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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- This is one of those ships that was created for the player base to dismount their heads with any brain it might contain and just YOOOOLOOOOOO.
It is a funny ship to play but it is braindead xD
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When thy nerfed Petro I thought they were thinking at all the comunity requests. But they were just preparing the way for super petro.
Definitely agree about the initial conversation. The game has crossed the threshold of fixability. Now it's doomed. People may keep playing it until the servers eventually shut down, but from an enjoyability perspective, it's doomed. All we can do at this point is play until we individually are sick of it. Personally, I suspect I have about 6 months left before frustration finally forces me to close the game for the final time. The potential damage earning nerf is going to make the game even more passive, the increasing amount of hybrid lines, the support CVs, the regular CVs, the subs, all contribute to an erosion of mid-range concealment, which combined with the increasing amount of lolpen gun calibers are killing off enjoyability in cruiser lines, the absurdity of the torpedo and main battery arms race on DDs and the proliferation of radar as a gimmick on ships that should never have had radar, it's all making the game legitimately depressing to play. It's like with every patch I see a bit more of the game I fell in love with all those years ago die off. There's not much left of it anymore.
Haha, they made a line of carriers that are also BBs with (reportedly) good guns. WG's going to be fine. There's a whole segment of the playerbase and potential players that are going to *devour* what those ships offer. A BB that can hide in the backline doing solid damage with its planes, then come out on full health with its guns *and* planes? Hahahaha, subs are nothing compared to that. That said: Much respect to you sticking with it so far. I uninstalled when the hybrids went live; I refused to play matches with two to four carriers in a match (as a DD or cruiser).
@@micheljavert5923 Yeah, the CVBBs are such a back-asswards idea. As if we needed MORE planes in this already awfully aircraft-heavy game. It honestly feels like WG took offense to the failure of WoWP and decided the best way to punish gamers for it was to move WoWP into WoWS. The hilarious part is that you could see just how much they planned to flood the game with planes before it actually happened, a few patches ago, when they suggested they were "considering" a change to AA mechanics that was going to be put into closed testing. It doesn't make AA stronger, mind. Goodness knows we can't actually threaten the God Class or its derivatives. No, they just wanted to move the AA's focus to attacking squadrons rather than background ones. And then they went dead silent on that, so it's probably safe to say they've changed their minds.
Once carriers turned the corner into a game mechanic that negates even the Air Defense consumable, this Game was boned. Subs were merely the "shot to the back of the head" that finished off WoWs.
Pre CV rework 2018 WoWs clearly was the peak of this game. Since then WG added so much bs to it and squeezed our ingame eco dry step by step.
I closed the game for the last time six months ago. I miss it. Well, I miss the fun it used to be. The last three months that I played, I dont think I had an enjoyable session once. Certainly not twice. RIP WOWs, you were fun until you committed suicide.
Honestly, launching a salvo of unguided ballistic missiles at some square in the ocean would be a way better mechanic thematically than summoning a small airstrike out of no where...
Super-Petro is going to have 4 of those Smolensk turrets but with 220mm guns. Also only the superstructure and turrets are above the water.
Plus 14km radar and 5 shot rapid fire mode. WG will sell it us as "on par to Clausewitz".
Kitakame torp soup is comparable to some ships now in game. Jinan and yodo can throw 20-40 torps downrange. Jinan in particular if you max out, is just silly to see!
Point is, bring on the kita!😊
V-2 rockets were area affect weapon. They were never fired at moving targets (like ships). However Germans had radio guided bombs dropped by planes which were used against ships. Japan used aircraft to suicide against ships. I put nothing past WG in adding content to the game. In WoT they have whole line of made up stuff. Chinese tanks that have rocket boosters come to mind.
It was always a dead game for me, been playing for 7 years, but these last 2-3 years all i have wanted is a cv free game, but with a cv in 9 out of 10 games it was only i matter of time before 1 game was enough for me not to have fun and turn it off, now i don't care to play, maybe 1-2 games a week. Schlieffen is a great example, want to use my stealth to get round into a good position but a cv that is not attacking me keeps spotting me the whole time, by the time i make it to where i wanted to go i am nearly dead, the guys i was going to fight have just run away and the cv sees i am an easy kill, comes over and kills me with out me being able to do a single thing about it because his ship is at the back of the map in a corner.
I'm a military historian, and the inaccuracies of the game are what keep me from getting involved, but if you want my opinion, the game is reasonably accurate at the lower tiers--below Tier 5--precisely because all the gizmos are missing, and you have essentially a 2-dimensional gun and torpedo fight fought at close range with optically directed weapons. The result are far more realistic than why you see in the upper tiers.
WG is the unique case I am SO proud not to have given them a single cent, they simply don't deserve it
Boy do i still remember how back in 2020 people talked about how well balanced this game was compared to that year standard and how fun it was having things like the Secondary Shikishima build or the release of the German battle cruisers which you could build onto Secondaries also, how has it downfalled, sadly cos it feels like yesterday
They might add a new ammerican supership that's just refitted Iowa lol
Sure, higher tiers is also what Gajin is doing with War Thunder. They are now at Battlerating 12.0 with the introduction of the F16 and Mig29. I'm sure we'll get to level 20 in 1 or 2 years. So why not world of tanks/ships/planes
You have a rocket propelled tank in WOT now... I cant wait for my rocket powered Mainz lol
Never really understood the need for so many changes in WOWS. This is a niche game, they could leave it as-is for a while, and only work on balances (if it would be possible again). Then how they could justify manager bonuses, that is a different question.
idk, its really dumb but the worst, its weird. they are "ruining" the game, not really cuz people still keep giving them money and playing it but, u know what im trying to say
I play Modern Warship. The game uses anti-ship missiles, nuke missiles, harpoon, CWIS, AA missiles, Helicopters, flares...
Coming soon, USS Growler as a cruise missile sub.
my bet is within the next 5 years they implement a modern, american battle-carrier group controlled by one CV main
missile DD's, uses the sub ping mechanic, and a rocket (like from a cv attack plane) fires from your ship to the pinged ship
I'm having a lot of fun with AA build Dalarna. It melts planes.
My Småland has missiles ....... just waiting for WG to release them!!! 😀
Kitakami Changes: "Replaced Torpedo Launchers for AA-batteries, for BALL-LANCE reasons"
World of Tanks has ATGMs on the Cold War side of the game. On consoles anyway.
Damn Flambass, I wish my dispersion was that good. WHAT IS YOUR SECRET??!!!
Dispersion is utterly ridiculous and bears no comparison with real life. In reality, most naval gun systems were very accurate in azimuth, with most dispersion being in range. Thus, a main gun salvo would look like a ladder of splashes falling on the target bearing. This is one reason why (contrary to World of Warship logic), ships sought to cap the T: not only would all guns bear, against the enemy's forward battery, but, falling down the long axis of the target, the hit probability would be much higher.
Just curious why anyone would want WG to bring missiles into the game? Literally what killed the BB and ship-to-ship gunfights in real life.
WOT Blitz has a tank which fires ATGMs and they are manually controlled( that tank can only be played in event mode)
Give it time. Events have historically been WG's testbeds for new wide-scale mechanics. Excellent example are submarines, which were first introduced as a Halloween event class.
Kitakami - yes, it has a lot of torps, and would be fun/funny to play. As far as fighting against it, other torpedo boats that are more scary are Benham, Jinan, and arguably the Mino.. A kiting Benham stalling a push is devastating. Jinan can technically launch 40 torps w/ TRB, plus the torps have faster reload, much faster speed, much lower detection, and do more damage than Kitakami's IJN torps. Jinan also has 10 useable guns for starting fires and dev striking dd's, if you practice with them.
If Kitakami was added back into the game it would be a very weak T10 because it has been power crept. It's hull is garbage, and can be dev struck by any BB and many cruisers. It's IJN torps are slow with a long spotting range. They don't hit as hard at T10. I don't thnk the Kitakami would have much of an effect at all, other than people losing their shit for a couple of weeks because of its reputation. The game has changed too much for this ship to compete.
And for a Kitakami to not be competitive sums up everything wrong with this game now....?
@@jackaubrey8614 meh... power creep is inevitable, right? WG can't sell ships if they are weaker than existing ships. idk
You were talking about missiles. Doable, but they would be 'dumb fire' (point and shoot) like the rockets from the aircraft, to stay inside the "WW1-WW2 era" theme that they have more or less managed to do so far. I hope. Guided missiles/rockets weren't a thing until some time after the end of WWII.
The guided missiles of World War II, like the German Fritz-X and Hs-293 were command guided via a manual data link. All were Manual Command to Line-of-Sight: after release, a flare in the tail of the weapon allowed the operator in the dropping aircraft to track the missile in flight. He then used a joystick to bring the weapon into line with the target ("gathering"), and then guided it into the target. Given good visibility, lack of fighter interference, and an absence of electronic countermeasures, these weapons had about a 25% hit probability. Falling from high altitude (20,000 feet+), they attained near sonic speeds, and, impacting a close to the vertical, they could easily penetrate deck armor with sufficient velocity to reach the engine room or magazines. A Fritz-X hit destroyed the Italian battleship Roma, when it penetrated all the way to a magazine. Another one hit the Brooklyn-Class cruiser Savannah at Salerno. It impacted the roof of C Turret, penetrated into the magazine, and exploded. The turret and barbette were gutted (everybody in them was killed), but the ship survived because the explosion blew out the bottom of the ship and flooded the magazine before it could completely detonate.
The advent of guided missiles changed U.S. Navy thinking about air defense, and together with the advent of the Kamikaze (think of it as a manned anti-ship missile), led to the development of shipboard surface-to-air missiles.
WoT has a newish Chinese heavy line with rocket boosters but no rockets for dmg (yet).
These days they are selling reskinned tanks as “new tanks” to drain people of their loot boxes.
Maybe one does not have ATGM in WoT, but one has rocket propelled tanks - like tanks with short burst afterburner.
Wot Console has cold war era vehicles equipped with ATGMs
A missile is just an airborne torpedo with different graphics.
i hope someone in WG researches what has kept MWO going for an accumulated 2 decades plus. edit: look for expansion, WoWS : ColdWar
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What does it mean by Distance Traveled-66.56 km? If the total time is just under 15 minutes, that means the ship was moving at 265 km/hr, or 132 knots. Am puzzled.
I'm not sure about pc but on console on wot there is a cold war playlist and the have atgm on certain vehicles
Super petro with 16 guns and Des Moines rate of fire.
I think world of warships is officially dying. I don’t see any positive comments on this video, at all. Hope you’ll do ok Flambass.
If you want, we can pretend my sailboat is a battleship with torps and throw pool noodles at other boats in the marina. Still more fun than WoWs is nowadays.
Stay safe, have fun
Super Petro? Improved AP angles, shell velocity, burst fire and turtleback
What are the air strikes on the Tromp if not missiles?
"crossed the line..'' had to think of the meme ''there is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed that ...but lets keep going and see what happens" :D
Submersible CVs with 2150mm guns, guaranteed pens even if you miss.
I really would love to hear your thoughts about War Thunder naval :p
Missilez on subs, to launch you must be surfaced for 2 mins
'like' just for the first minute of the clip
It would be interesting to know if player numbers are up or down and how is the profitability for WG? Both must be up for them to continue with the silliness. Anyone have numbers?
Doesn't the Hood has rocket based AA, and it's somewhat animated in game?
Also the Smolensk has rocket propelled depth charges?
Those "Un-spun Projectile" launchers in real life were unguided rockets fired in front of attacking torpedo bombers; each projectile deployed a cable with two explosive charges slung beneath a parachute. In theory, the plane would fly into the barrage of parachute cables, which would then pull the explosive charges up into the airplane. There is no record of them ever having killed anything.
Rocket propelled depth charges were (and are) a real thing. In World War II, the U.S. had Hedgehog and Mousetrap, the British had Squid (and the postwar Limbo). The Soviet Navy developed a whole range of rocket-propelled ASW mortars in the RBU (Reaktivno-Bombovaja Ustanovka) series, which is still in use today. In shallow waters like the Baltic and Black Seas, they can be more effective than ASW torpedoes, which have a tendency to latch onto bottom features like rocks.
modern maritime warfare is so vastly different, it would be next to impossible to implement that with the actual Tier compression of 2.
There is only so much you can do to defend againt missles and implement all the other aspects.
Missles - Point defence - basically non existent armor schemes - guns beeing not the main feature anymore. Today its clicking points on a radar/sonar and defend against fast approaching points so you dont get blown up. I bet they thought about it but have no idea how to implement this stuff into gameplay that sticks with poeple. Not that they really good at it atm...
World of tanks console has ATGM’s
i have 2 spot 160k in a cv. and what do i get for it ?
one behind me after points even if we win.
wargaming you do a great job. do you want me to quit ?
It’s a matter of time look at the tromp u aim the bombers they fly away to their attack point and it’s over after the bombing run
it will have 24 guns of stalingrad quality !!!
you wouldve lived longer had you doubled back and regrouped with your team instead of trying to push a charge on a flank mini map awareness comes into play always push with your team never without
WOT has tanks with jet assists.
I am awaiting the Russian missile cruiser line: they catch fire spontaneously but can submerge. Once…
Early Soviet anti ship missiles would just be very slow (less than half the muzzle velocity of Iowa) battleship HE shells with torp reload speed on cruiser hulls.
The US didn't have ship launched anti-ship missiles till the Harpoon in the 80's while the supersonic Soviet anti-ship missiles are from the 1970's onwards.
We have atgms on console bc we cooler than pc 😂
If they separate the modern and ww2/pre ww2 ships the addition of modern ships might be ok, but combining the those would be a shit show.
Remember when wargaming was talking about WoWs being a competitive esports... lol
Dude bring back the 40 torp kita ... It was at least hilarious.
Hell do it for something like april 1st, a game with nothing but 40 torp kitas on both sides
couldn't you have just gone invis against the petro for a while and avoided him farming your entire ship?
Wargaming balance lol
Disagreement incoming : this ship is not a brawler, but a kiter. That kites from 12km away and can brawl in late part of the game.
And in wot of you have ww2 tanks fighting against cold war tanks so it’s a matter of time b4 a t72 will fight a m1a1
Really ? That’s why we got jet cv ?
Yeah, WG nerfing earnings will make the grind even more boring. So, just as you say Flambass, how much fun can we have? How fun is it really?
Belive me or not but this game is now become a pay to win. This is sad but true. In each of every game there r less human player, half of player base is bot , if u pay to wow as primium or any other thing u will get such kind of power that if some one shoot u the shell not evan hit on target, the dispersion of shell become horible, some shell over pin, some shell rechoshe, fk this game now, there r no such kind of random thing in this game . Every thing is parposly done, u r supercontenar, u r win rate ,i play this game from 2016 , fk u wow
If the game is this broken and not really much fun why do you continue to play the game? (not trying to be funny, just curious?)
An IJN DD with a ludicrous amount of torps? Yeah, the Yamagiri has been in game for a while now.
Edit: Imagine, *imagine*, having 15 tomahawks shatter on a CV's deck while the playerbase complains about subs moving too fast underwater🤣
Also: You know why Flambass is right about missiles? Because no one wants to keep playing in WWII and the near post-war period forever. For the older players out there, it's great; for those for whom that period is just a distant thing in a History book, it has neither meaning nor interest. War Thunder/Gaijin kind of figured that out faster than WG, and I think WG knows (and possibly regrets) that.
Even in younger people, only those specifically interested in WW2 like me are playing the game to enjoy some real and some maybe not so real ships but the absurdity is now rising faster than historical inaccuracies and the game is slowly becoming more unfun
@@kaustubhmanirai8801 Play WT Ships and enjoy having a PT boat spamming missiles at you until you die from over an island.
World of tanks they killed 3 years ago for me .. Fun is now over for me with the joke of the
sub class now in the game.