If the original was on tape, is it possible that someone accidentally recorded over it, maybe "operator" was some one asking a question "what did the operator do wrong"?
@@Lambo_94 or possibly it was a recording of someone watching the tape and one of the people watching it was asking where the operator was. ("C" mentioned it was used in a training program, possibly it was one of the trainees.)
@@SlightlySociable Hey, mister. Another gem, Barely. Your research is impressive, as always. Thanks for all of your hard work. I hope you're doing well. I miss "the making of" sessions, so I'll try to catch up with you "there". ✌🏻 Take best care, and get some f*cking sleep! 🤗
I stumbled on this a few years ago and was haunted enough to do my own research. From what I’m aware - the call transcript was based on an actual 911 call that went bad as a demonstration for trainees to teach them what not to do. However, the audio is not from the original, as I’m pretty sure there are laws/protocols prohibiting that. The transcript it’s based on is real.
I saw this too, forgot to add this in, iirc it was another rumor that came out of 4chan were one user on Reddit claimed there was a thread about it. I checked all archives from there and found nothing :/
@@SlightlySociable bingo! Yes, I did see several threads (mostly Reddit) on it. It just seemed an easier pill to swallow - to believe that the audio was faked but the transcript real - than think that I’d just listen to a woman dying. Cheers for the response!
What else is creepy is when Ruth is pausing ever so often as she's telling the operator that she doesn't know where he is. Almost like she hears something, but still unsure.
This point is so haunting man. I swear to god she reminded me of my Grandma before she died. She would call one of my family members and one of us would go stay with her. But most of us would just think it was a false alarm and think she was tripping. But years later after she passed I had heard this call and it just ran my blood cold and made me thank God she never was part of an attack one of the times we didn't go becuase she called so often.
100%. Phones back in the day had cords and were plugged into the wall. Based off her pauses, I agree that she is looking or moving around her room or house.
I’m leaning towards it being a training tape amalgamated from various prowler calls from the 80’s, meant to show the importance of getting as much information up front to get resources started as quickly as possible, and/or to show how a call can go wrong. I’m an EMT and can’t speak to operator and dispatcher training, but the abundance of anecdotal evidence of people in the lates 80’s and through the 90’s listening to this tape leads me to believe it was used as a training aid or, as you said, to weed out recruits who couldn’t stomach the possibility that they might, and probably would over the course of a career, hear someone’s violent end.
@@josephcontreras8930 I was under the impression that the last few seconds on the planes were cut off off in broadcasts out of respect for those dying and to spare the families hearing the crash. I say this because I also recall that the FBI stated at one point that while there was an explosion, there wasn't two distinct sounds. A bomb would be two sounds very close together as first the bomb detonated, then a second explosion of the fuel tanks.
I actually was a 911 dispatcher. I can't speak for other jurisdictions and other training programs, but this was used in my telecommunicator class. It wasn't used to desensitize us - if you worked for 911, you very much know you're eventually going to hear someone die or their last words. It was actually used as a guide on how to get all the crucial information (address etc) and then to shut the fck up and listen to the background - because a good dispatcher listens to the caller and their background.
@@cerinthe802 this call in particular seems suspicious as to it's veracity, unless it's been edited to make a point. It's just very dense in information and teaching moments, and then the jump scare of sorts at the end. And the details of what happened to her are delivered by the instructor, as a framing device for why getting the critical information early could have helped. Maybe there was an original underlying call that was slightly condensed?
As someone who has conducted trainings, we often repeat stories we heard from our own trainings that had a big impact. Some of these stories go back decades, long past the ability to authenticate or get the true story.
The operator not saying anything is good. It would make it harder to hear the background sounds in the tape that might lead to the killer or what he was doing.
Yea, that's actually crazy true for a lot of things, I find it fascinating as I get older. It's basically modern local folklore at a stretch. I've worked in training roles myself and its exactly as you said it, you literally absorb all the previous trainers stories and add any of your own, telling it to an entire class of people who may _one day_ get promoted up to being a trainer and do the same. You end up with stories that start with "when I first started 10 years ago, my trainer told me about...", so already that story is 10+X years old, and _even then_ who's to say that person didn't hear it from someone else, and so on, and so on. Come to think of it, you got me thinking. You remember how when you were at school however many years ago, for me 22+ years ago, there would always be a school ghost story or infamous story, Bloody Mary's etc. We had one at my school I vividly remember being called "Hockey Girl" (worst name ever... but at least it's descriptive) who would "appear" sometimes in the girls bathrooms and smash the place up, sinks and toilets ripped from the walls and mirrors smashed. Happened twice when I was there, but, easy to see its just a twat of a kid wrecking the place in hindsight, anyways, I remember speaking to my mum about it when I was a kid, and she basically said she heard the exact same thing when she went to that school when she was a kid 30-ish years prior. Now, that school only hosted like ages 7-10, so, imagine how long these kids have been passing down that story over a small 3 year block of pupils. Playground legends and ghost stories are like trainer stories on steroids. It actually boggles my mind because you write something down in a book, it remains forever... but that would imply that someone would have to read it, which, over time it could very easily get forgotten about or irrelevant. Video and photographs and audio recordings are similar and the internet is a whole different matter as these days its easy to archive and catalogue _most_ things. But, yea, surprisingly an extremely powerful tool is word-of-mouth for passing down stories, memories and histories.
😂 I’m an hour ahead of you and am deep into the youtube rabbit hole myself. By the way, I see you in a ton of comment sections! I commend you on your taste!
- Timestamps - 00:00 Introduction 03:03 The Limited Amount Of Documentation 07:28 The Spread And Rumors About The Call 15:12 The Mysterious Legend Of Ruth Price 16:52 Conclusion 17:17 Outro/Endscreen
It was used in 911 Dispatch training; I was a supervisor of a team that received 911 training as part of a security operations team for a fortune 100 company. This particular recording trains Operators not to dismiss calls based on bias and to always ask the key questions and take control of the call. I discovered it originally in 1998. It was on a pro-gun website that was posturing the recording as an argument that "if Ruth had a gun, she'd still be with us" etc. I learned about the 911 training 15 years later, when i was working for that company previously mentioned but which will remain unnamed.
Well it pretty much doesn't matter if she survived or not. It's more if the fact that If she DID have a gun it would have increased her chances of survival even more. It could have been a mock up video that was acted for the purpose of pushing being pro gun and they can still say that. It's pretty much just an example of a situation.
It's not so much deep as like... bass-y? Like a kind of clipped vocal fry. Idk. I think more of like MamaMax or Corpse Husband when I think of super deep voices. So low it's amazing they're able to project their voices at all, yanno?
It feels like too much of a coincidence that they’ve found a Ruth Price that lives at a 3877 address with a spare apartment out back, and she’s not the same woman in the recording.
I agree, that's super coincidental. I think either she didn't die from an attack or that the family labeled her death as "suddenly from illness" in the obituary as to avoid stating "murder"
This is exactly what I was thinking, and she probably wasn't murdered. Who the heck knows why she was screaming. The real recording might have followed the screaming and silence with the operator asking her what's going on and her telling them someone was breaking into her apartment and then giving a full address. The real recording might have been that there was a mouse. Who the heck knows. Someone else later decides that cutting the call short and telling people that she was murdered would make a great training tool. Realize that we only have a copy of the training tape, not the original.
@@dwidep Exactly. It could very well be that this call was cut on purpose a long time ago too because the rest of the tape was, say, not useful for training purposes, and it would be a lot easier to highlight the importance of the process for emergency operators by stating (falsely or otherwise) that the caller was the eventual victim of a violent and unsolved crime.
i noticed everybody who has made a video about this has always assumed that she died in the attack. Maybe she survived the attack and died of an illness years later. People do survive attacks even if the perpetrator has a weapon and yet, there is no indication in the audio file that he even has a weapon, i'm sure Ruth would have mentioned it if he did
If you listen carefully to the audio after the attack starts you can hear her saying "He's stabbing me", or at least that's what I hear and I've seen other people saying that they hear the same thing. You can hear this in the video if you pay attention between 2:38 and 2:41.
@@giovannichardonne3545 I'm sorry, but I listened to this multiple times, and I'm not hearing it. It's so muffled and the audio cuts out that it could be anything, to me it sounded like "he's breaking in" or "he's getting in", possibly "please (god?) help me", "please sen- help me" the only concrete thing to be made out is that she speaks three or four words, with the second word possibly being two syllables, and the first word she speaks has an "ee" sound like "he" or "please". We don't know if that's an attack being recorded at all, especially since she doesn't seem to get any further from the receiver. I don't think holding a corded phone, potentially attached to a wall, or a heavy old rotary phone while being stabbed or strangled is very likely.
So grateful for the jumpscare warning before the moment btw. Probably one of the most viscerally terrifying noises I've ever heard, and pairing that with how fuckn loud it is, I think that moment would've been ripe for a few days of trauma if I had kept listening to it at the same level I was before you had warned me. Good video 👌
This call is still used in training for 911 courses, as of 2019 anyway. My friend had a dispatch course they took after school, and that call (real or fake) is still used as examples of what not to do, and to also give people an example of the things they may heat on a real call (referring specifically to the end of the call). She was pretty disturbed by it when she heard it, because I remember her telling me about it later that night.
There is no way her cause of death would have been listed in an obituary if this is a real person and a real reason for her death. Yes sometimes families will write that someone "passed away suddenly" as a cause of death when something traumatic happens, but not always. I am constantly reading through obits for geneological purposes, and even when someone is murdered or died in a traumatic accident, it's far more common for the family to not list a cause of death or in the case of the elderly to just say they died after an illness or of whatever ailment they were suffering from at the time. Especially if this woman was r4p3d, I think the family would not want that information published to give the woman a bit more of a normal funeral and death experience that doesn't leave people dwelling on the worst moment of her life. In addition, I was wondering if this call could have originated in an English speaking region of Canada rather than in the United States. It could possibly be why no obit or matching address has yet to be found. I would really like to look into this more, and if you would like to do an even deeper dive into this with me Sociable, let me know. Hopefully my genealogical research skills could be of use to find more information on this woman and put to rest if it is a legit call or not.
I hate that this immediately made me think of the “in memoriam” part of the Baby of the Year sketch in an episode of I Think You Should Leave. “Tinky Dinky Daffy 1927-2019, pancakes by drunk dump truck driver” “Little Jeffy Jeremy 1923-2019, throat slashed”
also everyone says she was murdered but isn't the whole mystery that we don't know what happened to this woman? its possible she lived despite the deathly screams.
That’s kind of what I was wondering- either it was listed as an illness falsely, or she didn’t actually die from the attack and later died of an illness- or from an illness or injury brought on by the attack. Especially if she was older, it’s totally possible for one’s health to go downhill after something like that.
This was my first thought. The families of AIDS victims in the 80s and 90s regularly fictionalized the cause of death. I can easily see a grisly murder being changed to "long illness."
I've never heard this in a training but I was a dispatcher for fire and EMS for a large factory the size of a city. I watched a guy die over a camera and him get hauled out in an ambulance. I never heard anything else about it. It stuck with me tho. No one could tell me when happened after because privacy laws. It directly contributed to me having a mental break. 911 dispatchers are a different breed, they heard the worst moments of people's lives. My hat off to people who do this for years.
I can't even imagine how difficult it would be. I think the not knowing how things played out after would torture me. Hopefully you're doing better now.
Seriously. People do not take care of these dispatchers. At all. Like. At all. They NEED better help resources because like you said, you only call them (usually) during the most horrible moments of your life. These people live on the edge of the worst times of everyone and are the *first* line of help in nearly every case. It’s sad. Horrible. And I’m sorry you’re experience resulted in a break. I hope you’re well and better now. Thank you for your service.
Hell, when I just _hear_ more than one fire truck/ambulance/cop car go by I get frustrated because I feel like I _need_ to know what happened. I do not know how I’d be able to deal with not knowing what happened after ascertaining details directly from the person involved in the incident.
What do obituaries usually say in cases where the deceased died violently? I can't imagine that they'd just straight up put "raped and murdered" in there. The thought even occurred to me that someone might put "died after a long illness" in such an obituary just to cover for such a emotionally difficult detail, but maybe that's reaching
That's what I'm thinking. You have to remember, the family is who write obituary's, so theoretically they could write anything they wanted. Maybe someone in the family wrote an obituary listing a different cause of death to "protect" the rest of the family and public from emotional trauma.
they do things like that, i do bereavement calls for people who die in hospice or the hospital i volunteer at. covid obituaries tend to just. not have a cause of death. even people who die of cancer in hospice don't always have a cause of death written in, and that is pretty much always the definition of "died of a prolonged illness". families don't often want to say how their loved ones died because it upsets them
No. Obituaries don't usually list any cause of death unless it was long-term illness. Even then sometimes those are not listed. Obituaries are also not written by the newspapers that run them. Usually they are done by funeral homes or the family of the deceased. (source, I've worked at newspapers for a decade)
In the UK weusually just say "tragically", "sadly", or "suddenly" in official obituaries, even if it's a notorious crime and the news has covered what really happened. Sometimes it might be "brutally taken from us" or suchlike. It is quite rare for an obituary to list the actual cause of death and they might use a euphemism like "after a long illness" etc.
@@taxisalad It links to a video by Barely Social himself. If you don't want to click the link for some reason just search for "The Ruth Price Phone Call Was Solved"
I'm so proud of Ruth for scaring away the intruder. I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been. This call definitely highlights a huge mistake on the operator's part and I can totally see why they use it for training. It was definitely a scary mystery for many years, but I'm glad in the end there was a happy ending after that call. Ruth Price lived 14 years after this before passing away in '94. Rest in Peace Ruth, you're my Hero.
"This photo is of a woman who shot and killed her neighbor who refused to kiss her on the cheek before leaving..." WHOA wait, I want a video about that story! What the heck?
@@Amar-mc8qd Someone should make a channel that ONLY covers the wild and unusual stories from Florida. They would never run out of content to talk about...
Regarding the case of the ruth price living at the 3877 that was found dead in 1994 of an illness. I think it might be the real one, let met explain. The misleading part this story is in the description of the audio file, where it says that she was "murdered" or "raped and murdered". But as a lot of people said, what's creepy in these calls for an operator is that you never know the outcome of what is happening in the phone call. My theory is that, she wasn't murdered, nor raped. She could have survived an assault, the scream could be just fear, or real pain but with no death involved. If the phone call really is in the late 80's, and ruth price is an old woman back then, it's possible that she died in 1994 of an illness. The fact that a location by the adress we know, match so much with the call, is one evidence that maybe this isn't fake. But yhe murder part on the other hand, comes from nothing.
I had the same thought. The statement that she was "brutally raped and murdered" could be true or it could just be ghoolish speculation based on the audio of the call. It gets repeated and soon it is thought to be actual information received from someone who knew.
Yeah it was just a trainee call on what not to do in a 911 call. The operator was supposed to handle the situation as Ruth plays the person on the other side.
Holy shit...I think you just solved why the word "operator" was said. The police dispatcher was talking to the operator, maybe asking her if the woman gave her any identifying info for her location. That's it. She was old. She hit 0 for operator instead of dialing 911 because you're right, that's how we did it way back in the day when we had an emergency. "Operator, get me the police."
When we were doing training, we used this recording as a standard for first responders. I am thankful that it was an act because it is one if those that sticks with you. That's it's point. You never forget this call and it always trains you to ask for the address first or when encountering someone attacked and dying, to get as much information as possible. I think you could you could get documentation from first responder resources, possibly something affiliated with VICAP. This was training that had occurred in the early 90s. I know it was on cassette or maybe just on film. This was in Montana. You could try a larger LEO office but I'd focus on VICAP. Something sticks with me that it was also affiliated with RCMP. These might be leads. Any of these calls stick with you. There are worse calls. When you hear a parent begging for their child's life, or a child crying because their parents are deceased or a spouse begging that their loved one is still alive despite you knowing otherwise ...it is really difficult to not know the outcome or have it weigh on you.
The worst one I’ve ever heard and the one that I’ll never be able to forget was made by a girl who found her brother’s body after he committed suicide. It’s seared into my brain forever. I wish I’d never heard it but, as someone who has dealt with suicidality in the past, it’s kind of something that I needed to hear.
Uh, we don't know if it's an act, and there's more evidence that it's not an act, but that it's a fake story attached to a real call (that's possibly been cut or edited for training purposes) than it being a scripted training recording.
15:06 Many people have pointed out that obituaries often lie. However, this specific Ruth Price seems far more likely than any others. Perhaps someone who lives in the area could manage to get a public records request for her death certificate. There is a public interest. Also if you can find a full listing for this house from 94-97, California law requires that if someone has died in the past three years that fact and the cause must be disclosed. It's a long shot, but if an old listing that says "the previous owner was murdered here" can be found, that's some pretty good proof.
This is frustrating to me. At the very least, Ruth deserves to have her story told as truthfully as possible. It’s what I would want if someone committed a heinous crime to me.
Ruth Mildred Price, of San Diego, CA had an attempted break-in at her home sometime between 1986 and 1992. Her screams were so fearful and shocking that the tape of the interaction she had with a telephone operator was later used unofficially by trainers with 911 call-takers - who spread a sensationalized story that the operator's mistake cost Ruth her life. However, the break-in was either a failed attempt, or Ruth didn't come to harm during it, and she lived on until 1994.
@@heatherwade2373 Well Modern technology (DNA Analysis) has been biting Criminals asses left and right, the fact a single hair piece or human cell can reveal your entire life is cool but scary to think of
So I can answer this - I was a 911 dispatcher for 3.5 years (first trained in 2019), and this is used by a corporate contractor for emergency services providers as a fake recreation of a real call. It’s explicitly created and used so that we understand that the address is the first, second, and third thing on our minds. It’s not real. I’ve been posting as much in TH-cam comments for years, as have many others working in my field, and this is common knowledge for us. It still baffles me today that a corporate training demo that made it online is still being asked about. The company definitely got its money’s worth, considering the free promotion. But yeah. Nothing spooky, just a training exercise leaked as a real thing - like how FEMA’s “zombie response plan” when originally leaked was claimed to be used for real zombies, when really it’s just a training tool for emergency planners to understand the basics.
I am very much of the opinion that it's a very well acted but ultimately scripted call made for training purposes, or at least a recreation of an existing incident. As many people have pointed out before me, it's a good example of hat not to do as an operator and how crucial it is that they get the address immediately so they can send in someone right away, as if there's a patrolling agent nearby, they could have been on the scene in time, or at least it could have scared the intruder away. One very strong piece of evidence for this is how clearly you can hear Ruth while she screams. If she'd been attacked, surely she wouldn't have stayed near the receiver. Either she would have fallen or been whisked away. If nothing else, she would have dropped it. Either way, you would have heard it bump on something and you wouldn't be able to hear the victim so clearly. However, it's a VERY effective piece of disturbing audio, which is sure to stick in the mind of trainees, both making them realize that lives are at stake and that if they can't handle hearing people being in extreme situations and possibly dying while on the line, they should quit now.
What you're saying is true, but it doesn't say the call is fake, its that the story we're told about the call is fake. What will have more impact on people training to be 911 operators? Old lady screams her head off at guy trying to break and enter, drops the phone and runs away to hide, guy is scared off. Or Old lady is brutally assaulted and murdered by prowler while still on the phone?
I agree. I think that weird "operator" in the middle of the scream was actually Ruth asking for the operator that was accidentally left into the final edit. Also, the cut-off address was probably another edit. I do think that the Ruth voice call was from a real call but nothing happened to her in real life
Also, the fact that we don't hear anything from the intruder struck me as weird. Often in those calls, you hear the background commotion. He would have to just... Walk in gently to not be heard. You also don't hear any contact or struggle, just her scream. I ultimately think it's fake but based on real life events.
That's not really evidence though. You assume just because you hear her, that it must be somehow fake. Even though it's totally possible to just freeze up with the receiver in your hand. You also make the assumption that she would have been immediately whisked away, when it can be equally as possible that the perp was far away and she just reacted. I've seen so many people (especially older people) just stand there and scream their head off without dropping or doing anything. To me, her face is also not strictly right next to the phone throughout the entire call either, she sounds further away the more she screams which might mean she put it further away from her or the intruder could have taken the receiver out of her hand and then hung up. Or hit her with it, and then hung up as you can hear some weird bumping. Again, it might not be real, but your interpretation of what is closer to reality doesn't mean it's 'evidence' that it isn't. When freezing and just screaming is just as possible in a real life situation, without it being scripted.
Hello, former 911 dispatcher here. To comment on your second paragraph, that's unfortunately just not how things work out. I have one call that has haunted me to this day, a man was murdered on the other end of the line while talking to me. He was stabbed to death, and I heard everything. I could hear him begging for help, I could hear the knife as the murderer repeatedly stabbed the victim. It was horrible, and there was nothing I could do about it.
Some obituaries will give "died peacefully in their sleep", "after a battle with an illness", or "died from unknown causes" in place of... more grim outcomes. When my grandfather killed himself, the obituary said he "died peacefully in his sleep" and when my great-grandmother was murdered, the obituary said she died of "unknown causes".
@@habib3559 Thank you. My grandfather passed when I was very little and I only got to meet him once since he wasn't married to my grandmother anymore and he lived out of state. My great-grandmother passed way before I was born. Fortunately, they know who did it. Unfortunately, the perpetrator was her husband.
Imagine being the disinterested dispatcher in this call. Imagine screwing up so badly that for decades after it was used as an example of what not to do. I wonder if she knew?
Given her reaction I do suspect she wasn't a trained emergency dispatcher, just a regular operator. (Plus the voice in the middle saying "operator") Even if this was in the era of 911, Ruth might have just dialed 0 by habit, since that's what she would have done most of her life.
Modern 911 calls are riddled with operators that sound rude, bored, and disinterested at best. At worst I've heard ones that literally tell the caller to die or shut up. It seems to be a rampant problem these days.
She could have been in training, too. Her Lack of reaction must show that she was immediately shocked about this being a possibility. After all... There was no example like this to be shown to her beforehand, right?
I am with commenter @BC Bradley here. I am a retired police officer and at one point i was assigned to train new dispatchers, I heard this tape in the police academy in 1999. The fact that the operator says "Operator" during the call seems to me to point to an older phone system for reaching police lending to the pre-911 days. 911 officially went online i'm pretty sure in 1969. That year or prior would be conducive when speaking with an operator. or even early days of 911 before call takers were trained well. One thing we may be able to discern from the audio here is that it was likely recorded prior to 1980 when the FCC passed the Federal Standards Act requiring that a half second burst of a tone at 1400hz is made every 15 seconds to make the other party aware that the conversation is being recorded.Some of the language has been changed since then but we still hear it today because it's still law today. It's federal so it applies to all 50 states. This mystery will probably never be solved unless a retired detective comes forward to say this was one of his cases from a long time ago, or an agency claims ownership. It's not all of the story, it may not even be a part of it, but it's something i haven't seen many people consider.
There is a possibility that “Ruth” in fact wasn’t murdered, and actually died of an illness years later. We simply don’t know the facts from listening to the tape. However, that could explain why the training programs were able to get permission to use the call (in reality it would be pretty macabre to use a murder victim’s last words as an exercise program). The training programs may have gotten a very much alive Ruth’s consent to use the call. The reason why the 911 trainees got the facts wrong may be because the instructor’s simply didn’t know the background and/or because a fabricated backstory simply would emphasize the utmost gravity of asking for the location before doing anything else. Just a thought.
Exactly this. I think it's all solved. The partial address and name lead to a location that matched perfectly down to the apartment in the back, including a dead woman in the right window. Only problem, she died after "a long illness" within 5-6 years of the date of the origin of the tape (expected to be 88 or 89 if it was in use in 1990). It's simple. She wasn't murdered. What you hear is her being attacked, then the perp hanging up the phone. He then continues brutally attacking her. Think night stalker, a similar criminal with a penchant for older victims. Elderly woman suffers brutal assault and rape. She survives, but dies a few years later from the lingering effects. "A long illness." Remember this is common with the elderly: even a broken hip frequently leads to quick decline and death in an otherwise healthy person in their later years. Oh, and all this "permission to use the call" nonsense? Calls to the police are public property. Zero permission involved. They're evidence in criminal cases. It works the other way: the family would need a court order to seal it, and would need to show good evidence why it should be sealed. (Think stuff like the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng torture and rape tapes, those are locked by the courts except for a few small excerpts because of their content.) But yeah. I think we've got it solved. Ruth Price in San Diego, died 1994. Wasn't murdered directly. However, her death might be ruled a homicide if she died of injuries from the attack even in 1994 making it technically accurate that she was raped and murdered. She just didn't die that night.
This theory makes the most sense and if the tape is old it makes sense that the story of Ruth being killed would be passed down by trainers over the years and would be accepted as truth
I thought about this when he said that the Ruth Price at that address died of illness a few years later. It's possible a neighbor heard the commotion and took Ruth to the hospital, especially when you hear that voice toward the end saying "operator?" It could have been someone else she shared a line with.
They don't care about the macabre when selecting recordings for 911 calltaker training. Mine for example included several calls from inside the towers on 9/11 from people who did not escape, the full, unedited versions of which are not available to the general public. That is among many others generated both from other centers and locally. The point is to teach you something about a particular situation. If the results were drastic it simply highlights why it is important.
I'm a dispatcher for an alarm monitoring company. Even we have extremely strict rules regarding the handling of calls and how or when we contact actual authorities. I've heard horror stories of mishandled calls resulting in actual deaths. On every call I take, I handle it as if it's a life or death situation, because it very well might be.
You can really tell a difference between a good operator and someone who is slacking. We can be easy to fall into a routine but you have to realize every time someone’s calling you it’s an emergency for them. I think it’s just snowball to try and do this job, but I definitely understand how, even if it’s every once in a blue moon, hearing something like this could make you completely backed away from the profession.
I have heard this several times over the years and while it seems real to me, it almost makes too good of a training tape. Cut off address, she says "I'm an old lady" and then screaming while the operator does absolutely nothing. This could have been a perfect storm of events but I am on the fence of believing if this is real or not. This video was super well done though, as always! Keep em coming
That's what I'm thinking. Ruth only says like 5 things throughout the call yet unprompted says the things that would get the most sympathy from a listener (I'm and old lady, I live alone). And then the responder not saying anything while she screams.
The operator being completely silent while Ruth is screaming seems way too much like something done for dramatic effect. It's not impossible for real 911 calls to have all these elements (no full address, the caller literally saying 'I'm an old lady', the sound of the struggle being fully audible) but for the stars to align so that all of those things were encompassed within the same couple minutes of audio and then for it to actually become part of a tape used for emergency responder training seems difficult to believe.
Yeah I found it quite strange that the operator said nothing, I've watched a lot of true crime content and usually the operator will try to keep talking like "Ruth? Ruth stay with me, Ruth?" Can any actual 911 or equivalent operators weigh in?
"Operator" Is from the person who answered the call, on another phone line, calling the telephone operator, to get a trace on the original call. Back in the day, when you picked up a phone, and said operator, it would take you to the operator.
@SOSA Unknowns voice? It is clearly the same person. It sounds like the same person, and she is doing exactly what you would expect her to do, which is call the operator for a trace. Everyone else seems to understand, why don't you?
That is really old though. I grew up in the 70’s in a very rural area and we dialed 0 for the operator. You could not just say it. You heard a dial tone until you dialed something. I’ve seen old movies from the 30’s or so where they lifted the receiver and said operator but that was before you could dial a number by yourself. A little old lady (think Ruth Buzzi) sat at a switchboard and when you picked up the receiver, your light came on at the swicbord. The operator would plug her headset into your line and ask you who you wanted to call and then she would connect you. I’m not sure when all that changed. But as a little girl we dialed the operator if it was an emergency and asked her to get the police or fire department, she would connect us and we told them what was wrong. After that we had specific emergency numbers to call. One for the police and one for fire until 911 was established.
I looked it up. By the 1930’s most places in the US could place calls without the use of the operator. So she likely dialed 0 to get the operator and was transferred to police or she dialed the police emergency number herself.
I’m involved with 911 calls in my line of work and I can clarify a few things. The fact that this recording is used for training purposes by 911 centers for new trainees seems legit. I sometimes have to supervise trainees while taking emergency calls and they often “forget” to mention 911 when answering. So the pre-911 portion isn’t viable if the operator forget to mention it in the call.
Thanks so much for the volume warning. I was watching this video while testing out a new set of wireless earbuds, and so far they've been pretty loud even on the lowest volume setting. I pulled those things out of my ears as fast as possible! Insofar as the call, I would also lean towards it being real. The fact that multiple dispatchers during the 90s were aquainted with it is really what's doing it for me. It may not be on the record because in training programs, especially ones from smaller areas, aren't really gonna document every little thing they use. It could have just been particular instructors that liked what the call illustrated to the class, while the lesson plan just said to play a call recording to prove the point.
Hi, I'm also on 911 dispatcher. Something some people are overlooking is there is an element of 911 training where you are shadowed by another dispatcher. During this time, most of these dispatchers have a lot of leeway in how they go about training up their training. For me, I actually did have someone show me this audio file during my shadowing phase of training.
for the first time in my life i was actually so startled i feel uncomfortable and just teared up very quickly hearing the audio. i did not expect it to be that disturbing. holy shit.
I've watched gore videos online, but this audio clip will Always send shivers down my skin! Even if it's a Hoax or Not, what makes this terrifying is that it's horror grounded in grim reality, knowing that that guy could still be alive just makes it haunting
I worked at a police department and my supervisor was once a 911 dispatcher (now an officer) She shares her one call every year during our citizen's police academy where she was dealing with a child who just watched his father shoot his mother and aunt, and was running down the street as the gunman started firing at officers. Another call comes in during this call for an unresponsive infant--my supervisor's 6-month old daughter. Dispatchers have one of the toughest jobs ever. It's incredibly sad how many mental health services for first responders ignore dispatchers.
Other channels: Super disturbing, unsolved content. Who was this women! Why was she so disinterested! Barely: Guess I'll just ask the person who posted it. Oh it's a training video, thank you.
The fact we are probably hearing a real call/reenactment of a real call meant to train First Responders in one of the most horrifying situations and essentially to scare them in to teaching a lesson while also showing them a grim reality of what you will be dealing with is utterly terrifying. We as a general public we’re never meant to hear this, because we, as a general public, are not signing up for something so… well… visceral. Sorry for stuffing up your comment section. This video has made me spiral right on waking up. It’s a good video though. Just god damn… This is bleak.
No I agree, it puts into perspective the work a lot of first responders deal with that is often ignored. 911 operators deal with a lot of stuff, prank calls, people calling for non emergency reasons, but the worst is probably hearing stuff like this. No wonder 911 operators often get burned out and suffer mentally themselves.
I think it’s most likely a recording created for training purposes as well. Cutting off someone giving their address during a call is something even the least experienced of operators know not to do and it’s likely intentionally being done as a teaching device for new hires
I worked as an emergency call handler in the UK for the 999 service. We were never played any audio from previous emergency calls, we were the first person to take the call from whoever was ringing and we would have to pass them off to the police, fire service, ambulance service or coast guard. It was pretty harrowing, honestly and maybe I would have left sooner if I had been played something like this. Wouldn't recommend it as a job to anyone.
15:00 - But how does death due to an illness disproves this Ruth Price being the one in the call? We don't know she was killed in during the break-in, that is just part of the legend... all we have is the name, phone call and an address. She might have been assaulted but wasn't actually killed during the home invasion and died years later due an illness. The 3877 35th St theory seems solid to me.
EXACTLY. It doesn't suit "Slightly Sociable's" bias - they WANT the call to remain mysterious because that's more interesting. It's already been proven that the Ruth Price of 3877 who died of an illness WAS the Ruth Price in this call. She scared the attacker away and wasn't murdered. There is a reddit thread with links to newspaper articles about this from the time. This "investigator" just wasn't interested in the truth.
I heard this call when I was a criminal justice student years ago, I never questioned its reality or use as a training device. It's kinda creepy, it comes back up every now and then in a different place like this
1:29 this has happened before though. many times because some of them dont care. do you remember that 911 operator berating a woman who got stuck in her car on a flooded road until she eventually drown?
I did dispatch training in FL for EMS (shortly before doing EMT training) before moving overseas and I remember hearing this call. Really sticks with you. (which is the point) It's entirely possible this doesn't take place in the US and that's why you don't hear any 911 jargon, but I don't know if I believe that. I personally think this was in the US, from the mid 1960s to early 70s, and likely in a more rural area to boot. The call itself can't be older than the 60's. Cassettes and 8-tracks didn't become mainstream in use until the early to mid 60's. (they're not invented before the 60s iirc) Before that it was all vinyl and there's no way this came from a vinyl. Call recording started in the early 1900s, but it didn't sound this crisp until much later. Even the mention of an "operator" isn't that odd if this call takes place in the 60s-70s when an "emergency operator" was still a common term. Given this woman would've been a young adult when operators (like legit operators) were still in use she may just be using something familiar to her in an emergency situation. Why I go with the above timeframe is not only because the tech lines up, but the emergency system at that time hardcore sucked. The more rural your area the worse it got until the 80's and 90's when things started being ironed out. 911 as we know it is a rather modern blessing. (EMS was barely a thing until 1973) Implementations on who to properly answer an emergency call were slow to roll out. I suppose it still could take place in Canada, but no ones speech patterns line up with that theory. (even northern US states sound pretty distinctly different from this) Tracking who this is from obituaries is going to be virtually impossible. My mom writes those for the newspaper (has since I was a kid) and never once have I seen one where the family mentions the individual was m**dered or r**ed even in high profile cases. That's not something families want to focus on or have on blast for the whole world to see after losing a loved one. It's just... not a good way to track this. You'd need to track it via police records and without knowing where this happened in the first place you've got yourself a good needle in a haystack situation. (and that's if the records aren't lost by this point) Sorry for the long comment! Great vid as always! Bonne chance!
I was an EMT in Tennessee. We were played this call in our EMT program in 2016. This wasn’t necessarily part of an official statewide training protocol, but we had two former dispatchers in our program who had both heard it during their dispatch training.
It’s possible she survived the attack and died in ‘94. Also have to call 911 a lot for my job and usually hearing “operator” again means they’ve conference called to a another department or operator.
I was training to be a 911 operator in 2018. I also had to listen to this as part of my training, as well as a call where I child was trying to report his mom's boyfriend hurting her before he and the mother were killed by the boyfriend. It's true, dispatchers don't often get to hear how the situations behind the calls play out. Some officers, if they can, will drop by after particularly intense calls and let the dispatcher know the outcome. There are a few, though, where I never learned what happened after the call disconnected, and even years later they haunt me.
I was a dispatcher for 24 years and it sounds real to me. Dispatcher did a crap job. First thing you do is get address and get officers dispatched. I'm thinking maybe this was from a really small department and they weren't good at keeping records properly.
I remember hearing this online in the early 2000's and it seemed so real. It's possible it could be a fake and it's something I've thought of before as well, but something about that scream... it's either someone who is genuinely terrified and going through possibly horrific things, or someone really knows how to act.
Depending on how old this is, she might have dealt with actual phone operators in her life. Like REAL phone operators. The ones who had to make the switches flip to connect calls to other people. They were called “operators.” It could be a remnant of her past and the stress of the situation had her reverting to it. Strange, but also fitting for the scenario. It could actualy end up adding authenticity for being such an obscure detail if this isn’t covered.
The hard part for me is figuring out whether those screams, and the slight squeak/gasp at the end, is the murderer or if it is ruth. The unkown voice saying operator is creepy too. To be honest, this sound clip is going to haunt me. As bad, if not worse, than the screams i heard when i was in a certain type of "hospital"
yeah i was wondering what that squeak at the end was it could be ruth trying to pick back up the phone receiver but failing but that doesn’t make since now we know she wasn’t murdered maybe the person recording this off of the cassate tape accidentally rewinded back to the end of the help me breath and receiver dropping part.
I lean towards this tape being fake, possibly made for the purpose of teaching dispatchers what not to do on a call. Consider the lack of background noise. If this woman is being attacked, why do we only hear her voice? Why can't we hear her attacker moving around? If she's holding the phone, we should be able to hear the sound of that phone moving around with her as she's attacked. If she's not holding it, it would have to be on speaker in which case we should hear more than just her. It's also possible that she was holding it but dropped it while being attacked, but I can't hear anything that sounds like a phone falling; if it was a corded phone I would expect it to hit the wall, and if it was cordless it should have hit either the floor or whatever hard surface (table, countertop) it was above. In my opinion if the call is real one of two things must be true: either this is a "cleaned up" version with background noises removed, or it's a recreation. If it's a recreation the name of the caller may have been changed to something common out of respect, which would fit with there also being a censored version. I see why this makes a good training tape. Not only did the operator cut Ruth off before getting her address, she doesn't even try to keep Ruth on subject. It feels like too perfect of an example of what not to do for it to be a real case. Of course, without a confirmed time frame there's no way to be sure if the operator went against standard practice or not.
I called "fake" as soon as you realize the whole thing plays like it's a script. It's constantly ramping up the suspense and making dramatic pauses where appropriate. In addition, during the fight/struggle sequence, what kind of person is being strangled yet thinks it's a good idea to narrate it to the operator instead of using said phone as a weapon or at the very least dropping it and trying to run somewhere you can lock yourself to safety? It's effective at being a training tape though. It deliberately provokes an anxiety response that good operators must learn to overcome and control.
@@Blakbox92 There's different versions and BS edited this one for brevity's sake. There's a moment near the end where Ruth exclaims "H-He's chokiiiiiiing meeeeee".
@@xlixity I listened to the longer recording and it's not clear what's said at all, it's just what the uploader thinks is said, or what the transcript they copied from another person claims. I've heard people say "He's stabbing me" "He's choking me" or "help me (to) breathe"... to me it sounds like it also could be "please help me" "please send help! please!" "can/please someone send the police!" "he's getting in help me please!". It's so muffled and distorted that you could read maybe a dozen different phrases out of the audio that would all make sense in the same context. I don't think she was attacked at all, I think someone tried to break in, and she's panicking as they attempt to break down the door or get into a window.
"If she's holding the phone, we should be able to hear the sound of that phone moving around with her as she's attacked. " what? what makes you think she was immediately attacked? She could have just be surprised by someone coming in through a window, or trying to open a door and just stood there screaming. She's an old lady after all wtf can she do she most likely was staying put and watching her windows for the man to come back, since she said she heard weird noises out back on some extension of her house. It's likely it fell, since there was also a bassy thump, and the intruder took the phone and hung it up (and yes, sometimes it does just sound like that. For someone making the argument that this is scripted you have some pretty dramatic ideas of how sounds play out in real life) you also overestimate the amount of noise criminals make and the amount of noises phones can pick up. If someone is yelling or talking, you're not going to hear any background noise. I've heard some of my fair share of 911 calls, one where a woman had an ex trying to pound her door down and you wouldn't have even known if she hadn't told the dispatcher this
I managed to find a newspaper clipping that described and matched perfectly. The reason for the lack of evidence and documentation is because she didn't die she survived the attack.
It seems too high quality to be a real recording from the pre-911 era. Recording seems too expensive to be likely back then. Even on the off chance that it was recorded, it would mean multiple format changes between the original and finally being made into a digital audio file. Degradation from that process just seems absent in the recording. A staged 911 recording to serve as an example for a training class seems much more likely. Training materials get posted online all the time and if the trainer calls it a real call to add gravitas, all the better. That seems most likely.
Some people have speculated that it's a reenactment of an actual call - the 911 system also took decades to be fully implemented across the US so it's possible it only dates back to the 80s or maybe even 90s. There is also of course the chance that it was completely staged, altho I'd imagine even if it is staged it was likely based on real calls they'd had.
@@amoureux6502 I can believe it's a reenactment or totally fabricated training call but it hits "worst case scenario" so squarely on the nose I tend to think it's fabricated. "I had a rough morning and interrupted the caller's name and addr-OH NO SHE'S BEING MURDERED WHILE I'M FORCED TO LISTEN AND CARRY THE BURDEN OF MY MISTAKE FOR LIFE!"
@@fixedG That's fair - it also makes we wonder if the audio is spliced together, maybe the part with Ruth was a 411 call or something and the scream was taken from another source. Could explain why the operator just doesn't speak in the second half. This would raise the question why the sources for each half hadn't been found but with how sensationalized this version is, it's possible no one is looking.
This makes sense to me. I've heard calls from the pre-911 era, and... You can tell. Tape noise, equipment noises all over, and just general very low quality audio.
I'm inclined to agree, the loud rumbling in the background (almost makes it sound like it was recorded in a moving car or something) is distractingly loud yet it's easier to make out words being said on this recording from a pre-Internet phone line (possibly copied an unknown number of generations since it's said to have originally circulated on tape) than it is to make out any of the lyrics in "fond my mind" or "in the wind" which were recorded straight off the FM (I guess?) radio decades ago? Hmm...
"one of the most infamous 911 calls on the internet, mostly due to how downright disturbing it is..." I'm so glad I'm watching this alone with the lights off at midnight!
The best theory I've seen is that the call originates from the Ruth Price that lived in San Diego and who died in 1994, the call originates in a pre 9-11 era, and that the content of the call is not the sound of her being murdered but rather the sound of a very scared old woman's reaction to an attempted non-lethal break in. The call likely circulated in pre-9-11 emergency dispatch service training as a result of both the critical error in procedure and the call's dramatic content. Once the call was removed from its original context human imagination went wild and produced the myth of the grisly murder of Ruth Price alongside the actual living Ruth Price.
So I only just realised slightly sociable existed. I live for barely sociable new clips. So I just found myself a whole new bundle of joy. You legend 🙏
We gotta remember also that the woman didn't necessarily die.. it sounds like she is experiencing something horrific, but he might have just punched her, hung up the phone and run. Yes, she probably would have been followed it up with a call to explain this, but it would also explain why there is no missing person/murder case for Ruth. Or maybe this is just wishful thinking :/
I think the biggest giveaway for me is that the audio stays pretty constant throughout her screaming. Is she holding the phone up to her head as she's screaming? If somebody attacked her, then it's ridiculous to think the victim would do that and not drop the phone or at least move the hand holding the phone away from their face. Also, for an old lady she has quite the lung capacity, don't you think?
@@martind17331 ooo very true.. she doesn't sound tooooo old tho.. i guess people's definition of old can vary. I know people in their 60s who would be able to scream like this. People react differently in fight or flight situations. There are any number of things that could have resulted in her reacting like this, and that doesn't have to involve direct violence being done towards her at that moment. Also, I know that sometimes older people, especially back in the 60's (if that is really when it is from) can sometimes feel embarrassed that they are wasting people's time, so perhaps the guy appeared at her window and she freaked, he bolted cos it was... an absolutely bloodcurdling scream (giving me goosebumps just thinking about it again) and ran, she got embarrassed that she overeacted cos she seems very composed up until then. She may have gone all out with her scream to frighten off the perp. Idk man.. maybe my brain is just constructing these situations cos I want her to be alright.
@@martind17331 Right, we don't hear anything and the audio sounds way too constant. The operator doesn't even ask if she's okay or what's going on or anything. In the JonBenet Ramsay call you can hear shuffling and background noise as the mother tries to hang up.
@@martind17331 I think the scream is one from fear as the man attempts to break in, not her dying scream or something. The thud is not a body or a blow from the attacker, but of her dropping the receiver. The recording cut out afterwards because: A) the open endedness makes it better for training B) the call was handed off to 911 - it seems almost certain that the person who answered was not a 911 dispatcher, perhaps any further recording was lost C) the line had gone dead or the phone wasn't hung up and there was nothing further recorded We have to remember that we don't even know if this is the full call, it could have been edited even before being put online.
Thank you for the fair warning when she started screaming. Very professional of you in all seriousness. I've heard this audio before and her scream is spine chilling, especially when you hear it first time. Anyways Thank you good sir!
I am a 911 operator and I am fairly sure we had this call used as one of the many calls we were played while training. Each call usually addressed a main failure in the 911 system and were used as examples of why certain rules were required. The agency that trained my center was the IAED (International Academy of Emergency Dispatch).
As I was hearing this and reading some comments I thought of a few things: It could be a reenactment of an emergency call transcript. This would explain why the audio is of high quality when it is supposedly copied from tape to tape. It's also a bit too drastic which is perfect for training 911 operators. It could be a real call and the emergency operator got so scared they stepped away from the phone. This operator could have called either their supervisor or another emergency operator (hence the random "operator" in the middle of the recording). Since the situation was too much they could have stepped away since they couldn't handle it, thus the silence. Another idea is that Ruth Price could have never been identified when they found her or they never found her at all. Since she never gave her address the police could have located her body but never identified it as Ruth Price, thus declaring her as Jane Doe. Or it could be that she was never found and thus was placed as a missing person case.
This one recording is the reason I always start an emergency call with my location. Based on the way Ruth talks, I don't think it's scripted, and fabricating it would probably cost a lot more than just using an actual recorded phone call. I do hope one day we'll know more.
the way you phrase this makes it seem like you've gone through several emergency calls throughout your life, unless you actually have, then, i guess it makes sense
@@johnnyfrankenstein0123 Just a few, mostly for other people, but yes my opening line every time has been my location. "I'm on interstate x near exit y and there's a large object in the middle of a lane" "I'm at x address and someone is outside yelling to call the police" etc - maybe my life isn't in immediate danger but it's something I learned specifically from this story.
When I first heard it years ago I assumed it was fake because the dispatcher was just... so bad. She was disinterested, cut the caller off, didn't ask for an address, says nothing while the woman screams. I've both called 911 enough times in my life, and heard enough 911 calls, to know that dispatchers ask for location repeatedly if it's not given right away. It's a priority. Then I saw the claim it was pre-911, and so then I wasn't so sure. Policy and procedure has changed so much over time as a result of the things we've learned. If it was a training video, it could be real or staged and the people using it might not even know themselves. I think until we find some evidence like an article describing the crime itself that we'll not be able to say one way or another.
@@liyre4189 Very true, and operators are human and make mistakes. But the recordings I've heard of that still have some traces of standardized training, which is why I feel if this is real, it'd have to be before all that got implemented.
I also heard that this is basically a 911 training call. What not to do when fielding those calls. I also heard that Ruth was okay and did not perish during the incident.
I’ve never been able to shake the feeling that this audio was a stinger for a movie. The clarity of the audio, the interruption on a pause, the silence during the scream, the lack of “disruptive” noises during the ending. It’s always felt very strange
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Someone saying 'operator' in middle of call is very strange.
Honestly the weirdest detail. Only found in the earliest versions of the audio too...
If the original was on tape, is it possible that someone accidentally recorded over it, maybe "operator" was some one asking a question "what did the operator do wrong"?
@@Lambo_94 or possibly it was a recording of someone watching the tape and one of the people watching it was asking where the operator was. ("C" mentioned it was used in a training program, possibly it was one of the trainees.)
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Hey, mister. Another gem, Barely. Your research is impressive, as always. Thanks for all of your hard work.
I hope you're doing well.
I miss "the making of" sessions, so I'll try to catch up with you "there". ✌🏻
Take best care, and get some f*cking sleep! 🤗
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“I don’t want to jump scare you.”
THANK YOU!
I was so glad that he gave a warning, I've heard the worst part at least twice and it's still so awful to hear
He’s super professional. Jump scares are never his intent and I love that.
I remember the days of TH-cam screamo vids, not a great time
I just went to comments to say the exact same thing 😅
Isn't that the point of this sort of video???? People are afraid of their own shadows these days.
I stumbled on this a few years ago and was haunted enough to do my own research. From what I’m aware - the call transcript was based on an actual 911 call that went bad as a demonstration for trainees to teach them what not to do. However, the audio is not from the original, as I’m pretty sure there are laws/protocols prohibiting that. The transcript it’s based on is real.
I saw this too, forgot to add this in, iirc it was another rumor that came out of 4chan were one user on Reddit claimed there was a thread about it.
I checked all archives from there and found nothing :/
@@SlightlySociable bingo! Yes, I did see several threads (mostly Reddit) on it. It just seemed an easier pill to swallow - to believe that the audio was faked but the transcript real - than think that I’d just listen to a woman dying.
Cheers for the response!
@@mythologystar1365 you haven't listened to many people on 911 calls....
@@joemoment-o1275 and that's probably a good thing
911 calls get released all the time though, you can listen to lots of them right here on youtube
What else is creepy is when Ruth is pausing ever so often as she's telling the operator that she doesn't know where he is. Almost like she hears something, but still unsure.
This point is so haunting man. I swear to god she reminded me of my Grandma before she died. She would call one of my family members and one of us would go stay with her. But most of us would just think it was a false alarm and think she was tripping. But years later after she passed I had heard this call and it just ran my blood cold and made me thank God she never was part of an attack one of the times we didn't go becuase she called so often.
100%. Phones back in the day had cords and were plugged into the wall. Based off her pauses, I agree that she is looking or moving around her room or house.
**blood-curdling screams**
Subtitles: **applause** "wow"
Lol yeah😂
Damn 😆.
I’m leaning towards it being a training tape amalgamated from various prowler calls from the 80’s, meant to show the importance of getting as much information up front to get resources started as quickly as possible, and/or to show how a call can go wrong. I’m an EMT and can’t speak to operator and dispatcher training, but the abundance of anecdotal evidence of people in the lates 80’s and through the 90’s listening to this tape leads me to believe it was used as a training aid or, as you said, to weed out recruits who couldn’t stomach the possibility that they might, and probably would over the course of a career, hear someone’s violent end.
I remember the days after 9/11 on a tvspecial that those doomed on the planes called 911 to give their last words to families then suddenly silence.
@@josephcontreras8930 damn.
@@josephcontreras8930 I was under the impression that the last few seconds on the planes were cut off off in broadcasts out of respect for those dying and to spare the families hearing the crash.
I say this because I also recall that the FBI stated at one point that while there was an explosion, there wasn't two distinct sounds. A bomb would be two sounds very close together as first the bomb detonated, then a second explosion of the fuel tanks.
I actually was a 911 dispatcher. I can't speak for other jurisdictions and other training programs, but this was used in my telecommunicator class. It wasn't used to desensitize us - if you worked for 911, you very much know you're eventually going to hear someone die or their last words. It was actually used as a guide on how to get all the crucial information (address etc) and then to shut the fck up and listen to the background - because a good dispatcher listens to the caller and their background.
@@cerinthe802 this call in particular seems suspicious as to it's veracity, unless it's been edited to make a point. It's just very dense in information and teaching moments, and then the jump scare of sorts at the end. And the details of what happened to her are delivered by the instructor, as a framing device for why getting the critical information early could have helped. Maybe there was an original underlying call that was slightly condensed?
As someone who has conducted trainings, we often repeat stories we heard from our own trainings that had a big impact. Some of these stories go back decades, long past the ability to authenticate or get the true story.
The operator not saying anything is good. It would make it harder to hear the background sounds in the tape that might lead to the killer or what he was doing.
Can you tell me one of those stories?
Yea, that's actually crazy true for a lot of things, I find it fascinating as I get older. It's basically modern local folklore at a stretch. I've worked in training roles myself and its exactly as you said it, you literally absorb all the previous trainers stories and add any of your own, telling it to an entire class of people who may _one day_ get promoted up to being a trainer and do the same. You end up with stories that start with "when I first started 10 years ago, my trainer told me about...", so already that story is 10+X years old, and _even then_ who's to say that person didn't hear it from someone else, and so on, and so on.
Come to think of it, you got me thinking. You remember how when you were at school however many years ago, for me 22+ years ago, there would always be a school ghost story or infamous story, Bloody Mary's etc. We had one at my school I vividly remember being called "Hockey Girl" (worst name ever... but at least it's descriptive) who would "appear" sometimes in the girls bathrooms and smash the place up, sinks and toilets ripped from the walls and mirrors smashed. Happened twice when I was there, but, easy to see its just a twat of a kid wrecking the place in hindsight, anyways, I remember speaking to my mum about it when I was a kid, and she basically said she heard the exact same thing when she went to that school when she was a kid 30-ish years prior. Now, that school only hosted like ages 7-10, so, imagine how long these kids have been passing down that story over a small 3 year block of pupils. Playground legends and ghost stories are like trainer stories on steroids.
It actually boggles my mind because you write something down in a book, it remains forever... but that would imply that someone would have to read it, which, over time it could very easily get forgotten about or irrelevant. Video and photographs and audio recordings are similar and the internet is a whole different matter as these days its easy to archive and catalogue _most_ things. But, yea, surprisingly an extremely powerful tool is word-of-mouth for passing down stories, memories and histories.
@@zubrhero5270 It's called an apocryphal story
@@SonicAvalanche oh nice, cheers!
Sure it's 4:38am, but I'll bite
wtf u are 2 hrs into the future. My time reads 2:45am
@@zeldaadlez3377 it's 10:50pm Here. I start work at 4:30 🤣 kronic
@@zeldaadlez3377 mine too OMG are we in the same time machine?
😂 I’m an hour ahead of you and am deep into the youtube rabbit hole myself. By the way, I see you in a ton of comment sections! I commend you on your taste!
Must suck being in the past, where I’m at this was uploaded at 6:38am
- Timestamps -
00:00 Introduction
03:03 The Limited Amount Of Documentation
07:28 The Spread And Rumors About The Call
15:12 The Mysterious Legend Of Ruth Price
16:52 Conclusion
17:17 Outro/Endscreen
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It was used in 911 Dispatch training; I was a supervisor of a team that received 911 training as part of a security operations team for a fortune 100 company. This particular recording trains Operators not to dismiss calls based on bias and to always ask the key questions and take control of the call. I discovered it originally in 1998. It was on a pro-gun website that was posturing the recording as an argument that "if Ruth had a gun, she'd still be with us" etc. I learned about the 911 training 15 years later, when i was working for that company previously mentioned but which will remain unnamed.
Bump
That’s pretty stupid of the gun site given Ruth survived the encounter and died peacefully years later without the use of a gun
@@emilybarclay8831 the world is pretty stupid and lots of people like to twist media for their own end... hmm
@emily barclay Not stupid at all because she could've ended the attack. Death isn't the only bad outcome
Well it pretty much doesn't matter if she survived or not. It's more if the fact that If she DID have a gun it would have increased her chances of survival even more. It could have been a mock up video that was acted for the purpose of pushing being pro gun and they can still say that. It's pretty much just an example of a situation.
His voice is so deep, my cheap earphone turns into subwoofer.
It's not so much deep as like... bass-y? Like a kind of clipped vocal fry. Idk. I think more of like MamaMax or Corpse Husband when I think of super deep voices. So low it's amazing they're able to project their voices at all, yanno?
yoo its nerv
Filters and equalizer. Listen to the streams. He voice is more high pitched IRL.
@@SonofTheMorningStar666 he is also talking very quietly and boosting the volume in editing
Cmon, launch the Human Instrumentality Project!
It feels like too much of a coincidence that they’ve found a Ruth Price that lives at a 3877 address with a spare apartment out back, and she’s not the same woman in the recording.
Yeah I think it's her and she didn't die from the attack.
I agree, that's super coincidental. I think either she didn't die from an attack or that the family labeled her death as "suddenly from illness" in the obituary as to avoid stating "murder"
This is exactly what I was thinking, and she probably wasn't murdered. Who the heck knows why she was screaming. The real recording might have followed the screaming and silence with the operator asking her what's going on and her telling them someone was breaking into her apartment and then giving a full address. The real recording might have been that there was a mouse. Who the heck knows. Someone else later decides that cutting the call short and telling people that she was murdered would make a great training tool. Realize that we only have a copy of the training tape, not the original.
@@dwidep Exactly. It could very well be that this call was cut on purpose a long time ago too because the rest of the tape was, say, not useful for training purposes, and it would be a lot easier to highlight the importance of the process for emergency operators by stating (falsely or otherwise) that the caller was the eventual victim of a violent and unsolved crime.
Exactly. I think it was her, but she didn't actually die in the attack.
i noticed everybody who has made a video about this has always assumed that she died in the attack. Maybe she survived the attack and died of an illness years later. People do survive attacks even if the perpetrator has a weapon and yet, there is no indication in the audio file that he even has a weapon, i'm sure Ruth would have mentioned it if he did
If you listen carefully to the audio after the attack starts you can hear her saying "He's stabbing me", or at least that's what I hear and I've seen other people saying that they hear the same thing. You can hear this in the video if you pay attention between 2:38 and 2:41.
@@giovannichardonne3545 I'm sorry, but I listened to this multiple times, and I'm not hearing it. It's so muffled and the audio cuts out that it could be anything, to me it sounded like "he's breaking in" or "he's getting in", possibly "please (god?) help me", "please sen- help me" the only concrete thing to be made out is that she speaks three or four words, with the second word possibly being two syllables, and the first word she speaks has an "ee" sound like "he" or "please".
We don't know if that's an attack being recorded at all, especially since she doesn't seem to get any further from the receiver. I don't think holding a corded phone, potentially attached to a wall, or a heavy old rotary phone while being stabbed or strangled is very likely.
Maybe the attack caused her illness.
@@giovannichardonne3545 If that's the case, perhaps an acute injury from the stabbing caused her chronic illness. Organ damage, for example.
I hear "please help me!"
So grateful for the jumpscare warning before the moment btw. Probably one of the most viscerally terrifying noises I've ever heard, and pairing that with how fuckn loud it is, I think that moment would've been ripe for a few days of trauma if I had kept listening to it at the same level I was before you had warned me. Good video 👌
‘Few days’??? Damn some seriously sensitive people out there dramatically sooo affected and traumatized by the smallest simplest things!
This call is still used in training for 911 courses, as of 2019 anyway. My friend had a dispatch course they took after school, and that call (real or fake) is still used as examples of what not to do, and to also give people an example of the things they may heat on a real call (referring specifically to the end of the call). She was pretty disturbed by it when she heard it, because I remember her telling me about it later that night.
There is no way her cause of death would have been listed in an obituary if this is a real person and a real reason for her death. Yes sometimes families will write that someone "passed away suddenly" as a cause of death when something traumatic happens, but not always. I am constantly reading through obits for geneological purposes, and even when someone is murdered or died in a traumatic accident, it's far more common for the family to not list a cause of death or in the case of the elderly to just say they died after an illness or of whatever ailment they were suffering from at the time. Especially if this woman was r4p3d, I think the family would not want that information published to give the woman a bit more of a normal funeral and death experience that doesn't leave people dwelling on the worst moment of her life.
In addition, I was wondering if this call could have originated in an English speaking region of Canada rather than in the United States. It could possibly be why no obit or matching address has yet to be found. I would really like to look into this more, and if you would like to do an even deeper dive into this with me Sociable, let me know. Hopefully my genealogical research skills could be of use to find more information on this woman and put to rest if it is a legit call or not.
this is exactly what i was thinking, nobody would want to have their family member remembered in this way.
I hate that this immediately made me think of the “in memoriam” part of the Baby of the Year sketch in an episode of I Think You Should Leave.
“Tinky Dinky Daffy 1927-2019, pancakes by drunk dump truck driver”
“Little Jeffy Jeremy 1923-2019, throat slashed”
also everyone says she was murdered but isn't the whole mystery that we don't know what happened to this woman? its possible she lived despite the deathly screams.
That’s kind of what I was wondering- either it was listed as an illness falsely, or she didn’t actually die from the attack and later died of an illness- or from an illness or injury brought on by the attack. Especially if she was older, it’s totally possible for one’s health to go downhill after something like that.
This was my first thought. The families of AIDS victims in the 80s and 90s regularly fictionalized the cause of death. I can easily see a grisly murder being changed to "long illness."
I've never heard this in a training but I was a dispatcher for fire and EMS for a large factory the size of a city. I watched a guy die over a camera and him get hauled out in an ambulance. I never heard anything else about it. It stuck with me tho. No one could tell me when happened after because privacy laws. It directly contributed to me having a mental break. 911 dispatchers are a different breed, they heard the worst moments of people's lives. My hat off to people who do this for years.
Respect. I hope you have recovered
I think people underestimate how hard it is to be a first responder: whether by phone, video, or in person. I hope you're doing better now!
I can't even imagine how difficult it would be. I think the not knowing how things played out after would torture me. Hopefully you're doing better now.
Seriously. People do not take care of these dispatchers. At all.
Like.
At all.
They NEED better help resources because like you said, you only call them (usually) during the most horrible moments of your life.
These people live on the edge of the worst times of everyone and are the *first* line of help in nearly every case. It’s sad. Horrible. And I’m sorry you’re experience resulted in a break.
I hope you’re well and better now. Thank you for your service.
Hell, when I just _hear_ more than one fire truck/ambulance/cop car go by I get frustrated because I feel like I _need_ to know what happened. I do not know how I’d be able to deal with not knowing what happened after ascertaining details directly from the person involved in the incident.
What do obituaries usually say in cases where the deceased died violently? I can't imagine that they'd just straight up put "raped and murdered" in there. The thought even occurred to me that someone might put "died after a long illness" in such an obituary just to cover for such a emotionally difficult detail, but maybe that's reaching
That's what I'm thinking. You have to remember, the family is who write obituary's, so theoretically they could write anything they wanted. Maybe someone in the family wrote an obituary listing a different cause of death to "protect" the rest of the family and public from emotional trauma.
they do things like that, i do bereavement calls for people who die in hospice or the hospital i volunteer at. covid obituaries tend to just. not have a cause of death. even people who die of cancer in hospice don't always have a cause of death written in, and that is pretty much always the definition of "died of a prolonged illness". families don't often want to say how their loved ones died because it upsets them
No. Obituaries don't usually list any cause of death unless it was long-term illness. Even then sometimes those are not listed. Obituaries are also not written by the newspapers that run them. Usually they are done by funeral homes or the family of the deceased. (source, I've worked at newspapers for a decade)
Has anybody tried to find the family or neighbors of that Ruth Price and get in touch with them? Maybe some can still be around....
In the UK weusually just say "tragically", "sadly", or "suddenly" in official obituaries, even if it's a notorious crime and the news has covered what really happened. Sometimes it might be "brutally taken from us" or suchlike.
It is quite rare for an obituary to list the actual cause of death and they might use a euphemism like "after a long illness" etc.
Update:
It is a real phone call. Ruth Price actually scared of the attacker and died peacefully of old age in 1994.
Where did you find this information?
@@CraftySouthpaw bullshit, I ain't opening that
@@taxisalad It links to a video by Barely Social himself. If you don't want to click the link for some reason just search for "The Ruth Price Phone Call Was Solved"
@@rokkudayo apologies fam, I just figured it was a rickroll or smth
@@taxisalad chill the fuck out jesus christ dude
I'm so proud of Ruth for scaring away the intruder. I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been. This call definitely highlights a huge mistake on the operator's part and I can totally see why they use it for training. It was definitely a scary mystery for many years, but I'm glad in the end there was a happy ending after that call. Ruth Price lived 14 years after this before passing away in '94. Rest in Peace Ruth, you're my Hero.
who told you this lmao
@@pleaseno7555 i remember a video where someone said that she survived the attack
What a badass
whats your source
@@totally.normal Slightly sociable released a followup "The Ruth Phone Call Was Solved".
"This photo is of a woman who shot and killed her neighbor who refused to kiss her on the cheek before leaving..."
WHOA wait, I want a video about that story! What the heck?
Classic florida
Nah that's just Florida being Florida
“Seinfeld After Dark: Del Boca Vista”
@@Amar-mc8qd Someone should make a channel that ONLY covers the wild and unusual stories from Florida. They would never run out of content to talk about...
@@misterb3577 yeah
I get a dopamine rush every time Slightly Sociable uploads. Way better than that guy Barely Sociable.
lol.. i was hoping it was SR2, but still a great vid.
wait until you hear about this barely musical guy
@@heyryanisonx3141 the soundcloud rapper?
Barely sociable more like barely any good vidoes
@@glock7580 Barely Reddit fake stories
Thanks for the sound warning, bought me time to grab the blanket and hide under it. Holy shit that scream is scary.
This is a training call underscoring the importance of getting the address ASAP. This call has been "demystified" for almost a decade.
Regarding the case of the ruth price living at the 3877 that was found dead in 1994 of an illness.
I think it might be the real one, let met explain.
The misleading part this story is in the description of the audio file, where it says that she was "murdered" or "raped and murdered".
But as a lot of people said, what's creepy in these calls for an operator is that you never know the outcome of what is happening in the phone call.
My theory is that, she wasn't murdered, nor raped. She could have survived an assault, the scream could be just fear, or real pain but with no death involved.
If the phone call really is in the late 80's, and ruth price is an old woman back then, it's possible that she died in 1994 of an illness.
The fact that a location by the adress we know, match so much with the call, is one evidence that maybe this isn't fake.
But yhe murder part on the other hand, comes from nothing.
I had the same thought. The statement that she was "brutally raped and murdered" could be true or it could just be ghoolish speculation based on the audio of the call. It gets repeated and soon it is thought to be actual information received from someone who knew.
She may have been hallucinating.
i have a genuine question. How can people identify that she was r*ped?? When I first listened, I just thought she was stabbed.
Yeah it was just a trainee call on what not to do in a 911 call. The operator was supposed to handle the situation as Ruth plays the person on the other side.
Imagine just having all your viewers do your job for you in the comments
A long time ago in Canada (Ontario), we used to be able to dial "0" to connect to Police/Ambulance/Fire through an operator.
Holy shit...I think you just solved why the word "operator" was said. The police dispatcher was talking to the operator, maybe asking her if the woman gave her any identifying info for her location.
That's it. She was old. She hit 0 for operator instead of dialing 911 because you're right, that's how we did it way back in the day when we had an emergency. "Operator, get me the police."
This should be pinned
It's funny that people don't know about dialing 0 for the operator.
Show someone under 25 a rotary phone and ask them how it works.
It sucks getting old.
You can find a Leolla Ruth Price, aged 81, who died on April 16 1988 in Essex Ontario Canada, ???? Maybe
When we were doing training, we used this recording as a standard for first responders. I am thankful that it was an act because it is one if those that sticks with you. That's it's point. You never forget this call and it always trains you to ask for the address first or when encountering someone attacked and dying, to get as much information as possible. I think you could you could get documentation from first responder resources, possibly something affiliated with VICAP. This was training that had occurred in the early 90s. I know it was on cassette or maybe just on film. This was in Montana. You could try a larger LEO office but I'd focus on VICAP. Something sticks with me that it was also affiliated with RCMP. These might be leads. Any of these calls stick with you. There are worse calls. When you hear a parent begging for their child's life, or a child crying because their parents are deceased or a spouse begging that their loved one is still alive despite you knowing otherwise ...it is really difficult to not know the outcome or have it weigh on you.
amen my friend
The worst one I’ve ever heard and the one that I’ll never be able to forget was made by a girl who found her brother’s body after he committed suicide. It’s seared into my brain forever. I wish I’d never heard it but, as someone who has dealt with suicidality in the past, it’s kind of something that I needed to hear.
We don't know if it was an act though.
@@Macachee Right, did this person even watch the video and did the people who liked the comment too?
Uh, we don't know if it's an act, and there's more evidence that it's not an act, but that it's a fake story attached to a real call (that's possibly been cut or edited for training purposes) than it being a scripted training recording.
15:06 Many people have pointed out that obituaries often lie. However, this specific Ruth Price seems far more likely than any others. Perhaps someone who lives in the area could manage to get a public records request for her death certificate. There is a public interest.
Also if you can find a full listing for this house from 94-97, California law requires that if someone has died in the past three years that fact and the cause must be disclosed. It's a long shot, but if an old listing that says "the previous owner was murdered here" can be found, that's some pretty good proof.
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This is frustrating to me. At the very least, Ruth deserves to have her story told as truthfully as possible. It’s what I would want if someone committed a heinous crime to me.
Many crimes go unknown and unsolved. Forever.
Ruth Mildred Price, of San Diego, CA had an attempted break-in at her home sometime between 1986 and 1992. Her screams were so fearful and shocking that the tape of the interaction she had with a telephone operator was later used unofficially by trainers with 911 call-takers - who spread a sensationalized story that the operator's mistake cost Ruth her life. However, the break-in was either a failed attempt, or Ruth didn't come to harm during it, and she lived on until 1994.
@@ptw9993 I’m so grateful..I wanted to cry hearing that
@@heatherwade2373 Well Modern technology (DNA Analysis) has been biting Criminals asses left and right, the fact a single hair piece or human cell can reveal your entire life is cool but scary to think of
@@ptw9993oh u should be a journalist u write so well
So I can answer this - I was a 911 dispatcher for 3.5 years (first trained in 2019), and this is used by a corporate contractor for emergency services providers as a fake recreation of a real call. It’s explicitly created and used so that we understand that the address is the first, second, and third thing on our minds. It’s not real.
I’ve been posting as much in TH-cam comments for years, as have many others working in my field, and this is common knowledge for us. It still baffles me today that a corporate training demo that made it online is still being asked about. The company definitely got its money’s worth, considering the free promotion.
But yeah. Nothing spooky, just a training exercise leaked as a real thing - like how FEMA’s “zombie response plan” when originally leaked was claimed to be used for real zombies, when really it’s just a training tool for emergency planners to understand the basics.
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I am very much of the opinion that it's a very well acted but ultimately scripted call made for training purposes, or at least a recreation of an existing incident. As many people have pointed out before me, it's a good example of hat not to do as an operator and how crucial it is that they get the address immediately so they can send in someone right away, as if there's a patrolling agent nearby, they could have been on the scene in time, or at least it could have scared the intruder away.
One very strong piece of evidence for this is how clearly you can hear Ruth while she screams. If she'd been attacked, surely she wouldn't have stayed near the receiver. Either she would have fallen or been whisked away. If nothing else, she would have dropped it. Either way, you would have heard it bump on something and you wouldn't be able to hear the victim so clearly. However, it's a VERY effective piece of disturbing audio, which is sure to stick in the mind of trainees, both making them realize that lives are at stake and that if they can't handle hearing people being in extreme situations and possibly dying while on the line, they should quit now.
What you're saying is true, but it doesn't say the call is fake, its that the story we're told about the call is fake.
What will have more impact on people training to be 911 operators? Old lady screams her head off at guy trying to break and enter, drops the phone and runs away to hide, guy is scared off.
Or
Old lady is brutally assaulted and murdered by prowler while still on the phone?
I agree. I think that weird "operator" in the middle of the scream was actually Ruth asking for the operator that was accidentally left into the final edit. Also, the cut-off address was probably another edit. I do think that the Ruth voice call was from a real call but nothing happened to her in real life
Also, the fact that we don't hear anything from the intruder struck me as weird. Often in those calls, you hear the background commotion. He would have to just... Walk in gently to not be heard. You also don't hear any contact or struggle, just her scream. I ultimately think it's fake but based on real life events.
That's not really evidence though. You assume just because you hear her, that it must be somehow fake. Even though it's totally possible to just freeze up with the receiver in your hand. You also make the assumption that she would have been immediately whisked away, when it can be equally as possible that the perp was far away and she just reacted. I've seen so many people (especially older people) just stand there and scream their head off without dropping or doing anything.
To me, her face is also not strictly right next to the phone throughout the entire call either, she sounds further away the more she screams which might mean she put it further away from her or the intruder could have taken the receiver out of her hand and then hung up. Or hit her with it, and then hung up as you can hear some weird bumping. Again, it might not be real, but your interpretation of what is closer to reality doesn't mean it's 'evidence' that it isn't. When freezing and just screaming is just as possible in a real life situation, without it being scripted.
Hello, former 911 dispatcher here. To comment on your second paragraph, that's unfortunately just not how things work out. I have one call that has haunted me to this day, a man was murdered on the other end of the line while talking to me. He was stabbed to death, and I heard everything. I could hear him begging for help, I could hear the knife as the murderer repeatedly stabbed the victim. It was horrible, and there was nothing I could do about it.
Some obituaries will give "died peacefully in their sleep", "after a battle with an illness", or "died from unknown causes" in place of... more grim outcomes.
When my grandfather killed himself, the obituary said he "died peacefully in his sleep" and when my great-grandmother was murdered, the obituary said she died of "unknown causes".
I'm very sorry for your loss :(
@@habib3559 Thank you.
My grandfather passed when I was very little and I only got to meet him once since he wasn't married to my grandmother anymore and he lived out of state.
My great-grandmother passed way before I was born. Fortunately, they know who did it. Unfortunately, the perpetrator was her husband.
That sucks, they’re erasing a part of their history: especially in the latter example. Sometimes the harsh realities of the world need to be known
Yikes. Sorry for your loss.
@@wolfetteplays8894 If it was me that got an unfortunate death. I would wish for there to be at least a vague summary of the death.
Imagine being the disinterested dispatcher in this call. Imagine screwing up so badly that for decades after it was used as an example of what not to do. I wonder if she knew?
Given her reaction I do suspect she wasn't a trained emergency dispatcher, just a regular operator. (Plus the voice in the middle saying "operator") Even if this was in the era of 911, Ruth might have just dialed 0 by habit, since that's what she would have done most of her life.
Modern 911 calls are riddled with operators that sound rude, bored, and disinterested at best. At worst I've heard ones that literally tell the caller to die or shut up. It seems to be a rampant problem these days.
She could have been in training, too. Her Lack of reaction must show that she was immediately shocked about this being a possibility. After all... There was no example like this to be shown to her beforehand, right?
It could've been a 0 operator. We used to call them from payphones to get the time or to patch you through to the police.
I love how deeply you research your stories and give every opportunity to what could be the solution/answer. Great work, sir!
I am with commenter @BC Bradley here. I am a retired police officer and at one point i was assigned to train new dispatchers, I heard this tape in the police academy in 1999. The fact that the operator says "Operator" during the call seems to me to point to an older phone system for reaching police lending to the pre-911 days. 911 officially went online i'm pretty sure in 1969. That year or prior would be conducive when speaking with an operator. or even early days of 911 before call takers were trained well. One thing we may be able to discern from the audio here is that it was likely recorded prior to 1980 when the FCC passed the Federal Standards Act requiring that a half second burst of a tone at 1400hz is made every 15 seconds to make the other party aware that the conversation is being recorded.Some of the language has been changed since then but we still hear it today because it's still law today. It's federal so it applies to all 50 states. This mystery will probably never be solved unless a retired detective comes forward to say this was one of his cases from a long time ago, or an agency claims ownership. It's not all of the story, it may not even be a part of it, but it's something i haven't seen many people consider.
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If the call is not real I think she deserves an academy award. That first scream especially gives me chills.
Why the nerd emoji, this scared me so much
i usually dont get scared of disturbing stuff, but this bypassed my immunity of it.
There is a possibility that “Ruth” in fact wasn’t murdered, and actually died of an illness years later. We simply don’t know the facts from listening to the tape. However, that could explain why the training programs were able to get permission to use the call (in reality it would be pretty macabre to use a murder victim’s last words as an exercise program). The training programs may have gotten a very much alive Ruth’s consent to use the call.
The reason why the 911 trainees got the facts wrong may be because the instructor’s simply didn’t know the background and/or because a fabricated backstory simply would emphasize the utmost gravity of asking for the location before doing anything else.
Just a thought.
Exactly this. I think it's all solved.
The partial address and name lead to a location that matched perfectly down to the apartment in the back, including a dead woman in the right window. Only problem, she died after "a long illness" within 5-6 years of the date of the origin of the tape (expected to be 88 or 89 if it was in use in 1990).
It's simple. She wasn't murdered. What you hear is her being attacked, then the perp hanging up the phone. He then continues brutally attacking her. Think night stalker, a similar criminal with a penchant for older victims.
Elderly woman suffers brutal assault and rape. She survives, but dies a few years later from the lingering effects. "A long illness." Remember this is common with the elderly: even a broken hip frequently leads to quick decline and death in an otherwise healthy person in their later years.
Oh, and all this "permission to use the call" nonsense? Calls to the police are public property. Zero permission involved. They're evidence in criminal cases. It works the other way: the family would need a court order to seal it, and would need to show good evidence why it should be sealed. (Think stuff like the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng torture and rape tapes, those are locked by the courts except for a few small excerpts because of their content.)
But yeah. I think we've got it solved. Ruth Price in San Diego, died 1994. Wasn't murdered directly. However, her death might be ruled a homicide if she died of injuries from the attack even in 1994 making it technically accurate that she was raped and murdered. She just didn't die that night.
This theory makes the most sense and if the tape is old it makes sense that the story of Ruth being killed would be passed down by trainers over the years and would be accepted as truth
@@xdarkridex This is very, very, sad, but I genuinely believe it's the most plausible answer and close to a case solved.
I thought about this when he said that the Ruth Price at that address died of illness a few years later. It's possible a neighbor heard the commotion and took Ruth to the hospital, especially when you hear that voice toward the end saying "operator?" It could have been someone else she shared a line with.
They don't care about the macabre when selecting recordings for 911 calltaker training. Mine for example included several calls from inside the towers on 9/11 from people who did not escape, the full, unedited versions of which are not available to the general public. That is among many others generated both from other centers and locally. The point is to teach you something about a particular situation. If the results were drastic it simply highlights why it is important.
I'm a dispatcher for an alarm monitoring company. Even we have extremely strict rules regarding the handling of calls and how or when we contact actual authorities. I've heard horror stories of mishandled calls resulting in actual deaths. On every call I take, I handle it as if it's a life or death situation, because it very well might be.
You can really tell a difference between a good operator and someone who is slacking. We can be easy to fall into a routine but you have to realize every time someone’s calling you it’s an emergency for them. I think it’s just snowball to try and do this job, but I definitely understand how, even if it’s every once in a blue moon, hearing something like this could make you completely backed away from the profession.
I have heard this several times over the years and while it seems real to me, it almost makes too good of a training tape. Cut off address, she says "I'm an old lady" and then screaming while the operator does absolutely nothing. This could have been a perfect storm of events but I am on the fence of believing if this is real or not.
This video was super well done though, as always! Keep em coming
That's what I'm thinking. Ruth only says like 5 things throughout the call yet unprompted says the things that would get the most sympathy from a listener (I'm and old lady, I live alone). And then the responder not saying anything while she screams.
The operator being completely silent while Ruth is screaming seems way too much like something done for dramatic effect. It's not impossible for real 911 calls to have all these elements (no full address, the caller literally saying 'I'm an old lady', the sound of the struggle being fully audible) but for the stars to align so that all of those things were encompassed within the same couple minutes of audio and then for it to actually become part of a tape used for emergency responder training seems difficult to believe.
@@TheDoctorofOdoIsland exactly, it's the perfect storm which is why it seems fake. The screams were extremely convincing though.
@@RideWithDanger If I had only the audio to go on and no other information about the history of the call, I'd assume it was fake.
Yeah I found it quite strange that the operator said nothing, I've watched a lot of true crime content and usually the operator will try to keep talking like "Ruth? Ruth stay with me, Ruth?" Can any actual 911 or equivalent operators weigh in?
Slightly socialable at 4 am after a nap is the best
Bruh napping at 4am is just called sleeping
"Operator" Is from the person who answered the call, on another phone line, calling the telephone operator, to get a trace on the original call. Back in the day, when you picked up a phone, and said operator, it would take you to the operator.
@SOSA Unknowns voice? It is clearly the same person. It sounds like the same person, and she is doing exactly what you would expect her to do, which is call the operator for a trace. Everyone else seems to understand, why don't you?
That is really old though. I grew up in the 70’s in a very rural area and we dialed 0 for the operator. You could not just say it. You heard a dial tone until you dialed something. I’ve seen old movies from the 30’s or so where they lifted the receiver and said operator but that was before you could dial a number by yourself. A little old lady (think Ruth Buzzi) sat at a switchboard and when you picked up the receiver, your light came on at the swicbord. The operator would plug her headset into your line and ask you who you wanted to call and then she would connect you. I’m not sure when all that changed. But as a little girl we dialed the operator if it was an emergency and asked her to get the police or fire department, she would connect us and we told them what was wrong. After that we had specific emergency numbers to call. One for the police and one for fire until 911 was established.
I looked it up. By the 1930’s most places in the US could place calls without the use of the operator. So she likely dialed 0 to get the operator and was transferred to police or she dialed the police emergency number herself.
I’m involved with 911 calls in my line of work and I can clarify a few things.
The fact that this recording is used for training purposes by 911 centers for new trainees seems legit. I sometimes have to supervise trainees while taking emergency calls and they often “forget” to mention 911 when answering. So the pre-911 portion isn’t viable if the operator forget to mention it in the call.
"have a good night.." yeah, like I'm going to have a good night after watching this. Well done my dude. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for the volume warning. I was watching this video while testing out a new set of wireless earbuds, and so far they've been pretty loud even on the lowest volume setting. I pulled those things out of my ears as fast as possible!
Insofar as the call, I would also lean towards it being real. The fact that multiple dispatchers during the 90s were aquainted with it is really what's doing it for me.
It may not be on the record because in training programs, especially ones from smaller areas, aren't really gonna document every little thing they use. It could have just been particular instructors that liked what the call illustrated to the class, while the lesson plan just said to play a call recording to prove the point.
Hi, I'm also on 911 dispatcher. Something some people are overlooking is there is an element of 911 training where you are shadowed by another dispatcher. During this time, most of these dispatchers have a lot of leeway in how they go about training up their training. For me, I actually did have someone show me this audio file during my shadowing phase of training.
Do you think this is why the random "operator?" is heard?
Thanks for the jumpscare warning. I love creepy content and am fine with screams usually, but this one chills my blood
for the first time in my life i was actually so startled i feel uncomfortable and just teared up very quickly hearing the audio.
i did not expect it to be that disturbing. holy shit.
I've watched gore videos online, but this audio clip will Always send shivers down my skin!
Even if it's a Hoax or Not, what makes this terrifying is that it's horror grounded in grim reality, knowing that that guy could still be alive just makes it haunting
@Epic oh yeah I've heard that before, it's even more scarier than ruth thing
I worked at a police department and my supervisor was once a 911 dispatcher (now an officer)
She shares her one call every year during our citizen's police academy where she was dealing with a child who just watched his father shoot his mother and aunt, and was running down the street as the gunman started firing at officers. Another call comes in during this call for an unresponsive infant--my supervisor's 6-month old daughter.
Dispatchers have one of the toughest jobs ever. It's incredibly sad how many mental health services for first responders ignore dispatchers.
Other channels: Super disturbing, unsolved content. Who was this women! Why was she so disinterested!
Barely: Guess I'll just ask the person who posted it. Oh it's a training video, thank you.
The fact we are probably hearing a real call/reenactment of a real call meant to train First Responders in one of the most horrifying situations and essentially to scare them in to teaching a lesson while also showing them a grim reality of what you will be dealing with is utterly terrifying.
We as a general public we’re never meant to hear this, because we, as a general public, are not signing up for something so… well… visceral.
Sorry for stuffing up your comment section. This video has made me spiral right on waking up.
It’s a good video though.
Just god damn…
This is bleak.
No I agree, it puts into perspective the work a lot of first responders deal with that is often ignored. 911 operators deal with a lot of stuff, prank calls, people calling for non emergency reasons, but the worst is probably hearing stuff like this. No wonder 911 operators often get burned out and suffer mentally themselves.
Comments help the algorithm. Dont feel bad, it helps him
I think it’s most likely a recording created for training purposes as well. Cutting off someone giving their address during a call is something even the least experienced of operators know not to do and it’s likely intentionally being done as a teaching device for new hires
I worked as an emergency call handler in the UK for the 999 service. We were never played any audio from previous emergency calls, we were the first person to take the call from whoever was ringing and we would have to pass them off to the police, fire service, ambulance service or coast guard. It was pretty harrowing, honestly and maybe I would have left sooner if I had been played something like this. Wouldn't recommend it as a job to anyone.
Thank you for putting out the video solving this!
15:00 - But how does death due to an illness disproves this Ruth Price being the one in the call? We don't know she was killed in during the break-in, that is just part of the legend... all we have is the name, phone call and an address. She might have been assaulted but wasn't actually killed during the home invasion and died years later due an illness. The 3877 35th St theory seems solid to me.
EXACTLY. It doesn't suit "Slightly Sociable's" bias - they WANT the call to remain mysterious because that's more interesting. It's already been proven that the Ruth Price of 3877 who died of an illness WAS the Ruth Price in this call. She scared the attacker away and wasn't murdered. There is a reddit thread with links to newspaper articles about this from the time. This "investigator" just wasn't interested in the truth.
Then there would be a case file on it
Thank you for uploading! Can't wait to see more content from you - Paul
I heard this call when I was a criminal justice student years ago, I never questioned its reality or use as a training device. It's kinda creepy, it comes back up every now and then in a different place like this
1:29 this has happened before though. many times because some of them dont care. do you remember that 911 operator berating a woman who got stuck in her car on a flooded road until she eventually drown?
Thank you for not wanting to jump scare me you just earned my sub just by that. Makes me feel safe
I did dispatch training in FL for EMS (shortly before doing EMT training) before moving overseas and I remember hearing this call. Really sticks with you. (which is the point) It's entirely possible this doesn't take place in the US and that's why you don't hear any 911 jargon, but I don't know if I believe that. I personally think this was in the US, from the mid 1960s to early 70s, and likely in a more rural area to boot.
The call itself can't be older than the 60's. Cassettes and 8-tracks didn't become mainstream in use until the early to mid 60's. (they're not invented before the 60s iirc) Before that it was all vinyl and there's no way this came from a vinyl. Call recording started in the early 1900s, but it didn't sound this crisp until much later. Even the mention of an "operator" isn't that odd if this call takes place in the 60s-70s when an "emergency operator" was still a common term. Given this woman would've been a young adult when operators (like legit operators) were still in use she may just be using something familiar to her in an emergency situation.
Why I go with the above timeframe is not only because the tech lines up, but the emergency system at that time hardcore sucked. The more rural your area the worse it got until the 80's and 90's when things started being ironed out. 911 as we know it is a rather modern blessing. (EMS was barely a thing until 1973) Implementations on who to properly answer an emergency call were slow to roll out. I suppose it still could take place in Canada, but no ones speech patterns line up with that theory. (even northern US states sound pretty distinctly different from this)
Tracking who this is from obituaries is going to be virtually impossible. My mom writes those for the newspaper (has since I was a kid) and never once have I seen one where the family mentions the individual was m**dered or r**ed even in high profile cases. That's not something families want to focus on or have on blast for the whole world to see after losing a loved one. It's just... not a good way to track this. You'd need to track it via police records and without knowing where this happened in the first place you've got yourself a good needle in a haystack situation. (and that's if the records aren't lost by this point)
Sorry for the long comment! Great vid as always! Bonne chance!
I was an EMT in Tennessee. We were played this call in our EMT program in 2016. This wasn’t necessarily part of an official statewide training protocol, but we had two former dispatchers in our program who had both heard it during their dispatch training.
It’s possible she survived the attack and died in ‘94. Also have to call 911 a lot for my job and usually hearing “operator” again means they’ve conference called to a another department or operator.
I was training to be a 911 operator in 2018. I also had to listen to this as part of my training, as well as a call where I child was trying to report his mom's boyfriend hurting her before he and the mother were killed by the boyfriend. It's true, dispatchers don't often get to hear how the situations behind the calls play out. Some officers, if they can, will drop by after particularly intense calls and let the dispatcher know the outcome. There are a few, though, where I never learned what happened after the call disconnected, and even years later they haunt me.
I was a dispatcher for 24 years and it sounds real to me. Dispatcher did a crap job. First thing you do is get address and get officers dispatched. I'm thinking maybe this was from a really small department and they weren't good at keeping records properly.
Have I watched videos about the Ruth Price audio before? Yes. Am I still going to watch this one? Absolutely! Anything for this socially inept man
Yeah I was about to say, they literally ask for your address before anything else, either it's not real or the call handler made a huge mistake
Well I mean, it's thought to be a rly old call
@@albigensiac3206 right, that's really interesting!
It's highly probable this isn't a 911 call, but one to a phone operator
I remember hearing this online in the early 2000's and it seemed so real. It's possible it could be a fake and it's something I've thought of before as well, but something about that scream... it's either someone who is genuinely terrified and going through possibly horrific things, or someone really knows how to act.
@13:22 "Florida woman who shot her neighbor for not kissing on her cheek before leaving" was said so causally......
"Christopher?" "No, Christopher is dead" I didn't think anything would top that... I might be incorrect
Plot twist: the operator was the one screaming and Ruth was like: operator?
Phew this is somehow even more scary and makes more sense in the context that was mentioned.
Oh shit this reads like some r/nosleep story
Hah..Jesus..
solid deep dive into this audio ive heard throughout various youtube videos for years. You did the best in covering it for sure so props to you
Depending on how old this is, she might have dealt with actual phone operators in her life. Like REAL phone operators.
The ones who had to make the switches flip to connect calls to other people.
They were called “operators.” It could be a remnant of her past and the stress of the situation had her reverting to it.
Strange, but also fitting for the scenario. It could actualy end up adding authenticity for being such an obscure detail if this isn’t covered.
But the ”operator” is said WHILE she is screaming. It’s someone else.
Operators were not routinely recorded.
The hard part for me is figuring out whether those screams, and the slight squeak/gasp at the end, is the murderer or if it is ruth. The unkown voice saying operator is creepy too. To be honest, this sound clip is going to haunt me. As bad, if not worse, than the screams i heard when i was in a certain type of "hospital"
yeah i was wondering what that squeak at the end was it could be ruth trying to pick back up the phone receiver but failing but that doesn’t make since now we know she wasn’t murdered maybe the person recording this off of the cassate tape accidentally rewinded back to the end of the help me breath and receiver dropping part.
it was solved recently, she survived!
Awesome!!! A new video to a perfect time of the day!! Thank you!
I lean towards this tape being fake, possibly made for the purpose of teaching dispatchers what not to do on a call. Consider the lack of background noise. If this woman is being attacked, why do we only hear her voice? Why can't we hear her attacker moving around?
If she's holding the phone, we should be able to hear the sound of that phone moving around with her as she's attacked. If she's not holding it, it would have to be on speaker in which case we should hear more than just her. It's also possible that she was holding it but dropped it while being attacked, but I can't hear anything that sounds like a phone falling; if it was a corded phone I would expect it to hit the wall, and if it was cordless it should have hit either the floor or whatever hard surface (table, countertop) it was above.
In my opinion if the call is real one of two things must be true: either this is a "cleaned up" version with background noises removed, or it's a recreation. If it's a recreation the name of the caller may have been changed to something common out of respect, which would fit with there also being a censored version.
I see why this makes a good training tape. Not only did the operator cut Ruth off before getting her address, she doesn't even try to keep Ruth on subject. It feels like too perfect of an example of what not to do for it to be a real case. Of course, without a confirmed time frame there's no way to be sure if the operator went against standard practice or not.
I called "fake" as soon as you realize the whole thing plays like it's a script.
It's constantly ramping up the suspense and making dramatic pauses where appropriate.
In addition, during the fight/struggle sequence, what kind of person is being strangled yet thinks it's a good idea to narrate it to the operator instead of using said phone as a weapon or at the very least dropping it and trying to run somewhere you can lock yourself to safety?
It's effective at being a training tape though. It deliberately provokes an anxiety response that good operators must learn to overcome and control.
@@xlixity what do you mean narrated? and it does sound like she drops the receiver in the recording, you hear a bass-y thud and then a click.
@@Blakbox92 There's different versions and BS edited this one for brevity's sake. There's a moment near the end where Ruth exclaims "H-He's chokiiiiiiing meeeeee".
@@xlixity I listened to the longer recording and it's not clear what's said at all, it's just what the uploader thinks is said, or what the transcript they copied from another person claims. I've heard people say "He's stabbing me" "He's choking me" or "help me (to) breathe"... to me it sounds like it also could be "please help me" "please send help! please!" "can/please someone send the police!" "he's getting in help me please!". It's so muffled and distorted that you could read maybe a dozen different phrases out of the audio that would all make sense in the same context.
I don't think she was attacked at all, I think someone tried to break in, and she's panicking as they attempt to break down the door or get into a window.
"If she's holding the phone, we should be able to hear the sound of that phone moving around with her as she's attacked. "
what? what makes you think she was immediately attacked? She could have just be surprised by someone coming in through a window, or trying to open a door and just stood there screaming. She's an old lady after all wtf can she do she most likely was staying put and watching her windows for the man to come back, since she said she heard weird noises out back on some extension of her house. It's likely it fell, since there was also a bassy thump, and the intruder took the phone and hung it up (and yes, sometimes it does just sound like that. For someone making the argument that this is scripted you have some pretty dramatic ideas of how sounds play out in real life)
you also overestimate the amount of noise criminals make and the amount of noises phones can pick up. If someone is yelling or talking, you're not going to hear any background noise. I've heard some of my fair share of 911 calls, one where a woman had an ex trying to pound her door down and you wouldn't have even known if she hadn't told the dispatcher this
It could be before the adoption of "E911" E911 is what populates your name and address when you call into 911.
Thanks dude, I’ve been super sick so this is a welcome distraction ❤️ thorough and excellent work as always
I managed to find a newspaper clipping that described and matched perfectly. The reason for the lack of evidence and documentation is because she didn't die she survived the attack.
It seems too high quality to be a real recording from the pre-911 era. Recording seems too expensive to be likely back then. Even on the off chance that it was recorded, it would mean multiple format changes between the original and finally being made into a digital audio file. Degradation from that process just seems absent in the recording. A staged 911 recording to serve as an example for a training class seems much more likely. Training materials get posted online all the time and if the trainer calls it a real call to add gravitas, all the better. That seems most likely.
Some people have speculated that it's a reenactment of an actual call - the 911 system also took decades to be fully implemented across the US so it's possible it only dates back to the 80s or maybe even 90s.
There is also of course the chance that it was completely staged, altho I'd imagine even if it is staged it was likely based on real calls they'd had.
@@amoureux6502 I can believe it's a reenactment or totally fabricated training call but it hits "worst case scenario" so squarely on the nose I tend to think it's fabricated. "I had a rough morning and interrupted the caller's name and addr-OH NO SHE'S BEING MURDERED WHILE I'M FORCED TO LISTEN AND CARRY THE BURDEN OF MY MISTAKE FOR LIFE!"
@@fixedG That's fair - it also makes we wonder if the audio is spliced together, maybe the part with Ruth was a 411 call or something and the scream was taken from another source. Could explain why the operator just doesn't speak in the second half.
This would raise the question why the sources for each half hadn't been found but with how sensationalized this version is, it's possible no one is looking.
This makes sense to me. I've heard calls from the pre-911 era, and... You can tell. Tape noise, equipment noises all over, and just general very low quality audio.
I'm inclined to agree, the loud rumbling in the background (almost makes it sound like it was recorded in a moving car or something) is distractingly loud yet it's easier to make out words being said on this recording from a pre-Internet phone line (possibly copied an unknown number of generations since it's said to have originally circulated on tape) than it is to make out any of the lyrics in "fond my mind" or "in the wind" which were recorded straight off the FM (I guess?) radio decades ago? Hmm...
Was literally just checking to see if any new sociable videos have dropped and this pops up! Can’t wait for Silk Road Part 2
Im more hyped for that than any upcoming game/movie tbh
same lol, randomly searched up barely and found out he posted this hours ago lol
"one of the most infamous 911 calls on the internet, mostly due to how downright disturbing it is..."
I'm so glad I'm watching this alone with the lights off at midnight!
same, and faded
@@dieusonique924 fuq that
The best theory I've seen is that the call originates from the Ruth Price that lived in San Diego and who died in 1994, the call originates in a pre 9-11 era, and that the content of the call is not the sound of her being murdered but rather the sound of a very scared old woman's reaction to an attempted non-lethal break in. The call likely circulated in pre-9-11 emergency dispatch service training as a result of both the critical error in procedure and the call's dramatic content. Once the call was removed from its original context human imagination went wild and produced the myth of the grisly murder of Ruth Price alongside the actual living Ruth Price.
So I only just realised slightly sociable existed.
I live for barely sociable new clips.
So I just found myself a whole new bundle of joy.
You legend 🙏
Having a good night this morning. Thanks for haunting me in the day time, Barely!
We gotta remember also that the woman didn't necessarily die.. it sounds like she is experiencing something horrific, but he might have just punched her, hung up the phone and run. Yes, she probably would have been followed it up with a call to explain this, but it would also explain why there is no missing person/murder case for Ruth.
Or maybe this is just wishful thinking :/
I think the biggest giveaway for me is that the audio stays pretty constant throughout her screaming. Is she holding the phone up to her head as she's screaming? If somebody attacked her, then it's ridiculous to think the victim would do that and not drop the phone or at least move the hand holding the phone away from their face. Also, for an old lady she has quite the lung capacity, don't you think?
@@martind17331 ooo very true.. she doesn't sound tooooo old tho.. i guess people's definition of old can vary. I know people in their 60s who would be able to scream like this.
People react differently in fight or flight situations. There are any number of things that could have resulted in her reacting like this, and that doesn't have to involve direct violence being done towards her at that moment.
Also, I know that sometimes older people, especially back in the 60's (if that is really when it is from) can sometimes feel embarrassed that they are wasting people's time, so perhaps the guy appeared at her window and she freaked, he bolted cos it was... an absolutely bloodcurdling scream (giving me goosebumps just thinking about it again) and ran, she got embarrassed that she overeacted cos she seems very composed up until then. She may have gone all out with her scream to frighten off the perp.
Idk man.. maybe my brain is just constructing these situations cos I want her to be alright.
@@martind17331 Right, we don't hear anything and the audio sounds way too constant. The operator doesn't even ask if she's okay or what's going on or anything. In the JonBenet Ramsay call you can hear shuffling and background noise as the mother tries to hang up.
@@martind17331 I think the scream is one from fear as the man attempts to break in, not her dying scream or something. The thud is not a body or a blow from the attacker, but of her dropping the receiver. The recording cut out afterwards because:
A) the open endedness makes it better for training
B) the call was handed off to 911 - it seems almost certain that the person who answered was not a 911 dispatcher, perhaps any further recording was lost
C) the line had gone dead or the phone wasn't hung up and there was nothing further recorded
We have to remember that we don't even know if this is the full call, it could have been edited even before being put online.
Thank you for the fair warning when she started screaming. Very professional of you in all seriousness. I've heard this audio before and her scream is spine chilling, especially when you hear it first time. Anyways Thank you good sir!
I am a 911 operator and I am fairly sure we had this call used as one of the many calls we were played while training. Each call usually addressed a main failure in the 911 system and were used as examples of why certain rules were required. The agency that trained my center was the IAED (International Academy of Emergency Dispatch).
Watched about 10 videos before subscribing. All were excellent. Well done.
As I was hearing this and reading some comments I thought of a few things:
It could be a reenactment of an emergency call transcript. This would explain why the audio is of high quality when it is supposedly copied from tape to tape. It's also a bit too drastic which is perfect for training 911 operators.
It could be a real call and the emergency operator got so scared they stepped away from the phone. This operator could have called either their supervisor or another emergency operator (hence the random "operator" in the middle of the recording). Since the situation was too much they could have stepped away since they couldn't handle it, thus the silence.
Another idea is that Ruth Price could have never been identified when they found her or they never found her at all. Since she never gave her address the police could have located her body but never identified it as Ruth Price, thus declaring her as Jane Doe. Or it could be that she was never found and thus was placed as a missing person case.
This one recording is the reason I always start an emergency call with my location. Based on the way Ruth talks, I don't think it's scripted, and fabricating it would probably cost a lot more than just using an actual recorded phone call. I do hope one day we'll know more.
I was trained to dial and immediately say "I need (police/ambulance/fire) at (address)" and go from there
the way you phrase this makes it seem like you've gone through several emergency calls throughout your life, unless you actually have, then, i guess it makes sense
@@johnnyfrankenstein0123 Just a few, mostly for other people, but yes my opening line every time has been my location. "I'm on interstate x near exit y and there's a large object in the middle of a lane" "I'm at x address and someone is outside yelling to call the police" etc - maybe my life isn't in immediate danger but it's something I learned specifically from this story.
The one day I didn't get much sleep this week is the day your video comes out! I am forever grateful!
Thank you for warning us headphone users about the scream and possible jump scare. I really appreciate that, thank you!
Keep up the great work!!!
for real.. I instantly dragged the volume bar slightly to the left when he said that, as I live with parents sleeping after 12am
Finally, been a minute bro!
Such a nice song to end with. Thank you for the content.
When I first heard it years ago I assumed it was fake because the dispatcher was just... so bad. She was disinterested, cut the caller off, didn't ask for an address, says nothing while the woman screams. I've both called 911 enough times in my life, and heard enough 911 calls, to know that dispatchers ask for location repeatedly if it's not given right away. It's a priority. Then I saw the claim it was pre-911, and so then I wasn't so sure. Policy and procedure has changed so much over time as a result of the things we've learned. If it was a training video, it could be real or staged and the people using it might not even know themselves. I think until we find some evidence like an article describing the crime itself that we'll not be able to say one way or another.
To be fair there are so many stories out there of 911 operators who just hang up on the caller.
@@liyre4189 Very true, and operators are human and make mistakes. But the recordings I've heard of that still have some traces of standardized training, which is why I feel if this is real, it'd have to be before all that got implemented.
“I don’t wanna jumpscare you”
_still gets scared_
😭💯
I also heard that this is basically a 911 training call. What not to do when fielding those calls. I also heard that Ruth was okay and did not perish during the incident.
I’ve never been able to shake the feeling that this audio was a stinger for a movie.
The clarity of the audio, the interruption on a pause, the silence during the scream, the lack of “disruptive” noises during the ending. It’s always felt very strange
What I was thinking
Stinger?
@@kenny.m.olsen95 post credits scene