Cool table! My dream TT is the Sony PS-X800 linear tracker with bio-tracing/damping system (or whatever they called it). This one seems rather similar.
Beautiful turntable and informative video! Thank you for all the vintage TT you are uploading. It's a pleasure to watch really. One question i have... do you sell them online or just restoring for your local area? You have an ebay or online shop? Greetings from Greece! Keep up!
Thanks for your kind comments, I am glad you are enjoying the videos. I enjoy restoring these great vintage turntables, some for sale on eBay and others sent to me by customers.
Hello! I have the PL-8000 v2 and love it. It was my Dad's. I sent it to Chicago for restoration and when it came back I noticed that it still had an issue with the arm up/down movement. When the stylus is on the record and the tone arm begins to lift, it skews inward towards the spindle as it lifts. Where can I find this adjustment? I love how smooth your is. Thank you again, Craig
When the tonearm lifts, it should skew very slightly outward, so that there is no inward drift of the tonearm carriage when the tonearm is up. You can adjust the position of the tonearm when lifted, but this needs to done together with the electronic calibrations inside the unit. The position is changed by loosing two hex screws at the side of the tonearm and moving the position of the little white plastic nub that engages the 'V' in the lifter. I don't recommend this unless you have the unit open for service and are calibrating all the tracking adjustments. It is easy to get into trouble. If it is playing and tracking well I would leave it for now and when you need an overall restoration I will be happy to help.
The shutter ieyes are for end of play and return to beginning, not record size or begining of record. To adjust the begining of record, an adjustment to LED sensor tube, ajustment is near elevation assembly, needs performed.Turn the brass tube to position the LED to the desired location. If the tonearm is picking up too soon at the end, cover perhaps 3 left hand slits on shutter eye plate with black vinyl tape.
The shutter I am referring to is simply identified as "plate", part #29 on drawing 10-4 of the SM, it is attached to the brass tube. This plate catches the tonearm carriage to determine the precise drop position. This is why adjusting the brass tube adjusts the drop position. This adjustment, incidentally, is not covered in the service manual! The SM has two adjustments for end of record, 7.3 and 7.4, one is the sensitivity and the other the timing. Good luck with your Pioneer!
@@Round2Audio i tried the adjustments mentioned, but it did not make the changes I needed. You are correct about the brass tube adjustment and that there is no mention of it in the service manual.
@@foobarmaximus3506 I was of the impression that Round2Audio was following what was in the service manual and the manual didn't cover this particular procedure. So he very well may know but only after opening the manual, not finding the correct procedure, and then proceeding as he saw fit.
Hi, I actually own one of these and have done extensive overhaul and setup work on it. I have noticed that when you demonstrate the suspension system (2:54) there is very little movement. Can I suggest that you check that the transit screws have been removed. There are three of them located under the platter.
Hi John, Yes the transit screws are removed, I am just pressing lightly. Just a note if the platter is at all jittery it is likely the rubber spring dampers are missing or dry rotted, in this table they are in excellent shape. Thanks for your comment.
@@Round2Audio on my table, the feet rubber is rotton. I was going to remove it and use shrink wrap. And thoughts on that or other ways to repair it? While my pl1000 is currently fully functional, is service and restoration a service you can provide? Thank you, Charles
I didn’t realise the Pioneer PL L1000 came out a few years before the PL L800! Love my PL L800, but boy I’d die to have that Jog Shuttle Control Wheel on it! Can the PL L1000 use universal stylus like the PL L800?
Beautiful restoration. Was this put up for sale/sold? I'd be interested for sure. I had one I bought in '79 when in Japan with the USAF and unfortunately had to sell it in '93. I'd sure love to have one again, it was a fine piece of machinery.
One point I was curious about, I would imagine that proper overhang would be absolutely essential on a turntable like this. The stylus would have to be lined up perfectly in order for it to stay tangenital to the groove. Is there a way to set proper overhang to make sure that it's not too much or too little?
It is unlikely you could set it out far enough out to cause damage, but the sound quality would be a bit diminished. In the owners manual you can usually find the distance to set the needle tip in the head shell. That will usually get you within +-1mm. To be perfect you can use a piece of graph paper or an old record with a line scored on it. I personally don't like the scored line idea because it can catch the needle, so I poke a hole in a piece of graph paper for the spindle. Set the needle down at two points on the paper to get it lined up properly, then tape it down. Next move the needle forwards or backwards in the head shell as needed to get the needle tip to match the line on the paper that runs through the center of the spindle. It sounds more complicated to read it than to do it - good luck!
Hello, I have the same bought it in 1982 new, having travel with hydraulic system, all the rest is good, looks like maybe seals or rubber dry is leaking, it makes all the noise as is trying to lift, please help me or give me an idea where to get parts or how to repair. Thanks in advance for any help Aleksandar
Hi Aleksandar, The elevation mechanism is a motor, belt and gear assembly. I find that thoroughly cleaning and re-lubricating the gears, restoring the fit of the motor with a sheet of thin resilient material, and replacing the belt restores reliable operation. Good luck!
So I have a pl-l000a, the damping fluid in the rear roller is dried up / missing and the arm and base fly around at lightning speed. Can I ask what grease should be used and where am I applying, to the 2 ball bearings in the rear roller or in the space behind it? Thanks
Hi Ron, Use 15K Silicone damping grease, and it goes on the cylinder in between the two bearing. Don't fill the space completely but just about half. It may take a couple tries to get it right. Once the motion of the carriage is smooth and even you can proceed with the calibration and fine tune the speed of movement according to the manual. Good luck!
@@Round2Audio thanks very much for your reply. By on the. Cylinder, would that be the brass piece that houses the bearings and by outside meaning not in the opening which houses the bearings but on its perimeter approximately between where the bearings sit within the brass barrel?
Thanks for the demo, just got mine back from having it serviced can't wait to hear it.
Hope you enjoy it!
Cool table! My dream TT is the Sony PS-X800 linear tracker with bio-tracing/damping system (or whatever they called it). This one seems rather similar.
Yes, the PS-X800 Biotracer is superb. I'll get a video out on one of those this Fall.
Please! I have one and would love to see your work on it! An amazing linear TT.
Beautiful turntable and informative video! Thank you for all the vintage TT you are uploading. It's a pleasure to watch really.
One question i have... do you sell them online or just restoring for your local area? You have an ebay or online shop? Greetings from Greece!
Keep up!
Thanks for your kind comments, I am glad you are enjoying the videos. I enjoy restoring these great vintage turntables, some for sale on eBay and others sent to me by customers.
Hello! I have the PL-8000 v2 and love it. It was my Dad's. I sent it to Chicago for restoration and when it came back I noticed that it still had an issue with the arm up/down movement. When the stylus is on the record and the tone arm begins to lift, it skews inward towards the spindle as it lifts. Where can I find this adjustment? I love how smooth your is.
Thank you again,
Craig
When the tonearm lifts, it should skew very slightly outward, so that there is no inward drift of the tonearm carriage when the tonearm is up. You can adjust the position of the tonearm when lifted, but this needs to done together with the electronic calibrations inside the unit. The position is changed by loosing two hex screws at the side of the tonearm and moving the position of the little white plastic nub that engages the 'V' in the lifter. I don't recommend this unless you have the unit open for service and are calibrating all the tracking adjustments. It is easy to get into trouble. If it is playing and tracking well I would leave it for now and when you need an overall restoration I will be happy to help.
The shutter ieyes are for end of play and return to beginning, not record size or begining of record. To adjust the begining of record, an adjustment to LED sensor tube, ajustment is near elevation assembly, needs performed.Turn the brass tube to position the LED to the desired location.
If the tonearm is picking up too soon at the end, cover perhaps 3 left hand slits on shutter eye plate with black vinyl tape.
The shutter I am referring to is simply identified as "plate", part #29 on drawing 10-4 of the SM, it is attached to the brass tube. This plate catches the tonearm carriage to determine the precise drop position. This is why adjusting the brass tube adjusts the drop position. This adjustment, incidentally, is not covered in the service manual!
The SM has two adjustments for end of record, 7.3 and 7.4, one is the sensitivity and the other the timing.
Good luck with your Pioneer!
@@Round2Audio i tried the adjustments mentioned, but it did not make the changes I needed.
You are correct about the brass tube adjustment and that there is no mention of it in the service manual.
He doesn't know. You need to ask an expert who worked on these back in the day. Like in the 1980s.
@@foobarmaximus3506 I was of the impression that Round2Audio was following what was in the service manual and the manual didn't cover this particular procedure. So he very well may know but only after opening the manual, not finding the correct procedure, and then proceeding as he saw fit.
Hi, I actually own one of these and have done extensive overhaul and setup work on it.
I have noticed that when you demonstrate the suspension system (2:54) there is very little movement.
Can I suggest that you check that the transit screws have been removed.
There are three of them located under the platter.
Hi John, Yes the transit screws are removed, I am just pressing lightly. Just a note if the platter is at all jittery it is likely the rubber spring dampers are missing or dry rotted, in this table they are in excellent shape. Thanks for your comment.
@@Round2Audio on my table, the feet rubber is rotton. I was going to remove it and use shrink wrap. And thoughts on that or other ways to repair it?
While my pl1000 is currently fully functional, is service and restoration a service you can provide?
Thank you,
Charles
I didn’t realise the Pioneer PL L1000 came out a few years before the PL L800!
Love my PL L800, but boy I’d die to have that Jog Shuttle Control Wheel on it!
Can the PL L1000 use universal stylus like the PL L800?
The jog wheel definitely amps up the cool factor! Yes, any universal head shell will work.
Beautiful!!!😍😍😍
Thanks!
Beautiful restoration. Was this put up for sale/sold? I'd be interested for sure. I had one I bought in '79 when in Japan with the USAF and unfortunately had to sell it in '93. I'd sure love to have one again, it was a fine piece of machinery.
Thanks! Yes this one was sold but I plan to do others as often as I can find good restoration candidates.
Thank you for your services , I have this turntable it's amazing .
One point I was curious about, I would imagine that proper overhang would be absolutely essential on a turntable like this. The stylus would have to be lined up perfectly in order for it to stay tangenital to the groove. Is there a way to set proper overhang to make sure that it's not too much or too little?
It is unlikely you could set it out far enough out to cause damage, but the sound quality would be a bit diminished. In the owners manual you can usually find the distance to set the needle tip in the head shell. That will usually get you within +-1mm. To be perfect you can use a piece of graph paper or an old record with a line scored on it. I personally don't like the scored line idea because it can catch the needle, so I poke a hole in a piece of graph paper for the spindle. Set the needle down at two points on the paper to get it lined up properly, then tape it down. Next move the needle forwards or backwards in the head shell as needed to get the needle tip to match the line on the paper that runs through the center of the spindle. It sounds more complicated to read it than to do it - good luck!
Do you offer restoration services- I have the Phase Linear version of this table
Hi Michael, Yes, please send me a note at Round2Audio@gmail.com
Hello, I have the same bought it in 1982 new, having travel with hydraulic system, all the rest is good, looks like maybe seals or rubber dry is leaking, it makes all the noise as is trying to lift, please help me or give me an idea where to get parts or how to repair.
Thanks in advance for any help
Aleksandar
Hi Aleksandar, The elevation mechanism is a motor, belt and gear assembly. I find that thoroughly cleaning and re-lubricating the gears, restoring the fit of the motor with a sheet of thin resilient material, and replacing the belt restores reliable operation. Good luck!
@@Round2Audio thanks for the answer and help, wish you were closer to take it to you, I will give it a try.
Best regards
Aleksandar
So I have a pl-l000a, the damping fluid in the rear roller is dried up / missing and the arm and base fly around at lightning speed. Can I ask what grease should be used and where am I applying, to the 2 ball bearings in the rear roller or in the space behind it? Thanks
Hi Ron, Use 15K Silicone damping grease, and it goes on the cylinder in between the two bearing. Don't fill the space completely but just about half. It may take a couple tries to get it right. Once the motion of the carriage is smooth and even you can proceed with the calibration and fine tune the speed of movement according to the manual. Good luck!
@@Round2Audio thanks very much for your reply. By on the. Cylinder, would that be the brass piece that houses the bearings and by outside meaning not in the opening which houses the bearings but on its perimeter approximately between where the bearings sit within the brass barrel?