Kerrunch: Blood Bowl's Simplistic Sibling - Codex Compliant
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- You catch the game last night? Also, yes, it says ‘Bloob Bowl’ in the outro music credits, we’re not re-rendering the entire video just to fix that… plus it is quite funny.
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Kerrunch is definitely one of the games ever made
It's Kerrunchin' time.
@@phonetheory7056 then he kerrunches all over those dudes
It certainly is one of the games that has been made. Thank you for sharing your astute observations, providing elucidation for those of us more cognitively challenged.
true dat
Unbalanced?
Dwarves outclass everyone?
Punishing learning curve?
No one ever really passes apart from elves?
Yep, that's blood bowl!
Not even elves can pass anymore 🙃
And college football: I think that makes the Air Force Academy with their weird triple-option madness the elves?
The 11 man team thing messed with me for a little bit too, cause I didnt even know how many members were on each team (despite being in America and having a local "football" team that actually won a Superbowl at some point) until said local team declared the fans as "The 12th Man".
I was under the impression it was 12 on 12 myself but shows what I know.
Didn't stop me making a Space Marine chapter based on said football team, with the Emperor refered to as "The 12th Man" so.
I'm guessing Seahawks are said local team? Please tell me the chapter is the legion of Boom. Anything else is disappointing.
@@elsantodelsol The official Chapter name is the Star Ospreys (direct reference, "Star Seahawks". HOWEVER; like the Space Wolves/Vlka Fenrika, they refer to themselves as the 12th Legion, the Legion of Boom. No relation to the actual 12th Legion of Space Marines, and they're officially decendants of the Fists...its a bit complicated.
There is some confusion as one of the local Imperial Guard regiments that recruits from their system also bears that title, as they're almost entirely mobile artillery. The Ospreys just call them "the fans".
If you want to play some real Blood Bowl there is an active league I Everett and BC hosts one of the largest BB tournaments in the world every year. (The Spike)
I actually was thinking of the 1995 Bloodbowl PC game, but that's because I'm still unsure it exists despite having a physical copy.
Kerrunch being the lower leagues of Bloodbowl is incidentally the greatest lore theory ever and I will ineptly fight anyone who disagrees.
There's an updated. Version of the pc game available through Steam. There's Chaos Edition and Blood Bowl 2.
I, too, enjoy the idea that just as "Kerrunch" is a junior version of Blood Bowl meant to onboard new players metatextually, Kerrunch is a junior version of Blood Bowl meant to onboard new players _in-universe._
Bloodbowl is right up there with Space Hulk in terms of quality, design and fun. It's a nice, self-contained, relatively cheap (by GW standards) and overall well-crafted experience. I think you're doing yourselves a disservice by not even trying it out!
Indeed also well ballanced even the joke teams can win (halflings,Goblin,ogre teams).
Blood Bowl is GW's best game ever.
@@MiniatureMasterClass nah, bloob bowl is better.
I do like how it was basically a requirement for elves to have enormous mohawks back in this era.
Mohawk elves are best elves!
This is why elves wear tall helmets to battle.
Blitz Bowl is pretty great if you don't want to spend three hours on a single Blood Bowl game. It's definitely more than just a simplified Blood Bowl variant. It's a shame they're going out of their way not to sell it to people though
I have been curious about it after experiencing Blood Bowl, which I felt either needed speeding up or more interesting stuff/engagement to work. Maybe I'll look it up.
@@vincentmuyo check out Blood Bowl Sevens. Seven a side, games take 45-60 minutes. Honestly I prefer it.
Agreed, it’s fantastic
Blitz Bowl really is a great way to experience the world of Blood Bowl without the time commitment or the punitive, complex rules of Blood Bowl (I still love Blood Bowl, I just think Blitz Bowl is the better game).
@@pez5767 ImO it's the better game... if you can only play it one or twice a month, while other things are happening around you and you are more interested in holding a conversation with the other player than actually playing the game. It's kind of like these party games like Ultimate Chiken Horse. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's so simple that after 2 or 3 matches there ar nothing else to draw from the game unless you buy new teams. That's why I upgraded from Blitz Bowl to Blood Bowl: Sevens, it's quick without sacrificing depth, player options or flavor.
Lol I can imagine Snipe crouching on the stairwell floor to get that shot of wib looking down and it's fucking hilarious to me 😂
I hope GW still holds the copyright to the name… Because it’s perfect for their inevitable expansion into the breakfast cereal market.
Kerrunch should be the name of the officially licensed GW breakfast cereal if they feel the need to keep reusing old names.
Better if they have a orc/ork be that cereal brand's mascot!
Imagine a big green football hooligan holding a bowl of Kerrunch breakfast cereal in one arm while brandishing a big green fist that's also holding a spoon in the other demanding gits to eat the zoggin cereal!
@@navilluscire2567 with marshmallow squigs (squishgs? Squigshs?).
@@lordofuzkulak8308
Yes.
Kerrunch sounds like a cereal brand. And thank you Tchaenus for giving the box !
The team names are ripped straight off from Blood Bowl teams. In BB proper the Darkside Cowboys are a Dark Elf team and the Bright Crusaders are a purely human team renowned for playing entirely within the rules and not fouling the opposition. Blood Bowl is a fantastic game and I personally think it's the best game by GW I have played.
It's interesting to see some of the background to this. I remember Blood Bowl from the mid '90s and recently went out and got the new box set because, well, nostalgia. Plus it looks generally like a fun game.
Ohh boy I'm so excited your playing my favorite game in the whole wide world K E R R U N C H
One day, Snipe and Wib will complete the quadrilogy of simplified versions of more complicated GW games, and review Mighty Warriors and Ultramarines (the board game, not the SM chapter).
Played this many times when I was young but it was very simple. From what I recall of those games, it was best to ignore the ball and focus on wiping out the opposition killing and crippling so many of them that they couldn’t field a team for later rounds. The other thing I recall was that there was no limit on passing in either distance or direction. So my strategy with elves was to quickly steal the ball and hide it at their end of the pitch, send a couple scouts to the other end and pass up the whole length of the pitch for a score.
One small difference I notice is the figures are different colours. In my set the humans were blue, orcs red, dwarves orange and elves yellow.
The spiritual successpor to this is Blitz bowl and it's pretty awesome, I highly recommend it :)
I'd even argue it's the best name GW has ever came up with for their games.
I would have to go with "Oi, dats my leg!"
Modern: Blitz Bowl is the awesome you're looking for.
Someone send these two a copy of Blitz Bowl(!) From my experience it conjures all the right Blood Bowl feelz, with a very approachable and satisfying-to-play set of rules.
Wish I still had the Ultra Marines game to send you. It was played on Space Hulk board with 4 squads of 5 Space Marine scouts.
Great review!
I think you are being very generous to GW to say those early 90s games were designed to get kids involved. At the time (and increasingly so since) it seemed as if they were just getting shot of a lot of their components which were hanging around the studio.
Or maybe I'm a big cynic 😅
Ohhh. So, Kerrunch is 90's Blitz Bowl. Noice☆
The modern equivalent is Blitz Bowl also by GW. But in their ever infinite wisdom, it's only available from Barnes and Noble and possibly Game UK stores (I could be wrong). I had to import the ruddy thing into Singapore but once played it's simple enough to teach a 10 year old.. plus it uses the same models from Big Boy Blood Bowl. They did the same thing with Kill Team in the form of Fireteam. It's great for newbies and getting kids into the game but again, GW only sells these through Barnes and Noble. Sigh.. and yes.. I did post this before I watched the end so that's my bad... BTW... love the videos..
It's also available in Books A Million.
I play Blood Bowl Sevens with my kids (7 and 10) but it would be a lot easier with Blitz Bowl cos the Sevens rules are hidden in the back of Death Zone. Like it would be nice to be able to get out a boxed game in that context.
@@ted_splitter I imported it and in all honesty, it wasn't that much extra. It's worth it cause the rules take 20 minutes to read and it's easy to explain to a child. Plus it's has enough depth with extra cards to use most of the existing teams that are on sale. Additionally, they also put out similar "baby" editions of kill team and warcry with the same amount of ease as Blitz Bowl. Both baby versions of killteam (fireteam) and warcry (bladeborn) keep VERY similar rule sets to their "grown up" versions so that going to kill team and warcry make it a breeze. I'm very surprised that GW aren't pushing these as starter box sets as they play very well. And it's not the old kill team but the new one so it's even better. I'm no GW shill by any stretch of the imagination but these are good fun games to learn and play in an hour or 2.
Omg, I can't believe Wib just showed us his balls out of know were, he even dragged poor Snipe into narrating the offense!
Now I want Blood Bowl, but with spaceships.
Imagine "soccer" but with Warhammer 40k, *imagine titans as goalies!*
i love these videos about old GW products. this channel is one of my favorite warhammer related content channels on youtube.
Bloodbowl is fun AF, I totally recommend it. Its not nearly as restricted as this. I think they simplofications actually hurt the game in a lot of ways and actually resulted in some of the balamce issues. Granted not all BB teams are super balanced well (halflings/gnobalars), but can still be fun to play, and can sneak in wins now and again.
My friends and I are trying to get a small leauge of parody teams going. I play the Rottenburg Ravens (Vampires, Baltimore Ravens). One Friend has the Norscan Gorhorns (Chaos, Texas Longhorns), and the other the Dwarfillo Bills (Dwaves, Buffilo Bills). We just need one more friend to grab a team to get the leauge going.
I just like to point out that there are three ways of playing football passing running and defensive. And in the situation where you can't pass being tanky always wins so it kind of makes sense the door for your MVPs
I'm genuinely ashamed that I didn't recognize the name "Darkside Cowboys" given that they were directly responsible for my favorite player getting banned! He was gnawing on one of the elves and when he got called on it, like anyone would do, he reasonably ate the referee and actually got a lifetime ban for it! Thankfully cooler heads prevailed and after massive fan outcry the ban was lifted. Simply a legend.
Ohh, is that the fabled BLÅHAJ?`(12:26)
You'd should look at a game called "Battle Master" a Milton Bradely (MB) and Citadel ( game work) board game same era as Hero Quest and Adavance Hero Quest about 1992-ish it would fit in this series .
12:18 WHY DOES THE US HAVE MORE GW STORES?! WHAT TIME LINE ARE WE LIVING IN?!
I'd definitely recommend trying Blood Bowl if you haven't. In fact, if you want to have an absolute blast, skip straight to playing Dungeon Bowl 2021. The Dungeon Bowl box set is solid standalone game and over-the-top shenanigans that you'll experience are worth learning a couple extra rules.
I highly recommend playing Dungeonbowl as well! But, you (they) are going to need more figures to play different teams
Your landlord needs to bloody hoover that landing.
"Nuffle's sacred number is eleven"
Malal lives!
I highly enjoyed the joke for yer dad. Last thing I expected in the vid was a Conferece reference.
Loving Bloob Ball (1995) as the outro.
White dwarf 141 was the first one i ever brought. That cover art is burned into my memory.
Another way to balance out the teams is to split each teams units between each other so that both teams have orcs, elves, dwarves and humans and painting them to be the correct teams accordingly
That outro music fuckin' slammed!
Blood bowl is one of my favorite miniature games
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Have you guys done a video on Spacehulk… or for that matter played Spacehulk??? You DEFINITELY should do both. I gather from your video you’ve not played bloodbowl, but you REALLY should’ve!!
I really love the Blood bowl setting, is closer to the 80s cheerful World before Grim Dark but
Try to get your hands on a box of Blitz Bowl anyway - it is fast to play and a really good game!
As an American, the most fantastic element in this American football game is the field being called a pitch. You zany folks, how could a game of football be played on a pitch, that's what they do in baseball.
Bloodbowl and Kerrunch are not specifically about American football. They're actually about a refined mid-atlantic cultural crossover between American football and British (European?) hooliganism. Hence why we call it pitch. We ain't about throwing glass bottles and pig carcasses at no "field".
We prefer Blitz Bowl to Blood Bowl, but Slaughterball beats them both. Tracking down a copy might be difficult, but it's worth the effort.
Your hallway looked worryingly like our hallway for a moment
Definitely give Bloodbowl 7s a go. It's a much faster and arguably more engaging way to play Bloodbowl. Unfortunately you'll still need to learn Bloodbowl, but the beauty of Bloodbowl is that once you learn the rules, they tend to be usable regardless of the editions spanning decades.
That intro is very Shut Up & Sit Down in its approach, and I am all for it.
Another interesting video about a game i didn't know existed! Thanks and see you next video!
I was unreasonably amused by nuffle
With the Votann (Squats 2.0) getting more of their models showcased will you guys do a model review of them before they are released?
Parcel Force : We tried to deliver a package to you, but left Kerrunch instead.
Kerrunch is my favourite GW brand cereal.
I kind of wish the default Warhammer world /did/ have the tone to support something goofy like Blood Bowl existing in the setting.
Heck, I like to imagine Blood Bowl is set far into the future of an alternate timeline were the End Times either never happened or was stopped i.e. the world (that was..) didn't blow up!
Actually the backstory for Blood bowl itself kinda implies that the battle between dwarves and orcs that lead to the discovery of the ancient stadium and the sport itself takes place in some unknown time well into the future from the years that would lead up to the End Times, could be centuries or even mellinium afterwards but nothing has ever confirmed when the events of Blood Bowl takes place since it clearly happens in the Warhammer Fantasy world or atleast a version of it but the back story clearly indicates that the relationships between races was pretty much identical to that of Warhammer Fantasy proper i.e. near constant war between them with only the invention of Blood Bowl ending the need for most traditional conflicts in favor of settling most disputes on the field of play. (though it's implied if not outright stated that plenty of wars still happen in the background especially during off seasons just not as many nor hopefully as destructive as before)
You should deffo give bloodbowl a try. It's pretty great.
Are versions of this game still available? I've never played a table top game but I enjoy painting miniatures and this looks really fun.
thanks for sharing. I vaguely remember seeing it advertised in old white dwarfs but did not know much about it.
*raises hand* I was thinking of the 1995 Blood Bowl game ;_;
(and appreciated using it's menu music as the credits theme)
Imagine being so big your friends with well known people in your community but small enough to make jokes specifically for your dad
Thanks for the video. I knew of the game but never saw it before. I love a good game of Blood Bowl and as I live in the UK too, I’m disappointed that I can’t find Blitz Bowl anywhere.
Never played bloodbowl.. But you've played Space Fleet and Kerrunch. Those are some choices.
You folks should definitely track down Blitz Bowl. It’s a fantastic game, better than Blood Bowl IMO
That's a shame it didn't convince you to play bloodbowl you two should try blood bowl 7s is super fun and a great way to get into bloodbowl.
Please get into Blood Bowl guys. I love all of your videos but I actually play Blood Bowl whereas I haven't played 40K since the 1990s when I was at school.
Many reasons to love Blood Bowl. The miniatures are GREAT and it's easy to start collecting cos you commit to a team of 11-16 players rather than a whole army (I painted 22 teams over lockdown).
The basic rules are pretty simple, I think tackle zones can be confusing but like, it is way simpler than a lot of games, and while there are a lot of player skills to keep on top of, you only *really* need to understand the skills your own players have (although it's wise to have some familiarity with your opponent's skills too for obvious reasons). And there's Blood Bowl Sevens which is even quicker and sometimes sillier and only takes about an hour to play. My favourite GW game. Do a couple of teams each and run your own 2-coach tournament, I reckon.
When playing Space Fleet, I just took to painting out the 7 - 12 on a D12 and counting them as misses, to get around the rolling in the lid mechanic.
I always thought GW should have written into the Warhammer Fantasy lore that in the Fantasy World use to be peaceful as everyone played Blood Bowl but then it got all out of hand as matches got fixed and the rivalry between teams escalated and eventually all out war broke out, which is Warhammer fantasy battles :)
I like the idea of an alternate version of the End Times, where instead of the world being destroyed, peace was declared. And all the violence and rivalries instead play out on the Blood Bowl field.
@@Bluecho4 That would be awesome :)
@@Bluecho4
That's basically the entire lore of Blood Bowl, before the game it was typical apocalyptic wars between races but now they settle most conflicts through the sacred game as decreed by Nuffle, god of the field of play. Though it is implied if not outright stated that traditional wars still happen, especially between the seasons of the sport but there's just not as many anymore and (hopefully) not nearly as destructive.
I was today years old when I learned why Nuffle is called Nuffle.
don't feel bad, it only clicked for me some time last year (i think there was a bit of fluff about how a rulebook fell through a dimensional rift or something-so it's not just that the god of blood bowl happens to have a funny name, it's because a book with "nuffle rules" was literally transported to the warhammer universe, and the locals assumed it was some kind of sacred text)
I've found that here in the UK the american only games can sometimes be found in GAME stores.
Nice football joke Wib.
I remember playing a later release in the mid 90s. Me and my mate going half's on it, can't remember how much we paid for it but would have been a lot cheaper than the current version. I played Orks and my mate played humans, mainly because they were the teams you got, we both bought Star players, I got a troll. One of are other mates got a high elf team.
Had some good times playing Blood Bowl.
Great review, I knew very little about it.
It's fun to type too!
Kerrrrrrrr-UNCH!
I have that shark. We've named him Terry.
Big Blahaj fan! The rest of the video was pretty cool too I guess
It's always a good day when we get a new codex compliant. :)
Shout out to Wib's Dad
sorry snipe. this is Necro City Reapers turf. join the graveyard!
9:09 had me laughing out loud, some things never change I guess
Blood Bowl has the lightest and most easily learned rule-sets of any GW game! It is also, in my opinion, the best thing that GW has ever released, with 3rd edition being favourite which I played an absolute ton back in the day!
In BB a team has up to 16 members, only 11 being legally allowed on the pitch at any one time, the rest being substitutes.
With all the differences here, I would say the proper game does things far better all around.
Set movement for each player depending on race and position played,
Separate block dice to determine the outcome of blocks, number of dice determined by comparative Strength
All players can pass, but some are better than others, as determined by their Agility (Dwarves are a bit rubbish!)
Starting on the scrimmage line and one team kicking the ball into the other half so the action starts straight away! (I'm guessing the first few turns for Kerrunch were spent frantically trying to get your players to the ball!)
Finally a set number of turns rather than "first to 3 TD" makes it feel more like a game played to a time-limit and makes a tense end-of-game if/when you're trying to get that last TD to steal the game! (and oh, how you curse when your player trips over his own feet, from trying to run too fast, and face-plants inches from the line as the final whistle blows!)
But yes, from what's said here, I wouldn't bother with Kerrunch, find online the 3rd edition rules/4thEd Living Rulebook and have fun! Not tried current rules so can't comment on them, but by Nuffle some of the new models are gorgeous!
"How niche can we make a video and have people still watch it"
12:49 blooby hell man.
Brilliant video n I've never played blood bowl or kerrunch, though I did buy a pack of some blood bowl chaos (?) Players to customise into chaos cultists for a 40k game.
Third edition was the best edition, only nineteen pages of rules, perfect 🥰
Thanks for the video; never played either Kerrunch or Blood Bowl myself, but I did play Warhammer Fantasy. What I find odd here is that one team is made up of Orcs and Elves. Now Orcs and Dark Elves would have made sense, but these models are very clearly Wood Elves. Ah well, maybe there were no plastic Dark Elves so they just included the Elves they had...
There are 3 Universal Truths: 1. Everything is impermanent and changing 2. Impermanence leads to suffering, making life imperfect and 3. Every single GW game has an "Only Dick's Play This" Faction, in this case, Dwarfs.
Nuffle=NFL. Over 25 years of playing this game, and I... I just never realized where that name came from... 🙈🙈🙈
Dark side cowboys are presumably Dallas? Late 80s would be roughly same time as Bill Bryson was complaining about their fans being vicious.
I thought I recognised those orcs and humans. I’ve got that early bloodbowl in my pile of shame basically complete
Is that a Blahaj plush I see on top of the couch? 🦈
Can we go back to when rugby football was basically an entire violent village fight to get a ball to another village?
10 to 15 percent, i see what u did there 🤣
The glorious imagination of Jervis Johnson 🤪 and I absolutely love it 😀
Blood Bowl has held some vague interest for me for many years, even if it's only to pull out some Lizardmen when someone mentions fantasy football.
Hey nothing wrong with that, especially since lizards are one of the best teams.
@@christracey5813 Praise Sotek, there's my motivation
Need…to…paint…minis…rising…
Next Vid should be on Battle Masters game, similar concept simplify war hammer
Don’t play blood bowl tabletop but I do love some of the models. I do play the pc versions and is probably the only football esc like game I actually like.
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So I have a question for you guys, I just made a custom kurrunch set because my brother wants to play, but he wants to play the Darkside Cowboys, do you think making the dwarves slower would make it balanced?