Council members reunited after Handforth Zoom argument goes viral

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  • Earlier this month an unlikely political hero emerged after the bad-tempered workings of Handforth Parish Council went viral. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
    Hundreds of thousands of people viewed footage of no-nonsense official Jackie Weaver muting elected councillors during their bad-tempered planning meeting.
    Tonight, Handforth Parish Council is meeting again and we are at the Cheshire village.
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  • @estelleaeon
    @estelleaeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +499

    READ THE STANDING ORDERS
    READ THEM AND UNDERSTAND THEM

    • @Weston_James
      @Weston_James 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      these would be some fire metal lyrics

    • @josi4251
      @josi4251 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Weston_James Let's start a band named Handforth Parish Council. I'll dress as Jackie Weaver and kick out group members. Can sing a bit as well.

    • @Weston_James
      @Weston_James 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josi4251 yes lol, lets do it

  • @kingcurry6594
    @kingcurry6594 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    The problem with most people commenting on here is that they do not understand that Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting.
    She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members.
    The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Wasn’t the argument made that the chair had specifically stated that the meeting hadn’t started, therefore those rules didn’t apply and technically they were just a bunch of people in a zoom call in which Jackie Weaver was the host and could have removed anyone she liked.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@lucas411_ Yes, but it also illegal to obstruct a council member from attending a meeting.

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kingcurry6594 Could you argue the fact that she only put them in the waiting room and asked if they wanted to return but they didnt reply, so she didn’t technically obstruct them from attending?
      (Also im not disagreeing with you necessarily, im just genuinely asking questions to better understand the situation and the law)

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@lucas411_ She started the meeting with the Chair in the waiting room as she excluded him before the meeting started - so he was not in the meeting at the start. She then asked members to elect a new Chair - but if the Chair is not there, the vice-Chair takes over. When this was pointed out to her, she chucked the vice-Chair out. She then asked other councillors if they wanted to readmit them. That is not in line with standing orders and therefore illegal.
      Her handling of the whole meeting was completely shocking to anyone with a knowledge of Local Government

    • @lucas411_
      @lucas411_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kingcurry6594 interesting, thank you!

  • @liamjohnson1783
    @liamjohnson1783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    this video makes out like Jackie Weaver wasn't in the wrong?

    • @beenis9842
      @beenis9842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean you could tell in that original video that we were seeing the culmination of many previous conflicts between these people. we'll never really know what the whole story is but the probability that these guys just consistently act like retards and we just got her hammer dropping moment is not low at all

  • @Geemilli19
    @Geemilli19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I think someone forgot Jackie Weaver is now to be known by the name Britney Spears!!

  • @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
    @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I want to know when the UN Security Council will get involved?

  • @emil2321
    @emil2321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    The guitar man who said "quiet rightly" is forever a legend.

    • @monkeychu420
      @monkeychu420 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rob Halford

  • @MKOFT3N
    @MKOFT3N 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Jackie is not the hero of our story

  • @matthewlee8725
    @matthewlee8725 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I loved the part where the council members were reunited.

  • @kazuhirala
    @kazuhirala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That’s strange I thought her name was Britney Spears

  • @therocketboost
    @therocketboost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Person brought in as tech support oversteps their bounds by booting people out of a council meeting despite having no right to do so, then starts booting the people who called them out for doing so. Don't get me wrong, the whole council acted like plonkers but Weaver was not the person to take that action, subverting the activities of a locally elected body.

    • @jayswain6002
      @jayswain6002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank god she did

    • @leont7956
      @leont7956 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      most of the council were ok, it was just the chairman hadn't been doing his job properly and aled who were plonkers

    • @sunyue5076
      @sunyue5076 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Before you throw in your comment, read them and understand them!

    • @PinkDiamond7777777
      @PinkDiamond7777777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sunyue5076 😂

  • @cathalk3903
    @cathalk3903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    "You have no authority here Jackie Weaver." Jackie: "lol kick button go brrr"

    • @RobK32
      @RobK32 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Go what?

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

  • @christopherthorkon3997
    @christopherthorkon3997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why does this strange video make Jackie Weaver a saint? She had no authority to throw people out of the meeting.

  • @pepperboys9572
    @pepperboys9572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Lady at 02:47 - defending "Mr Burkhill". As a resident of Handforth for around 18 years, I can't remember ONE positive thing he has done. Since his election as Mayor and then changing the rules so that he could remain as Councillor for Handforth, he has done nothing but Object to motions put forward for the people of Handforth. He was also instrumental in REDUCING the maximum grant amount of the council from 1000 to 500. This is applied for by local groups that need funding for local projects. (PS the Standing Orders still say 1000).
    I guess the self disqualification clock has now started for both Mr Burkhill and Mr Brewerton, as neither officially offered apologies for this meeting, with Mr Tolver making an excuse for Mr Burkhill not attending, not actually reading a formal notice of apologies.
    Cheshire East Council also showed their ineffectiveness today, when the motion of No Confidence was deferred to the Standards Committee, with no date being set for that meeting.

    • @worldisfucked
      @worldisfucked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tbh don’t think she had a clue and just saw the camera n wanted to get on TV

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheshire East and the environs

    • @videogamenostalgia
      @videogamenostalgia ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plus he has very sinister eyebrows, which alone should disqualify him from any sort of leadership position.

    • @weirdloverwilde
      @weirdloverwilde 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woah the tea has been spilled ☕️

  • @MJ18888
    @MJ18888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Weaver Fever!

    • @perrywilliams4593
      @perrywilliams4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👍🏾 Someone liked your comment: Weaver fever!

  • @eddouglas
    @eddouglas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Yeah but the point is did she actually have the right to eject people from a meeting because if not, shes an unelected administrator that is silencing elected members of a local community...how tf is she a hero, shes a fascist isnt it?

    • @jrburger95
      @jrburger95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah she had no authority to do that, she's a villian.

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jrburger95 W comment

  • @respknloyal4992
    @respknloyal4992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    First thing that comes to my mind is that ZOOM is growing rapidly

  • @davidbrown5628
    @davidbrown5628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha 'blink and you miss it' 😅

  • @halfbakedproductions7887
    @halfbakedproductions7887 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Barry Burkhill resigned, as did Brian Tolver and Aled Brewerton.
    Barry Burkhill sadly passed away from cancer in November 2022.

    • @GittingGud1
      @GittingGud1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He received his standing orders from God. Rest in peace Barry Burkhill.

    • @everythinggeekdotcom
      @everythinggeekdotcom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aled was the real goat

    • @simi55mega
      @simi55mega 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rip😢

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Channel 4 has the authority

  • @MightySheep
    @MightySheep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    How has channel 4 managed to come to the exact opposite conclusion about this series events as literally everyone else? Do you not understand that she is just some random woman who got the tiniest bit of power (control over a zoom call) and it went straight to her head...

  • @mckernan603
    @mckernan603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    John Smith is my hero

  • @Dbdbe1
    @Dbdbe1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All those criticising her never comment on the background to this meeting, admit the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill, still less say what they would have done to ameliorate the situation.

  • @TheEternalOuroboros
    @TheEternalOuroboros 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Sterling work" 🤣

  • @sofnaji
    @sofnaji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Liz Wardlow sounds like a scripted robot giving her statement

  • @trishadennis5440
    @trishadennis5440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ha now its official that she was in the wrong.......

    • @toxendon
      @toxendon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How?

    • @Radocruz
      @Radocruz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How so?

    • @mayzerify5525
      @mayzerify5525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Radocruz Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting.
      She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members.
      The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

    • @simi55mega
      @simi55mega 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She was based asf

  • @AGSBraintoast
    @AGSBraintoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    She was in the wrong about some things tho, the STANDING ORDERS specify that councillors cannot be ejected from a meeting unless there is a majority vote. Jackie Weaver is an average holier than thou, self righteous lady who soaks in her administrative position, she might as well be a despotic community moderator.

    • @snottylottie
      @snottylottie ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lool who cares she's hilarious get over it

    • @ninaj6051
      @ninaj6051 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There was news on the way the investigations turned out. They affirmed what you wrote, but were sympathetic toward her and that her reaction was understandable.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And, if the Chair is not present, the vice-Chair automatically takes over.

    • @kingcurry6594
      @kingcurry6594 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@snottylottie I care, because I am Chair of a parish council and it is vital that rules are followed or else illegal decisions are made.

    • @danjames4086
      @danjames4086 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@kingcurry6594
      Unless of course he is posessed by the spirit of Gollum.mid meeting, then you have a problem.

  • @BOUND-573
    @BOUND-573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m confused how she’s a hero

  • @completelystupid_10
    @completelystupid_10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean realistically with that tie he was always gonna go on strictly

  • @antonalbo
    @antonalbo 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How does an admin get to decide who gets to participate in a Council meeting - I agree with the Councillors who were saying she had no authority to decide who would get to discuss Council business...

  • @Drquibble
    @Drquibble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Handforth Council Should name a road after her called Weaver Way

    • @johnvonhorn2942
      @johnvonhorn2942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should we tread such a path we might be led into temptation. I'd love to willy Jackie Weaver.

  • @savannahrosedigitalillustr1946
    @savannahrosedigitalillustr1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hahaha, my god lloyd webber must be bored to join in the meming of jackie weaver.

  • @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
    @WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In this age of equality and diversity I don't see what being a woman has got to do with it?

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric2767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something to do about nothing.

  • @ernesthimself
    @ernesthimself หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bunch of busy bodies.

  • @db9631
    @db9631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure a council meeting like this pre-empted the invasion of Poland.

  • @johnvaleanbaily246
    @johnvaleanbaily246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So, what right did Jackie Weaver have to evict. If she's not the chair how does that work... or is this just a slow news week...

  • @Drquibble
    @Drquibble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Jackie Weaver has a westie she's even more fantastic than I thought

  • @PinkDiamond7777777
    @PinkDiamond7777777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carrie Hope Fletcher's involved? 😀

  • @maxworth4687
    @maxworth4687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    So it's ok that she violated procedure because she was calm? What empty and vacuous respectability politics.

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      its because she serves the suppression of free speech and the nwo agenda

    • @TheAnonyy
      @TheAnonyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly she was there to clerk the meeting which is a silent job document actions at thr meeting they have no powers, she should have been ejected as she has no authority to so anything and kept interrupting the chairman which is ill-mannered of her.

    • @barnabas5688
      @barnabas5688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Is that you councillor burkhill?!!

    • @TheAnonyy
      @TheAnonyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barnabas5688 maybe you are Burkhill

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      W

  • @TracyLynnMcIntosh
    @TracyLynnMcIntosh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn’t glorify their behaviour
    They are all embarrassing

  • @digitalmediafan
    @digitalmediafan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She reminds me of Rosemary Shrager

  • @lloyddyer1829
    @lloyddyer1829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow... I thought she was the one showing bullying, dictatorship-like behaviour and dealt with the situation terribly, but you never know the whole story...

    • @porridge6118
      @porridge6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      L

    • @danjames4086
      @danjames4086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the wider story is that she was asked to attend by some of the more moderate members, due to poor behaviour of a select few of these people.

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes the whole story was the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill. Do more research next time

  • @bhattasourish2
    @bhattasourish2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    jackie is good at playing the "i am a woman" card

  • @urdarlingalien
    @urdarlingalien 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Jackie Weaver may have had zero authority there but she slayed.

  • @Dream_Weapon
    @Dream_Weapon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Jackie is the baddie.
    Or was I the only one that thought that?

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      no anyone with a reasonable mind would

    • @xtraspecialmango
      @xtraspecialmango 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a Tory, ain't you!? 😂

    • @Dream_Weapon
      @Dream_Weapon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xtraspecialmango You're jokin' right?

    • @kimif1driver7
      @kimif1driver7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jackie did not read the standing orders. She did not read them and understand them! She was the baddie all along. She couldn't kick out councillors without a majority vote yet she still did which is illegal under Standing Order 10. She most certainly was the baddie and Aled Brewerton and Aled Senior were the goodies.

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kimif1driver7so you’re ignoring their appalling previous behaviour and his lies about the high court. Fool

  • @RB98r
    @RB98r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jackie needs to go. end of.

  • @LordUzaki
    @LordUzaki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Tech Support for elderly town council goes on a power trip, takes control of a council meeting, and boots the chairman and other council members as she pleases.
    The uninformed public somehow supports this. The rest of the world laughs at the town.

    • @hillehai
      @hillehai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But women can do no wrong. Didn't you get the memo?

  • @Death-999
    @Death-999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The video was like when a karen discord mod thinks they have power.

  • @alzon5712
    @alzon5712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Why did jakie keep interupting the chair though whilst he was trying to talk, she acted as an antagonist

  • @franciscozurbaran7998
    @franciscozurbaran7998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No to vaccine passports, disgraceful. Sign the parliament petition.

  • @Alex__Al
    @Alex__Al 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another national hero created by media.

  • @shizukagozen777
    @shizukagozen777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why is everyone praising Jackie the little dictator ? People are nuts...

  • @chrisprout8115
    @chrisprout8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This woman is crazy.

  • @JacquesvanWyk
    @JacquesvanWyk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you see news making the woman the victim you know she has been wrong lol.

  • @fatrat2017
    @fatrat2017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    all hail queen jackie!!!

  • @FTCLAS
    @FTCLAS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    JW should be forced to resign

  • @tomr5785
    @tomr5785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In an unlikely coincidence, news has emerged that Cllr Liz Wardlow and Empress-of-the-purple-rinse Jackie Weaver both share the middle name Karen. True story.

  • @onetwothreefourfive12345
    @onetwothreefourfive12345 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jackie Weaver was incompetent. Deal with it.

  • @hillehai
    @hillehai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jackie seems like a typical narcissistic Karen, not gonna lie.

  • @Winterfellen
    @Winterfellen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only the media or women could watch this and think Jackie was in the right. It was found she had no right to remove others.

  • @Chris-kv4vl
    @Chris-kv4vl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Weaver didn't overstep at all. If the Chairman officiates meetings and said this wasn't an official council meeting then it's just a Zoom call and therefore Weaver can do what she likes.

    • @21kiwi24
      @21kiwi24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      But then it started. Don't defend her.

    • @weirdloverwilde
      @weirdloverwilde 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@21kiwi24 TEAM JACKIE (WEAVER)

  • @louiseconroy9140
    @louiseconroy9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jackie is great....😁

  • @bestintentions6089
    @bestintentions6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah yes menopausal women

  • @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164
    @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No to mandatory or coerced vaccines. Sign the no vaccine passport parliament petition

    • @hpvspeedmachine4183
      @hpvspeedmachine4183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I sign you to sod off

    • @Bruceboot
      @Bruceboot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shut up

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks youre right. for those who want to take them and pressure others, i hope their "vaccines" work on them soon so we can be put out of our misery having to deal with them, its their kids i feel sorry for

    • @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN
      @LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @GlassHalfEmptyplease get your vaccine and the boost ASAP

    • @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164
      @israeldiegoriveragenius2th164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Gary S Lets see about that