Robbie Bussard I've seen one episode of trolling that was genuinely funny cos it was very clever and the other guy had kinda asked for it...the rest is just ppl being dicks, funny is something ppl share, being laughed at is what dicks do.
One of the best ones so far. My two cents... Inject a reasonably small Markov-chain machine into a forum which adds swearing to some 10% of people's answers, rewrites another 20-30% into short, contentless, incendiary comments, and let the rest pass.Screencap like hell.
If you like this, there's an old classic by John Cleese called "How to irritate people" it remains a foundation for effective trolling and is a must watch if you want to really irritate people while still being funny. :D It's kind of like the art of war, the details may be outdated, but the principles are timeless.
@@melgibson6331 Stop playing we all know it is a con by the African population in an attempt to weesle reparation money from the United states government. Stop believing everything you were told in history class sheep. It is really just a 419 I am the king of Nubia type scam. They want you to believe slavery existed so they can demand a refund!
One goal is to evoke the maximum number of words and effort in the response, with a minimum number of words and effort. Nothing like a 3 word line that gets some bozo typing for a half hour.
Yeah open a random video with some kind of interesting scientific experiment or so and simply comment: "fake". People will go through all kind of emotions in their replies.
@@GerbenWijnja The reverse is to have a massive transcript already saved on the topic, written by someone else of course, and post that asap in response. True trolling is looking for the right comment to post a relevant essay on. Then go back and edit the comments after posting to make sure they gave to scan it again looking for a nonexistent edit.
MY PENIS IS PARTICULARLY NORMAL. PENISES HAVE NO TASTE, EITHER. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I totally agree. His political correctness throughout the whole thing ruined every bit of troll element in his presentation.
Trolling isn't about the precise reaction or the method used to get it. It's about totally deadlocking a conversation. If you really want to do it right, you need to fuck up the whole social dynamic. What you're fuzzing ain't just an individual. It's the whole interface to a community. The ultimate aim is to get everybody else to chase each other down the hall, while they fully know that you were who caused it. The Grail.
I learned everything I needed to know about trolling from Andy Kaufman. He was like the pioneer of trolling. I'm a huge Kaufman fan. I bought his action figures and everything. I even got that underground Christmas Special he did: Through the Wormhole, with Mel Gibson.
Paul Snedden watch it, he explains several social engineering skills in order to confuse, make laugh, make someone mad. It's pretty much all about the absurd
The first 2 pages of Google for Villian Lulzsec and for Villan Lulzsec lead to no results indicating someone named Villian or Villan was a member. Wikipedia does not list him as a member either.
It's crazy that people openly talk about this and there are still people (the entire msm) that believe that the trolls are real and they really believe the things they say.
Im the opposite. Im an effective troll when sober. When im drunk, im "too mean". Im still effective, I guess, but I ruined relationships as well so it wasn't optimal And that's the unanimous word, too. Everyone would say id go too far, and when i asked what i did that was so bad they all just said "you were very mean". So i don't drink, now. 🤷♂️
Started looking into Defcon Wikipedia page, in a half hour of reading the notable events and following on some I ended up at Darknet Market Wikipedia page. Very interesting that people would even sell their malware, yet alone one for stealing banking information for $500. These movies like Live Free or Die Hard makes it seem much more lucrative (for those that don't get caught or, until they do.) Also kinda weird one hacker would stop a malware attack on more so random users, then try using one to steal from a bank.
THIS GUY BROKE RULES ONE AND TWO OF THE INTERNET IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE TO THE THING HE PUT IN BETWEEN SITTING ON YOUR HERMAN MILLER OFFICE CHAIR AND SOUL-CRUSHING ANIMATED GIFTS
metric System is crap? then someone tell me how they would say 1.115cm, 15mm and 1.35m in in foot and inches.. i actually only know the metric System well and i wonder how you make precision parts in the USA with foot and inch
@@texasforever7887 He said "You CAN'T half it, quarter it or third it". Therefore, he got 1 out of 3 right because you CAN half and quarter it". Are you having problems with maths, understanding or recognition of the facts?
Yep , See the Shirt and The Dome thing ? He is a Flat Earther too . I remember in the 70's we had those cute little Troll Dolls , Took me such a Long Time to Understand any modern meaning of a Troll , I think I am starting to Understand it :) QC
I did not get ANY of the jokes in the first part ~till 7:35. I do not understand why the audience is laughing. Are they trolling me? Or is this based on American humor that I can't understand?
I actually work with a guy who does this exact thing. He trolls people 24/7 .... extremely dry sense of humor. OMG, he mentions "Anonymous", that's what the guy I work with goes by :-)
9/11 was actually a good thing, you see the twin towers were needlessly blocking air space. Two pilots got sick of needing to go around them so one day they said fuck it! And plowed right through them intern making traveling by plane a little bit easier.
Be as sarcastic as possible. That's what I do. That's why I am excited to see"Creepy uncle Joe" has entered the race this year. That's like a cherry topper for my click.
A troll is a small creature that lives under bridges and turns to stone when in the sun. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. ~Sun Tsu On a related note. Friend of mine was a member of the regional MG club where he took part in amateur races. Quite often these events had several competitions running, besides the races. One of them is Concourse, where proud owners displayed their immaculate MGs, spotless, not a speck of dust or rust, no oil or grease, not even any visible signs of wear. At one event, my friend decided, just for the heck of it, to put his car up for the Concourse competition, straight after the race with all the dirt and scratches on it. The Concourse veterans felt insulted just having my friend's filthy car being allowed to stand on the same strip of lawn as their shiny treasures...and even more so when he won first price of his category..being the only MG-B entered in a field full of MG-As and MG-Cs....
If he submitted the talk as a joke thinking it was going to be rejected like his other submissions. Does that mean Defcon trolled him by accepting it?
levels of trolling thought impossible previously
Then would this mean I just time travel trolled? 9 years later?
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
@@whizzingbye 💀
Never TrOll the TrOlls 🧌 😅
Best point: Being funny while trolling is key. A lot of people forget this point.
WTFWalrus funny to whom?
FilthyMcNastyAzz "Funny to yourself" does actually count here.
Robbie Bussard I've seen one episode of trolling that was genuinely funny cos it was very clever and the other guy had kinda asked for it...the rest is just ppl being dicks, funny is something ppl share, being laughed at is what dicks do.
Avon Barksdale right now it's your inflated self importance
+FilthyMcNastyAzz to people who have a sense of humor, simple as that :o
Only a troll would leave his mouse pointer on the screen for the whole time
Only a troll would notice and point that out
Damn he's good!
I hovered my mouse pointer over it.
@@therealjammit Me too! Now he has a little brother IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING SCREEN! *triggered*
@@g.e.o.x.x. Clever girl...
A topic submitted as a troll, about trolling, that was then accepted to troll said troll on trolling.
*We must go deeper*
This talk is such an interesting time-capsule of early 2012, especially his language and the amount of troll faces here
Ah, the good old days
uploaded in 480p to troll the future generations...
Legit
Not to mention the shit sound quality.
@Your moms HITACHI actually the older the defcon is the better the sound quality is (normally). so i can confirm this has to be a troll
"It's like the TSA doesn't know the law", laughed so hard I almost knocked my chair over.
One of the best ones so far.
My two cents... Inject a reasonably small Markov-chain machine into a forum which adds swearing to some 10% of people's answers, rewrites another 20-30% into short, contentless, incendiary comments, and let the rest pass.Screencap like hell.
I'mma do one like this with current tech, thanks for the idea
"if your going to be a dick, you better be funny"
that is the most beutiful line i have ever heard... couldnt have put it better myself
If you like this, there's an old classic by John Cleese called "How to irritate people" it remains a foundation for effective trolling and is a must watch if you want to really irritate people while still being funny. :D
It's kind of like the art of war, the details may be outdated, but the principles are timeless.
"The metric system is retarded" LOL best troll ever
+TheSymetrie77 You're really in denial, aren't you?
+MerlinsJester There's a reason he has 18 thumbs up and you don't!
+Jess Vagnar herd mentality?
MerlinsJester I thought the pool was closed?
Jess Vagnar You think?
" do you believe in slavery" no it was just a conspiracy
@@melgibson6331 Stop playing we all know it is a con by the African population in an attempt to weesle reparation money from the United states government. Stop believing everything you were told in history class sheep. It is really just a 419 I am the king of Nubia type scam. They want you to believe slavery existed so they can demand a refund!
There's your answer.
One goal is to evoke the maximum number of words and effort in the response, with a minimum number of words and effort.
Nothing like a 3 word line that gets some bozo typing for a half hour.
Jay Sun N00b
*Donald Trump:* “Build That Wall!”
*Many, **_many_** people:* **proceed to write long essays on why a USA/Mexico border wall won’t work**
human amplification attack
Yeah open a random video with some kind of interesting scientific experiment or so and simply comment: "fake". People will go through all kind of emotions in their replies.
@@GerbenWijnja The reverse is to have a massive transcript already saved on the topic, written by someone else of course, and post that asap in response. True trolling is looking for the right comment to post a relevant essay on. Then go back and edit the comments after posting to make sure they gave to scan it again looking for a nonexistent edit.
Who knew comedy existed as far back as 2010? They really are just like us
mindblowing
This comment section has become a massive training ground to troll...
Can i borrow your usb stick please?
No, it hasn't.
Can believe that I watched the whole thing and actually enjoyed it.
Comic Sans, pointer obstructing my view, his awful jokes - this is just a painful troll presentation.
MY PENIS IS PARTICULARLY NORMAL. PENISES HAVE NO TASTE, EITHER. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I totally agree. His political correctness throughout the whole thing ruined every bit of troll element in his presentation.
@@valentinlance8072 haha.
Metatrolling
I'm just glad youweren't the one they replicated OVER 9000 times...
"i got a stiffie uh, niggas goin' flicky uh" -Sun Tzu
I have watched this video a billion times. I love Matt. He’s effortlessly funny and smart.
Trolling isn't about the precise reaction or the method used to get it. It's about totally deadlocking a conversation. If you really want to do it right, you need to fuck up the whole social dynamic. What you're fuzzing ain't just an individual. It's the whole interface to a community.
The ultimate aim is to get everybody else to chase each other down the hall, while they fully know that you were who caused it. The Grail.
Trolling is a art.
*an
*yo'ur
Your're*
You'er*
'reyou
I love how the demo gods don't fuck up THIS demo of all demos. It's like reverse trolling.
i beleive trolling is no different than laughing at disabled people. it's wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.
LOL
Trolling is society's greatest gift to humanity.
If you get mad about the part with the metric system, that just means he got you.
"Fuck metric". Best thing I've ever heard on the internet.
too bad the defcons dont put up microphones for audience responses or, at least, put transcripts on. can't hear most of the laugh inducers.
I learned everything I needed to know about trolling from Andy Kaufman. He was like the pioneer of trolling. I'm a huge Kaufman fan. I bought his action figures and everything. I even got that underground Christmas Special he did: Through the Wormhole, with Mel Gibson.
But do you have all of Andy Kaufman's ceset tapes? I think not.
Speakers: REPEAT YOUR QUESTIONS INTO THE MIC.
I miss this culture. Sadly it's mostly dead nowadays. Rip in pieces I suppose.
No, no, no it's not. Just hibernating.
MDE Sam Hyde
It's still alive on the /k/ board
Ripperoni in pizzas
The internet is just unlulz now including me
holy shit. this is some next level trolling.
"Raise your hand if you can't here me" Lol! 11/10
Internet Hate Machine It was amazing.
Wish I was there.
@@internethatemachine527 My dumb ass never picked up on that LOL
I've always wondered with captchas: What would a cyborg do when presented with the "I'm not a robot" checkbox?
This whole thing was a troll.
Is it worth a watch, Kim Robertson?
I thought it was, but I like defcon videos. The presenter was one of the poorer quality presenters I have seen but it was a laugh.
Paul Snedden watch it, he explains several social engineering skills in order to confuse, make laugh, make someone mad. It's pretty much all about the absurd
No, it wasn't
:)
The first 2 pages of Google for Villian Lulzsec and for Villan Lulzsec lead to no results indicating someone named Villian or Villan was a member. Wikipedia does not list him as a member either.
It's crazy that people openly talk about this and there are still people (the entire msm) that believe that the trolls are real and they really believe the things they say.
I don't get it how can Christopher Walken be his running mate, how can they run together if one of them is Walken?
He run slow, Chris walk fast. Democracy
This talk was the whole 8.2296 meters.
A- Just don't tell anyone at where I work.
B- Where do you work?
"a big part of what we do is manifest destiny"
'If you're going to be a dick, at least be funny about it.'
Preach sir
I gotta say, trolling was ALOT more fun, and easier when I drank.
Proxy empathy with the victims.
To be fair, you were a lot more fun, and easier, when you drank.
@@SuckMySemantics I quit drinking once and that was the feedback I got. A terrible mistake.
Im the opposite. Im an effective troll when sober. When im drunk, im "too mean". Im still effective, I guess, but I ruined relationships as well so it wasn't optimal
And that's the unanimous word, too. Everyone would say id go too far, and when i asked what i did that was so bad they all just said "you were very mean".
So i don't drink, now. 🤷♂️
The problem isn't that metric is shit, it's that base 10 metric is shit, the methodology is sound
I've never seen anyone gets rick rolled live before
Absolutely genius move, he did there⬆️
This is perhaps the best presentation I've heard on Defcon. Ever.
I still watch this every now and then.
What Is An AntiTroll?
Should have uploaded this with no audio.
Started looking into Defcon Wikipedia page, in a half hour of reading the notable events and following on some I ended up at Darknet Market Wikipedia page. Very interesting that people would even sell their malware, yet alone one for stealing banking information for $500. These movies like Live Free or Die Hard makes it seem much more lucrative (for those that don't get caught or, until they do.) Also kinda weird one hacker would stop a malware attack on more so random users, then try using one to steal from a bank.
Where can I see the comics?
rest in peace matt joyce 😞
I understand trolling, but I still can't help but wonder why someone might choose to troll or make jokes about the things they do.
cause it's funny
You're only allowed to use the imperial system if you write your numbers in hex
Wow . The goverment was really trying to shutdown the Irish this whole time . Sounds about right .
No wonder lucky charms are so expensive .
Christ...
...
"First to survive early bulletin board systems"
HAHAHAHAHAH
I can't find any references to Villian, or Villan as a member of Lulzsec.
Did anyone make it through the whole video? I made it until about 7 minutes in.
+Classic80sStuff I've seen the whole 52 minutes
@21:02 Is pure gold...Thank you audience member.
I can't hear what he says, could you tell me?
Ive watched it at least 16 times all the way through
mattboxfilm Looks like the TSA doesn't know the law
3:25 "Is that an Art?"
No, trolling is a Art.
Ctrl-C Ctrl-V 100
(also this is seven years old, good luck on getting someone to bite)
hey does anyone know where that Irc log from the hackers movie is? his site no longer exists
Trolling is a gift. As I always say..."you can't troll an ogre"
LOOK CARTOONS!! Please ignore my annoying voice over of my own power point.
What did the guy at 15:49 say?
The Irish
KorvenKorvsson
*Irish*
4:43 Actually, he didn't. He states in Matthew that you are wicked if you try to befriend everyone.
Trolling. Decreasing world's Signal/Noise Ratio since the dawn of time...
I have unintentionally become a troll without realizing it... I'm so proud
Trump: You're welcome.
21:27 this man out here casually drinking a bottle of molasses
That cursor drove me mental the entire video. .__.
THIS GUY BROKE RULES ONE AND TWO OF THE INTERNET IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE TO THE THING HE PUT IN BETWEEN SITTING ON YOUR HERMAN MILLER OFFICE CHAIR AND SOUL-CRUSHING ANIMATED GIFTS
I like the slide transition animation
icon directly above close link of defcon19 playlist banner - i see what you did there
Person of the future: "mouse cursor, what's a mouse cursor? What's that arrow doing there on the screen for so long?"
Yeah that would happen in a world where diablo immortal succeeded.
This should be redone as a TED talk
This was the best talk I have ever seen from DefCon!
Some vintage memes from 2012
Basically, he's saying all psychologists are trolls. True story.
Ah, so the shitty audio at Defcons is just the sound guy trolling! Ohhhhh, I get it now. Yes. Well done.
metric System is crap? then someone tell me how they would say 1.115cm, 15mm and 1.35m in in foot and inches.. i actually only know the metric System well and i wonder how you make precision parts in the USA with foot and inch
you take a pencil and you draw around your foot dummy, don't they teach you this in Europe school or in Communist Canada school?
One tenth, one one hundredth, and one one thousandth of an inch…etc.
Same concept as what you applied in metric.
cvas282
Still, having a cool Glock 0.3543307086618 inch doesn't sound quite the same :p
Genesis23OPB scientific notation.
Genesis23OPB you fell for the troll
I approve this message.
Missing the days when people were proud of being American
I didn't know Steve Rodgers was speaking at DEFCON. Nice talk Steve
“You can’t halve it, quarter it or third it”. You just scored 1 out of 3.
Try 2 out of 3 moron
@@texasforever7887 But you CAN half 100, you CAN quarter 100 and you CAN'T third 100 with whole numbers.
So, 1 out of 3.
@@evilutionltd you can do 2 out of 3
@@texasforever7887 He said "You CAN'T half it, quarter it or third it".
Therefore, he got 1 out of 3 right because you CAN half and quarter it".
Are you having problems with maths, understanding or recognition of the facts?
Mr. stabby haha brilliant
Dear DEF CON, if you want a qualified SOUND ENGINEER, give me a shout, I have lost count how many times you have feed back on your videos.
Yep , See the Shirt and The Dome thing ? He is a Flat Earther too . I remember in the 70's we had those cute little Troll Dolls , Took me such a Long Time to Understand any modern meaning of a Troll , I think I am starting to Understand it :) QC
MONTAGRAPH IS #1 TROLL ON TH-cam
I did not get ANY of the jokes in the first part ~till 7:35. I do not understand why the audience is laughing. Are they trolling me? Or is this based on American humor that I can't understand?
Oh boy how much the internet has changed.
I actually work with a guy who does this exact thing. He trolls people 24/7 .... extremely dry sense of humor.
OMG, he mentions "Anonymous", that's what the guy I work with goes by :-)
Boomer
9/11 was actually a good thing, you see the twin towers were needlessly blocking air space. Two pilots got sick of needing to go around them so one day they said fuck it! And plowed right through them intern making traveling by plane a little bit easier.
lol, Metric system is way better than measuring everything in empire state buildings.
Should've named the robot Roberto
in london stabbing machine would probably be called ahmed
I would like to make 9/11 jokes but they always crash and burn
M'eh.
damn this was boring. 26:32 is the best part.
Remember that time when Sesame Street channel on YT got hacked and then parents had to answer difficult questions irl?
Man trolled himself so hard just became a litAF Q&A lol
I know I'm doing a good job trolling when they tell me that they dont know if I'm being serious or not
You're doing a better job if they engage you as if you are serious without a second thought.
If your gonna be a dick, you better be funny - sun tzu
Didn't learn a whole lot but saw some good trolls
I heard, the kids at sandy hook school were going to watch a movie the day of the shooting... but all they got was clips.
common mistake is to confuse them with magazines
Dattebayo going back to subbing natuto 😂 this guy is OG
Be as sarcastic as possible. That's what I do. That's why I am excited to see"Creepy uncle Joe" has entered the race this year. That's like a cherry topper for my click.
A troll is a small creature that lives under bridges and turns to stone when in the sun.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. ~Sun Tsu
On a related note. Friend of mine was a member of the regional MG club where he took part in amateur races. Quite often these events had several competitions running, besides the races. One of them is Concourse, where proud owners displayed their immaculate MGs, spotless, not a speck of dust or rust, no oil or grease, not even any visible signs of wear. At one event, my friend decided, just for the heck of it, to put his car up for the Concourse competition, straight after the race with all the dirt and scratches on it. The Concourse veterans felt insulted just having my friend's filthy car being allowed to stand on the same strip of lawn as their shiny treasures...and even more so when he won first price of his category..being the only MG-B entered in a field full of MG-As and MG-Cs....