One thing I realized after making the video is that gloves of passage is a really low volume item so if you can't buy it for 5m, then you might as well just go for the masterwork gloves
@@outdoorkiller8703 it's not useful in very many places because the few enemies it works on are usually better done with scythe or spear. All maul does is make you hit over the hit cap which is wasted damage anyways
@@TheModdedwarfare3 not wasted with grimoire. also will make avg hit higher. but still, i dont even use maul. zgs, khops, spear and scythe all already enough switches for me.
I created my account 15 years ago and I just now, today, started playing again after 6 year break and holy moly the game has changed a lot! Thank you for your video! It would have been easier to navigate if you included levels in all setups since I'm only lvl 80s in the melee stats. But that's fine. Cheers! Looking forward to more content. Subscribed :)
This actually exactly describes my current setup, up until the base masterwork w/ scythe and mwspear at least. This is actually really helpful to know what switches to go for first, as I’m almost exactly at where this video is halfway through, I also show this to friends for them to know what to go for. Cheers Was
I came back from a 10 year break. I decided to get 99 prayer first, git curses, bought a EOF amulet, luck of dwarves and death touch bracelet. Still 75 attack so im usin a GS. 60 def, using drag armor. But felt prayer was the best thing to invest in first.
@@climbandslackline487 for mage to be even remotely close to other styles u need to 4taa, wich is the elitist part. and even withg 4taa. a revo++ bar for ranged can do more dps
Thank you very much! But I think that is better to buy greater barge first... the rotation changes a lot so is better to get it first and start to learn how to use it properly
at 7:22 you mentioned that the bleeds from the spear last "50% as long" but you have the correct way of saying in in the graphic. Might be worth highlighting that you actually mean 50% longer, or 150% as long or something. Other than that, great video as always!
you can use a ECB and wear ruby bolts + bring a SGB EoF so you can get ruby procs on SGB specs when meleeing. The alloy spikes still function from inventory, so you're only giving up inventory space. I commonly do this at aod, since I melee MT and SGB spec the first and third pillar .
malevolence prayer and zgs are such big upgrades, don't buy stuff like greater flurry before getting them ! tmw is also a great investment to do early if you want to do elite dungeons.
Im not playing rs3 since last year so maybe I'm wrong but, I remember that drygore mace > longsword and rapier cuz the freedom + OH aa just because mace are faster and long/rapier are fast, so that means that you have to be perfect and don't miss a tick to get the auto release, maybe I'm wrong because as I said it was a long time ago for me but, if you can check the info it would be nice, also great video :)
That's a great PSA but some solo bosses (BSD and Ambi for example) aren't always that "worth it" unless going for speedkills. So you can ditch the Flanking Switch and buy/save for something else.
you can req assist for adrenaline renewals?! Man I wish i'd known that. Still, I have a LOT of adrenaline-super restore combo pots to burn through before then.
Only really get drls for making aftershock perks. In regards to damage output, if you have 100% or at least very high hit chance the masuta spear dors t82 damage while the drl does t80 damage. Tiny difference but its later on that 2% difference is bigger then the difference between rune swords and dark shards of leng
Hey Waswere, do you know how viable T85 Dark Ice combo would be instead of drygores? It's absurdly cheap right now. Or would I be better off grabbing Drygores MH+OH (around 30m more for both)
hi waswere, in regard of building for PVM and slayer would you recommend to focus on building a particular combat style at a time or equally building all?
7:30 no you dont wanna get lunging 4. As its as strong as Lunging 1 (so far at least for melee abilities). if u dont believe me go to a training dummy and test max hit and minimum hit with L4 and L1 on the spear. And a T99 prayer with a T90 weapon is stronger then a t95 pray and a T92 weapon. might wanna upgrade for the T99 prayer much much earlier even before getting a T92 weapon...
Can you please explain this comment further? Currently I have AS4,P2 & L4,E2 on my spear and have the t99 prayer. Would I have been better off putting P6,L1 & AS4,E2 instead? Wouldn't L4 deal more bleed damage...
Would A4 +L4E2 Not be better on MWSA than P6A1+L4E? You don't actually benefit from the Precise for bleeds anyway, so it's better to have the A4 on the off-chance that Aftershock goes off while you're applying your bleeds.
so i'm a bit of a scrub. I really want tmw because i've always wanted-liked the higher end armor in games. I've bought 3/5 and I see that I may have made a fairly big mistake in that regards. Do I finish buying the rest of the set and make it custom fit and keep it as a perm upgrade? or do I bite the bullet and repair and resell? I figured at least getting the set effect would benefit me greatly in learning various pvm in general
Range: 20b Melee: 7b Mage, before GWD3: ~5b Mage, after GWD3: ~10b That's my guess anyway, great vid as always, looking forward to the mage video, and the buffs Jagex brings to it (please Jagex, I need this, mage is my favourite style)
Thank you so much for this I have one question as i was unlucky with last weeks wishes Is Aftershock4/Ruthless 1 better than Precise 6? Edit: Nvm, just saw the little notice @21:10
If money is tight and can't make new tries for aftershock 4 eq2 you can also use that aftershock 4 and make make precise 6 eq1 as precise 6 eq2 is more expensive to make than aftershock 4 eq2 on average. Also works for dw if you use aftershock 4 on main hand and p6 eq1 on off hand. This is what I did with my 2/4 failed attempts from the wish (other 2 were as3 r1 and eq2 r1 so they went straight to the bin)
I’ve always been the merchant type of player where I like to gather or make items and sell them for money. Never really was into combat but now that I want to do combat, I’m completely lost!
Melee only has enough adrenaline between berserk rotations for either zgs or the new t95 2h weapon spec and the new t95 spec does more damage. Also melee right now is considered the worst style in terms of dps and ease of use, that´s why zgs is a lot cheaper nowadays.
@@kevinsilva1109 seems like a steal to me. Theres no way i can afford the new t95 and to get the same dps on range that i have on melee would cost so much more
mmmm I remember when Abyssal whip used to be the one only weapon everybody wanted to have.. 2.5m non degradable. Now this..dunno what crap to buy and what perk to use.
@waswere Love your vids! I don't really get going for melee though? I got BiS melee with all switches and I do less dps than just camping asc's with grico?
If you have the time, do a mage set up before elder god wars drops and then after if the meta changes. 2 videos, more views and the second video will probably be the same as the first but with a few simple tweaks. Though the prices for the magic gear is currently in flux so maybe it’s not a viable video to make right now 🤷🏻♂️
Dragonrider Lance needs some recognition 😔 Pretty OP in Ed3, G.W.D 1 and G.W.D 2. Personally I upgraded to a Cinderbane before a T90 wep. Those gloves are use pretty much everywhere in game whereby the scythe and Spear are more so specific areas.
Only thing I disagree on is the gloves, I'd just stick with Bandos until regular Masterwork gloves are affordable. Even Razorbacks might be a cheap disposable option. Just stay t away from the noob trap that is Pneumatic gloves.
I'd also like to add that bladed dive is a decent AOE ability with a halberd ranged weapon for slayer. Considering the ability resets if a target is killed within 6 seconds, it's quite good for slayer. Also, you misspelled Laniakea's Spear twice. Laniekea's Spear @ 5:00 and Lanikea's Spear at 5:40
Bought the khopeshes for like 500 - 600m and Melee is much more cheaper right now, i would take the chance to buy zgs (700m) and Khopeshes (500 - 600m both) The T95 arent so awesome, but still a nice upgrade because of the Hurricane Abillity.
Thank you for saying grim is not viable anywhere but solak because there's a lot of toxic elitists who try to peer pressure people to drain 7m/hr for 7-8% extra dps. It's just not cost efficient or effective.
"500m per praesul codex? and I'd need THREE of these for all 3 styles? No thanks, I'll wait for them to drop in price." * checks this video * "Wait, 705m?! That can't be right, let me check the GE guide price." *881M?!?!?!*
Dude, Where's the Mage gearing guide? I'm over on reddit telling a returning player you've got the monopoly on the best gearing guides locked off and I find there isn't a mage version? C'mon man, how'm I supposed to expelliarmus muh f'kas in the face if I'm still running round in Ahrims at 120 magic?
One thing I realized after making the video is that gloves of passage is a really low volume item so if you can't buy it for 5m, then you might as well just go for the masterwork gloves
The only other thing I can think of that is pretty amazing to have, the 850m big daddy T-Maul
@@outdoorkiller8703 it's not useful in very many places because the few enemies it works on are usually better done with scythe or spear. All maul does is make you hit over the hit cap which is wasted damage anyways
@@TheModdedwarfare3 not wasted with grimoire. also will make avg hit higher.
but still, i dont even use maul. zgs, khops, spear and scythe all already enough switches for me.
I like your funny words magic man
hey is it possible to make a melee/magic hybrid in rs3 ? longtime oldschool runescape player here
I created my account 15 years ago and I just now, today, started playing again after 6 year break and holy moly the game has changed a lot! Thank you for your video! It would have been easier to navigate if you included levels in all setups since I'm only lvl 80s in the melee stats. But that's fine. Cheers! Looking forward to more content. Subscribed :)
An updated melee guide would be golden
Stay strong bröther it will come one day
Just yesterday I was looking for this exact video. Thanks a bunch
Great guide, i'm surprised you didin't mention Terrasaur maul in the niche item section
This actually exactly describes my current setup, up until the base masterwork w/ scythe and mwspear at least. This is actually really helpful to know what switches to go for first, as I’m almost exactly at where this video is halfway through, I also show this to friends for them to know what to go for. Cheers Was
It's 6am and here I am!
Good shit getting this out, love your guides
Im currently working on maxing and I love how simplistic you've made your video.
I came back from a 10 year break. I decided to get 99 prayer first, git curses, bought a EOF amulet, luck of dwarves and death touch bracelet. Still 75 attack so im usin a GS. 60 def, using drag armor. But felt prayer was the best thing to invest in first.
We love these Was! Keep it up
Just when I needed it, thanks!
I know it's memed on, but I'm really looking forward to your mage gearing and upgrade order. Well done with this guide though.
People are coocoo man magic is good unless your in the top 1% of players really.
@@climbandslackline487 yeah magic is really useful for enchanting bakriminel bolts and vengeance. idk why everyone calls it bad
@@adaidan1227 just wierd elitists IMO.
@@climbandslackline487 for mage to be even remotely close to other styles u need to 4taa, wich is the elitist part. and even withg 4taa. a revo++ bar for ranged can do more dps
Keep up the great work!
What's the spikes in the arrow slot?
Thank you very much! But I think that is better to buy greater barge first... the rotation changes a lot so is better to get it first and start to learn how to use it properly
Perfect timing. Thank you for the video!!
Hey man thank you this is totally awsome i definitely needed this in my life gonna be buying a few upgrades when i log on haha
Hey really appreciate the guide, also you sound Jordan Peterson-esk lol i enjoyed the commentary!
would love to see your thoughts how this guide would still be relevant based on the combat update
YOU'RE THE MAN !!
Nice guide man!!
Mean walk through dude !!
Yesssiiirrrrr, I've been waiting for this one
at 7:22 you mentioned that the bleeds from the spear last "50% as long" but you have the correct way of saying in in the graphic. Might be worth highlighting that you actually mean 50% longer, or 150% as long or something. Other than that, great video as always!
does laniakea spear work against ed3 trash? or keep masuta warspear? is the necklace still good without soulsplit?
you can use a ECB and wear ruby bolts + bring a SGB EoF so you can get ruby procs on SGB specs when meleeing. The alloy spikes still function from inventory, so you're only giving up inventory space. I commonly do this at aod, since I melee MT and SGB spec the first and third pillar .
malevolence prayer and zgs are such big upgrades, don't buy stuff like greater flurry before getting them ! tmw is also a great investment to do early if you want to do elite dungeons.
I learned some good stuff here, thanks!
With the new weapons if we have T95 weapons would you suggest putting a Zaros godsword in the EoF amulet for the special over the statis hammer?
magic to complete the guide
Im not playing rs3 since last year so maybe I'm wrong but, I remember that drygore mace > longsword and rapier cuz the freedom + OH aa just because mace are faster and long/rapier are fast, so that means that you have to be perfect and don't miss a tick to get the auto release, maybe I'm wrong because as I said it was a long time ago for me but, if you can check the info it would be nice, also great video :)
Your gearing upgrade path guides are much better than protoxx, please make a mage one!!
You can use your flanking switch at solo encounters if you walk under the target and hit him.
That's a great PSA but some solo bosses (BSD and Ambi for example) aren't always that "worth it" unless going for speedkills. So you can ditch the Flanking Switch and buy/save for something else.
Great and helpful video. Any advice on order changes for an iron who’d prefer to keep switches low?
Where do you think you would slot in the reaver's ring if you were doing a lot of low-risk content like GWD2? Before the tier 92s?
you can req assist for adrenaline renewals?! Man I wish i'd known that. Still, I have a LOT of adrenaline-super restore combo pots to burn through before then.
So would you say that the dragonrider lance isn't a good buy? It's been my main melee weapon for a long time
More importantly,is it a good fashionscape buy?
Only really get drls for making aftershock perks.
In regards to damage output, if you have 100% or at least very high hit chance the masuta spear dors t82 damage while the drl does t80 damage.
Tiny difference but its later on that 2% difference is bigger then the difference between rune swords and dark shards of leng
Same haha been using that weapon for 2 years now XD
what is the book you have in your set-up?
Hey Waswere, do you know how viable T85 Dark Ice combo would be instead of drygores? It's absurdly cheap right now. Or would I be better off grabbing Drygores MH+OH (around 30m more for both)
Was waiting for this to see how broke I am 😭
Pongase a chambear en sus Reaper Tasks y va a ver como gana un chingo de lana rapido. Pero solito, solito, nada de clanes jaja.
Right ! Hahaha how many people really habe 11b melee swtups? Is it really common?
@@jaketheriault8268 nope
Yeah it's malarkey
Hawtdamn I love melee, very nice guide.
Awesome vid, didnt watch the range one because I hardly ever range but I didnt realize it was this good. Where the tmaul at though?
I forgot it :(
@@WaswereRS Only thing I have left to upgrade for melee.
How is starting out with T70 gear a lowly noob?
Honestly I think I’m broke (67m cash stack atm) but there are some simple low cost upgrades I can do/change. Thanks for the tips!
hi waswere, in regard of building for PVM and slayer would you recommend to focus on building a particular combat style at a time or equally building all?
Get melee first, its the cheapest to get at a reasonable level (t90s etc) and then from there you can build out the other styles
Can you please go over a general skill bar set up?
Great! Now I just need 7.4B! 😎
Bruh phones and maul speak is ridiculous hahah I love it
What is in your ammo slot?
Is there a way you can create a google spreadsheet for the order?
You should do these combat gearing guides but design them for the ironman track of gear progression!
7:30 no you dont wanna get lunging 4. As its as strong as Lunging 1 (so far at least for melee abilities). if u dont believe me go to a training dummy and test max hit and minimum hit with L4 and L1 on the spear.
And a T99 prayer with a T90 weapon is stronger then a t95 pray and a T92 weapon. might wanna upgrade for the T99 prayer much much earlier even before getting a T92 weapon...
Can you please explain this comment further? Currently I have AS4,P2 & L4,E2 on my spear and have the t99 prayer. Would I have been better off putting P6,L1 & AS4,E2 instead? Wouldn't L4 deal more bleed damage...
@@RRSolid whats the max hit bleed you do with dismember right now?
Would A4 +L4E2 Not be better on MWSA than P6A1+L4E? You don't actually benefit from the Precise for bleeds anyway, so it's better to have the A4 on the off-chance that Aftershock goes off while you're applying your bleeds.
so i'm a bit of a scrub. I really want tmw because i've always wanted-liked the higher end armor in games. I've bought 3/5 and I see that I may have made a fairly big mistake in that regards. Do I finish buying the rest of the set and make it custom fit and keep it as a perm upgrade? or do I bite the bullet and repair and resell? I figured at least getting the set effect would benefit me greatly in learning various pvm in general
id finish the set and custom-fit it.
TMW is amazing and you can make more using it than selling
@@TrevDawgRS already finished it long ago, don't regret it one bit but thank you for the response :)
Range: 20b
Melee: 7b
Mage, before GWD3: ~5b
Mage, after GWD3: ~10b
That's my guess anyway, great vid as always, looking forward to the mage video, and the buffs Jagex brings to it (please Jagex, I need this, mage is my favourite style)
Thank you so much for this
I have one question as i was unlucky with last weeks wishes
Is Aftershock4/Ruthless 1 better than Precise 6?
Edit: Nvm, just saw the little notice @21:10
If money is tight and can't make new tries for aftershock 4 eq2 you can also use that aftershock 4 and make make precise 6 eq1 as precise 6 eq2 is more expensive to make than aftershock 4 eq2 on average. Also works for dw if you use aftershock 4 on main hand and p6 eq1 on off hand. This is what I did with my 2/4 failed attempts from the wish (other 2 were as3 r1 and eq2 r1 so they went straight to the bin)
I’ve always been the merchant type of player where I like to gather or make items and sell them for money. Never really was into combat but now that I want to do combat, I’m completely lost!
This needs an update 😊
magic gearing guide coming soon?
This is my main set up with dual khopeshes and off hand khopesh flank swap
And here I was feeling confident just bc I got as4 gizmos. Oh well back to the grind
Wow, as on osrs player this looks really overwhelming, I’m not hating just pointing it out & I played eoc for a little bit back in the day.
What are the Items in the Arrow slots?
armour spikes (Alloy), I believe
@@joaopedrocachadalagrifa261 thx, they are made with 90 smithing, right?
@@dalmatiner96 for the alloy version I think you need 99, check it out on the wiki tho! :D
No deathtouch bracelet?
No.
Is it worth going this route for slayer? Or is the maintenance cost too high?
Yeah I’d say stick with a nox scythe for slayer
I skipped the masterwork spear and went straight for the zgs as it only cost me 510m. I don't understand why it's so cheap but hey I'll take it
Melee only has enough adrenaline between berserk rotations for either zgs or the new t95 2h weapon spec and the new t95 spec does more damage. Also melee right now is considered the worst style in terms of dps and ease of use, that´s why zgs is a lot cheaper nowadays.
@@kevinsilva1109 seems like a steal to me. Theres no way i can afford the new t95 and to get the same dps on range that i have on melee would cost so much more
mmmm I remember when Abyssal whip used to be the one only weapon everybody wanted to have.. 2.5m non degradable. Now this..dunno what crap to buy and what perk to use.
Thank you!
Can you update this?
@waswere Love your vids! I don't really get going for melee though? I got BiS melee with all switches and I do less dps than just camping asc's with grico?
i'm just a scrub. But maybe that's just a testament to how good grico is?
If you have the time, do a mage set up before elder god wars drops and then after if the meta changes. 2 videos, more views and the second video will probably be the same as the first but with a few simple tweaks. Though the prices for the magic gear is currently in flux so maybe it’s not a viable video to make right now 🤷🏻♂️
No shields in the whole video. Genuinely curious, does anybody use them for high level Pvm, at least as a switch?
Defenders are better but if you dont feel like getting them then a t90 shield will do. And yes pretty much everyone uses a shield switch
Yeah as a switch. Elder Rune Shield for a while and then Malevolent when you can
Yes. Shield switch is very important for high level pvm. Doesn't cost a lot though.
lawn-ee-ah-kay-ah
What is this order?? Did you come up with this???
PVME
Part me, Part PvMe, Part my friends critiquing it.
PvME has the big picture items, but it doesn't have small things or multi-style things
@@WaswereRS Thanks dude. Never would hae thought i should do things like this.
That’s my dad!
Dragonrider Lance needs some recognition 😔 Pretty OP in Ed3, G.W.D 1 and G.W.D 2. Personally I upgraded to a Cinderbane before a T90 wep. Those gloves are use pretty much everywhere in game whereby the scythe and Spear are more so specific areas.
why off-hand khopesh first?
21:45
Only thing I disagree on is the gloves, I'd just stick with Bandos until regular Masterwork gloves are affordable. Even Razorbacks might be a cheap disposable option. Just stay t away from the noob trap that is Pneumatic gloves.
I'd also like to add that bladed dive is a decent AOE ability with a halberd ranged weapon for slayer. Considering the ability resets if a target is killed within 6 seconds, it's quite good for slayer.
Also, you misspelled Laniakea's Spear twice. Laniekea's Spear @ 5:00 and Lanikea's Spear at 5:40
what is 'T'?
Tier so “T80” for example is tier 80 aka lvl 80
After t90s first thing i bought was the zgs
this is what I was lf ! tyvm sr :D
V+S
Thx for pt13;)
Bought the khopeshes for like 500 - 600m and Melee is much more cheaper right now, i would take the chance to buy zgs (700m) and Khopeshes (500 - 600m both)
The T95 arent so awesome, but still a nice upgrade because of the Hurricane Abillity.
This is silly.
How are you saying precise 6 right after a mesutas warspear. They don't have those levels.
Terrasaur Maul? :p
Yeah, that was something that was ommited, its really only in some niche cases, I guess I could have throw it in at the end
4:52 is incredibly wrong. Biting 3 and impatient 4 will cost you close to 100m unless you are lucky.
Youre objectively wrong tho?
@@Jimmystannn well it took me 25 tries for biting 3 at 4.8% for around 35m then I had to do impatient 4, 4 times at 43%. This cost like 52m.
Don't skip the melee rotations, was!
I'm not, practicing melee to be able to make a good enough video
@@WaswereRS nice! I've been practising too but im seeing no improvement.
Anyone else notice he said enhanced fleeting boots?
Thank youuuuu
Tweeted at you about this earlier lol you're the best.
Thank you for saying grim is not viable anywhere but solak because there's a lot of toxic elitists who try to peer pressure people to drain 7m/hr for 7-8% extra dps. It's just not cost efficient or effective.
theres also a bunch of terrible pvmers who rely on vamp scrims tho. at least use a arma godbook
ah yes 25m average to get l4e2
me:spending 65m to get a single l4e2
We don't need a new melee gearing guide by 5,000 different TH-camrs every week.
"500m per praesul codex? and I'd need THREE of these for all 3 styles? No thanks, I'll wait for them to drop in price."
* checks this video *
"Wait, 705m?! That can't be right, let me check the GE guide price."
*881M?!?!?!*
And if you actually wanna buy them it's closer to 980m
WAIT DID YOU SAY 20 BILL.... THAT MORE MONEY THEN ILL EVER SEE... The skillers life is a hard one
Ofc you have done ranged and melee but not magic :'(
It's too expensive to do any competitive bossing. A new player will have to no life slayer to save up.
Defenders? niche but still
Dude, Where's the Mage gearing guide?
I'm over on reddit telling a returning player you've got the monopoly on the best gearing guides locked off and I find there isn't a mage version?
C'mon man, how'm I supposed to expelliarmus muh f'kas in the face if I'm still running round in Ahrims at 120 magic?
Shame that the amount of quests you need to complite to get ancient curses is so ridiculous for casual players.