipped on June 26
This should work with the 4070 ti or 7900xt?
Great question. It will definitely work with the 4070ti. Not sure about the 7900xt? I haven't seen anyone use an amd card with it. Let me ask around and I will get back to you. Do you currently have the 7900xt?
@@Slyclientthetechdad thank you so much for the response! No, I am deciding which card to get ha! I have the onexplayer x1 and I just ordered the minisforum um 780 with oculink
@matthewbutler4650 No prob man. I have my eye on that Minisfourm too. No chance I'll be able to get It though. They've been making some awesome devices. I bet you're going to love it. I'd stay away from Amd cards in this use case. I just dont trust the compatibility with a device like the osmeta. Even with the 4070 Ti, you will still need to download a fix called error 43 driver. I think that's the name for it. It helps with the compatibility to use a Nvidia card. Who knows what AMD might require to get it up and running.
@@Slyclientthetechdad great info! Guess I'll go with the 4070 ha.
@@matthewbutler4650anytime, cheers!
An external GPU is nowhere, nowhere even remotely close to a priority for the vast majority of companies and the mass public who are purchasing mini-pc's. So there is very little reason for mini-pc manufacturers to include OCuLink. You can buy an M.2 to OCuLink adapter and usually use a SATA SSD as your boot instead unless the mini-pc has multiple M.2's. Otherwise, just buy or build a SFF or standard size machine that doesn't require OCuLink to incorporate a full size GPU. No amount of pressure on manufacturers will change this if there is basically no market for it. You would need to change the purchasing companies and mass public's intended use case for mini-pc's. Basic common sense.
Good take, it's refreshing to hear a different perspective on the topic
It's not impossible though..
@@MrVayolence That's like saying construction workers will suddenly start buying sedans to carry all their tools. Sure, they could do it but the overwhelming majority will not when they can use a truck/van that's far more suited to their intended use case.
Also, the desk space required for SFF builds with a discrete GPU these days has gotten extremely tiny and ready for traveling if necessary. By the time you factor in a full size GPU, adding a SFF case with ITX motherboard and SFX power supply does not require much more space than that taken up of a mini-pc with an external GPU adaptation. So mini-pc's with OCuLink become moot unless you physically need the two separated for some reason which is again, not the intended use case for the vast majority of buyers.
@@URackADisciprine Sir that does not mean that they still can't buy them though! Remember when Steve Ballmer said Onscreen Key boards would go nowhere... how are things now?
it is interesting but a regular case build is 10x better.
Agreed, I wouldn't have this as my everyday build either. I use my i9 12900k 3080Ti build for that. I wish I had mentioned that in the video.
we dont need oculink we need usb 4.2
All the above. I want all the tech they can give us. Lol I know it's not possible all the time but I'm greedy. :)
@@Slyclientthetechdad usb can deliver power and oculink dont.... usb 4.2 will be 2 times "faster"