@@disndat1000 well, I’m glad I haven’t started this project yet. I’ll definitely be looking at different options. I’m not all about saving money to jeopardize quality, but it is always a cognitive thought. If you have different ideas or suggestions, please let me know so I don’t go down the wrong road. Thanks for the advice.
This is a very well made and informative video. With all due respect to the others I've seen out there, I like your design and explanations of even what you didn't like about your first tries. I am re-evaluating my design after a lack of pressure at the fountainhead.
@@brianbrown600 Thanks for the comment. The food grade barrel comment was due to that some of these barrels are used for chemical transport, and you don't want that in your pond. Most of the time they people that are selling those blue barrels will know what was stored in them prior. Best of luck on your fountain.
@@y2kok I have a question. How did you fasten the 5 gallon bucket to the barrel bottom? All I see in the video is the spray foam filling the void between them.
@@brianbrown600 The spray foam is what binds them. Because we had holes all the way up the green bucket, there was some foam that went into the inside. This makes sure the foam will not slip off of the green bucket, and the pump isn't going to sink into the pond.
@@y2kok My fountain is complete and operational for about a week now. I used two cans of the pond foam sold at my local Home Depot. It was not the Great Stuff brand and the cans emptied faster than I have ever seen with the other foams I have used. Good thing that before I foamed the bottom, I drilled small holes in 3 spots about 3/4" from the edge of the hole in the center of the barrel bottom and made "U" shaped staples from clothes hanger metal. I ran them through the holes and holes to match about 1/2" from the top edge of the bucket. I them twisted them with vice grip pliers in the area that received the foam. When the foam cured, it did finally expand to just cover the bucket ridge and solidify it but I wouldn't want to trust just that foam to hold a running pump forever. The 2 cans of foam keeps my fountain top floating at about 2" above the surface with the fountainhead sticking up another 3". Your video was super helpful as I completely changed course from my original plans and quickly ended up with a fountain I am proud to show off!
Wow your an answer to prayer, we have three springs that are on the property that float to a pond we’re going to build, but you showed do you have any suggestions to make the lighting so the lights can be on the fountain and create a more beautiful look thank you so much for your insight and teaching.
Honestly, I did not mess with lighting as there would be another electrical connection to worry about. I have seen people use solar lights as an option, but I don't know how well or long those would work for. Best of luck and be safe.
One thing to mention, most sump pumps are only rated for an hour or less. If they run any longer than the specified time they will fail. So before you buy a sump pump, check how long it is rated to run for.
This is a good comment. They will fail eventually, and the point of this was to make a cheaper fountain. There are certainly better pumps that could be purchased.
Water garden pumps are absolutely more suitable for the purpose. Sump pumps are great at pumping a lot of water in a short time but will not last long if kept turned on all the time. Water garden pumps cost more bust last a decade or more in continuous function (if you keep them clean)
This is an awesome video - I am planning on using almost exactly your design for my pond. That said, there are so many details that would be useful! Where did you find a 40 gallon bucket? I'm seeing them for $100, which blows the budget open with a $125 sump pump. Not complaining, just wondering how you managed to find those materials at wholesale-ish cost. Any info on materials (other than sump / great stuff / bucket which are easy) would be very helpful!
Thanks for watching. There are a couple of places that sell the 40 gallon buckets used around me. There is probably some retired guy near you that is selling burn barrels, and I bet they sell these as well. Look on Craigslist or FB marketplace for burn barrels, and see if they also sell these. Great stuff is going to cost what it costs. HD or Lowes is your best bet. On another note, if you don't have a sump pump already then check out the "submersible pond water pumps" or "waterfall pumps" on Amazon. That is the type that professionals use. just make sure the GPH is high enough and the dimensions of the pump will fit in the bucket. If I were to build another then I would use one of these. Good luck and stay safe. Electricity and water don't mix.
Would it not work better for circulating the water if the pump was drawing water from lower level. My pond is about 12 ft deep and I was hoping to get the pump around eight feet deep in the water. Would the pumping lower help with the algae growth?
If you can put the pump deeper, then yes, that would be better for getting oxygen in that water. I would recommend a different style of pump. Look for one that has a good head rating, and that is meant to run constantly. If I were to build one of these again, I would do something like a pond pump that some use for waterwalls. Just get the largest that they make. Good luck
Unless that particular type forms very rigid and firm foam when cured, it's absolutely open cell - just like all the other pond foams I've tried. I switched to black RV foam, simply for the color, but definitely saves. What you have to understand with all pond foams, it's NOT for water sealing. It's to reduce flow so you can guide more where you want it, which is usually over your falls not behind the rock. The cheap yellow stuff would have been fine for this since it's hidden anyway.
This idea worked except after 2 days the fountain began to sink because the foam does end up holding water. I just needed up putting a partially aired up floaty to keep it above the water where it needs to be.
The area that I live in is around $0.10 - $0.11 per kwh and I think it is about $15 - $20 per month. To get a true estimate it, I would have to put a monitor on it. Sorry I don't have a better estimate.
Are you talking about extension cord? It shouldn't matter the brand. As long as you keep the ends out of the water you should be good. Don't go cheap on the cord though. Make sure you can use it outside. UV can do a number on them. That said, my pond is only about 6ft deep at max, and if yours is deeper there could be significantly more hydraulic pressure on it.
@@y2kok thanks! I actually was asking about the cord plug connector/cover. I saw some reviews on Amazon they always get water inside the cover. so a little concern.
cool video, i just bought a house with a 3 ac pond. first thing i would like to do is add a fountain. really good ideas in the video. thanks for making it. I had an idea of pounding a pole in to the pond bottom (maybe galvanized or even wood ) and welding a platform to anchor pump onto then you would have a fixed location for the fountain without having to make a floating device. do you guys see any issues with this other than not be able to move and depth of anchoring pole in the bottom?
Do not put a hole in the bottom of your pond. You might get lucky and have it not cause any issues, but you could cause a leak that would be very difficult to fix. You could make a platform to sit on the bottom of the pond, but I would still prefer a floating option. Also, if you have a three acre pond, then you may want to go the commercial route. This will make for a much larger fountain that will look correct for the size of your pond. Best of luck.
@@y2kok okay thanks for the reply. I made a decent fountain already from a 1/2hp sump and a fountain head from Amazon(works/ looks really good) but i tested over the weekend and definitely isn’t big enough. I’m gonna try the platform you mentioned with the one i made, maybe keep close to wading area and go maybe commercial for the rest. Sometimes things are worth buying. Thanks again.
Helpful to know once you get your holes like you want them when you make your cat you transfer the edge of your whole movie with some like grit sandpaper or razor blade it will make your streams much cleaner even the smallest imperfection in the air that the water flows off of will change the look of the fountain even holes drilled with a drillbit tamper both side and it is a very different look much cleaner more professional looking fountain just food for thought
This is great! Thanks for doing this! Just a question, could I use a 55 gallon barrel instead of a 40 gallon? I can't seem to find any in my area. Thanks again
Not a problem, and thanks for watching. Yes, you absolutely could use a 55 gallon barrel. That is what I almost used, but the 40 was cheaper. Best of luck to you on your build!
Hey Axel, The blue barrel is actually just sitting on to of the green barrel. The foam is attached to the green bucket because of the holes that are drilled into the green bucket. The foam goes into the holes, and doesn't move. The pump just sits inside the green bucket. There really isn't anything to see from that aspect. The sting at the top is what holds the pump in place. Just let me know if that doesn't make sense.
They aren't really designed for running 24/7, but I have seen other videos of people getting over two years out of them running that way. However, I run mine for at least 12 - 14 hours a day, and sometimes leave it on for several days straight (out of laziness). No issues yet.
@@johnskrabak716 I can't really say how much it will change the look of the spray. I am getting ready to 3d print one, so it will be perfect, and I can let you know how that turns out.
my understanding though, is this will not circulate the unoxygenated colder water at the bottom of the pond, it will only circulate the water that already has oxygen. it will look nice, but won't help keep a pond from developing algae, but maybe that was what you were going for anyway.
Yes and no. My pond is only 6 ft deep max, and the main point of the fountain was to move water. That is something it does. Sure I could move more water with other methods, but this was a cheap DIY.
Justin you could always add an extension pipe to the sump pump with some type of mesh barrier around the end so that you draw water from deeper in the pond.
I normally run it from 9AM until about 9PM. If I were to do it again, I would buy an actual oilless pond pump that people use for this type of application. However, the pump is still going.
Yes, the cord sits on the bottom of the pond. The pump only has a 6 foot cord so you will need to use an extension cord. Make sure you use that cord protector that I showed in the video.
Hi. I really like your project. I have water well about 6’ deep and I want make like water rain effect over. I wanna put solar water pump. Any recommendations?
great work for self-making and saving money. I have a question, did the $120 pump survive from nonstop working? usually this kind of economic pumps are not designed for continuous pumping but like a sump pump. I'm also seeeking to self making pond pumping system, but I want it endure.... don't have to redo... thank you
Hello Helen, I am on my second pump now. Both pumps were used in previous applications, and the reason that I used this type is because I had them already. You are correct that they are not rated to be continually used. When my next one goes out I will buy this type of pump: www.amazon.com/dp/B07FJZ55Y9/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
@@y2kok did you install this pump? if so how did it work ? thanks for this video I have a 25,000,000 gallon pond and a 60,000,000 gallon pond - goal is aeration to reduce algae and increase oxygen.
@@mainmacman9695 Yes, this one ran for over two years. Worked well until the pump failed. I am working on another design now. I would use a pump meant for continuous running like something for a waterfall.
You might need a couple of fountains for that size of pond. Overall, it did a good job of moving water, but I don't know if that is the answer for a lot of algae in your pond. You should look into Tilapia.
My pond is 12 to 15 ft deep. I am thinking I could extend a couple of 2 in pipes down to pull water from closer to the bottom. Wouldnt want anything bigger that could pull up trash or fish. As long as there is enough inflow to keep the bucket full this should work, Right? any suggestions?
Water is going to flow into the bucket from any opening. You are going to need more than one 2" hole in the bucket to keep the pump from cavitating though. I do like the idea of moving water from lower to the top. Might be better if you had a couple of tubes running down there. Let me know what you decide to do. Sounds like a good idea.
A larger hp pump is going to move more water, but if you want the stream to go higher then use smaller holes in the cap. However, keep in mind the higher the water goes the more water evaporation you will have.
Why did you cut such a big hole on the food grade barrel the size of the bucket hole? Is that to have access to the pump and to clean it out if needed?
Depending on pond size, if you don't have a boat, kayak, etc., you might could run long enough string or rope so that you could walk around to opposite side and drag it to the middle. I would try to get it in the water first as far as possible, maybe using waders, so that it's already floating before you start pulling. Once the depth exceeds the length of the anchors, the drag should ease up.
Do you have any thoughts about doing this using the overflow from my artesian well instead of a pump? My well overflow is about 15 gpm from a 2" pvc pipe. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Hey Erin, I'll try to put it together this week. I don't know if I have all of the footage that I need, but I'll try to get it out to you. Thanks for watching.
How long is the chord on your pump? My pump only has about a 10foot chord and I cant find any extension chord connecters that are rating for being submerged in water
It is maybe 6 ft long. The extension cord I used wasn't rated specifically for it, but it worked. I don't know if there are cords specifically made for it or not. Just make sure to use a gfi in case of a short. Don't mess around with water and electricity, and keep the connections out of the water.
@@y2kok "Keep the connections out of the water"... How? If the pump cord is only 6' long, then you need to use the extension cord cover and that will be submerged in the water, right? Am I missing something here?
Hey Anthony, I just looked and you are correct, pumps are expensive. When I made this video I could get a sump for around $100 - $125. Prices have really gone up. I would look on Facebook Marketplace for a gently used one, or I am also trying to work out a deal with a company that sells pumps. If I can get that to work out then I will post the link here, and it should be a little bit cheaper.
I built a fountain using this method but I've burnt up 2 separate submersible pumps so far and can't figure out why? The first pump lasted about 8 months and the 2nd lasted less than a month. These are quality 1/2 hp pumps with steel impellers. I know they aren't being starved of water. I think the issue is electrical because the GFCI breaker is being tripped when they go out. Very frustrated.
You might want to try a different style of pump. I am only on my second and they are still going strong. How often are you cleaning the intake? If it gets clogged then it will burn up the pump. Also, it makes sense that your gfci is tripped when the pump goes bad. Mine did the same thing. I would try this style of pump. This will be the next style that I buy. It will have lower GPH than the sump, but is rated for continuous use. www.amazon.com/dp/B07FJZ55Y9/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
@@y2kok thanks. Do you feel I really need that 9k GPH 620W size pump? Where do you see that it claims to be rated for continuous use? Update: please look at the Amazon reviews of the pump you shared. Not very impressive in terms of longevity 🤨
@y2kok @trinityacreshomestead4147 I think I'd prefer a minumum 3/4 hp as well. 660 watts would be great, (1hp=746w). The one you recommend also has overload protection. But IMO I'd pay a little extra for a better model. Remember, GFCI ONLY protects from ground fault, NOT an overcurrent/overload condition. Must keep filter clean (possible cause or subpar motor quality). If the pump failed it had already been running at higher amps, motor windings heated and fused, etc. If really wanted to protect from overcurrent/overload, as an added protection put an inline fuse holder and fuse in a larger 4" receptacle box with the GFCI (maybe 8-10 amps).
There are several people that sell those around me. A 50 gallon would work just fine, and that might be easier to find. Check FB marketplace or craigslist. I am sure there will be people around you selling them.
It is listed in the video, but the pump is a 1/2 hp sump pump. Brand doesn't matter, but I used a Flowtec Floodmate 6000. I am pretty sure they don't make that model any longer, but a 1/2 hp pump will work nicely.
@@y2kok had a go-kart tire inner tube in the garage. Put it up to 8lbs and put it in the case I made. Holds it up and I have a nice fountain now. Thanks for the inspiration.
The pump is no longer made. If you are starting from the beginning then I would buy a pump that is made from continuous use. Maybe try something like this: www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFXXRCT/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
Yes, you could make a singular hole in the center and it would go quite high. However, that is going to lead to a lot more evaporation, and that is why a lot of people don't use that spray pattern.
Use a cable that is rated for water use. The connection is not in the water, and sits on top of the fountain in my setup. Would be best practice to have a pump with a cable that is long enough to make it to shore. That said, having this on a GFI is pretty critical.
@@y2kok I think that’s where some of the confusion comes in. I didn’t notice in the video where you said to make the extension cord attachment inside the bucket. I also visualized it being underwater with that little protector, being the only thing holding the water out.
I have a small boat that I use. Otherwise, I could walk out there as my pond is only about 6 feet deep at most, but that would be significantly more difficult.
The oil used in fountain motors are not made of harmful oil. It is basically cooking oil. I’ve worked on them for many years and torn many of them apart.
That is what I used the rope and cinder blocks for. Place one and each side for the fountain, make sure the rope is tight, and it will hold the fountain in place.
I am trying to find a place to get a plastic barrell any options? I am looking into making one that uses solar, lot more youtube videos to watch but good stuff so far!
There are several small businesses or individuals that sell them around me. I would check FB marketplace or Craigslist to try and find some local. Otherwise, if you have to buy one new it is going to be over $100. Good luck
@@workhardplayhard3206 If you are buying another pump then buy one that is made for continuous use. I used the sump because I had it. They cost about the same price, but the continuous use pump will be more efficient.
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You did a wonderful job! Thanks this video helps a lot of pond owners
You're very welcome!
I am now going to attempt this myself. It is officially on the DIY list for my pond.
Best of luck!
This is exactly what I was looking for to help me fix my issue without spending too much money. Thank you for the information.
Glad to help
@@disndat1000 ok? Why?
@@disndat1000 well, I’m glad I haven’t started this project yet. I’ll definitely be looking at different options. I’m not all about saving money to jeopardize quality, but it is always a cognitive thought. If you have different ideas or suggestions, please let me know so I don’t go down the wrong road. Thanks for the advice.
Best DIY water fountain I’ve see.
Appreciate it. Best of luck.
This is a very well made and informative video. With all due respect to the others I've seen out there, I like your design and explanations of even what you didn't like about your first tries. I am re-evaluating my design after a lack of pressure at the fountainhead.
Any particular reason for specifying the barrel being "food grade"?
@@brianbrown600 Thanks for the comment. The food grade barrel comment was due to that some of these barrels are used for chemical transport, and you don't want that in your pond.
Most of the time they people that are selling those blue barrels will know what was stored in them prior.
Best of luck on your fountain.
@@y2kok I have a question. How did you fasten the 5 gallon bucket to the barrel bottom? All I see in the video is the spray foam filling the void between them.
@@brianbrown600 The spray foam is what binds them. Because we had holes all the way up the green bucket, there was some foam that went into the inside. This makes sure the foam will not slip off of the green bucket, and the pump isn't going to sink into the pond.
@@y2kok My fountain is complete and operational for about a week now. I used two cans of the pond foam sold at my local Home Depot. It was not the Great Stuff brand and the cans emptied faster than I have ever seen with the other foams I have used. Good thing that before I foamed the bottom, I drilled small holes in 3 spots about 3/4" from the edge of the hole in the center of the barrel bottom and made "U" shaped staples from clothes hanger metal. I ran them through the holes and holes to match about 1/2" from the top edge of the bucket. I them twisted them with vice grip pliers in the area that received the foam. When the foam cured, it did finally expand to just cover the bucket ridge and solidify it but I wouldn't want to trust just that foam to hold a running pump forever. The 2 cans of foam keeps my fountain top floating at about 2" above the surface with the fountainhead sticking up another 3". Your video was super helpful as I completely changed course from my original plans and quickly ended up with a fountain I am proud to show off!
Wow your an answer to prayer, we have three springs that are on the property that float to a pond we’re going to build, but you showed do you have any suggestions to make the lighting so the lights can be on the fountain and create a more beautiful look thank you so much for your insight and teaching.
Honestly, I did not mess with lighting as there would be another electrical connection to worry about. I have seen people use solar lights as an option, but I don't know how well or long those would work for. Best of luck and be safe.
Wow... !!! My best friend, Great Good... !!! I wish you every day of your development.
Didn’t give up and ended up great
We just made ours this weekend and we are going to build another. We love it! Thank you for this video!!
I want to come watch! LOL
Glad it worked out for you!
One thing to mention, most sump pumps are only rated for an hour or less. If they run any longer than the specified time they will fail. So before you buy a sump pump, check how long it is rated to run for.
This is a good comment. They will fail eventually, and the point of this was to make a cheaper fountain. There are certainly better pumps that could be purchased.
@@y2kok A water garden pump is for continuous running at a lower cost and no oil in the pump.
Of course a water garden pump is more cost but would be well worth it. My pump ($150.00)in my pond is 9 years old and just had to replace this year.
@@betsyfincher9859 Fair points.
Water garden pumps are absolutely more suitable for the purpose. Sump pumps are great at pumping a lot of water in a short time but will not last long if kept turned on all the time. Water garden pumps cost more bust last a decade or more in continuous function (if you keep them clean)
I wish we could have seen you put it all together, but great video
If there are any questions that you have, then please let me know.
I need to do this!! Just bought a house with a farm pond on it
It is pretty easy to do, and makes a big difference in the water. Mine has been running for a couple of months now, and the water looks great.
This is an awesome video - I am planning on using almost exactly your design for my pond.
That said, there are so many details that would be useful! Where did you find a 40 gallon bucket? I'm seeing them for $100, which blows the budget open with a $125 sump pump. Not complaining, just wondering how you managed to find those materials at wholesale-ish cost.
Any info on materials (other than sump / great stuff / bucket which are easy) would be very helpful!
Thanks for watching. There are a couple of places that sell the 40 gallon buckets used around me. There is probably some retired guy near you that is selling burn barrels, and I bet they sell these as well. Look on Craigslist or FB marketplace for burn barrels, and see if they also sell these.
Great stuff is going to cost what it costs. HD or Lowes is your best bet.
On another note, if you don't have a sump pump already then check out the "submersible pond water pumps" or "waterfall pumps" on Amazon. That is the type that professionals use. just make sure the GPH is high enough and the dimensions of the pump will fit in the bucket. If I were to build another then I would use one of these.
Good luck and stay safe. Electricity and water don't mix.
Thank you for making this video! I’m in the process of making one for my pond and you answered a few questions I had so thank you again!
Glad to help. Best of luck!
How did yours turn out @Bobby?
Do you have a visual of everything assembled but not submerged?
I am going to give this a try.
I am going to put this in the pond in a week or so. Before I do, I will take a short video of it and post it.
Would it not work better for circulating the water if the pump was drawing water from lower level. My pond is about 12 ft deep and I was hoping to get the pump around eight feet deep in the water. Would the pumping lower help with the algae growth?
If you can put the pump deeper, then yes, that would be better for getting oxygen in that water. I would recommend a different style of pump. Look for one that has a good head rating, and that is meant to run constantly. If I were to build one of these again, I would do something like a pond pump that some use for waterwalls. Just get the largest that they make.
Good luck
Excellent job 👍
I’m so glad to see you used your ear protection during foam application.
Did you ever consider pool noodles rather than expensive foam?
lol.
@MorkieMom You could try it out.
Unless that particular type forms very rigid and firm foam when cured, it's absolutely open cell - just like all the other pond foams I've tried. I switched to black RV foam, simply for the color, but definitely saves. What you have to understand with all pond foams, it's NOT for water sealing. It's to reduce flow so you can guide more where you want it, which is usually over your falls not behind the rock.
The cheap yellow stuff would have been fine for this since it's hidden anyway.
I tried a pool noodle and it shrank up and quit working after a couple days. Use styrofoam or a floaty with air
Very good sir!
Thanks
Is your water naturally a teal color? So pretty. Fun video. Thank you.
No, that is pond dye. Thanks for watching!
This idea worked except after 2 days the fountain began to sink because the foam does end up holding water. I just needed up putting a partially aired up floaty to keep it above the water where it needs to be.
Did you use closed cell foam? If you used open cell it will not work.
You omitted to show how to install the pump. And it would have been nice to know the model or part number of the pump as well
Nice work! I have 2 ponds that i need fountains for. Do you know what the cost to run it 12-14 hours is?
The area that I live in is around $0.10 - $0.11 per kwh and I think it is about $15 - $20 per month. To get a true estimate it, I would have to put a monitor on it. Sorry I don't have a better estimate.
that's when you just pop a solar panel on your pond-side gazebo ;)
Very good vid! How water tight of the cord cover? I always worry about the water get into the cover. What model is that?
Are you talking about extension cord? It shouldn't matter the brand. As long as you keep the ends out of the water you should be good. Don't go cheap on the cord though. Make sure you can use it outside. UV can do a number on them.
That said, my pond is only about 6ft deep at max, and if yours is deeper there could be significantly more hydraulic pressure on it.
@@y2kok thanks! I actually was asking about the cord plug connector/cover. I saw some reviews on Amazon they always get water inside the cover. so a little concern.
@@y2kok you DID NOT answer his question. He stated it plain and simple and you still fucked up your answer
heat shrink tubing is what we used
You could always use a bit of silicone to make a seal around your connection then put cover over it.
cool video, i just bought a house with a 3 ac pond. first thing i would like to do is add a fountain. really good ideas in the video. thanks for making it. I had an idea of pounding a pole in to the pond bottom (maybe galvanized or even wood ) and welding a platform to anchor pump onto then you would have a fixed location for the fountain without having to make a floating device. do you guys see any issues with this other than not be able to move and depth of anchoring pole in the bottom?
Do not put a hole in the bottom of your pond. You might get lucky and have it not cause any issues, but you could cause a leak that would be very difficult to fix. You could make a platform to sit on the bottom of the pond, but I would still prefer a floating option. Also, if you have a three acre pond, then you may want to go the commercial route. This will make for a much larger fountain that will look correct for the size of your pond. Best of luck.
@@y2kok okay thanks for the reply. I made a decent fountain already from a 1/2hp sump and a fountain head from Amazon(works/ looks really good) but i tested over the weekend and definitely isn’t big enough. I’m gonna try the platform you mentioned with the one i made, maybe keep close to wading area and go maybe commercial for the rest. Sometimes things are worth buying. Thanks again.
Helpful to know once you get your holes like you want them when you make your cat you transfer the edge of your whole movie with some like grit sandpaper or razor blade it will make your streams much cleaner even the smallest imperfection in the air that the water flows off of will change the look of the fountain even holes drilled with a drillbit tamper both side and it is a very different look much cleaner more professional looking fountain just food for thought
That is a fair point. This year I plan on 3d printing a new top to see how much of a difference it will make.
This is great! Thanks for doing this! Just a question, could I use a 55 gallon barrel instead of a 40 gallon? I can't seem to find any in my area. Thanks again
Not a problem, and thanks for watching. Yes, you absolutely could use a 55 gallon barrel. That is what I almost used, but the 40 was cheaper.
Best of luck to you on your build!
I used a 55 gallon for my fountain. It looks perfect and with 2 cans of foam sealant it floats nice and level about 2" above the water surface.
@@brianbrown600 Good deal!
Great video. Please post parts link.
I don't have the links for the parts or I would. I bought them locally.
Thank you we needed this!
Good luck!
Thank you so much! Great video!!!!!
Thanks for the feedback!
How the blue barrel hold the green ? The foam did it? It will be perfect see the part when you put the pump inside the green can.
Hey Axel, The blue barrel is actually just sitting on to of the green barrel. The foam is attached to the green bucket because of the holes that are drilled into the green bucket. The foam goes into the holes, and doesn't move.
The pump just sits inside the green bucket. There really isn't anything to see from that aspect. The sting at the top is what holds the pump in place.
Just let me know if that doesn't make sense.
could you run one of this pumps continuously (24/7) , if so, how long do you think it will last before breaking?
They aren't really designed for running 24/7, but I have seen other videos of people getting over two years out of them running that way. However, I run mine for at least 12 - 14 hours a day, and sometimes leave it on for several days straight (out of laziness). No issues yet.
@@y2kok 2 years of 24/7 run it's pretty good. Thanks!!
@@Carlos-zn7lv Best of luck to you on your build.
Fantastic idea. Thanks
You’re welcome 😊
Awesome video! I’m definitely going to attempt this week.
Is there a reason for the 3” cap instead of 2inch?
Good luck! I could get more water out of the 3" cap since the holes were larger.
How important is to make a perfectly smooth/straight nozzle head?
The nozzle head I drilled looks awfully sloppy/rough.
@@johnskrabak716 I can't really say how much it will change the look of the spray. I am getting ready to 3d print one, so it will be perfect, and I can let you know how that turns out.
@@y2kok yes please do share results of your 3D printed version. Maybe you could sell me one if mine is bad. ;)
@@y2kok maybe I missed it in the video but did you drill any holes in the bottom of the bucket or just the sides?
my understanding though, is this will not circulate the unoxygenated colder water at the bottom of the pond, it will only circulate the water that already has oxygen. it will look nice, but won't help keep a pond from developing algae, but maybe that was what you were going for anyway.
Yes and no. My pond is only 6 ft deep max, and the main point of the fountain was to move water. That is something it does. Sure I could move more water with other methods, but this was a cheap DIY.
Justin you could always add an extension pipe to the sump pump with some type of mesh barrier around the end so that you draw water from deeper in the pond.
I’m looking at doing this however I’d like to use solar panels to run. It’d be ok if it only run when sun is shining.
Best of luck to you.
Wow! This works great! Thank you!
Glad it helped. Best of luck
Very impressed
Thanks!
May I ask how you secured the cement blocks to the blue barrel?
I actually took them out after a while. Didn't really need them after removing the extra foam.
looks great
Thanks!
I did the same type of thing but used a very hot 🔥 piece of metal to melt the cut instead of dremmel
That is also an option!
Very nice great video ❤️ can these be install on a swimming pool ? Thank you in advance.
I mean, it moves water, but I don't think I would put it in a pool. Not sure I would want this in a pool as you are going to see all of it.
Great video, how did you secure the bucket the pump sits in to the barrel?
Sorry if that’s a dumb question or I missed it
Actually, it is the part that floats. I need to make a short video showing that part a little better.
Do you run the pump all the time ? And if you do has it burned up yet ? Thanks
I normally run it from 9AM until about 9PM. If I were to do it again, I would buy an actual oilless pond pump that people use for this type of application. However, the pump is still going.
How are the cords ran. Is it just a sub pump cord in the water or is the Extension cord also in the water.
Yes, the cord sits on the bottom of the pond. The pump only has a 6 foot cord so you will need to use an extension cord. Make sure you use that cord protector that I showed in the video.
Will they system work in salt water?
That is going to depend on your pump. Anything will work for a time, but salt water is going to destroy it quicker.
Hi. I really like your project. I have water well about 6’ deep and I want make like water rain effect over. I wanna put solar water pump. Any recommendations?
Sorry, I don't. Best of luck.
brilliant. thank you
great work for self-making and saving money. I have a question, did the $120 pump survive from nonstop working? usually this kind of economic pumps are not designed for continuous pumping but like a sump pump. I'm also seeeking to self making pond pumping system, but I want it endure.... don't have to redo... thank you
Hello Helen,
I am on my second pump now. Both pumps were used in previous applications, and the reason that I used this type is because I had them already.
You are correct that they are not rated to be continually used. When my next one goes out I will buy this type of pump:
www.amazon.com/dp/B07FJZ55Y9/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
@@y2kok did you install this pump? if so how did it work ? thanks for this video I have a 25,000,000 gallon pond and a 60,000,000 gallon pond - goal is aeration to reduce algae and increase oxygen.
@@mainmacman9695 Yes, this one ran for over two years. Worked well until the pump failed. I am working on another design now. I would use a pump meant for continuous running like something for a waterfall.
How well did it do to get rid of your algae? What size high flow pond pump would you recommend for 1.5 acre pond
You might need a couple of fountains for that size of pond.
Overall, it did a good job of moving water, but I don't know if that is the answer for a lot of algae in your pond. You should look into Tilapia.
How is everybody getting electric to these pumps under water ?
Use a water rated cord, and there is no issue. This is the same thing that they use for a commercial fountain.
Good job man
Thanks!
My pond is 12 to 15 ft deep. I am thinking I could extend a couple of 2 in pipes down to pull water from closer to the bottom. Wouldnt want anything bigger that could pull up trash or fish. As long as there is enough inflow to keep the bucket full this should work, Right? any suggestions?
Water is going to flow into the bucket from any opening. You are going to need more than one 2" hole in the bucket to keep the pump from cavitating though.
I do like the idea of moving water from lower to the top. Might be better if you had a couple of tubes running down there.
Let me know what you decide to do. Sounds like a good idea.
What would recommend for having a higher fountain. Just a bigger pump?
A larger hp pump is going to move more water, but if you want the stream to go higher then use smaller holes in the cap. However, keep in mind the higher the water goes the more water evaporation you will have.
Need to show how the bucket and barrel work and pump installs tku
The bucket sits inside of the barrel and the foam locks them together. The pump just sits inside of the bucket.
Why did you cut such a big hole on the food grade barrel the size of the bucket hole? Is that to have access to the pump and to clean it out if needed?
Nvm I rewatches the video a few times and answered my question lol
Haha, glad you figured it out. You are going to need to clean the pump, and you will know when. It will be obvious that the flow has slowed down.
@@y2kok They do sell pump filter bags to go around your pump so no debris gets in . Any water garden site should have it. Around $14
I'm going to build a smaller version as my pond is 25ft in diameter and max 3.5ft. I want to have a few small fish and want to move water for them.
This would be perfect for that size pond. Honestly, I want my fountain to be a little larger. Best of luck!
What size pump you get and where
Listed in the video at the beginning. Try home depot or lowes.
How are the inner and outer drums attached to each other? Is it just the foam holding them together??
It is just the foam. The larger just sits on top.
Thank you, it works
Awesome! Glad it worked out for you.
How do you get the fountain system out to the middle of your pond?
You will probably need a boat.
Depending on pond size, if you don't have a boat, kayak, etc., you might could run long enough string or rope so that you could walk around to opposite side and drag it to the middle. I would try to get it in the water first as far as possible, maybe using waders, so that it's already floating before you start pulling. Once the depth exceeds the length of the anchors, the drag should ease up.
Do you have any thoughts about doing this using the overflow from my artesian well instead of a pump? My well overflow is about 15 gpm from a 2" pvc pipe. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Sorry, I'm not sure.
Please make a video how-to for your floating duck house. 🙏🏻 I want to build one for my ducks.
Hey Erin, I'll try to put it together this week. I don't know if I have all of the footage that I need, but I'll try to get it out to you. Thanks for watching.
I would like to see that too for my ducks
How long is the chord on your pump? My pump only has about a 10foot chord and I cant find any extension chord connecters that are rating for being submerged in water
It is maybe 6 ft long. The extension cord I used wasn't rated specifically for it, but it worked. I don't know if there are cords specifically made for it or not.
Just make sure to use a gfi in case of a short. Don't mess around with water and electricity, and keep the connections out of the water.
@@y2kok "Keep the connections out of the water"... How? If the pump cord is only 6' long, then you need to use the extension cord cover and that will be submerged in the water, right? Am I missing something here?
I need this,, please help me
Can you post a link for the pump you used? Ones I'm finding are not inexpensive. Any help?
Hey Anthony,
I just looked and you are correct, pumps are expensive. When I made this video I could get a sump for around $100 - $125. Prices have really gone up.
I would look on Facebook Marketplace for a gently used one, or I am also trying to work out a deal with a company that sells pumps. If I can get that to work out then I will post the link here, and it should be a little bit cheaper.
Where can we see step by step assembly?
You should be able to watch the video and get a pretty good idea. If you have any specific questions then let me know.
I built a fountain using this method but I've burnt up 2 separate submersible pumps so far and can't figure out why? The first pump lasted about 8 months and the 2nd lasted less than a month. These are quality 1/2 hp pumps with steel impellers. I know they aren't being starved of water. I think the issue is electrical because the GFCI breaker is being tripped when they go out. Very frustrated.
You might want to try a different style of pump. I am only on my second and they are still going strong. How often are you cleaning the intake? If it gets clogged then it will burn up the pump. Also, it makes sense that your gfci is tripped when the pump goes bad. Mine did the same thing.
I would try this style of pump. This will be the next style that I buy. It will have lower GPH than the sump, but is rated for continuous use. www.amazon.com/dp/B07FJZ55Y9/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
@@y2kok thanks. Do you feel I really need that 9k GPH 620W size pump? Where do you see that it claims to be rated for continuous use?
Update: please look at the Amazon reviews of the pump you shared. Not very impressive in terms of longevity 🤨
@y2kok @trinityacreshomestead4147 I think I'd prefer a minumum 3/4 hp as well. 660 watts would be great, (1hp=746w). The one you recommend also has overload protection. But IMO I'd pay a little extra for a better model. Remember, GFCI ONLY protects from ground fault, NOT an overcurrent/overload condition. Must keep filter clean (possible cause or subpar motor quality). If the pump failed it had already been running at higher amps, motor windings heated and fused, etc. If really wanted to protect from overcurrent/overload, as an added protection put an inline fuse holder and fuse in a larger 4" receptacle box with the GFCI (maybe 8-10 amps).
Informative
Thanks for watching!
Brian, do you make these to sell? How could I speak with you, directly, for a couple of questions? Thanks
I don't sell these fountains. This is just a DIY idea I had and wanted to share with other people. Feel free to message me on here.
Where did you get the 45 gal
There are several people that sell those around me. A 50 gallon would work just fine, and that might be easier to find. Check FB marketplace or craigslist. I am sure there will be people around you selling them.
What name brand pump are you using, how long can it run, and how many hp.
Thanks in advance.
It is listed in the video, but the pump is a 1/2 hp sump pump. Brand doesn't matter, but I used a Flowtec Floodmate 6000. I am pretty sure they don't make that model any longer, but a 1/2 hp pump will work nicely.
What kind of pump did you use? Size??
It is a 1/2 hp sump pump. You can get them at any hardware store.
The pump that I have is too strong and pulls itself underwater. Any tips?
Add something to make it more buoyant. More foam perhaps.
@@y2kok had a go-kart tire inner tube in the garage. Put it up to 8lbs and put it in the case I made. Holds it up and I have a nice fountain now. Thanks for the inspiration.
Could you add a link for the pump you used?
The pump is no longer made. If you are starting from the beginning then I would buy a pump that is made from continuous use.
Maybe try something like this:
www.amazon.com/dp/B07FFXXRCT/?tag=best-pond-pump-20&asc_source=browser&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bobvila.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-pond-pump&th=1
What is the GPM on your pump?
6000 gph at a 5ft head.
Hot glue some weight to the opposite side of the cord protector counter balance it.
I don't think that would hold on there, but it is worth a try.
Have you attempted a head that sprays high out the middle as well?
Yes, you could make a singular hole in the center and it would go quite high. However, that is going to lead to a lot more evaporation, and that is why a lot of people don't use that spray pattern.
@@y2kok good to know thanks for the reply
@@jacobwaffird5082 Not a problem. Best of luck on your build.
These pumps are not designed to run for extended periods of time and will over heat and burn up....
Indeed. I had them on hand and that I was I used it.
What pond dye did you use
I have used several, but this was from Tractor Supply and is the aqua color. I have since moved to a darker blue and like better.
Your power cord protector actually goes underwater?
No, I wouldn't advise it going under water. It sat on top of the fountain.
How much does it cost to run?
It was around $20 per month for me.
That is nice but a 1/2 hp pump puts out way more gph then needed.
Puts out a lot less than I wanted. My pond is 1/2 acre and would like it to move more water.
You might want to center your drill bit in the chuck first.
lol, yeah I have been waiting for that comment for quite some time.
How do you go fishing with live electrical wire hanging in the water?
Use a cable that is rated for water use. The connection is not in the water, and sits on top of the fountain in my setup. Would be best practice to have a pump with a cable that is long enough to make it to shore. That said, having this on a GFI is pretty critical.
@@y2kok I think that’s where some of the confusion comes in. I didn’t notice in the video where you said to make the extension cord attachment inside the bucket. I also visualized it being underwater with that little protector, being the only thing holding the water out.
JUST CURIOUS... How were you able to float the fountain into position and anchor it there?
I have a small boat that I use. Otherwise, I could walk out there as my pond is only about 6 feet deep at most, but that would be significantly more difficult.
@@y2kok Stick with the boat! A very fine resolve for the project.
@@tribulationprepper787 Haha, for sure.
all the connectors say do not submerse in water? did you add silicone or no?
Sorry, which connectors?
@@y2kok the extension plug cover
@@gwp1ohio It actually sits on top of the fountain and isn't sitting in the water. Hope that helps some.
@@y2kok 3M waterproof electrical tape to wrap connections would work better
@@betsyfincher9859 I didn't know that existed. I'll check it out. Thanks
If the pump is oil cooled it with eventually leak and harm your fish
The pond is fairly large. Chances are likely that any leak that occurs, if it does, would be unnoticed.
The oil used in fountain motors are not made of harmful oil. It is basically cooking oil. I’ve worked on them for many years and torn many of them apart.
Electric cost are now a huge issue. Solar power is needed.
My power remains around $0.10 - $0.11 per kwh so power isn't an issue for me. However, if you can affordably do solar then even better!
How do you keep the debris out of the bucket
You will have to clean the fountain from time to time. I had to do it about every 30 - 40 days.
How do you keep it in one spot?
That is what I used the rope and cinder blocks for. Place one and each side for the fountain, make sure the rope is tight, and it will hold the fountain in place.
What hp pump did you use?
I tried .5 hp and 3/4 hp and both worked. I ended up using the 3/4 hp just for the extra water movement.
Best of luck!
I am trying to find a place to get a plastic barrell any options? I am looking into making one that uses solar, lot more youtube videos to watch but good stuff so far!
There are several small businesses or individuals that sell them around me. I would check FB marketplace or Craigslist to try and find some local. Otherwise, if you have to buy one new it is going to be over $100.
Good luck
What is the GPM rating on the pump
Sorry for the slow response. This is a 6000 GPH pump.
run it through a windmill or solar and do a video please
There are setups out there that show that, but this is not setup for that power method.
Does plug connector go underwater
No, I try to keep it out of the water by sitting in on top of the barrel. That said, it does fall in from time to time.
@@y2koktried zip tie it to the top?
@@operatoreng That is a good idea. However you do it, just be safe and make sure you are using a water rated cord. Super important.
@@operatoreng I have not.
Sump pumps aren’t meant for 24/7 operation
You are correct. This was a cheap option that I had on hand.
@@y2kok did it last good looking to fix my pond up
Wow
is it still working
Yep, going strong. When I build another I will use a different style pump though.
@@y2kok I built one last year w a harbor freight pump. It didnt last long, but I was told they get clogged easy. I need to build another one
@@workhardplayhard3206 If you are buying another pump then buy one that is made for continuous use. I used the sump because I had it. They cost about the same price, but the continuous use pump will be more efficient.