Make your purchase through this link for the decal: store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=DEFYN&partner_val=c56e1lgp These packs will be gone after the sale (you aren't missing much lol) Marat VLT-2 A-5C Type 96A FFA P-16 M-51 Weizman's Spitfire Rough night yesterday so the video is a bit more disorganized as usual (and as usual way too long omegalul) Merry christmas everyone and thanks for 150K :)
@BlueFood0 He doesn't understand your excitement he gets everything for free (yes ik at one point he grinded for everything but hes also pushing 40 unc status so that was like 100 yrs ago he doesnt even remember that)
The F-5C is absolutely insane at 10.7, very few SARH missiles and a radar isn’t needed, it’s hard to also get a uptier at least from what I’ve played in the 150 matches since decompression
tbh i'd place the f-5c at 11.3 and the e at 11.0, ain't no way the E is considered better than the j7e, a plane which only the f-5c and the mig19s can beat (the f-5e is a great rate fighter but can only turn inside the j7e once with flaps before becoming a sitting duck but the f5c is somewhat better in sustained one circle dogfights)
@ the F-5C shouldn’t be at anything higher than 11.0 and at 10.7 is almost perfect, with no missiles, a very bad RWR and no radar, it was at 11.3 at one point this year and it was completely unplayable in air RB
While having better flight performance, better missiler (actually not, lately im using the PL7 more than the PL5B) but with two extra missiles, a better cannon, and more CMs, the only thing tge A5C has besidesa its energy retention is its RWR
For those who might want the ZTZ96A P either because you want to grind China or because you want it before its gone, personally I think its a fantastic pickup. However that's not without its caveats. Pros: Decent maneuverability Very good armor profile Shell is the same as the tech tree ZTZ96A being the 1985-I with 464 at 100m Gen 2 Gunner Thermals Electro Optical APS (it "kinda" works, its not great with only 22 degrees vertically and 5 degrees horizontally, but its there) Really good optic Cons: Very bad reverse gear Large cannon breach (very often you get breached however it will eat the shell so no loss of crew) Russian Autoloader 7.1 seconds Gun depression TLDR: It is basically the Chinese T72 Turms without the ERA and with a "APS" (I personally have never had it do much). All in all it is a amazing pickup if you plan on grinding the Chinese tech tree or just want to have a stacked 10.3 lineup for your games. I personally fell in love with this tank and think its a bargain at half off. It does have its flaws that being its basically a Russian T72 in the sense that you have a decent top speed for a MBT, decent gun, really good armor, elctro optical APS, but only 3 crew members, terrible reverse gear, large cannon breach (and you will get breached a lot, but it tends to eat the shell), and a Russian autoloader. However it is a better bargain (right now at least) than the Al-Khalid until that's 50%, as it is an overall improvement but has an actual reverse gear. But whatever you decide, good luck to you all in your battles, and have a Happy New Year! Edit: Forgot to add but if you have night battles enabled, make sure to turn off the IRCM system (being the Optical APS) using the Multi-Fuction Menu or set a keybind. As it is an IR spotlight so if anyone is using NVD's you'll give yourself away very easily as its basically a giant spotlight telling enemies "I'm here shoot me."
On the bright (badum tss) side, using NVDs in this game is tantamount to torture and anyone doing so are well on their way to being blind within a month of active use, so big fat glowing IRCM isn't that big of a issue after all
@@hellogoodbye388 Yes sadly they are getting rid of it, it is one of the 7 vehicles that are part of the sale being removed, as to why who knows, maybe not enough revenue gain on them, or in preparation for better premiums to take their places. Well I say better but that's a gamble with Gaijin lol. It might come back via GE or a special pack for holiday events like Chinese Lunar New Year, National Day of the Party, or might even come back as a permanent GE premium.
I never saw these in game, and from what I’ve read, they’re fucking trash vehicles. So instead of letting these two sit and waste valuable store space, gaijin can just remove them and rotate some rare shit to increase fomo and sell stuff for more.
I did it all.. in the EJ... It wasn't worth it a year ago, but with the addition of CAS & Gripen if you already have ground you might actually have fun after the suffering. Keyword: Might
Get the F-5E FCU for free and slap a talisman on it. Alternatively if you want to _get started_ just pick one of the numerous low tier premiums there. Ki-27 is a bit too low to be truly useful but is very fun, Ki-44-II Otsu and 109 E-7 are both great, A7M1 is fantastic. AVOID Tada's Ki-61, 30mm J2M5, Ki-87 F-4EJ ADTW.
"The only thing the mig-23ml has, is it's engine and r24r's" As someone who plays mig23ml, my R-24R have become so unreliable, that shooting someone 2km above ground makes the missile confused, even though they are going STRAIGHT. No notching, no nothing. Just moving makes the missile as confused as a RB24 or Aim-9B. Radar won’t even lock on anymore even if they are going straight head-on at you. It has never happened to me before the december updates/patches and it pisses me off. I’ve had several instances with those missiles where they just ignore the target I’m locked onto, instead flying into the nearest ally they can find.
@@coenjansen674 The constant switching of the radar mode makes the missile panic and freak out, normal SRC doesn't really work that well, that was the main point of that nerf
It's just with how Fox-1's work. They will always go for the greatest radar return. You "locking" a target merely focuses your radar in that direction. Usually, whatever you lock will come back with the greatest return for the seeker head, but it doesn't mean it's always the greatest return painted. For example, if you lock a further rear-aspect plane in PD mode, a Fox-1 might guide to and kill a closer target flying towards you if they are in your radar's cone.
Being that F4S is not on sale, for new players for US better go with F20. You are still decent and you will have easier grind. For F5C you really have to know how to fly, so if you are new player, just avoid it. F5C is a menace, but only in the hand of experienced player.
Not really. The F-4S has the advantage that it is a 12.0 plane, even in a full uptier, you're fighting at most F-16As and MiG-29s. At 13.0, the F20 is fighting against basically every single country's top tier roster, and new players are not gonna have a good time with that. F-5C is the best choice for the new player, however I'd argue to just *not* buy anything top tier US and get something at rank 5 or 6 instead.
@@nattythepanda4692 F4S is not on sale. So i dont know what you are arguing here. If you dont know how to dogfight which new players dont, your grind with F5C will be slow as fuck. Sure you will get top tier matches many times, but its still easier, especially in top tier rumble to ambush people. With F5C you literally HAVE to know how to dogfight and use your jet or you wont do anything. In F20 your missiles still do most of the job like with F4S amd because of that is easier.
@@vasilije94 Nope, with the F-20, new players are gonna have to deal with BVR SPAMRAAMS. It'll be much more difficult for new players to learn not only how to properly notch, but multipathing, chaff, when to spam, when to burst, how to go defensive, how to go cold. New players should get the F-5 over the F-20 because learning how to dogfight is 90% of the game, if they learn how to play the game, they will not need to buy premiums in other nations in order to grind them. Dogfighting is a huge step that new players need to learn, instead of throwing cash at it to skip it.
@nattythepanda4692 if new player wants to play top tier, then it makes no sense to go from F5C. Its better to learn all of that immidietly with F4S or F20. If he needs to learn dogfighting first, then he can go without premium and just go with props. Most new players buy premiums to skip to top tier which they want to play. It is what it is. In that case it makes no sense for new player to learn dogfighting first since in top tier he will never use it. F4S is the best for US. You get used to radar, missiles, and other stuff. Being that it is not on sale, F20 is the second best option. And honestly it doesnt take a lot to learn to lock someone and shoot a missile or to defend. Just multipathing alone will serve new player until he gets better and that will be 50% of his defence by literally doing nothing. Top tier is also faster matches, more encounters to learn, more oportunities to get rp and sl. In no way is F5C better for new players than F20. F5C is perfect for someone who is researching US tech tree after already played other tech trees and when he knows the game. Experienced players try F5C and they are like its the best premium, so easy to grind. Yea, when you know how to play. When you are new, its not easy, cause you have no idea about strengths of other jets, you dont know how to dogfight, and other jets in your rank that are not premium probably grinded from tier one and they will shit on you in dogfights. While at top tier you can simply just get Lucky with sidewinder or some shit.
@@vasilije94 That's the problem though, ain't it? New player just "gets lucky" with the sidewinder and never learns how to play the game, thus feeding the snail more and more. That's the reason why we have $80 premiums now, my dude, you're feeding the cycle that makes the game worse. Second: basic dogfighting maneuvers are still extremely useful at top tier, or did you forget that not every game is decided by minute 1 BVR launches? Dogfighting with jets is much different than dogfighting with props as well. Third: It doesn't take much for a player to learn how to lock and shoot a missile, true, but those are the exact same people that will then hop into the forums crying about how "flares do nothing!!!!" while complaining about getting hit by a radar missile or how their radar missiles are going a completely different direction because they launched at ground clutter. Fourth: Multipathing in RB does not work as well at top tier because of IOG, and multipathing is only effective at 20m or under, no new player is gonna know that and actually skim the ground, not even talking about how a good majority of the maps at top tier do *not* have a flat, even ground. Fifth: F-5C is not a bad plane at all, in fact, it is one of the most competent jets at its tier, it's not difficult, and if you have difficulty with it to say that "only experienced players" can make it work, you seriously need to consider actually learning it.
the only reason gaijin wont lower prices is the precedent of people buying prems for 70$ and them (me included) feeling ripped off if they lower them now
F5c is amazing, its a low br and flight performance is amazing. i grinded the entire US tech tree with it. Best premium I have ever bought. Anyone who doesn't like it does not know how to dog fight or play air RB. You do not want to grind in Top top tier. You will become a much better player using the f5c. You will face easier planes, easy missiles. Trust me get the f5c
When choosing a plane to grind remember the multirole capabilities, because it feels good seeing how many points you did hitting bases and people, because you can get a better reward pool and more effieciency, lets see for example a only fighter. you die you did no kills you get no rp, now lets see an F4S, you bombed, and 0 kills, you got something. see?
For those thinking of Mig23ML, I’ve been using it to grind the RU tree and with quite a learning curve, but it still works. Take the R24R’s and use IR lock to avoid RWR then switch and fire ACM radar mode. Within 5-6km this is almost guaranteed kill, as long as they’re not already going super defensive. For the R60’s… good luck lmao. I feel lucky whenever I get a kill with these, despite carrying 4 of them. Overall, the 23 is a really fast plane, even in uptiers you still can put up a fight. But make sure to stay fast to maintain your chances. P.S: Learn the wing sweep, use it to your advantage.
@@gandalfdafavela1044 Mig-23 has wings that can sweep forward and backwards (like F-14, watch Top Gun: Maverick). Swept forward allwos for mroe lift and is used at lwoer speeds or to turn ebtter during dogfights. Swept back wings allwos for less drag and, therefore, more straight-line speed.
The A-10A is a great way to learn the benefits of speed vs maneuvering. It's so fun and has earned me well over a million lions. For $30, get it. You'll grind out US trees so fast if you manage to get a bunch of ground targets.
So, I wanted the av-8b na, but I settled for the F5c since it was on sale. And fellas I am not mad. I got 3 aces already 2 were back to back. And I have a 2.185KD and 57% win rate. I am not mad at all. Solid purchase. But I have played since 2014 take that into account.
The A-10A is GREAT for Air AB, its basically a skill check headon machine that can also win games by ground pounding if you are lucky and enemkes ingore u
Newer player to higher level missiles. I am only able to use the R27s with ACM mode, and obviously that really limits the effectiveness of the weaponry; how do you switch the seeker to use the R27s with TWS, and HMS PD like you are in your SU-33 video? I can switch to those modes but cannot arm nor fire missiles within those modes. What do I need to change to correct this; I assume I need to change something in the options setup for aircraft?
I’ve been holding out for the AV-8B NA this is mad disappointing. I’ll never understand why they pick and choose what goes on sale instead of just everything older than 2 updates like it used to be.
3:12 the tornado isnt even the best at bombing bases because (u forgot to mention it for lazur M), the lazur M can actually carry firebombs that ere enough to kill 1 base. So you can zomb at a lower br (and that .3 difference is enough to make it so you only face 4 12.0s which have the magic 2s and pd+sarhs). Or play as a fighter if you want to stimulate brain activity
(Ground RB Main) I 100% agree on the A-10A, easily the worst premium Plane i ever purchased. And thats coming from playing since the Day tanks entered the game. Its slow, they keep nerfing the Mavericks, so you are basically a flying target for other planes and SPAA. The SU-25K again in ground RB, It could be good, but the targeting camera has almost no zoom and makes it almost impossible to hit. It accelerated considerably faster than the A-10A, but worse load-out IMO. Love your video's, you have taught me a lot about dog-fighting.
I don't get DEFYN-s takes on the a-10 and su-25. I grinded out everything with them in like what... 3 weeks? Yeah its slow and yeah it can get easly taken out if its alone, but head ons insta win, if you have 1 or 2 more a-10 or su next to you good luck for the enemy to come close and take you out. Its not the most consistent i agree there as well but for me personally one of the best grinders for long runs rather than the f5-c or even the f-20 which is always an under dog
I got it on sale, in game it doesnt say anything about it being a pack vehicle so I got it 50% on GE, never got the 2500 GE or the premium time. also the camo I can earn with 2 or 3 wins it seems
I mean I bought it asw but I prefer it as a ge prem . I buy so many prem packs that I need something to spend the ge on and bought chally 2oes for free with 2 prem packs . Even if you buy 5000 ge it's €12 cheaper than if you bought it as a pack ?@@Promethean_NZ
Do NOT listen to the defussy here about the KVT, while yes it has more armor than leopards it is worse because of the layout. 2A4 can take one or two penetrating hits, M1 cannot, one hit to the turret neck (literal center mass, easy to hit) and you are dead. This is a recurrent issue on every abrams btw. You have a 105mm and you will feel the lack of spalling on your M774 compared to a 120mm, your penetration is anemic too And 10.7 is permanently uptiered because of the fuji spam, you will encounter uptiers every game and you will suffer You are better off grinding the 11.0 M1A1 and putting a talisman on it, very strong gun and 5 second reload
So, which tech tree has more potential in the future? China or France? Was thinking on either getting the f1c or j7d since its basically the only two nations I have available to grind yet and both seem coolio right now. I don't really have a clue what can be added to both of them in the future though XD
Got the mig 23ML and personally, while yes it’s not as good, the r24Rs just make it so good to use, also quite fun to dogfight But if you want the better one (mig 23MLD), I’d recommend getting the su11 or mig 15 bus ish and then use mig 19PT to get the MLD
Will you do an F-5C revisit? Last video you made was 2 years ago and since then it's acceleration or drag or something got heavily nerfed now it struggles go past Mach with a full 110% afterburner. It's really a terrible plane nowadays. Good turning but zero speed and it's speed retention got nerfed too. It's a Mig-21 with no missiles and no acceleration the difference between the F5C and F5E is night and day in flight performance.
I don't see it so badly. I played it last week for like 30 matches and got some pretty crazy for the tier games with like 4/5 or even 7 kills. It might be because a lot of your opponents are dumb tho. It's especially fun at head ons where your oppenent underestimates you and doesn't turn away. The dog fighting is still insane, but be aware of getting third partied. Overall, this plane is kind of bad in some situations, but if you position yourself correctly, you can wipe your enemies off this planet
9 tornados in a team , i mean 5 is too much but 9 is just sad to that we lose for sure but half of that players won't be able to bomb base because pf race to them
thank you for this video. i was honestly thinking of the Kfir, but since im grinding the event, i rather get that. thanks for saving my money. Question, what would you recommend to help me grind in the russian tech tree?
I got the MiG-21Bison on sale before Christmas but this plane requires a steep learning curve. I got the Mirage F1C, so far it's not too bad, it's totally not worth the 70 Euros IMO, but 35 is..okay. The Mirage is nothing to write home about, it's ok, not great. J-7D is the star of the show in my opinion, at 10.7 it's pretty competitive. Was expecting to buy the Viggen on sale, bit of a let down.
Get the Ariete, its the most fun and best grinder the italian tree has, trust me I got almost the whole tree researched in just a couple of days thanks to it.
It depends how well you do. If you bomb 4 bases every game, it'll get you more RP than like...2 kills. Buuuuut at the same time, if you bomb 2 bases, it'll get you less RP than a single kill. Not only that but you're more prone to being flanked and destroyed without being able to fight back if you're bombing rather than fighting. Basically, learn to play the game and fight like the majority of planes are meant to and you'll get way more RP than bombing.
@nattythepanda4692 ye it depends how u play and shi, if u wanna turn off ur brain and go monke mode bomb but if u wanna actually "enjoy" the game go fighter as also higher chance of living
after the somuas mobility nerf, I consider it a tiger 2 sidegrade that has no business being at 7.7 whatsoever. Do not buy unless you want to grind france to which you should have bought the amx-30 super instead. 1100 games on it
Make your purchase through this link for the decal: store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=DEFYN&partner_val=c56e1lgp
These packs will be gone after the sale (you aren't missing much lol)
Marat
VLT-2
A-5C
Type 96A
FFA P-16
M-51
Weizman's Spitfire
Rough night yesterday so the video is a bit more disorganized as usual (and as usual way too long omegalul)
Merry christmas everyone and thanks for 150K :)
defyn I bought the f5c on steam but on war thunder it says that I still need to order it
I doubt you’ll respond but as a newish player what pack do you reccomend?
What would you say is the best nation for air rb mainly for jets almost finished the us tree but don’t know what nation to do next
I knew I woke up in the middle of the night for something
I wake up to take a piss too, I just don't see the fate of the universe in the act.
The snail calls...
Let's be real, paying 15 euro so you don't have to fly the sakeen is actually a good deal.
this is true tbh
Nah, I'd Sak
The sakeen is actually my highest kd prop that I currently own so I really wouldnt call it bad.
Don't give into their grind-pain manipulation.
It just incentivises them to do it more.
Ok bro
congrats for 150k Defyn! It's been a long time coming
Jesus 150k already, 30k felt like yesterday, congrats Defyn🎉
50% off and STILL the cost of an entire game...
Thanks Gaijin!
We got another onee!
😭
@@DEFYNbro i was waiting a whole year for these like the grind is back, time to sell my soul to mr gaijin snail 🐌
@BlueFood0 He doesn't understand your excitement he gets everything for free (yes ik at one point he grinded for everything but hes also pushing 40 unc status so that was like 100 yrs ago he doesnt even remember that)
Bruh 💀😭😭@@dilldoe1991
I thought he meant another overly long video on the sales. I do understand waiting for sales I play more than WT.
40 tho cmon bruh 😭
The F-5C is absolutely insane at 10.7, very few SARH missiles and a radar isn’t needed, it’s hard to also get a uptier at least from what I’ve played in the 150 matches since decompression
tbh i'd place the f-5c at 11.3 and the e at 11.0, ain't no way the E is considered better than the j7e, a plane which only the f-5c and the mig19s can beat (the f-5e is a great rate fighter but can only turn inside the j7e once with flaps before becoming a sitting duck but the f5c is somewhat better in sustained one circle dogfights)
@ the F-5C shouldn’t be at anything higher than 11.0 and at 10.7 is almost perfect, with no missiles, a very bad RWR and no radar, it was at 11.3 at one point this year and it was completely unplayable in air RB
@@kingghidorah8106troll
@@kingghidorah8106are you stupid?
@@kingghidorah8106 I think you reversed them. the 5C should be 11.0 and the E 11.3 The E has better engines, ATG and ATA ordinance.
26 seconds and 2 views DEFUSSY fell off frfr
I’m going to dip a bbq brush in bleach and paint myself blind to forget I ever read the word “defussy”
Defussy?
@@Fire... Yes DEFUSSY, WE LIKE TO GRAB AND SUCK IT OUT OF ENERGY
i need the Defussy
Funnies shit i ever seen next to a pickle rick
So fun fact : the A-5C is now 10.7, just like the J7-D, so there is litteraly no reason to get it (classic Gaijin)
Is it still a rank lower? Quite literally no point in buying it.
@@MisterCaprisunyeah its rank 6
While having better flight performance, better missiler (actually not, lately im using the PL7 more than the PL5B) but with two extra missiles, a better cannon, and more CMs, the only thing tge A5C has besidesa its energy retention is its RWR
@@ZeePanzerpl7 is identical to the magic1
@@nuclearcrystal3636 yup, what makes it better than the PL5B
For those who might want the ZTZ96A P either because you want to grind China or because you want it before its gone, personally I think its a fantastic pickup. However that's not without its caveats.
Pros:
Decent maneuverability
Very good armor profile
Shell is the same as the tech tree ZTZ96A being the 1985-I with 464 at 100m
Gen 2 Gunner Thermals
Electro Optical APS (it "kinda" works, its not great with only 22 degrees vertically and 5 degrees horizontally, but its there)
Really good optic
Cons:
Very bad reverse gear
Large cannon breach (very often you get breached however it will eat the shell so no loss of crew)
Russian Autoloader 7.1 seconds
Gun depression
TLDR:
It is basically the Chinese T72 Turms without the ERA and with a "APS" (I personally have never had it do much). All in all it is a amazing pickup if you plan on grinding the Chinese tech tree or just want to have a stacked 10.3 lineup for your games. I personally fell in love with this tank and think its a bargain at half off. It does have its flaws that being its basically a Russian T72 in the sense that you have a decent top speed for a MBT, decent gun, really good armor, elctro optical APS, but only 3 crew members, terrible reverse gear, large cannon breach (and you will get breached a lot, but it tends to eat the shell), and a Russian autoloader. However it is a better bargain (right now at least) than the Al-Khalid until that's 50%, as it is an overall improvement but has an actual reverse gear. But whatever you decide, good luck to you all in your battles, and have a Happy New Year!
Edit:
Forgot to add but if you have night battles enabled, make sure to turn off the IRCM system (being the Optical APS) using the Multi-Fuction Menu or set a keybind. As it is an IR spotlight so if anyone is using NVD's you'll give yourself away very easily as its basically a giant spotlight telling enemies "I'm here shoot me."
Wait are they getting rid of it?
@@hellogoodbye388 after this sale itll go off the store
@sugoisukhoi where did you learn that and when does the sale end? I appreciate you.
On the bright (badum tss) side, using NVDs in this game is tantamount to torture and anyone doing so are well on their way to being blind within a month of active use, so big fat glowing IRCM isn't that big of a issue after all
@@hellogoodbye388 Yes sadly they are getting rid of it, it is one of the 7 vehicles that are part of the sale being removed, as to why who knows, maybe not enough revenue gain on them, or in preparation for better premiums to take their places. Well I say better but that's a gamble with Gaijin lol. It might come back via GE or a special pack for holiday events like Chinese Lunar New Year, National Day of the Party, or might even come back as a permanent GE premium.
P-16 lasted 3 patches before being removed forever
Lasted longer than the T129 lol
@dalh598.1 the t129 id at least available in GE
However it is a disspointing shit brick which got neutered for no good reason
it would come back on some special dayfor discount
I find it so silly that the P-16 and the Type 96 are getting removed when they were literally added just this year
I don't understand how Gaijin works
Probably because they dont sell at all lol
They could have waited a whole year to really see if their two new packs would sell in the winter sales
But whatever, nothing important was lost
I never saw these in game, and from what I’ve read, they’re fucking trash vehicles. So instead of letting these two sit and waste valuable store space, gaijin can just remove them and rotate some rare shit to increase fomo and sell stuff for more.
Perfect example of Gaijin's primary method of developing this game. Throw shit at the wall until something sticks.
@@sarcasmenul the ztz isn’t that bad, they probably just want people to buy the khalid now
I wanted to start grinding japan. I guess its not the time yet.
It's suffering 😢
@@aaronho1914 went through Us Russia and sweden. you wont stop me easily
I did it all.. in the EJ... It wasn't worth it a year ago, but with the addition of CAS & Gripen if you already have ground you might actually have fun after the suffering.
Keyword: Might
@@berserr1163Same
Get the F-5E FCU for free and slap a talisman on it. Alternatively if you want to _get started_ just pick one of the numerous low tier premiums there.
Ki-27 is a bit too low to be truly useful but is very fun, Ki-44-II Otsu and 109 E-7 are both great, A7M1 is fantastic.
AVOID Tada's Ki-61, 30mm J2M5, Ki-87 F-4EJ ADTW.
"The only thing the mig-23ml has, is it's engine and r24r's"
As someone who plays mig23ml, my R-24R have become so unreliable, that shooting someone 2km above ground makes the missile confused, even though they are going STRAIGHT. No notching, no nothing. Just moving makes the missile as confused as a RB24 or Aim-9B.
Radar won’t even lock on anymore even if they are going straight head-on at you. It has never happened to me before the december updates/patches and it pisses me off.
I’ve had several instances with those missiles where they just ignore the target I’m locked onto, instead flying into the nearest ally they can find.
Skill issue learn to use radar missiles
@JamesSmith-sl9kg lmao fr my mld is working perfectly fine and the r24r is one of the best missile for its br
@JamesSmith-sl9kg It used to be a missile which just tracks it's target, if it's not near ground, and instantly kills it, nowadays, not so anymore.
in my experience playing the MLA the r24rs are very good
@@coenjansen674 The constant switching of the radar mode makes the missile panic and freak out, normal SRC doesn't really work that well, that was the main point of that nerf
R24R is become a bit finicky these days. One match it goes everywhere except my radar lock, another match it suddenly become a fox 3.
It's just with how Fox-1's work. They will always go for the greatest radar return. You "locking" a target merely focuses your radar in that direction. Usually, whatever you lock will come back with the greatest return for the seeker head, but it doesn't mean it's always the greatest return painted.
For example, if you lock a further rear-aspect plane in PD mode, a Fox-1 might guide to and kill a closer target flying towards you if they are in your radar's cone.
Being that F4S is not on sale, for new players for US better go with F20. You are still decent and you will have easier grind. For F5C you really have to know how to fly, so if you are new player, just avoid it. F5C is a menace, but only in the hand of experienced player.
Not really.
The F-4S has the advantage that it is a 12.0 plane, even in a full uptier, you're fighting at most F-16As and MiG-29s.
At 13.0, the F20 is fighting against basically every single country's top tier roster, and new players are not gonna have a good time with that.
F-5C is the best choice for the new player, however I'd argue to just *not* buy anything top tier US and get something at rank 5 or 6 instead.
@@nattythepanda4692 F4S is not on sale. So i dont know what you are arguing here. If you dont know how to dogfight which new players dont, your grind with F5C will be slow as fuck. Sure you will get top tier matches many times, but its still easier, especially in top tier rumble to ambush people. With F5C you literally HAVE to know how to dogfight and use your jet or you wont do anything. In F20 your missiles still do most of the job like with F4S amd because of that is easier.
@@vasilije94 Nope, with the F-20, new players are gonna have to deal with BVR SPAMRAAMS.
It'll be much more difficult for new players to learn not only how to properly notch, but multipathing, chaff, when to spam, when to burst, how to go defensive, how to go cold.
New players should get the F-5 over the F-20 because learning how to dogfight is 90% of the game, if they learn how to play the game, they will not need to buy premiums in other nations in order to grind them.
Dogfighting is a huge step that new players need to learn, instead of throwing cash at it to skip it.
@nattythepanda4692 if new player wants to play top tier, then it makes no sense to go from F5C. Its better to learn all of that immidietly with F4S or F20. If he needs to learn dogfighting first, then he can go without premium and just go with props. Most new players buy premiums to skip to top tier which they want to play. It is what it is. In that case it makes no sense for new player to learn dogfighting first since in top tier he will never use it. F4S is the best for US. You get used to radar, missiles, and other stuff. Being that it is not on sale, F20 is the second best option. And honestly it doesnt take a lot to learn to lock someone and shoot a missile or to defend. Just multipathing alone will serve new player until he gets better and that will be 50% of his defence by literally doing nothing. Top tier is also faster matches, more encounters to learn, more oportunities to get rp and sl. In no way is F5C better for new players than F20. F5C is perfect for someone who is researching US tech tree after already played other tech trees and when he knows the game. Experienced players try F5C and they are like its the best premium, so easy to grind. Yea, when you know how to play. When you are new, its not easy, cause you have no idea about strengths of other jets, you dont know how to dogfight, and other jets in your rank that are not premium probably grinded from tier one and they will shit on you in dogfights. While at top tier you can simply just get Lucky with sidewinder or some shit.
@@vasilije94
That's the problem though, ain't it? New player just "gets lucky" with the sidewinder and never learns how to play the game, thus feeding the snail more and more.
That's the reason why we have $80 premiums now, my dude, you're feeding the cycle that makes the game worse.
Second: basic dogfighting maneuvers are still extremely useful at top tier, or did you forget that not every game is decided by minute 1 BVR launches? Dogfighting with jets is much different than dogfighting with props as well.
Third: It doesn't take much for a player to learn how to lock and shoot a missile, true, but those are the exact same people that will then hop into the forums crying about how "flares do nothing!!!!" while complaining about getting hit by a radar missile or how their radar missiles are going a completely different direction because they launched at ground clutter.
Fourth: Multipathing in RB does not work as well at top tier because of IOG, and multipathing is only effective at 20m or under, no new player is gonna know that and actually skim the ground, not even talking about how a good majority of the maps at top tier do *not* have a flat, even ground.
Fifth: F-5C is not a bad plane at all, in fact, it is one of the most competent jets at its tier, it's not difficult, and if you have difficulty with it to say that "only experienced players" can make it work, you seriously need to consider actually learning it.
we gettin a 150k Q&A perhaps? (congrats on 150k :DDD)
the only reason gaijin wont lower prices is the precedent of people buying prems for 70$ and them (me included) feeling ripped off if they lower them now
HEllo defyn!!!! What premium is best to buy for bomb bases? Thank you!
Holy moly you're here too 😂
Tornado ids
@@angelof_death4462 pretty sure that he is being sarcastic. 😂
You should watch his content, I love it.
I heard the F-5 C is great at bombing! I recomend bring no missiles and only bombs! Wdym its a dogfighter ? /s
the f-20 tigershark and the mig21 bison are very good for that.
F5c is amazing, its a low br and flight performance is amazing. i grinded the entire US tech tree with it. Best premium I have ever bought. Anyone who doesn't like it does not know how to dog fight or play air RB. You do not want to grind in Top top tier. You will become a much better player using the f5c. You will face easier planes, easy missiles. Trust me get the f5c
It was much better before the base respawn change. I grinded entire US tech tree with a lot of SL in the bank
did u bomb grind or only kills ?
When choosing a plane to grind remember the multirole capabilities, because it feels good seeing how many points you did hitting bases and people, because you can get a better reward pool and more effieciency, lets see for example a only fighter. you die you did no kills you get no rp, now lets see an F4S, you bombed, and 0 kills, you got something. see?
oh jolly, another video to fall asleep to!
slapping a giant "returned to hangar" on the front of my new somua as we speak
For those thinking of Mig23ML, I’ve been using it to grind the RU tree and with quite a learning curve, but it still works. Take the R24R’s and use IR lock to avoid RWR then switch and fire ACM radar mode. Within 5-6km this is almost guaranteed kill, as long as they’re not already going super defensive.
For the R60’s… good luck lmao. I feel lucky whenever I get a kill with these, despite carrying 4 of them.
Overall, the 23 is a really fast plane, even in uptiers you still can put up a fight. But make sure to stay fast to maintain your chances.
P.S: Learn the wing sweep, use it to your advantage.
Wing sweep?
@@gandalfdafavela1044 Mig-23 has wings that can sweep forward and backwards (like F-14, watch Top Gun: Maverick). Swept forward allwos for mroe lift and is used at lwoer speeds or to turn ebtter during dogfights. Swept back wings allwos for less drag and, therefore, more straight-line speed.
The A-10A is a great way to learn the benefits of speed vs maneuvering. It's so fun and has earned me well over a million lions. For $30, get it. You'll grind out US trees so fast if you manage to get a bunch of ground targets.
"You are not really able to take backshots..." -DEFYN
So, I wanted the av-8b na, but I settled for the F5c since it was on sale. And fellas I am not mad. I got 3 aces already 2 were back to back. And I have a 2.185KD and 57% win rate. I am not mad at all. Solid purchase. But I have played since 2014 take that into account.
The A-10A is GREAT for Air AB, its basically a skill check headon machine that can also win games by ground pounding if you are lucky and enemkes ingore u
Theres no skill to check in air ab
got the mirage F1 finally ive been waiting to get it for a while now, mirage 2000 im coming for u
Newer player to higher level missiles. I am only able to use the R27s with ACM mode, and obviously that really limits the effectiveness of the weaponry; how do you switch the seeker to use the R27s with TWS, and HMS PD like you are in your SU-33 video? I can switch to those modes but cannot arm nor fire missiles within those modes. What do I need to change to correct this; I assume I need to change something in the options setup for aircraft?
Fijne dagen ouwe!
jij ook paul :)
I’ve been holding out for the AV-8B NA this is mad disappointing. I’ll never understand why they pick and choose what goes on sale instead of just everything older than 2 updates like it used to be.
Money.
3:12 the tornado isnt even the best at bombing bases because (u forgot to mention it for lazur M), the lazur M can actually carry firebombs that ere enough to kill 1 base. So you can zomb at a lower br (and that .3 difference is enough to make it so you only face 4 12.0s which have the magic 2s and pd+sarhs). Or play as a fighter if you want to stimulate brain activity
(Ground RB Main) I 100% agree on the A-10A, easily the worst premium Plane i ever purchased. And thats coming from playing since the Day tanks entered the game. Its slow, they keep nerfing the Mavericks, so you are basically a flying target for other planes and SPAA. The SU-25K again in ground RB, It could be good, but the targeting camera has almost no zoom and makes it almost impossible to hit. It accelerated considerably faster than the A-10A, but worse load-out IMO. Love your video's, you have taught me a lot about dog-fighting.
Merry Christmas defyn
Merry Christmas to you too :)
Whats the holiday camo for the Su-25k?
If the F1C can have its 2 IRCCM at its BR, then the F20A can have its two AMRAAM at its BR, maybe one step higher
mig 23ml is amazing in my opinion. Its one of the few jets i can play very consistently with
DEFYN will these sales be on Xbox?
i actually love base bombing and the tornado is perfect
No p38k. Sad 😭
For real, one of the planes I really wanted to pick up
I don't get DEFYN-s takes on the a-10 and su-25. I grinded out everything with them in like what... 3 weeks? Yeah its slow and yeah it can get easly taken out if its alone, but head ons insta win, if you have 1 or 2 more a-10 or su next to you good luck for the enemy to come close and take you out. Its not the most consistent i agree there as well but for me personally one of the best grinders for long runs rather than the f5-c or even the f-20 which is always an under dog
thx defyn, i used your link to buy myself both the mig23ml and the mig21bis. Btw can we have a new keybinds video for air?
If premiums were $15 to $20, I bet they would make more money.
F20 at 12,7 is a joke.... Also, Challenger 2 (OES) as a pack vehicle??? ,,I,, snail...
Could it be that if this where the real prices Gaijin would win a lot more money by just selling even more of this?
not even 3 days ago I bought the OES for the same price as this new pack and now they release this with no warning. genuinely got ripped off
It says on the main page to wait for the 26th for a sale. Also every year they have sales around this time you should have just waited… ggs
I got it on sale, in game it doesnt say anything about it being a pack vehicle so I got it 50% on GE, never got the 2500 GE or the premium time. also the camo I can earn with 2 or 3 wins it seems
I mean I bought it asw but I prefer it as a ge prem . I buy so many prem packs that I need something to spend the ge on and bought chally 2oes for free with 2 prem packs . Even if you buy 5000 ge it's €12 cheaper than if you bought it as a pack ?@@Promethean_NZ
Is the mirage f1c's SARH missiles like the f-4e's where the missile will still go for the enemy if they are close to the chaff?
One of the few that doesn't do that lol
@ aw man
sadly not
What about the Mirage f1c-200?
3:38
Yeah 03:55
@@angelof_death4462my bad, I somehow missed it, thanks!
Mirage F1C or MIG 23 ML? I got china so I have the mirage and also many russian planes
Busty beavers
where?
@@DEFYNHe's probably talking about other viewers who are banging a picture of you
Merry Christmas🎉
Type 96A is approved goated👍🏼
The 530F chaff resistance works when you are lower than the enemy plane and the missile can’t see the ground.
Why not all pack are on sale?
just a correction about the a5c, it's actually the same br as the j7d in air rb, not really worth it rn
Can You make a updated Guide or recommendation for the f5c? ❤
Tornado, Mig or should i wait for Su 22 for grinding the German Eurofighter?
Easily MiG
Tornado is ok if you wanna bomb but both it and the SU-22 are incredible mid
@DEFYN thx for the answer :D
Ha! I just bought the F-5c. Heard it was more fun than the f-20 and a better introduction to jets 😅🤷
thanks, mr rizzler
Do NOT listen to the defussy here about the KVT, while yes it has more armor than leopards it is worse because of the layout. 2A4 can take one or two penetrating hits, M1 cannot, one hit to the turret neck (literal center mass, easy to hit) and you are dead. This is a recurrent issue on every abrams btw.
You have a 105mm and you will feel the lack of spalling on your M774 compared to a 120mm, your penetration is anemic too
And 10.7 is permanently uptiered because of the fuji spam, you will encounter uptiers every game and you will suffer
You are better off grinding the 11.0 M1A1 and putting a talisman on it, very strong gun and 5 second reload
on the aircraft. Between British Bison and Mirrage F1C, which is the best aircraft (regardless of the grind)?
Get both :)
bison because not french
So, which tech tree has more potential in the future? China or France? Was thinking on either getting the f1c or j7d since its basically the only two nations I have available to grind yet and both seem coolio right now. I don't really have a clue what can be added to both of them in the future though XD
So i dont have any TT with the eurof grinded, wich one would you guys recommend, i have US and Soviet TT maxed out, whats the pick rn?
Mig21 Lazur M
@tylersharon397 i waws thinking of the mig21 bison to get the EuroF Typhoon and the Gripen in the British TT to have a more diverse pick at top tier
Hiii, can u help me ? I can’t decide , do u recommend me to buy MiG 21 lazur o mig 23 ml ????
Got the mig 23ML and personally, while yes it’s not as good, the r24Rs just make it so good to use, also quite fun to dogfight
But if you want the better one (mig 23MLD), I’d recommend getting the su11 or mig 15 bus ish and then use mig 19PT to get the MLD
Will you do an F-5C revisit? Last video you made was 2 years ago and since then it's acceleration or drag or something got heavily nerfed now it struggles go past Mach with a full 110% afterburner. It's really a terrible plane nowadays. Good turning but zero speed and it's speed retention got nerfed too. It's a Mig-21 with no missiles and no acceleration the difference between the F5C and F5E is night and day in flight performance.
Yeah it got changed a bit ago. I will make a new vid in a bit
I don't see it so badly. I played it last week for like 30 matches and got some pretty crazy for the tier games with like 4/5 or even 7 kills. It might be because a lot of your opponents are dumb tho. It's especially fun at head ons where your oppenent underestimates you and doesn't turn away. The dog fighting is still insane, but be aware of getting third partied.
Overall, this plane is kind of bad in some situations, but if you position yourself correctly, you can wipe your enemies off this planet
9 tornados in a team , i mean 5 is too much but 9 is just sad to that we lose for sure but half of that players won't be able to bomb base because pf race to them
people who understand more than me, It is worth buying the Mig 21 Lazur M and the leopard 2A4M?
thank you for this video. i was honestly thinking of the Kfir, but since im grinding the event, i rather get that. thanks for saving my money. Question, what would you recommend to help me grind in the russian tech tree?
Why are only some vehicles on sale, I need the 2A4?!
WHWRE IS THE F4S IVE BEEN WAITING FOR IT COR 2 Months
I got the MiG-21Bison on sale before Christmas but this plane requires a steep learning curve. I got the Mirage F1C, so far it's not too bad, it's totally not worth the 70 Euros IMO, but 35 is..okay. The Mirage is nothing to write home about, it's ok, not great. J-7D is the star of the show in my opinion, at 10.7 it's pretty competitive. Was expecting to buy the Viggen on sale, bit of a let down.
Would the opposite of defyn be blinded
I think the PL7s are the magic 1 equivalent
what would u recommend to start grind italy
Get the Ariete, its the most fun and best grinder the italian tree has, trust me I got almost the whole tree researched in just a couple of days thanks to it.
Will the P-51D-10 ever be available again???
Don’t buy it is just like all the other p51’s
I want a MiG-21, and I'd like to go down both Germany and China. 21 Bis or J-7? The J-7D went down to 10.7 and it's looking real spicy.
The best option for Americans on the plane is F-5C or F-20?
why is f5c not available for me? been waiting for it for my USA grind but its not on my store D:
You on console?
@Darkhorse1239xf nah I'm on pc but I see in-game it's not discounted but on the site it is, gaijin moment
@@Kendr1ckB34n ah ok
Do you know if there will be a pack sale on xbox too?
idk i hope so
All the P51D's in-game have incorrect flight models and it's infuriating
How so?
Do you know when console sales stop
No boat recommendations...
Are you serious? LMAO
watching this while gooning
What you Downloading we see the Utorrent
When does xbox get the sale? I thought it was going to be with the ps sale
same
My French air tree is complete so I want to grind French tanks and I'm thinking of buying Somua SM 🧐
If i dont have any american planes is the kfir worth it to get them fast?
Yes
why is there no xbox sales
gaijin please
Its coming! Console is always later
@WSG-2ye, it is annoying that the ps sales were earlier tho and xbox wasnt at same time
@@britishbred52 yea but im away from home and if its later i may have enough time to buy them!
@WSG-2 nice
i think whenever is comes it will end jan 7th or 6th
have fun
@britishbred52 phew im home around 1st or 2nd
why isn’t the sale on xbox
Would you recommend me to grind Uk air
Up to you
No. It has Bad Phantoms and Tornados. The Gripen and Eurofighter can be found in the Italian TT which is better
yes because rule britannia
a 21 minute video to help gaijin sell overpriced doodoo
I have just buy it, the t80ue1 is truely the beast, (i carried 22 missile)
why are helis not on sale??
They probably were on previous sales , like ka-50
Yay ❤
What brings more RP, kills or bombing?
It depends how many kills and how Long u survive
kills if ur good at the game, bombing if ur below average
It depends how well you do.
If you bomb 4 bases every game, it'll get you more RP than like...2 kills.
Buuuuut at the same time, if you bomb 2 bases, it'll get you less RP than a single kill.
Not only that but you're more prone to being flanked and destroyed without being able to fight back if you're bombing rather than fighting.
Basically, learn to play the game and fight like the majority of planes are meant to and you'll get way more RP than bombing.
@@nattythepanda4692 appreciate the advice
@nattythepanda4692 ye it depends how u play and shi, if u wanna turn off ur brain and go monke mode bomb but if u wanna actually "enjoy" the game go fighter as also higher chance of living
Still waiting for those fuji and christian sales...😢
after the somuas mobility nerf, I consider it a tiger 2 sidegrade that has no business being at 7.7 whatsoever. Do not buy unless you want to grind france to which you should have bought the amx-30 super instead. 1100 games on it