Teddy is a workhorse man. Steady pumping out bangers. It's rare that i can binge a channels older content while they are still feeding me videos i auto click in real time.
How about helium escape valves? Absolutely useless complication for 99.99% of all watch wearers, even those of us who do use our watches while diving. The population of Heliox divers (ie, people who need a helium escape valve) in the world would fit into a decent sized high school auditorium. For the rest of us? It's an extra potential point of failure in the case.
It's a marketing thing more than anything. All of Omegas watches can handle all commercial applications because of the HE valve as to where Rolexs submariner can only handle limited commercial applications.
The water resistance one is a bit tricky. You rarely go down to 100 m but moving your arms underwater while swimming/snorkeling etc. increases the pressure that is affecting the watch. I would advise against going for a swim with anything below 10 bar/100m WR. Doing the dishes can also be problematic if you are the Hulk :).
1) Moving your arms makes a negligible difference in pressure. 2) 100m depth is significant pressure: Around 162 pounds per square inch. Way more than you need to go for a swim on the surface. 3) The recreational dive limit is 40m. Any WR greater than 100m is just for bragging rights and is of no practical value. 4) Professional divers wear dive computers, not luxury mechanical watches.
@@David-fu5kb while divers, both recreational and commercial, use dive computers, many of them use a dive watch as a backup; after all computers crash, run out of battery, and so on. That said, you don't need to get a luxury brand dive watch; there are good options made by divers, for divers. One that comes to mind is Scurfa watches.
I remember my mother buying me a cheap 50m watch in Gran Canaria as a kid. I'd jump in the pool and dive to the bottom at like 2 meters, And that watch immediately got all misty inside. Got a replacement and the same thing happened again. So we have two possibilities: 1) 50m water resistance is not enough to even dive 2 meters down and move around under water like hyperactive kids tend to do. OR 2) The water rating on those cheap watches was bullsh*it. They also sold knock-off games for Game Boy around there so this seems quite plausible. Personally, I do believe reason 2 but if someone has bought a reputable 50m watch and then had it leak in the pool, share your story :)
I used to be in the ocean alot, spearfishing, diving, surfing. I am not a serious diver. My deepest dive was 77 feet. Never got passed the century mark. Not gonna lie, once I got passed 60 feet I got nervous. Looking up, seemed like a long way to the surface. 77ft = 23.5 meters. I'm with you Teddy, when I hear people saying 100m is too little, I'm like REALLY???? I get that it is an indication of the cases ruggedness, but after 100m, its rugged for real. If it's a dress watch with 10m, I'm good.
it's not always about how deep you go though. if you're hitting the water hard and fast often, like i do at my work as a kayak instructor in summer, then having more than 100m really helps with peace of mind. for everyone else who dont work on water, 100m is MORE than enough.
@@Fanasz This is just wrong and needs to stop being repeated. It’s just an excuse for the manufacturer to lie and put a bigger number on the dial. Any ISO rated watch will operate down to its rated depth in the real world. Mark from Long Island watch did a whole video where he shows the math that dynamic pressure is BS. He has a masters in mechanical engineering so he knows what he’s talking about.
@@TheTimeFarmdid you ever ride a bike under the rain with cheap raingear? Well that is the reason why static pressure is a measurement that doesn’t make any sense in real world, 100 m of water resistance is just enough for a jump in the water and it is a bit disappointing that a person like Teddy doesn’t know it.
Well thought out and well balanced thoughts, as usual. Glad to hear the quick-adjust clasps weren't on the 'over-rated' list 🙂 And I really enjoy the macro camera work for eye candy throughout. Very polished and professional. Keep up the good work!!
I just ordered my first true Swiss Mechanical timepiece. Found a Tissot Gentleman 80 hour and the last one in that gorgeous Green dial for 33% off, I feel lucky 🍀
I beg to differ on accuracy (for automatic watches) and lume, especially lume. -While those who yern for ultra-accurate timekeeping can always go to quartz watch, smart watch or digital devices, some occasions do call for a more elegant automatic watch as an accessory, and having an automatic watch with higher accuracy could at least save the trouble of having to adjust time or recalibrate the movement from time to time. -Lume is big for me. Among the features mentioned I believe this is the most useful in daily scenarios. We frequently find ourselves having to take a glance to tell time amid dim lighting, like at dusk/night, in a movie theater, when the street lighting does not work, or at overnight flights during sleeping hours with dim lighting; even the dimmest lume is better than having to scramble to find adequate lighting. I insist that all my watches have lume or a press button for background lighting (Casio). It is also because of this (and the fact that my current working and living situations do not call for it) that I could not make up my mind to buy a good dress watch as the majority of them do not have lume.
I completely agree with you. Watches are utilitarian devices first and foremost. The reduction of emphasis on accuracy and visibility will turn watches into a fashion statement rather than reliable tools. I personally prioritise lume and backlight very much. That’s why I haven’t bought a Casioak yet. The negative display and the low comtrast dial is really disappointing.
Great video/ info. I’ve been buying/ wearing mechanical watches (and quartz) for over 40 years. There’s a lot of good advice here. However, for me personally, as an airline pilot, traveling all the time (every week); having a truly waterproof watch is necessary. Here’s the scenario: you’re by yourself at the pool or at the beach on your layover. You want to go for a swim. If you don’t KNOW your watch is water-resistant for say snorkeling (100 meter rating), then you either have to leave your watch alone on your towel or not ever go for a swim. Believe it or not, that’s the exact scenario that started me down the rabbit hole off watch addiction: I started looking for a truly water-resistant watch. In addition, a 10” meter water-resistant watch with a screw-down crown usually also has a more rugged build quality. Just my thoughts. Since I travel the world’s time zones weekly, I have settled on a Tudor BB GMT. It fits my needs, and it’s sizing is okay for me.
While I like all of the points that Teddy makes, they should be kept in context. Water resistance is much more important in a watch that might be worn while waterskiing than it is in a dress watch. Accuracy is probably not why one buys a hand-wound model, but it is always appreciated if one is not carrying a mobile phone. Lume (and a high-contrast dial and hands) are much more important in a dive or tool watch than something primarily meant to make a fashion statement. Heritage is more important for impressing others than it is crucial for overall enjoyment.
I totally agree with the helium escape Valve, and the depth capabilities lol. I promise 99 percent of people do not to go further than a deep end of a pool. Unreal expectations of accurateness too. I feel like complications, basically anything else on a watch is a literal feature that isn't used. More status maybe. If your worried about accurateness, your phone is on a satellite.
As a recreational scuba diver, I’m not sure I would trust 100m on a dive. There is just so much variability in manufacturer ratings. If I’m using the watch as a tool on a dive, I want the ISO compliance and at least 200m.
I do like a good lume. I’m a professional driver and that’s why I like diver or pilot watches because they are easy to read in low light conditions. I want to just be able to turn my wrist and see the restive time with out pressing the light button on my watch (though it’s not that big of a deal) is nice. Plus that big lume is just plain fun and they look good, it’s nice having a nice watch. I bought a Victorinox Professional Diver and it has good lume, a solid build and nice quality for the money.
Teddy I've always enjoyed your content but I'll disagree or at least throughout my disagreement on the time telling accuracy of a watch, because after all what is it supposed to do but tell time... I do like automatic and I did buy a spring drive watch - specifically the sbga229 because I also enjoy the bezel feature. I don't use it for diving I use it for cooking and or timing the horses turnout time in the grazing pasture.. so for me of quartz watch would probably be a good viable option.
I really agree with #7 Bulova for example, is really overpriced for what they are now, especially their Lunar Pilot models that they keep milking and I think you seen enough of complaints about their latest quality for their price.
For me, the only deal breaker on your list is lume - If a watch says it comes with lume, please for the love of everything make sure it's decent. I constantly go back to Seiko because of this issue. I've had expensive Swiss watches that have far worse lume than my $120 Seiko 5 which drives me CRAZY. If you can't be bothered to do the lume properly (Swatch Group) then just don't bother.
Hi Teddy. Good points here. Just last Sunday, I bought the Super DS500 M Certina, the orange version. I chose this because I consider myself as an outdoor person. There are times I knock my watch when I get pass a door. With the DS anti shock feature and its nivachrome inclusive, I considered this watch to spend for. The heritage is quite the icing on the cake so to speak. Am a subscriber/follower of your channel. Thank you as always!
Not so sure about water resistance - would you or other Black Bay owners have bought one with 30m water resistance? Regarding value - even at a much lower level an interesting topic for some who are going through rough times and need to sell what they can just to get by. Selling a watch from an established brand will always be easier than selling a watch from a micro-brand.
Total common sense, Terry. Personally speaking, I'd add the date and/or day/date complication too as the date is usually too small to read anyway and if we don't know what day it is, then God help us.
Great vid Teddy! I look at water resistance purely as an indication on how well the watch is assembled. As for lume, just look at your phone! Accuracy, I don't wear a watch long enough for it to be an issue. Keep it up!
I do agree with most of what you said Teddy, except for lume. Some of my dress watches of course do not have lume, and I really miss it when I wear them. I have an Orient diver that has lume that lasts all night, and it's so handy, I love that watch. And yes, I would take pins and collars over screws every time for dependability.
It's one of the reasons why I believe the Rolex Explorer is the ultimate watch. It does 3 things, show the hours, minutes and seconds thats pretty much it and pretty much all I need. it's tough, water proof and has a reserve of 70 hours. I don't dive to the bottom of the ocean or climb Everest, but I do like to ramble, swim and play on boats from time to time. I don't need the day, date, alternative time zones, a helium valve, a day night globe, a clicky bezel, extra chronographs, a stopwatch, alarm. As my phone can do most of that either better than my watch, or I simply don't need it (helium escape valve etc). All I require a watch to do is tell the time at the flick of a wrist (both day and night) and for it to be tough enough for an adventure (where it might be bumped, thumped and get wet) and still look appropriate with a Tuxedo the next night. The only customisations I need are a metal bracelet, black and brown leather straps and a multitude of Nato's.
The problem with lume is that micro brands have shown you can get amazing lume for a $200 watch. When you get a $2000+ watch with lume that lasts 20 seconds...hard to swallow when it's a real cheap cost to fix...looking at you Doxa!
I don’t agree with your argument about water resistance. I don’t know why, but 30 meters is labeled as splash resistance, not water resistant to 30 meters. If I buy a DIVE WATCH, I expect it to be water proof at least down to 40 meters water depth. The watch industry labels 10 bar as capable for swimming, 20 bar for snorkeling and 30 bar as a minimum for real diving. So if I go diving with a watch rated for 100 meters and I get water into the watch I might have no warranty. I think your advice could cause some issues.
Outstanding ! Very valuable and thought provoking video. People complaining about watch having only 30 meter water resistance, meanwhile they haven’t been near water in 10 years. All points in this video are 💯 accurate. Great content.
why we obsesed with accuracy for automatic watch is that when I read that the accuracy says x amount of seconds per day, I actually think that, for example, 30sec per day = average 15min per month, so my reasoning after read the watch accuracy is that automatic watch is good for someone with lot of time to kill and not for someone who must be on time for work
New to the watch world . . . and not as "off the deep end" as many seem to be. What's important to me: 1/ Absolutely MUST be quartz! No mechanicals at all for me. (I know. I know.) 2/ Accuracy. Hence number one. I do not enjoy setting watches. 3/ I have to love the cosmetics. 4/ Can not exceed 300USD in cost. That's it. Nothing more that is important. Nice to have, but not essential: a/ Solar powered. b/ Radio auto-setting to atomic clock broadcast. c/ Sapphire crystal. d/ Screw links.
How can you say, “minus 30 seconds a day doesn’t bother me” then I guess I’m in that small group that does use my mechanical watch to tell the time. For what we spend on these time pieces that have the latest in greatest in mechanical innovation, why wouldn’t we expect relatively good accuracy movements? -2 ,+2 is what I expect in my watches. I know everyone is different but for Teddy, being a watch time keeping ambassador/ TH-camr, I’d expect you to yearn for constant, continuous innovation in accuracy.
Precision for me is important... Every watch I get I try (I have a timegrapher) to get it into the +/-3 max 4 secs a day. And also mostly basic Seiko can get into these values, especially after a bit of break-in wear. They just lack of regulation, it's rare that they are bad (and for bad I mean like +10s face up and -8 face down).
Accuracy can be regarded as a measure of performance, among other specs. Even in mechanical watches, engineering highly accurate mechanical watches is impressive and this is among one of the reasons I appreciate them. Although, I understand that expectations should be realistic and compared to other mechanical watches which have similar levels of quality of engineering.
In addition to the things you mentioned Teddy, I think chronographs are something from the past. When would almost anyone ever need to time a race? It just adds too much unnecessary complication to the movement and requires costly servicing to maintain. On a more personal level, I don't care much for dive bezels and like sweeping center seconds and legible dates.
Water resistance 100m is important to me Lume is important to me Accuracy to basic cosc matters to me Investment value is important now that I spend more. They’re not a great investment but buying smart at the upper tier does protect the purchase and makes it easier to trade up to a grail
Honestly Teddy. I gotta say, if a watch is falling several minutes out of time, quartz or no, in a weeks time. Is it really worth it? I have fallen out of love with watches for this reason. Maybe im just jinxed or picky cuz i have a GShock that i love to death but it loses minutes a week. I have Automatic watches that lose power over a days time essentially. Im starting to o ly buy watches over $500 for this exact reason. A watch must tell time reliably and if they can't. Then they just suck.
I’m one of those WR people I tend to always check that and it has been a deterrent for me in buying certain watches. I do typically just use my gshocks when doing a lot of water activity though. Thanks, I should probably consider 100m wr as I do nothing extremely deep.
The ridiculous secondary market was caused by A.D.'s refusing to sell people watches. I will never buy a Rolex (or Tudor) because of the way Rolex treats their customer base. The whole, you have to buy a few things you don't necessarilly want before we will even consider letting you buy what you do want, and if you sell your own property that we sold you, you are screwed, thing is complete bullshit
Don’t/can’t really disagree with anything said by Teddy. As one who takes my watch into the water with some frequency, though, I like the 20 bar peace of mind. Unnecessary, probably, as you say, but it makes me feel better. 😊
ah ha i knew WR would be coming up on the list. and i think i agree for most people, WR is a nice to have feature that gives peace of mind, but probably won't actually make a difference either way. as Teddy says, if you have an aquatic lifestyle like I do (kayak instructor and boat skipper) then it becomes an essential feature. in the summer at the club i work at, we often go down a water slide in our kayaks and hit the water hard, so having 200m WR and screw down crowns really provides a peace of mind. lume is also important as well, 2 of my regular kayaking sessions happen either in darkness or twilight which crosses into darkness in winter months. the regular route our club boat takes also traverses 2 tunnels which are pitch black inside, so I've had a lot of use out of lume or EL backlighting. for everyone else, these are features that are really situational and probably dont matter 90% of the time
@@edrader i mean i have watches that arent meant to go on water and 50m on them is more than enough. also remember some companies are very conservative with their ratings. plenty of my fellow instructors are very comfortable wearing the casio w86 (50m) or even the f91w (30m) onto water. worse comes to worse if they don't hold up then it's no biggie getting a new one anyway, but ive yet to hear of any amongst my fellow instructors that's failed due to water ingress
great video. Very interesting view on heritage. I never really thought about it that way, but I always do love innovation, and I like it when a brand still manages to make innovations today, so I guess I totally agree on that. I also always wonder about the water resistance. Especially with expensive watches. I mean, how many people actually dive with their submariner? Most people use a g-shock or something. And diving really deep, so commercial divers...I can't imagine them using a rolex. Maybe a seiko marine master but still I'd think they also use something digital.
For me is a watch a kind of jewellery especially for me as man. The design must flash me in any way, The watch must look valuably and the brand must have a good image belonging to the luxury watches. I don‘t mind if inhouse movement or Eta. Eta goes as exactly like complicated inhouse movements.
I have to be able to see my watch in the dark for job stuff. I want so badly to wear my seikos and citizens and have even have worn my glycine and omega at work. But if I gotta see at night it's a gshock or a luminox. Oneday ill get a gsar
Well, 50m doesn't really mean you can swim with it. Fine for a dress watch, but I think anything sporty should be 100m since you could then feel comfortable if, such as happened with me and my PRX, you just forget you're wearing it and hop in the ocean. (I think a screwdown crown would have done wonders for my nerves afterwards as well)
Totally agree on the water resistance, I need to know my watch is going to be ok if I drop it in the sink / bathtub or forget to take it off before I shower, but I am never going (willingly!!) 30m + below the surface!
Teddy doesn't know how water resistance ratings work, apparently. 30 m (3 ATM) water resistance does NOT mean you can dive to a depth of 30 m with it. Throwing a watch with 30 m water resistance in your bathtub might very well destroy it.
@@krishall4861 Look up water resistance rating (or water resistance chart) and you'll see. 30 m (3 ATM) is 'splash resistant'. 50 m is suitable for swimming, but not water sports or diving of any kind. If you're snorkeling at a depth of 5 m, you'll need a watch with 100 m water resistance.
The main purpose of a watch is to precisely represent time, so precision is probably the most important criterion for me. I would be extremely upset with a watch that runs 30 seconds off per day. The whole charm and magic of a mechanical watch is the emotion to have a purely mechanical device that keeps the time as accurately as possible.
The number one overrated feature for me is the see-through case back. I have three watches with see-through backs and I've looked at them - maybe once or twice?
Heritage is absolutely overrated. Especially when it is "fake" heritage, i.e. a company that did not produce for 50 years and the brand is reactivated just because of the name. Microbrands do not have much heritage but often have a better value for money ratio.
I've never heard of anyone complaining about too much water resistance. However lack of WR is often a reason to dismiss the watch, or having all kinds of related problems. Hence why Rolex is killing it with their consistent 10 bar WR. You can take this watch anywhere and not give a fu.. damn. Heritage - totally agree. Thing I couldn't care less. Hublot, Richard Mille, Franck Muller are killing it in modern market at a level where AP, PP, VC, JLC wish they could catch up. And despite being new players, they are building their heritage right now. Investment value - yeah, safe bets are buy almost any Richard Mille or Rolex at retail. The profit is guaranteed.
It's strange that I find myself disagreeing with most of what Teddy says. Accuracy is probably the most important feature of a watch to me; followed by lume, water resistance and lug to lug length. I'm not sure what he's getting at. It seems like he's basically saying the appeal of the dial is the only thing that matters. And maybe finishing too since he didn't mention that. Maybe for some, but not for me.
Any sports diver will tell you that a dive watch needs to have at least 200m of water resistance NOT because any sports diver will dive that deep (they would die) but that at 40, 30 or even 20m any shocks to the watch are greatly amplified by the pressure so if you took a 50M WR watch down to 30 or 40M and accidentality banged it on a rock or wreck it could have catastrophic consequences and lead to a flooded watch. Of course if you only shower or swim with with your watch then 50M is usually fine :)
Interesting. Almost all the features listed are very basic and seem pretty important to me. I was expecting something like moon calendars, chronographs or helium walves.
Accuracy on a mechanical watch is a very important feature for me due to the technical challenge it poses... not because I don't want to be late on appointments. For this reason I bought a watch derived from the one that won the first prize of the "Concours International de Chronométrie" (International Chronometry Competition) for two editions in a row, the result is a watch with +/- 0s day.
Accuracy for me: if it runs +8 a day or less, it's a good watch. It means it will be off by a minute in a week. Anything +15 or over and you will notice it if you need a watch for keeping appointments etc. If a watch can't keep decent time first and foremost, you may as well just go out and buy a fancy bracelet.
I couldn't agree more. I had the same thought, may as well buy a bracelet. If accuracy doesn't matter, then why do high-end watches all have high accuracy (high performance) calibers? A high-accuracy mechanical movement can be admired for its engineering performance, even if it doesn't perform as well in accuracy as a quarts movement. You aren't just buying it to keep the time only sufficiently enough for your daily tasks. I'd like to see Teddy buy a $10K watch and not care that it runs just as accurately as a watch with a Miyota movement, I'm sure he'd care about the engineering quality that goes into the movement.
with you on that. I'm wearing a watch so it keeps time! ..the cool factor is nice but secondary. yeah, if it doesn't keep time then go for a bling bracelet *not* containing a multi$K watch 🤣 you kinda advertise being a dummy when the time on your R or O or whatever is off 🤣 you can be sure that when I see a fancy timepiece, the immediate next thing I also look for is how close is it to real time. is it a minute+ off? you get a smirk. is it
Hi Teddy, I've been watching your videos for a couple of months now and just wanted to say it's extremely refreshing to see such a young Lad making such good quality and measured videos. The watch industry needs younger folk to be buying and promoting watches. Well done and I hope you continue.
Accuracy is a big one for me. I think that a watch should fulfill its main purpose, telling you the time, as well as possible. Chronometers, Spring Drives and GShock multi band watches are all part of my collections because they are so accurate. If I’m justifying the cost of a watch, it’s gotta do a good job keeping me on time
I agree. Would like to see more high accuracy quartz (haq) watches. Preferably combined with solar. A Mondaine watch with a Bulova like smooth second hand, solar and haq would be a superwatch to me.
@@MichielJ71 I have never understood why Bulova hasn’t used the Precisionist movement in a less polarizing watch design! I think it’s an incredible bit of engineering, but I don’t like any of the designs they use. Total missed opportunity by them so far. If they put that movement in a more traditional diver design I would buy it immediately
If you want accuracy, you should never be looking at mechanical watches in the first place. You will always want quartz, or better yet, a quartz synchronized with an atomic clock. If you want a sweeping seconds hand, oh well, then you're left with either the humongous Accutron or the recently overhyped Spring Drive.
You make great points but I would argue this: nearly all mechanical watches aren’t necessary to begin with so we buy them to admire the engineering and design. The new crazy Omega diver is interesting to me despite knowing I’ll never come close to using its capabilities. The reason it catches my eye is because it’s amazing they pulled it off.
Honestly for these prices, every single watch made by these companies/GRAND Seiko/Rolex/Richard Mille/Ulysse Nardin/Piaget/Omega/Brequet/Panerai/Breitling/Hublot/Vacheron Chopard/Patek and so on, SHOULD, MAYBE be made out of Titanium,even if its disguised titanium, meaning they can still keep the look their going for, but just add that durability, it should DEFINITELY have sapphire glass,it should DEFINITELY be 200mm+ water resistant,it should be solar and it should be atomic, no matter which watch it is/if the watch is over $1000 it should have ALL OF THESE FEATURES/the value of these parts are DEFINITELY not worth the price tag anyway, your paying for a name and to be honest, they should make ALL of their watches keep time to 1 second a year,even if they aren't using quartz, or just perfect it,even if Atomic is built in or if it uses a satellite of some kind, after all for these prices, there is no limit/for the price their charging, NOTHING should be left out/left off,no excuses,we should DEFINITELY hold these companies to higher standards/I think if you buy a watch at these prices, it should have ALL of these features and you should have access to their time keeping satellites,that could auto wind your watch/send a signal to automatically set/wind your clock at midnight, every night or when ever you want to manually set your watch,to the time keeping satellites. We need to hold these companies to a higher standard/they can't ask for crazy prices,without offering everything other watch manufacturers are offering, for much cheaper prices/we don't want to just be buying a name, to fit in,we want quality made products. These are good watches,SOME lack SOME features,but they are all at least built well/they are not just junk/they will actually hold up; Bulova Sea King Omega Ploprof Omega Seamaster Ultra Deep Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Titanium Rolex Deepsea dweller Tudor Pelagos 25600tn-bkti Titanium Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Deepquest ii Shinola The Ice Monster Seiko Tuna Orient Triton MTG-G1000D Steel GST-B100 MTG-B1000XBD Mudman Rangeman Frogman ProTreks GW-5610 GSW-H1000 GPR-B1000 Rangeman
Honestly for most people watches aren't even necessary, they are just jewellery to most people that wear them and will even still whip out the phone to check the time
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Hey Teddy, great video. Would love to see the opposite video on under rated features like the micro adjust you mentioned. Maybe quick set dates and things of that nature which are SUPER useful for most wearers.
Strong agree. This was excellent on overrated features (I would have added dates and especially days. I don't need 'em on my watch). Underrated is the natural sequel. Example: legibility is underrated. Lug-to-lug measurements are often underrated.
I would like to see every bracelet with at least the option for a sliding micro adjust clasp. I had to find an aftermarket one that worked well and switched it out. Would've just been nice to jave the option when buying. Also, I'd be willing to pay a small premium for a micro adjust
There's something to be said for ultra thin watches, if you can say it's a feature. I'm wearing more and more of them the comfort is supreme, it's probably the best feature we lost in the quartz crisis.
@@Not_Mark_Twain legibility, that's part why pilot watches and divers are appealing to the masses they can't really screw this up or either they're kinda pointless, for dress watches who cares but that's 10% of the market. It should be a crime to make everyday watches you can't read at glance.
hey Teddy, a minor correction about the water resistance: the x meters of water resistance means it can withstand the pressure if placed stationary in that depth, but that is not all the watch “experiences” in water. Let’s say you are standing in a pool with only your head above water, and arms on your side. You can try to swing your arms back and forth, but it would be a lot more difficult to do it in water than in air. This is because your arm experiences more pressure when moving. The same apply to watches. Though you might not be swimming in a 5 meter pool, brining a 5 meters water resistant watch swimming is a bad idea.
Yes! I was going to write something similar about the difference between static and dynamic water pressure and that our watches are rated at static pressure. The example you gave is perfect to explain this difference. 😊
But dynamic pressure is pretty much negligible. I doubt theres many people diving below 10 meters let alone moving more than 14m per second at which point the resistance of 30m would be plenty
I love analog watches, grew up wearing an omega speed master handed down by my old man, but when I started to care about being on time, accuracy really became a priority. It also became annoying having to adjust the time every week and change the date every month. In the end, I look at my watch far easier and often then my mobile. At that point only quartz analog became the focus of my collection, not opposed to digital but you just can't beat the elegance of the analog dial.
Teddy is a workhorse man. Steady pumping out bangers. It's rare that i can binge a channels older content while they are still feeding me videos i auto click in real time.
honestly can't say enough how much you have taught me through my new and young journey of love for watches.
So true. Without this channel I probably would never even think about watch collection
Teddy is making that sweet TH-cam dollar 😂😂
How about helium escape valves? Absolutely useless complication for 99.99% of all watch wearers, even those of us who do use our watches while diving. The population of Heliox divers (ie, people who need a helium escape valve) in the world would fit into a decent sized high school auditorium. For the rest of us? It's an extra potential point of failure in the case.
Sinn don't fit them Tyler, they design their watches properly to start with! 🙂👋
It's a marketing thing more than anything. All of Omegas watches can handle all commercial applications because of the HE valve as to where Rolexs submariner can only handle limited commercial applications.
Teddy mentions them briefly at 4:26.
If the omega seamaster didn't have that ugly Espace valve at 10 o'clock i would bought one already.
@@StreetEquus I feel your frustration, brother! 🙂
The water resistance one is a bit tricky. You rarely go down to 100 m but moving your arms underwater while swimming/snorkeling etc. increases the pressure that is affecting the watch. I would advise against going for a swim with anything below 10 bar/100m WR. Doing the dishes can also be problematic if you are the Hulk :).
5 bar is 72 PSI; so you're telling me your swimming strokes are like 100 psi. I think your just making sh!t up.
You aren't moving your arms fast enough to cause much pressure.
1) Moving your arms makes a negligible difference in pressure. 2) 100m depth is significant pressure: Around 162 pounds per square inch. Way more than you need to go for a swim on the surface. 3) The recreational dive limit is 40m. Any WR greater than 100m is just for bragging rights and is of no practical value. 4) Professional divers wear dive computers, not luxury mechanical watches.
@@David-fu5kb while divers, both recreational and commercial, use dive computers, many of them use a dive watch as a backup; after all computers crash, run out of battery, and so on. That said, you don't need to get a luxury brand dive watch; there are good options made by divers, for divers. One that comes to mind is Scurfa watches.
I remember my mother buying me a cheap 50m watch in Gran Canaria as a kid.
I'd jump in the pool and dive to the bottom at like 2 meters,
And that watch immediately got all misty inside.
Got a replacement and the same thing happened again.
So we have two possibilities:
1) 50m water resistance is not enough to even dive 2 meters down and move around under water like hyperactive kids tend to do.
OR
2) The water rating on those cheap watches was bullsh*it. They also sold knock-off games for Game Boy around there so this seems quite plausible.
Personally, I do believe reason 2 but if someone has bought a reputable 50m watch and then had it leak in the pool, share your story :)
I used to be in the ocean alot, spearfishing, diving, surfing. I am not a serious diver. My deepest dive was 77 feet. Never got passed the century mark. Not gonna lie, once I got passed 60 feet I got nervous. Looking up, seemed like a long way to the surface. 77ft = 23.5 meters. I'm with you Teddy, when I hear people saying 100m is too little, I'm like REALLY???? I get that it is an indication of the cases ruggedness, but after 100m, its rugged for real. If it's a dress watch with 10m, I'm good.
100m on the watch doesn't mean 100m in the water
it's not always about how deep you go though. if you're hitting the water hard and fast often, like i do at my work as a kayak instructor in summer, then having more than 100m really helps with peace of mind.
for everyone else who dont work on water, 100m is MORE than enough.
@@Fanasz This is just wrong and needs to stop being repeated. It’s just an excuse for the manufacturer to lie and put a bigger number on the dial. Any ISO rated watch will operate down to its rated depth in the real world. Mark from Long Island watch did a whole video where he shows the math that dynamic pressure is BS. He has a masters in mechanical engineering so he knows what he’s talking about.
@@TheTimeFarm yes but most affordable divers aren't ISO rated, so if i am buying a seiko to swim and scuba dive with i'd like to see 200m
@@TheTimeFarmdid you ever ride a bike under the rain with cheap raingear? Well that is the reason why static pressure is a measurement that doesn’t make any sense in real world, 100 m of water resistance is just enough for a jump in the water and it is a bit disappointing that a person like Teddy doesn’t know it.
Well thought out and well balanced thoughts, as usual. Glad to hear the quick-adjust clasps weren't on the 'over-rated' list 🙂 And I really enjoy the macro camera work for eye candy throughout. Very polished and professional. Keep up the good work!!
I just ordered my first true Swiss Mechanical timepiece. Found a Tissot Gentleman 80 hour and the last one in that gorgeous Green dial for 33% off, I feel lucky 🍀
Thanks Teddy, it's always a nice thing for us when you upload a new video!
I beg to differ on accuracy (for automatic watches) and lume, especially lume.
-While those who yern for ultra-accurate timekeeping can always go to quartz watch, smart watch or digital devices, some occasions do call for a more elegant automatic watch as an accessory, and having an automatic watch with higher accuracy could at least save the trouble of having to adjust time or recalibrate the movement from time to time.
-Lume is big for me. Among the features mentioned I believe this is the most useful in daily scenarios. We frequently find ourselves having to take a glance to tell time amid dim lighting, like at dusk/night, in a movie theater, when the street lighting does not work, or at overnight flights during sleeping hours with dim lighting; even the dimmest lume is better than having to scramble to find adequate lighting. I insist that all my watches have lume or a press button for background lighting (Casio). It is also because of this (and the fact that my current working and living situations do not call for it) that I could not make up my mind to buy a good dress watch as the majority of them do not have lume.
I completely agree with you. Watches are utilitarian devices first and foremost. The reduction of emphasis on accuracy and visibility will turn watches into a fashion statement rather than reliable tools.
I personally prioritise lume and backlight very much. That’s why I haven’t bought a Casioak yet. The negative display and the low comtrast dial is really disappointing.
@@dilipkumar711 I share your concern for Casioak. I am also staying away from that watch for now.
Great video/ info. I’ve been buying/ wearing mechanical watches (and quartz) for over 40 years. There’s a lot of good advice here.
However, for me personally, as an airline pilot, traveling all the time (every week); having a truly waterproof watch is necessary. Here’s the scenario: you’re by yourself at the pool or at the beach on your layover. You want to go for a swim. If you don’t KNOW your watch is water-resistant for say snorkeling (100 meter rating), then you either have to leave your watch alone on your towel or not ever go for a swim. Believe it or not, that’s the exact scenario that started me down the rabbit hole off watch addiction: I started looking for a truly water-resistant watch. In addition, a 10” meter water-resistant watch with a screw-down crown usually also has a more rugged build quality.
Just my thoughts.
Since I travel the world’s time zones weekly, I have settled on a Tudor BB GMT. It fits my needs, and it’s sizing is okay for me.
While I like all of the points that Teddy makes, they should be kept in context. Water resistance is much more important in a watch that might be worn while waterskiing than it is in a dress watch. Accuracy is probably not why one buys a hand-wound model, but it is always appreciated if one is not carrying a mobile phone. Lume (and a high-contrast dial and hands) are much more important in a dive or tool watch than something primarily meant to make a fashion statement. Heritage is more important for impressing others than it is crucial for overall enjoyment.
I totally agree with the helium escape Valve, and the depth capabilities lol. I promise 99 percent of people do not to go further than a deep end of a pool. Unreal expectations of accurateness too. I feel like complications, basically anything else on a watch is a literal feature that isn't used. More status maybe. If your worried about accurateness, your phone is on a satellite.
Hell, 99.9% of _divers_ never need a He valve.
As a recreational scuba diver, I’m not sure I would trust 100m on a dive. There is just so much variability in manufacturer ratings. If I’m using the watch as a tool on a dive, I want the ISO compliance and at least 200m.
Divers I know today don't wear dive watches, they have dive computers
@@billybenson3834 as do I, but I always take a dive watch with me as a backup timer. Redundancy is a wonderful thing.
I do like a good lume. I’m a professional driver and that’s why I like diver or pilot watches because they are easy to read in low light conditions. I want to just be able to turn my wrist and see the restive time with out pressing the light button on my watch (though it’s not that big of a deal) is nice. Plus that big lume is just plain fun and they look good, it’s nice having a nice watch. I bought a Victorinox Professional Diver and it has good lume, a solid build and nice quality for the money.
Teddy I've always enjoyed your content but I'll disagree or at least throughout my disagreement on the time telling accuracy of a watch, because after all what is it supposed to do but tell time... I do like automatic and I did buy a spring drive watch - specifically the sbga229 because I also enjoy the bezel feature. I don't use it for diving I use it for cooking and or timing the horses turnout time in the grazing pasture.. so for me of quartz watch would probably be a good viable option.
I really agree with #7
Bulova for example, is really overpriced for what they are now, especially their Lunar Pilot models that they keep milking and I think you seen enough of complaints about their latest quality for their price.
The Lunar Pilots not overrated or priced. It's a great watch hence its popularity...
Teddy you are definitely the Bill Nye of watches and I always come away from your videos with more insight and knowledge then I came in with. Cheers!!
For me, the only deal breaker on your list is lume - If a watch says it comes with lume, please for the love of everything make sure it's decent. I constantly go back to Seiko because of this issue. I've had expensive Swiss watches that have far worse lume than my $120 Seiko 5 which drives me CRAZY. If you can't be bothered to do the lume properly (Swatch Group) then just don't bother.
Hi Teddy. Good points here. Just last Sunday, I bought the Super DS500 M Certina, the orange version. I chose this because I consider myself as an outdoor person. There are times I knock my watch when I get pass a door. With the DS anti shock feature and its nivachrome inclusive, I considered this watch to spend for. The heritage is quite the icing on the cake so to speak. Am a subscriber/follower of your channel. Thank you as always!
I would add some of complications such as stop watch, moon phase etc
I really hope Omega gets rid of the unnecessary obsolete helium escape valve. If they ever do, I'm purchasing a seamaster 300
i hate that tumor too
My advice. Buy some shares of Swatch group and show up at a shareholder and rant appropriately.
Something tells me this isn’t the first time you’ve unpacked these topics, Teddy. Just a sense 😅🙌🏼 amen to it all.
Not so sure about water resistance - would you or other Black Bay owners have bought one with 30m water resistance? Regarding value - even at a much lower level an interesting topic for some who are going through rough times and need to sell what they can just to get by. Selling a watch from an established brand will always be easier than selling a watch from a micro-brand.
Another great video! Lots of things to consider here. Thanks for sharing!
Total common sense, Terry. Personally speaking, I'd add the date and/or day/date complication too as the date is usually too small to read anyway and if we don't know what day it is, then God help us.
Great vid Teddy! I look at water resistance purely as an indication on how well the watch is assembled. As for lume, just look at your phone! Accuracy, I don't wear a watch long enough for it to be an issue. Keep it up!
I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.Thank you for another great video brother
I do agree with most of what you said Teddy, except for lume. Some of my dress watches of course do not have lume, and I really miss it when I wear them. I have an Orient diver that has lume that lasts all night, and it's so handy, I love that watch. And yes, I would take pins and collars over screws every time for dependability.
It's one of the reasons why I believe the Rolex Explorer is the ultimate watch. It does 3 things, show the hours, minutes and seconds thats pretty much it and pretty much all I need. it's tough, water proof and has a reserve of 70 hours. I don't dive to the bottom of the ocean or climb Everest, but I do like to ramble, swim and play on boats from time to time. I don't need the day, date, alternative time zones, a helium valve, a day night globe, a clicky bezel, extra chronographs, a stopwatch, alarm. As my phone can do most of that either better than my watch, or I simply don't need it (helium escape valve etc). All I require a watch to do is tell the time at the flick of a wrist (both day and night) and for it to be tough enough for an adventure (where it might be bumped, thumped and get wet) and still look appropriate with a Tuxedo the next night. The only customisations I need are a metal bracelet, black and brown leather straps and a multitude of Nato's.
But there are nicer watches for much less that do the same
Aww. I buy my Tissot Ballade for the COSC and 50m WR :D. It's beautiful and I love it.
The problem with lume is that micro brands have shown you can get amazing lume for a $200 watch. When you get a $2000+ watch with lume that lasts 20 seconds...hard to swallow when it's a real cheap cost to fix...looking at you Doxa!
Loved this video.
I enjoy seeing Teddies opinions outside of listing stats and values.
@text4550 no
Talking about heritage: what do you think about the new Mido Multifort powerwind?
I don’t agree with your argument about water resistance. I don’t know why, but 30 meters is labeled as splash resistance, not water resistant to 30 meters. If I buy a DIVE WATCH, I expect it to be water proof at least down to 40 meters water depth. The watch industry labels 10 bar as capable for swimming, 20 bar for snorkeling and 30 bar as a minimum for real diving. So if I go diving with a watch rated for 100 meters and I get water into the watch I might have no warranty. I think your advice could cause some issues.
I fully appreciate lume as it's one of my top four features l look for in a watch, specifically a seconds hand with lume.
Outstanding ! Very valuable and thought provoking video. People complaining about watch having only 30 meter water resistance, meanwhile they haven’t been near water in 10 years. All points in this video are 💯 accurate. Great content.
why we obsesed with accuracy for automatic watch is that when I read that the accuracy says x amount of seconds per day, I actually think that, for example, 30sec per day = average 15min per month, so my reasoning after read the watch accuracy is that automatic watch is good for someone with lot of time to kill and not for someone who must be on time for work
New to the watch world . . . and not as "off the deep end" as many seem to be.
What's important to me:
1/ Absolutely MUST be quartz! No mechanicals at all for me. (I know. I know.)
2/ Accuracy. Hence number one. I do not enjoy setting watches.
3/ I have to love the cosmetics.
4/ Can not exceed 300USD in cost.
That's it. Nothing more that is important. Nice to have, but not essential:
a/ Solar powered.
b/ Radio auto-setting to atomic clock broadcast.
c/ Sapphire crystal.
d/ Screw links.
How can you say, “minus 30 seconds a day doesn’t bother me” then I guess I’m in that small group that does use my mechanical watch to tell the time. For what we spend on these time pieces that have the latest in greatest in mechanical innovation, why wouldn’t we expect relatively good accuracy movements? -2 ,+2 is what I expect in my watches. I know everyone is different but for Teddy, being a watch time keeping ambassador/ TH-camr, I’d expect you to yearn for constant, continuous innovation in accuracy.
Precision for me is important... Every watch I get I try (I have a timegrapher) to get it into the +/-3 max 4 secs a day. And also mostly basic Seiko can get into these values, especially after a bit of break-in wear. They just lack of regulation, it's rare that they are bad (and for bad I mean like +10s face up and -8 face down).
Accuracy can be regarded as a measure of performance, among other specs. Even in mechanical watches, engineering highly accurate mechanical watches is impressive and this is among one of the reasons I appreciate them. Although, I understand that expectations should be realistic and compared to other mechanical watches which have similar levels of quality of engineering.
Very good points. Can’t disagree with any of them
In addition to the things you mentioned Teddy, I think chronographs are something from the past. When would almost anyone ever need to time a race? It just adds too much unnecessary complication to the movement and requires costly servicing to maintain. On a more personal level, I don't care much for dive bezels and like sweeping center seconds and legible dates.
I like my chronographs to time my tasks, so I think it is something that will always be available because has a good purpose
Water resistance 100m is important to me
Lume is important to me
Accuracy to basic cosc matters to me
Investment value is important now that I spend more. They’re not a great investment but buying smart at the upper tier does protect the purchase and makes it easier to trade up to a grail
Would you review the Seiko Astron lineups please?
Honestly Teddy. I gotta say, if a watch is falling several minutes out of time, quartz or no, in a weeks time. Is it really worth it? I have fallen out of love with watches for this reason. Maybe im just jinxed or picky cuz i have a GShock that i love to death but it loses minutes a week. I have Automatic watches that lose power over a days time essentially. Im starting to o ly buy watches over $500 for this exact reason. A watch must tell time reliably and if they can't. Then they just suck.
I’m one of those WR people I tend to always check that and it has been a deterrent for me in buying certain watches. I do typically just use my gshocks when doing a lot of water activity though. Thanks, I should probably consider 100m wr as I do nothing extremely deep.
The ridiculous secondary market was caused by A.D.'s refusing to sell people watches. I will never buy a Rolex (or Tudor) because of the way Rolex treats their customer base. The whole, you have to buy a few things you don't necessarilly want before we will even consider letting you buy what you do want, and if you sell your own property that we sold you, you are screwed, thing is complete bullshit
Don’t/can’t really disagree with anything said by Teddy. As one who takes my watch into the water with some frequency, though, I like the 20 bar peace of mind. Unnecessary, probably, as you say, but it makes me feel better. 😊
Many Thanks, Teddy! Now I realize I don't need to buy that $850 watch. Walmart must have a good $7 watch for me.
It is a case of " i rather have it when you don't need it than don't have it when you needed". But we all buy watch not just to tell time though
ah ha i knew WR would be coming up on the list. and i think i agree for most people, WR is a nice to have feature that gives peace of mind, but probably won't actually make a difference either way.
as Teddy says, if you have an aquatic lifestyle like I do (kayak instructor and boat skipper) then it becomes an essential feature. in the summer at the club i work at, we often go down a water slide in our kayaks and hit the water hard, so having 200m WR and screw down crowns really provides a peace of mind.
lume is also important as well, 2 of my regular kayaking sessions happen either in darkness or twilight which crosses into darkness in winter months. the regular route our club boat takes also traverses 2 tunnels which are pitch black inside, so I've had a lot of use out of lume or EL backlighting.
for everyone else, these are features that are really situational and probably dont matter 90% of the time
i won't buy a watch under 100m
@@edrader i mean i have watches that arent meant to go on water and 50m on them is more than enough. also remember some companies are very conservative with their ratings. plenty of my fellow instructors are very comfortable wearing the casio w86 (50m) or even the f91w (30m) onto water. worse comes to worse if they don't hold up then it's no biggie getting a new one anyway, but ive yet to hear of any amongst my fellow instructors that's failed due to water ingress
great video. Very interesting view on heritage. I never really thought about it that way, but I always do love innovation, and I like it when a brand still manages to make innovations today, so I guess I totally agree on that.
I also always wonder about the water resistance. Especially with expensive watches. I mean, how many people actually dive with their submariner?
Most people use a g-shock or something. And diving really deep, so commercial divers...I can't imagine them using a rolex. Maybe a seiko marine master but still I'd think they also use something digital.
The feature I use on my watch as much as or more than the time is the date
actually all the features you mentioned are very important to me
Another Common Sense video from Teddy, helping keep our watch enthusiasm from getting out of hand. Well done!
Not taking anything from Nico (he makes 'popular' videos), but Teddy should be the one with 1 Mill subs ASAP!
BGW9 lume. I like it very much. And I need lume nightly.
What about chronograph? When would you really need and use that?
(Sometimes) looks nice. That's why we buy watches, after all.
Great video, thanks.
On the subject of water resistance, what would you say is enough to survive frequent and very heavy rain for say upto 1 hour?
30 m (3 ATM) should be enough, maybe...
50 m (5 ATM) to be on the safe side.
And seals wear down over time, decreasing water resistance.
For me is a watch a kind of jewellery especially for me as man. The design must flash me in any way, The watch must look valuably and the brand must have a good image belonging to the luxury watches. I don‘t mind if inhouse movement or Eta. Eta goes as exactly like complicated inhouse movements.
I have to be able to see my watch in the dark for job stuff. I want so badly to wear my seikos and citizens and have even have worn my glycine and omega at work. But if I gotta see at night it's a gshock or a luminox. Oneday ill get a gsar
Hi Teddy do you get third party bracelets that are excellent quality??
I’ll start with heritage and move down from there, of those features I appreciate a sweet lume.
Very good! I can live without the helium valve escape on all off my watches. I need to sound funny all the time! 🤣
Low water resistance speaks to the technical capabilities of the manufacturers.
More content like this Teddy. Shows you are a watch collector/ enthusiast. Other content is skewing generic, seen it all before, shop owner talk.
Well, 50m doesn't really mean you can swim with it. Fine for a dress watch, but I think anything sporty should be 100m since you could then feel comfortable if, such as happened with me and my PRX, you just forget you're wearing it and hop in the ocean. (I think a screwdown crown would have done wonders for my nerves afterwards as well)
Totally agree on the water resistance, I need to know my watch is going to be ok if I drop it in the sink / bathtub or forget to take it off before I shower, but I am never going (willingly!!) 30m + below the surface!
Teddy doesn't know how water resistance ratings work, apparently.
30 m (3 ATM) water resistance does NOT mean you can dive to a depth of 30 m with it. Throwing a watch with 30 m water resistance in your bathtub might very well destroy it.
@@staceygram5555 how so?
@@krishall4861
Look up water resistance rating (or water resistance chart) and you'll see. 30 m (3 ATM) is 'splash resistant'. 50 m is suitable for swimming, but not water sports or diving of any kind. If you're snorkeling at a depth of 5 m, you'll need a watch with 100 m water resistance.
@@staceygram5555 that’s really good to know, I’ll give that a look 👍🏼🙂
Aren't water resistance numbers exaggerated? Like 30 meters is splashproof, 100 surface swimming, 200 is where you can start diving.
Smartest takes Teddy's ever done. Still doesn't make up for the Dennis O'Leary nonsense, but smart takes nonetheless.
100% agree with your list Teddy!
What have you done for me lately. Eddie Murphy RAW immediately woke up in my brain 😅
The main purpose of a watch is to precisely represent time, so precision is probably the most important criterion for me. I would be extremely upset with a watch that runs 30 seconds off per day. The whole charm and magic of a mechanical watch is the emotion to have a purely mechanical device that keeps the time as accurately as possible.
I would like to see a show about features we want to see more of
Accuracy = care, detail and precision in manufacture.
The number one overrated feature for me is the see-through case back. I have three watches with see-through backs and I've looked at them - maybe once or twice?
What would be your post-apocalypse-watch and what would be your backup on the other arm?
Heritage is absolutely overrated. Especially when it is "fake" heritage, i.e. a company that did not produce for 50 years and the brand is reactivated just because of the name. Microbrands do not have much heritage but often have a better value for money ratio.
I've never heard of anyone complaining about too much water resistance. However lack of WR is often a reason to dismiss the watch, or having all kinds of related problems. Hence why Rolex is killing it with their consistent 10 bar WR. You can take this watch anywhere and not give a fu.. damn.
Heritage - totally agree. Thing I couldn't care less. Hublot, Richard Mille, Franck Muller are killing it in modern market at a level where AP, PP, VC, JLC wish they could catch up. And despite being new players, they are building their heritage right now.
Investment value - yeah, safe bets are buy almost any Richard Mille or Rolex at retail. The profit is guaranteed.
It's strange that I find myself disagreeing with most of what Teddy says. Accuracy is probably the most important feature of a watch to me; followed by lume, water resistance and lug to lug length. I'm not sure what he's getting at. It seems like he's basically saying the appeal of the dial is the only thing that matters. And maybe finishing too since he didn't mention that. Maybe for some, but not for me.
Any sports diver will tell you that a dive watch needs to have at least 200m of water resistance NOT because any sports diver will dive that deep (they would die) but that at 40, 30 or even 20m any shocks to the watch are greatly amplified by the pressure so if you took a 50M WR watch down to 30 or 40M and accidentality banged it on a rock or wreck it could have catastrophic consequences and lead to a flooded watch.
Of course if you only shower or swim with with your watch then 50M is usually fine :)
Interesting. Almost all the features listed are very basic and seem pretty important to me. I was expecting something like moon calendars, chronographs or helium walves.
I don't need 300m but i do want a screw down crown for my ocean swimming watch.
Mention Paul Newman to the under 30's around here and all they are interested in is which team he plays for.
Accuracy on a mechanical watch is a very important feature for me due to the technical challenge it poses... not because I don't want to be late on appointments.
For this reason I bought a watch derived from the one that won the first prize of the "Concours International de Chronométrie" (International Chronometry Competition) for two editions in a row, the result is a watch with +/- 0s day.
Most people do not need over 50m of water resistance. Especially when 50m means 50m i.e. as per Oris and Omega
If you wanna take a swim, you'll need at least 50 m water resistance.
All great points. 🇬🇧
I have never dived deeper than 100 feet (30m) still I would never use a 50m watch for diving.
Spot on.
Totally agree!!
God!!! AMZWATCH Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
Accuracy for me: if it runs +8 a day or less, it's a good watch. It means it will be off by a minute in a week. Anything +15 or over and you will notice it if you need a watch for keeping appointments etc. If a watch can't keep decent time first and foremost, you may as well just go out and buy a fancy bracelet.
For a modern watch I'd rate accuracy pretty high but I'd be more forgiving for vintage watches.
I couldn't agree more. I had the same thought, may as well buy a bracelet. If accuracy doesn't matter, then why do high-end watches all have high accuracy (high performance) calibers? A high-accuracy mechanical movement can be admired for its engineering performance, even if it doesn't perform as well in accuracy as a quarts movement. You aren't just buying it to keep the time only sufficiently enough for your daily tasks. I'd like to see Teddy buy a $10K watch and not care that it runs just as accurately as a watch with a Miyota movement, I'm sure he'd care about the engineering quality that goes into the movement.
with you on that. I'm wearing a watch so it keeps time! ..the cool factor is nice but secondary. yeah, if it doesn't keep time then go for a bling bracelet *not* containing a multi$K watch 🤣
you kinda advertise being a dummy when the time on your R or O or whatever is off 🤣
you can be sure that when I see a fancy timepiece, the immediate next thing I also look for is how close is it to real time. is it a minute+ off? you get a smirk. is it
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+12 is my limit. But i typically let watches die in between use and have to reset anyways. no watch winders for me lol
Hi Teddy, I've been watching your videos for a couple of months now and just wanted to say it's extremely refreshing to see such a young Lad making such good quality and measured videos. The watch industry needs younger folk to be buying and promoting watches. Well done and I hope you continue.
Thank you, Mark! I greatly appreciate the support!
Agreed! 🙏
Accuracy is a big one for me. I think that a watch should fulfill its main purpose, telling you the time, as well as possible. Chronometers, Spring Drives and GShock multi band watches are all part of my collections because they are so accurate. If I’m justifying the cost of a watch, it’s gotta do a good job keeping me on time
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I agree. Would like to see more high accuracy quartz (haq) watches. Preferably combined with solar. A Mondaine watch with a Bulova like smooth second hand, solar and haq would be a superwatch to me.
@@MichielJ71 I have never understood why Bulova hasn’t used the Precisionist movement in a less polarizing watch design! I think it’s an incredible bit of engineering, but I don’t like any of the designs they use. Total missed opportunity by them so far. If they put that movement in a more traditional diver design I would buy it immediately
@@ethanbluth3211 their 262 kHz movement has also been put in other watches, like the Bulova Lunar Pilot, their moonwatch.
If you want accuracy, you should never be looking at mechanical watches in the first place. You will always want quartz, or better yet, a quartz synchronized with an atomic clock. If you want a sweeping seconds hand, oh well, then you're left with either the humongous Accutron or the recently overhyped Spring Drive.
You make great points but I would argue this: nearly all mechanical watches aren’t necessary to begin with so we buy them to admire the engineering and design. The new crazy Omega diver is interesting to me despite knowing I’ll never come close to using its capabilities. The reason it catches my eye is because it’s amazing they pulled it off.
@richardnedbalek1968 Indeed . . . like vinyl albums and steam locomotives . . . and gas powered cars soon!
Honestly for these prices, every single watch made by these companies/GRAND Seiko/Rolex/Richard Mille/Ulysse Nardin/Piaget/Omega/Brequet/Panerai/Breitling/Hublot/Vacheron Chopard/Patek and so on, SHOULD, MAYBE be made out of Titanium,even if its disguised titanium, meaning they can still keep the look their going for, but just add that durability, it should DEFINITELY have sapphire glass,it should DEFINITELY be 200mm+ water resistant,it should be solar and it should be atomic, no matter which watch it is/if the watch is over $1000 it should have ALL OF THESE FEATURES/the value of these parts are DEFINITELY not worth the price tag anyway, your paying for a name and to be honest, they should make ALL of their watches keep time to 1 second a year,even if they aren't using quartz, or just perfect it,even if Atomic is built in or if it uses a satellite of some kind, after all for these prices, there is no limit/for the price their charging, NOTHING should be left out/left off,no excuses,we should DEFINITELY hold these companies to higher standards/I think if you buy a watch at these prices, it should have ALL of these features and you should have access to their time keeping satellites,that could auto wind your watch/send a signal to automatically set/wind your clock at midnight, every night or when ever you want to manually set your watch,to the time keeping satellites.
We need to hold these companies to a higher standard/they can't ask for crazy prices,without offering everything other watch manufacturers are offering, for much cheaper prices/we don't want to just be buying a name, to fit in,we want quality made products.
These are good watches,SOME lack SOME features,but they are all at least built well/they are not just junk/they will actually hold up;
Bulova Sea King
Omega Ploprof
Omega Seamaster Ultra Deep
Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Titanium
Rolex Deepsea dweller
Tudor Pelagos 25600tn-bkti Titanium
Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Deepquest ii
Shinola The Ice Monster
Seiko Tuna
Orient Triton
MTG-G1000D
Steel GST-B100
MTG-B1000XBD
Mudman
Rangeman
Frogman
ProTreks
GW-5610
GSW-H1000
GPR-B1000 Rangeman
Honestly for most people watches aren't even necessary, they are just jewellery to most people that wear them and will even still whip out the phone to check the time
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Hey Teddy, great video. Would love to see the opposite video on under rated features like the micro adjust you mentioned. Maybe quick set dates and things of that nature which are SUPER useful for most wearers.
And like Day/Date...I find a date is pointless without the day.......Lol
Strong agree. This was excellent on overrated features (I would have added dates and especially days. I don't need 'em on my watch). Underrated is the natural sequel. Example: legibility is underrated. Lug-to-lug measurements are often underrated.
I would like to see every bracelet with at least the option for a sliding micro adjust clasp. I had to find an aftermarket one that worked well and switched it out. Would've just been nice to jave the option when buying. Also, I'd be willing to pay a small premium for a micro adjust
There's something to be said for ultra thin watches, if you can say it's a feature. I'm wearing more and more of them the comfort is supreme, it's probably the best feature we lost in the quartz crisis.
@@Not_Mark_Twain legibility, that's part why pilot watches and divers are appealing to the masses they can't really screw this up or either they're kinda pointless, for dress watches who cares but that's 10% of the market.
It should be a crime to make everyday watches you can't read at glance.
hey Teddy, a minor correction about the water resistance: the x meters of water resistance means it can withstand the pressure if placed stationary in that depth, but that is not all the watch “experiences” in water. Let’s say you are standing in a pool with only your head above water, and arms on your side. You can try to swing your arms back and forth, but it would be a lot more difficult to do it in water than in air. This is because your arm experiences more pressure when moving. The same apply to watches. Though you might not be swimming in a 5 meter pool, brining a 5 meters water resistant watch swimming is a bad idea.
Yes! I was going to write something similar about the difference between static and dynamic water pressure and that our watches are rated at static pressure. The example you gave is perfect to explain this difference. 😊
But dynamic pressure is pretty much negligible. I doubt theres many people diving below 10 meters let alone moving more than 14m per second at which point the resistance of 30m would be plenty
Yep was going to say the same the water resistance part was totally miss leading
A wipe out while surfing or other high energy water sports can create a high dynamic pressure. I’ll stick with my 500+ meter water resistance watch..
@@ats440you still over kill because you’ll only find those speed at the surface but if you want to do that thats your choice
I love analog watches, grew up wearing an omega speed master handed down by my old man, but when I started to care about being on time, accuracy really became a priority. It also became annoying having to adjust the time every week and change the date every month.
In the end, I look at my watch far easier and often then my mobile. At that point only quartz analog became the focus of my collection, not opposed to digital but you just can't beat the elegance of the analog dial.