It's that time of year again. CitizenCon is closing in pretty fast. With it comes a various amount of emotions. Excitement, frustration, depression, and even just a numb feeling. Will it be bigger than last year? Will Squadron 42 release soon after? And will they finally deliver on their goal from last year by finally speeding up development? Let me know your thoughts in the comments! Keep it civil and respectful, please.
@@Sams911 Brother, you have overpaid exactly 15k dollars. Me, only 70 dollars so far and I wish I hadn't, honestly. The game is nonexistant. Empty shell and a ton of equally empty promises. I want and hope to be proven wrong, but soon. Also, I applaud your decision not to spend any more money before your initial investment is justified, everyone should do the same. That would put some pressure on the greedy company which we are obviously dealing with. That's some serious money.
One thing I probably didn't bring up; but I was just assuming that more fluid animations would be automatically moved over. The cybernetic limbs would probably be part of an enhanced medical system. Which would be awesome!
Cybernetic limbs would be a thing a part of Death of a Spaceman and I dont thing we will see this very soon, or not in the next 1-3 years. Depending ofc how fast SC now moves to 1.0 :D
I'd be happy with Magnus, home of Drake HQ, and is on the "highway to Sol". It has jump points to both Stanton a Terra so would awesome if they showed plans for both.
I think there is almost a 100% chance that we see the next star system after Pyro. Im talking them showing off planets, moons, a space station, or even a city/settlement. The teams that work on that stuff finished most of their work in Pyro long ago and they now have the tools to pump out star systems. Feel free to come back here and make fun of me if im wrong 😂
@JamestheKilljoy I'm gonna have to critique myself at the end of the year with all of my terrible and inaccurate predictions from some of my earlier videos. Still learning to balance my hope and optimism with a little bit more of my more logical and analytical side.
@@seveneternal7988 yeah absolutely. That's why I'm so sure we will see the next system to come after Pyro. Probably Nyx, but I'm betting we will see Terra or another system, too
I just want the new flight model, I want to feel the gravity and weight of our ships, the vibrations during atmospheric entry, and severe storms, ray tracing would also be sweeeeat
I hope to see progress on base building. was there last year when it was announced and the crowd got very excited about it. there also may be some scanning discussion.
They are going to focus on 1.0, at least that’s what I heard Jared say. What I also hope is to see more qol , lively mission givers, new long awaited character status update, medical gameplays, death of a spaceman mechanic,
I be excited to hear that Pyro was a wall they hid behind this whole time and they actually have a larger amount of systems ready to go due to all the work from sq42 and that drops this xmas or 1st quarter at latest 2025 so when it drops all the other systems open up too with whatever hidden features they've added to 42 we dont know about.
My prediction was that the best way to know when it was nearing completion was when the recorded the soundtrack. I know that sounds crazy, but that means that all the other elements are done, and they actually started recording the soundtrack this month. It would coincide with the demo, since the ST is literally the last thing that needs finishing. Of course, it being a videogame, the remaining time will no doubt be spent on optimization. I wouldn't be surprised if all the Vulkan work was done for squadron, with them worrying about the PU a while after release.
Honestly, that doesn't sound crazy or far fetched. A lot of the final steps for video games I've found has been recording music so that it fits each of their cinematic cut scenes. It's effectively the most efficient way to do it and makes sense when it comes to music. As someone who has a hobby of writing and composing music on my off time, I find it extemely easier to write music when I watch what I'm trying to write. And it always ends up being better.
Citizencon itself will be about the road from alpha 4.0 to release 1.0, because everything else has already been overcovered. As for announcements, anything less than 4.0 and sq42 release date for less than 6 months would be disappointing.
Basebuilding will elevate this game to another level. The ability to have your own homestead has been an appeal since UO had houses and castles, where you could decorate and store items and even have vendors with your goods. But that could become thin ice; too easily losing a homestead would be devastating to a player, especially if fully built up with a lot of time and money invested. Personally I would prefer having the option of building most of my base underground, with the exception of modules that need sunlight (flora//), atmosphere/area (fauna//) or direct surface access (hangars, elevators, defense..). The access could be very similar to current bunkers, or hangar only (if no other surface installations) which would be deeper than even the very large hangars. Elevator access could be to the surface but flat like cargo elevators or the Corsair roof. Edit: a camouflaged hangar door option would be killer.
Absolutely agree with you. It would be best for players that don't have the capability to defend it easily to setup those bases in UEE controlled space so they're invulnerable. It'd be perfect for a shop location. Also I think they said they'll be exploring base building underground in the future. It is definitely something they wanna look at.
I hope it's Terra or any other new system other than what we've seen so far... plus after that Chris saying, "..and 4.0 and Pyro is live now too!" That's the only way to stop all the built up frustrations of this year for me.
Honestly like your view points and hopes for the upcoming citizencon, However I must say that that in my opinion, This con is going to either make or break the future of the game if they fail to either restoke the hype from last year or build on it.
I backed this project at the beginning for Squadron42, I'm a grey haired Wing Commander veteran. Super hyped for any info on it and hoping for a release at least by winter 2026, no chance of it coming out before that. I hope they promise to give us a playable demo at some point soon before launch.
@@Hav0k I say this because GTA6 is coming next year and I don't think CIG wants to compete with that. Better to wait until the hype runs out, build a marketing campaign in the 2 years leading up to it and then release at Citizencon 2956 and hopefully give us some sort of playable demo in the meantime.
@pmcomputing2459 I absolutely agree with you actually. It would be pretty much a detriment if they released it against another game cause it may not go the best direction for them. I think a Q1 2025 release would be bad. It either had to be this year, or they have to wait until next year during a period that doesn't have a major release. If they time it just right and it delivers even just a good game (it honestly doesn't have to be great but I hope it is), it will be immensely popular and drive a massive amount of growth. As we've seen lately, single player game with good story have been missing in the gaming industry for a minute.
I think once 4.0 is dropped there will be major development jumps. The tech required for 4.0 has been what all the hold up has been, I mean could they have added more to the PU IMO yes but the once 4.0 is dropped it becomes scalable to what we have been wanting for many years.
Realy good video. As a veteran i go in like the other years. No expetations or hype completly neutral and watch what the show to us. But i have to admit it was to much last year... I try to keep my hype curve as flat as possible during the event.
Basebuilding is fun, but I'll barely touch any base once habs 2.0 and building interiors come in. Living in a space city and flying into a city without going through atc excites me far more
I think if SQ42 is a commercial success, the devs will go straight to Chapter 2 and 3 to be honest, especially if they need to reprise roles and need face capturing. I think Chris Roberts has always had his eye on the cinematic and story-telling front and Star Citizen will always get put on the back burner.
the fact that SQ42 is devided into 3 chapters is very very old information and CIG never confirmed since those days that SQ42 is a trilogy. At this point its just a very old community meme from my point of view. We need to keep in mind that the SQ42 trilogy game was a very different game than the one we are getting now. In the first leak of SQ42 it was very clear that it was just "part 1" as it did not lead to the end of the war in the Odin system, but as for the script leaked in 2017, which was after the restart of SQ42, it was very clear that the script and the plot lead to the defetat of the the Vanduul in Odin system, leading to the current situation in lore. Im not sure from where it comes that SQ42 is still a trilogy but from the leaked files, its clearly no longer a trilogy (unless they restarted SQ42 again after 2017 which would not make much sense). So, they have 3 options; 1) they devide the current SQ42 into 3 games; 2) they do a "SQ42 part 2", but that would be built on literally new lore; 3) they do another totally different inlore game. Option 4 is that all the devs come back to SC, but from my point of view thats not gonna happen.
A leak from 2017? Especially when the game was already delayed from its 2016 release? That's falling just as much in the realm of conjecture as all other comments here. Game development, especially for a project like Squadron 42, involves continuous polishing and re-evaluation... and boy have we had polishing and re-evaluation; I've got multiple years of SQ42 update emails to prove that. To treat leaks from seven years ago as definitive is to ignore the iterative process of game creation. Over time, narratives evolve, mechanics are refined, and entire plotlines can be rewritten. And I'm sure it has since the "leaks". The mention of the Vanduul's defeat in the Odin system doesn't necessarily signify an endpoint but could serve as a pivotal moment from which new story arcs emerge. Who knows what the Vanduul are going to do and if there are more of them. We're looking at possibly the beginning of new conflicts or the uncovering of deeper mysteries within the Star Citizen universe, not a narrative conclusion that leads directly into Star Citizen since there could still be many years in between for multiple stories... and then again, go right into development of the sequel that happens years in the future. /shrug. Guessing game regardless. The notion of Squadron 42 being a trilogy being a meme is an oversimplification of the Kickstarter milestones. Interviews and statements from CIG and CR have always hinted at a vast narrative landscape, possibly beyond what any single game could contain. The promise of 50+ missions, rewards, and multiple "discs" hasn't been refuted. And "never confirmed"? They don't have to answer anybody. Not confirming upcoming plans or changes is standard practice in the gaming industry, particularly for games of this nature. The absence of confirmation isn't evidence of invalidity but rather a strategic choice to keep fans engaged and intrigued is my thought process. While leaks and early development plans provide a glimpse into what could have been, the final direction of Squadron 42, its sequels, or related content will be defined by CIG's vision as it evolves. What we're doing now, the community speculating and discussing, is part of the journey. But knowing Chris Roberts, he'll probably want to start immediately on the sequel and still drip feed the PU. Everybody can quit, be mad, blow up Spectrum... but I doubt he even listens or acknowledges the noise. Edit: I've put in over 10 grand for context. I want it to succeed; that's a lot to drop on hope for something that isn't physical. But just telling you my observations and what I've seen from CR's projects over the last 30 years. I don't have any hope of Star Citizen getting a decent release for years to come. He probably knows that SQ42 HAS to be a success, and if it captures an audience that has never learned about SC/SQ42 or has been waiting to dip their toes only after release of SQ42, work has got to start immediately on the sequel. Only way for Star Citizen to survive would be more offices and/or developers and hopefully they don't get reallocated to the single-player portion.
@@Raubvogel The game was not "delayed", it was restarted to follow what the community wanted. And I know this is very all stuff and really nowadays nobody knows about stuff but this, but there is no """conjecture""" here. Im talking about facts. The fact that u didnt know that the 2017 leak existed, doesnt meant that it did not exist nor it does not meant that we should not take it into account. Just to inform you a bit about old Star Citizen stuff, Hater and Heavybob were essentially like co owners of the original SC leaks discord with powers shared between them and a few other moderator types. Eventually Hater and the team had come into possession (potentially illegally) of a back door into CIG and some information/files, named as the "2017 Leak", or the "AWS leak". This also helped them to crack the P4K file and crack the SC delta patcher, which allowed them to run SC in offline from. Some leaker managed to crack SC until 3.12, while SC leaks, specially Peagles, only cracked until 3.4 if I am not mistaken. This is how some years ago they showed models of the bengal, retribution and others that were never seen before. Just to recapitulate on what was leaked, it was leaked a specific build of SC and SQ42 at that time, along with some other not really interesting CIG internal dev files. This included all the SQ42 levels and plot, this included the entire Squadron 42 Soundtrack (which btw a channel called chiffmonkey uploaded on youtube), this included the delta patcher broken of SC, and many others. I really dont know what has to do the kickstarter with SQ42. Lets keep in mind that the kickstarter sq42 was supposed to be a coop game, and the kickstarter SC was meant to be just a module of SQ42, named as a "minecraft in space" with private servers and such. Just to have an idea of how much both games changed over time, specially from the scale change which was with 3.0 // in 2016, which is why its important the 2017 leak aas it shows how the sq42 lastly was meant to be.
@@Raubvogel i think my message was delated. Anyways, the fact that u did not know about the 2017 does not mean that it did not existed. The entire plot was leaked, all the levels were leaked, the entire sq42 soundtrack was leaked. It was a big leak. If you are interested just google for the "aws leak" and u will find out.
I'm looking forward to the end of CitizenCon. Every time they run these events, the servers are a shit show. What will they actually reveal? Space cows, more underground bunker stuff, more cargo hauling stuff, more salvage stuff, more server meshing stuff and they'll make a big fuss over Pyro as though they haven't been showing us Pyro since 2018. There will be no release dates. CIG don't do release dates because they can't hit them. And it's not because they like to make sure things are just right. It's because they just seem to be struggling getting even really basic stuff done.
If there's something I'm hoping for as a post 4.0 showcase, it's the building interiors and the ArcCorp rework. With the distribution centers in game, there's room for some new work from the Montreal locations team... and this is what I'm hoping they tackle next.
@@Hav0k If we get that, then I imagine we'll see persistent habs as well. I'd like that a lot. It's a little thing, but I'd like the Volt weapons. Maybe in a pack on the pledge store, so I can just buy them and have them handy. I'm looking forward to the specialized armor sets, as well. I'd love to see the Greycat UTV, while we're on the subject of incidental tools and whatnot. Until dynamic server meshing is done, everything we get is really just little tastes of what's to come. There isn't one particular system or gameloop I'm anxious for. I've got mostly exploration and basebuilding gear, and that stuff is very dependent on other systems. I like mining in my MOLE. I like dynamic events. I'm looking forward to seeing what kinds of dynamic events get cooked up with the release of Nyx. Pyro seems pretty self-explanatory when it comes to that kind of thing, but Nyx will have some narrative surprises. More and more, I'm agreeing with the prevailing notion that Terra is after Nyx. I do think you're right about that.
Agreed! I think we'll get the volt weapons in 4.0 and it's just not being shown on the roadmap. Specialized armor sets I think will happen soon, but they'll likely talk about it in a character panel along with more of the work they've done on progression. Now they may actually show a very early test demo of Dynamic Server Meshing onboard a ship. That would be pretty cool to see. And I think dynamic events are great, but we definitely need more gameplay loops and missions and specific event rewards that are not bought or purchasable with real world money and are rewards for completing the event and something that people will really want. No ships or vehicles.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video! With the recent mention of armor coming with engineering, remember that while the components and health of ships may get nerfed, armor coming will change it a lot more. And the specific ship weapons and various components will matter a lot more than they use to.
This will probably be the first Citcon that I'm not watching since they revealed the sandworm way back when. I just don't want to get my hopes up anymore. Plus, and I know its an MMO but I've enjoyed many hours solo playing the game doing various missions and space trucking but to me, it seems they are moving away from that. Yeah, folks pop in here and will say "NPC crews." First off, when? Next month? Two months? A year? Two years? 5 years? Second, I don't think ai crew is gonna be all that when it does release because the core element is still playing with folks. As a solo player, my Caterpillar is useless well, will be useless and it also seems that they are pushing for more realism which is nice in some aspects but if you are someone that works for a living, has a family and just wants to log on for an hour or so and you spend 30 mins to get setup, kinda sucks the fun out of it. So, I'm pretty much partially waiting for Squadron 42 to release which could be 5 or 10 years away.
I backed in Feb. 2013, I want this to succeed but I fear that all we will ever get is endless ‘rework’ of ships and systems. How we don’t have Pyro and 10+ other systems to explore is beyond me, but we’ve had numerous flight models.
Release date for squadron42 Release dates for existing concepts Probable date of the pnjs crew availability The announcement of a next system after Pyro
I think release dates for existing concepts might be something for them to avoid. They have a pretty terrible track record of not hitting hard release dates.
Meanwhile, when I accidentally climb into my bunk on my Freelancer on the way to the cockpit, I am unable to get out of the rack. My only option is to logout.
@@Hav0k oh don't be. That was a nice video. Ai is one of those things that need server meshing for it to work properly. Last Tech-Preview was super promising so... maybe it's time to talk about AI / Economy :) Edit: First time watching one of your videos. Just subscribed!
@djentlemanguitar909 Glad you enjoyed the video! And thanks for subscribing! The tech preview was absolutely one of the most promising tests they've had yet. Can't wait for the next.
I don't think we'll get SQ 42 this year or next. cig would also have to optimize it so that it runs on most PCs and most of them have an RTX 2060. You can see what Star Citizen is already needs for Performance
I am actually expecting CIG to take a fair bit about Pyro and I think right so. Their teams have been working to deliver us this for nearly a decade 😂 son it’s right we give them some time to do so and acknowledge the teams that have. There seems to be a popular view that “oh if I see anything about Pyro I will scream” …and I just don’t get that at all? We have had a tech demo and some snippets of info about game systems and you can read up about the lore, sure. But surely we don’t expect them to just silently uploaded this massive milestone without any fan fare? They need to be able to advertise this and celebrate it too. I also think there is a lot more to Pyro than we have been told. The demo only gave us just a few of the locations on offer and will be the fertile ground upon which reputation will be born. I for one, will be hoovering up every piece of Pyro because I know we will be playing it soon. I won’t be going to CitCon to hear more BS about the future of SC. That’s the stuff that’s killed my love for this game more than once over the last 5 years and I personally have had enough of the ‘hype but no substance’ at these events. So, if it’s Pyro heavy great! I love it. Give it to me, it’s what I’ve been waiting for versus more imagination about the future of SC. Love your content man, this is just my view ✌️
I respect your view. I get why you want to see it, but I just feel it would tune more people out than it would excite. You might be an exception to that. Which isn't a bad thing at all. 🙂 Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@@Hav0k I don’t think I am an exception, not at least from the people I’ve spoken to. Pyro hasn’t even been delivered yet and people are trying to look past it instead of focusing on enjoying it. Seems crazy to me as we’ve wanted this for so long! There will be a lot to enjoy no doubt in Pyro especially with new game systems but one thing is certain; we shall all see more clearly in about one month time. I’m looking forward to playing the game in the present rather than hanging on for yet more promises, concepts and ideas for the next patch and the future. Haven’t we had enough of that? I know I have 😅.
@PsyEm-p1j I definitely agree with you on that aspect. I think there will be a lot for us to enjoy and do in Pyro, and it still excited me, and I really want to see it. But I'm honestly one of those people, along with a few that I've talked to, who really don't want to hear or see much about Pyro or 4.0 unless it's suddenly coming in 4.0 or a 4.1. Essentially, I don't want to see another deep dive or showcase if 4.0 or Pyro on anything that's already announced. I simply hope they just release it for people to see it 🙂
@@Hav0k oh I see what you mean now. I think I have misunderstood you and others in this subject then. In my mind, I am assuming that they talk about Pyro on the same day/week it is delivered. Yeah, I agree with you here too then; if there is more ‘blurb’ about Pyro and no action….man I will be mad 😅
uhm idk what to say about the focus on SC they still have the other 2 parts for sq42 they are basically 3 games in total the one that is almost done is the first one meaning part 1
Yes, they do. But at this point, they will have delivered the core of SQ42. It will be imperative they focus on SC before any further episodes of SQ42. But also, most of the features will be completed which will leave them to primarily do writing for the story (if they haven't already), mocap and level design. This can be worked on by a small strike team and let them have more of the developers move to SC. For me, this is more important than the next episode of the single player game.
the lift will come when you press the button ? It's my expectation today . I never succeed to do a cargo mission, always bugged in the first try. if you add all other bugs and all bad stuff like MasterMode, this game is hopeless.
i really want to see them stop making money on ships an let the players build the ship in the furture, only starter ships do i think CIG can sell an skins an so on let the player build the ships an let it take a year to build an Capital ship make it hard lket them take the 12 14 dollars a month but let the player build everything. i do also hope for the Galaxy or more aboudt the Arrastra
This entire game needs GOING BACK TO BASICS... it seems to have run before it can crawl. Back to basics means GO UP TO (USABLE) HAND(S) COME OUT. That way you have a real easy learnable and understandable non-keybinds non-UI way to tactile-interact with the entire universe, AS IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING with the now-missing wall-of-guns wardrobe-of-clothes mechanic.
Man I'm so tired of this crap , not u Havo but other foks (BG) not naming names fan bois have made me hate this game Biggest best 2.0 3.0 3.24 Not no more tired of the lies Tired of making a space sim PC game into a full blown Console arcade game! Backed for over 10 years
I get it. I understand where you're coming from. I try to not focus on the amount of videos I put out each week and instead like to talk about things briefly and move onto another topic. And I'm still working on finding the approach I really want. I think it's coming closer though. A little bit of hope, a little more neutrality.
that time to show thing and never give us them yup that time of year again ow wait we will releasing in 5 more years but here what we could do but we still dont have the tech ow it sever meshing ow wait wait it the LIVE sever fault ow wait wait wait yup that time again
When are then make the game fun? As of now is extreme time consuming. The fun to time spent ratio is sadly way to low. This game is for people not having a life and can sit and play all day and night.
For quick sessions there is arena commander. Star Citizen was never going to be that game you play 30 minutes and be done with it for the day. But I hope they will put in way more things to do. It would be great to visit a place and be able to do mission after mission at that place. I would expect grinding reputation will also become more important but I also hope Star Citizen keeps it Sandbox aspects where you can do whatever you want to do.
How long have you guys been following and backing SC lol? Streamers included. Always expect big talk and ultimately empty promises, you should know by now. If proof was needed 2024 has proven this.
A lot of us have been around for the whole time. Some of us more recently. I've never believed that they have been making promises the whole time, but instead telling us their goals and vision. But yes, they often don't deliver on some of their goals as much as they really want to. Which is sad. But truthfully, it is what it is. If it was rushed, it would be worse than it is now. As I explained though, 2024 is proof that they sometimes do miss the mark.
@@Hav0k Not rushed? Long ago, too long, telling became selling. The time debt so far is a fallucy when you measure it against the ever growing tech debt and the ever growing remaining amount of work to be done. You might counter that ah yes, one day the tools might speed up things, 12 years yet still waiting for some truth in that. Consider that backers have been trained to be grateful instead of analysing what hasnt been achieved yet vs what amounts have been funded. I dont think people have the faith left to supply the projected total cost, i certainly wont.
@@Antares-A Pretty true. There is a lot for them to do and a lot more for them to truly deliver on. If they don't start making massive strides, things will start to die down significantly. This year has absolutely proven that.
They aren't going to release 4.0 for CitCon. Best we can hope for is another tech preview build or evocato build. We're still waiting for the next 3.24.x patch, which will most likely contain the citcon content they want to release.
Do you think they will talk about building interiors? So unbelievably hyped for Squadron though! Also I agree we will see Nyx and I think we will see another system as well, not sure if it will be Terra or not but that's a decent guess.
I thought they mentioned you need so many different types of material to craft the parts for base building. I don’t think we’re quite there yet or even close. I don’t even know if building is a priority.
I have been following the development of this game since 2015. I have seen it all. The only true thing that will impress me and make me excited for this game would be an announcement of other systems being released VERY soon. Even that in itself is a huge copium moment.
Man, im a bit hyped about CitizenCon since last years :DI enjoy the Game as it is with the dreaming what will be in the future^^ I hope CIG shows/says a good chunk of coming modularity for ships that are not so obviously like for the ARGO M.O.L.E so I can live my Pyro life in a Ship wich is a "do it youself" ship which can transport Cargo instead of Mining bags and replace 2 Mining Lasers with S4 guns or so (my dream xD). It will be an underdog and bad at everything - but it will be MY Ship :D
I definitely wanna see mining evolve personally. I think that's another gameplay loop I would love to play more. Especially when there's a purpose to mine and we can craft stuff and build bases.
@@Hav0k Mining is atm already "good", its the deepeth gameplay loop we have ingame :D But yeah, with with Basebuilding, Crafting, etc. the possibilities are endless :D
@sagichdochned absolute it is! I just can't wait to see it have more depth. To give us the Orion and Arrastra and refining gameplay. And to finally give us another gameplay loop that makes it more meaningful. I'm definitely dreaming. But then Again I've been dreaming of all of this for the past 12 years now 🤣😅
Now that life support is being implemented, physical hull damage might not be too far behind, causing pressurization loss. That would mean the cutter tool would need to be finished to Freeform cut hulls as well. Therefore releasing the legionnaire, but I doubt it.
I don't think we will ever get free form cut through hulls ever since there is a huge gap of nothing between ship hulls and interiors but maybe we can cut through docking collars. For the legionnaire the main thing missing is still hacking
The Maelstrom system is in their dev branch and we're finally hearing about armor, so you could absolutely be right that it's really not long until they implement it.
I’m going to have to put my account information into my will so my grandkids can play. Thought being a Grand Admiral would be nice, but looks like I’ll never actually use the title. 🤦♂️
My citizencon predictions are: base building T0 with placeable structures in the pyro system to test lawless building first and foremost with planet tech V5, The next system is NYX and will lead into scanning,data running and exploration along with a goal for Dynamic meshing 1, Tons of new ships ready and at least one concept that prints money, and i wanna hear more about player crafting at least the first implementation.
So my expectations match yours, just with 1 significatant difference. I expect Stanton > Pyro > Nyx > Magnus > Terra (having in mind that back in the day CR said that for 4.0 we needed "around 4-5 systems"). Its important to have in mind that Magnus has the base of drake, and CIG could then take that opportunity to release the Kraken, which would be very significant for funding. Likewise, they worked on magnus lore not so long ago and it was actually updated just like Pyro was.
I'm not gonna lie, I think I forgot completely about that statement he made. This would be incredible to see and I really hope you're right. I just need to keep my expectations low. I also hope that the economy sees it's way in soon and that they discuss it at CitCon. One of my previous videos actually talked about the other 3 systems I think will be delivered as part of the first 5. Those 3 were the exact same as what you mentioned: Nyx, Magnus, Terra. It would add a pretty broad variation for systems we could travel to and probably keep us busy for quite a while. Love the thoughts! And thanks for your comment!
It is very likely that they will show us the jungle biome because they showed us the jungle variant space cow. They put it on Microtech for now but it will be removed in the future, as they mentioned in the ISC... I think Borea is a good candidate to show the jungle biome, it supposedly contains this biome, the system is connected to Stanton and it is a not very big system and rather easy to do. The system is 3AU compared to 5 for Stanton and is only composed of 3 planets: a gas giant, a barren rock and Borea the only real difficulty of the system with its two small Landing Zones Newcastle and Odyssa.
This is not so much what i want at CC but more kinda updates i hope to get. Statmap updates ( player markers ) Base Building ( of some kind ) QT ( remove the stupid splines once and for all ) New system * Rest is just watever.. I played this game far to long to have hopes i just watch and say oohhh .. xD haha Unless im playing it i really mostly just ignore the BS.
There's some info on entity tracking getting a rework to have its own system and not be reliant on the game server. This would allow for improveme to of mission and players markers. Fingers crossed!
There's ways that they could make it less boring. There's a few games that do it really well. I think if they make crafting pretty amazing and involved, that this will be one of the big pulls for base building.
It's that time of year again. CitizenCon is closing in pretty fast. With it comes a various amount of emotions. Excitement, frustration, depression, and even just a numb feeling.
Will it be bigger than last year? Will Squadron 42 release soon after? And will they finally deliver on their goal from last year by finally speeding up development?
Let me know your thoughts in the comments! Keep it civil and respectful, please.
We can only hope (been saying this since 2013)
Hope is all I got left at the moment 😅
@@Hav0k yeah, me too, they already took $15K of my money, not another dime moving forward.
@@Sams911 I haven't spent anywhere near that amount, but I absolutely understand and respect that stance. Your own sanity and family come first.
@@Sams911 Brother, you have overpaid exactly 15k dollars. Me, only 70 dollars so far and I wish I hadn't, honestly. The game is nonexistant. Empty shell and a ton of equally empty promises. I want and hope to be proven wrong, but soon. Also, I applaud your decision not to spend any more money before your initial investment is justified, everyone should do the same. That would put some pressure on the greedy company which we are obviously dealing with. That's some serious money.
New movement system from sq42 with the parkour and the galaxy. Maybe cybernetic limbs..
One thing I probably didn't bring up; but I was just assuming that more fluid animations would be automatically moved over.
The cybernetic limbs would probably be part of an enhanced medical system. Which would be awesome!
Cybernetic limbs would be a thing a part of Death of a Spaceman and I dont thing we will see this very soon, or not in the next 1-3 years. Depending ofc how fast SC now moves to 1.0 :D
I am really looking forward to talking about this again next year.
🤣🤣 I understand the feeling.
If Terra gets announced, I'll lose my mind 😄
Same. And I think a lot of people will
I'd be happy with Magnus, home of Drake HQ, and is on the "highway to Sol". It has jump points to both Stanton a Terra so would awesome if they showed plans for both.
@@phunix1566 Same here!
@@phunix1566 magnus and the kraken beimg released at the same time would be awesome
Your mind is safe.
I think there is almost a 100% chance that we see the next star system after Pyro. Im talking them showing off planets, moons, a space station, or even a city/settlement. The teams that work on that stuff finished most of their work in Pyro long ago and they now have the tools to pump out star systems. Feel free to come back here and make fun of me if im wrong 😂
Lol I guess we'll find out. I'll be sure to save your comment for the future to either vindicate you or tell you we were sadly wrong 😂
@@Hav0k either way I'd love that. I can laugh at myself
@JamestheKilljoy I'm gonna have to critique myself at the end of the year with all of my terrible and inaccurate predictions from some of my earlier videos.
Still learning to balance my hope and optimism with a little bit more of my more logical and analytical side.
They already showed Nyx plannets screenshots some time ago in ISC.
@@seveneternal7988 yeah absolutely. That's why I'm so sure we will see the next system to come after Pyro. Probably Nyx, but I'm betting we will see Terra or another system, too
Base building would be great, I can't wait for a new focus.
Same! I'm pretty positive we'll see it
I just want the new flight model, I want to feel the gravity and weight of our ships, the vibrations during atmospheric entry, and severe storms, ray tracing would also be sweeeeat
Those all sound incredible. I'd love to have all of that!
seeing Mark Hamil's traitorous face as a Star Citizen hallmark is reducing my desire to play.
Id like to see something about building interior 2.0
like a rework of the current interiors?
I hope to see progress on base building. was there last year when it was announced and the crowd got very excited about it. there also may be some scanning discussion.
Supposedly they've made a bit of progess. Can't wait to see it.
They are going to focus on 1.0, at least that’s what I heard Jared say. What I also hope is to see more qol , lively mission givers, new long awaited character status update, medical gameplays, death of a spaceman mechanic,
Yeah that's what I was expecting for the most part as well.
That profane outburst was spot on.
🤣🤣
Personally hoping we see some big improvements on maelstrom and the quantum travel rework
I think we'll see a lot of info on Maelstrom. Especially with the recent armor talk in the latest ISC
I be excited to hear that Pyro was a wall they hid behind this whole time and they actually have a larger amount of systems ready to go due to all the work from sq42 and that drops this xmas or 1st quarter at latest 2025 so when it drops all the other systems open up too with whatever hidden features they've added to 42 we dont know about.
Part of me really hopes this has been the case all along... but I doubt it.
@Hav0k sometimes hurts to dream, but they say we should always dream big
@@arcalen9233 True!
I have a slight feeling that we'll just get nyx extra in 4.0
@@CylonRaider75 I really wish. But part of me doubts it.
It would be incredible though.
My prediction was that the best way to know when it was nearing completion was when the recorded the soundtrack. I know that sounds crazy, but that means that all the other elements are done, and they actually started recording the soundtrack this month. It would coincide with the demo, since the ST is literally the last thing that needs finishing.
Of course, it being a videogame, the remaining time will no doubt be spent on optimization. I wouldn't be surprised if all the Vulkan work was done for squadron, with them worrying about the PU a while after release.
Honestly, that doesn't sound crazy or far fetched. A lot of the final steps for video games I've found has been recording music so that it fits each of their cinematic cut scenes. It's effectively the most efficient way to do it and makes sense when it comes to music.
As someone who has a hobby of writing and composing music on my off time, I find it extemely easier to write music when I watch what I'm trying to write. And it always ends up being better.
Citizencon itself will be about the road from alpha 4.0 to release 1.0, because everything else has already been overcovered.
As for announcements, anything less than 4.0 and sq42 release date for less than 6 months would be disappointing.
Levski !!! I'm here !
Basebuilding will elevate this game to another level. The ability to have your own homestead has been an appeal since UO had houses and castles, where you could decorate and store items and even have vendors with your goods. But that could become thin ice; too easily losing a homestead would be devastating to a player, especially if fully built up with a lot of time and money invested.
Personally I would prefer having the option of building most of my base underground, with the exception of modules that need sunlight (flora//), atmosphere/area (fauna//) or direct surface access (hangars, elevators, defense..). The access could be very similar to current bunkers, or hangar only (if no other surface installations) which would be deeper than even the very large hangars. Elevator access could be to the surface but flat like cargo elevators or the Corsair roof. Edit: a camouflaged hangar door option would be killer.
Absolutely agree with you. It would be best for players that don't have the capability to defend it easily to setup those bases in UEE controlled space so they're invulnerable. It'd be perfect for a shop location. Also I think they said they'll be exploring base building underground in the future. It is definitely something they wanna look at.
I hope it's Terra or any other new system other than what we've seen so far... plus after that Chris saying, "..and 4.0 and Pyro is live now too!" That's the only way to stop all the built up frustrations of this year for me.
I feel that. I don't expect it to be live by then. Put possibly in the PTU for everyone.
I will be watching and hoping they only give us what we WILL get so the next year wont feel like another let down
I kind of agree
30k disconnects are AFK only now.
I dunno. I've experienced a couple here and there. But very rarely now as opposed to the past.
I love the “King of Swag” face Havok gives us
I hope we get Malestrom soon. It's mega weird that a tree can carry a carrack without falling over
Honestly like your view points and hopes for the upcoming citizencon, However I must say that that in my opinion, This con is going to either make or break the future of the game if they fail to either restoke the hype from last year or build on it.
I agree with you 100%. It will absolutely make or break the future. And I truly hope they nail it.
I backed this project at the beginning for Squadron42, I'm a grey haired Wing Commander veteran. Super hyped for any info on it and hoping for a release at least by winter 2026, no chance of it coming out before that. I hope they promise to give us a playable demo at some point soon before launch.
I disagree with the release date, but I am also becoming pretty greyed as well.
@@Hav0k I say this because GTA6 is coming next year and I don't think CIG wants to compete with that. Better to wait until the hype runs out, build a marketing campaign in the 2 years leading up to it and then release at Citizencon 2956 and hopefully give us some sort of playable demo in the meantime.
@pmcomputing2459 I absolutely agree with you actually. It would be pretty much a detriment if they released it against another game cause it may not go the best direction for them.
I think a Q1 2025 release would be bad. It either had to be this year, or they have to wait until next year during a period that doesn't have a major release.
If they time it just right and it delivers even just a good game (it honestly doesn't have to be great but I hope it is), it will be immensely popular and drive a massive amount of growth. As we've seen lately, single player game with good story have been missing in the gaming industry for a minute.
@@Hav0k 100% kindof sucks tho I want to play Squadron right now, but such is the world of business.
Same. It would be a great early Christmas present.
Dream on... in the meantime: buy more ships and ATLS!
I think once 4.0 is dropped there will be major development jumps. The tech required for 4.0 has been what all the hold up has been, I mean could they have added more to the PU IMO yes but the once 4.0 is dropped it becomes scalable to what we have been wanting for many years.
Realy good video. As a veteran i go in like the other years. No expetations or hype completly neutral and watch what the show to us.
But i have to admit it was to much last year... I try to keep my hype curve as flat as possible during the event.
Same. I'm gonna try to keep my expectations as low as I can. Which is kinda why I didn't add too much to this list.
Basebuilding is fun, but I'll barely touch any base once habs 2.0 and building interiors come in. Living in a space city and flying into a city without going through atc excites me far more
I don't think we'll see Terra, but maybe Nyx.
Yeah I doubt Terra will be too. It would blow my mind if it did.
Building Interiors + Arcorp Rework
I think if SQ42 is a commercial success, the devs will go straight to Chapter 2 and 3 to be honest, especially if they need to reprise roles and need face capturing. I think Chris Roberts has always had his eye on the cinematic and story-telling front and Star Citizen will always get put on the back burner.
I could see you being right on that. But I think there's been enough borderline burned bridges that he'll realize they need to come after 1.0
the fact that SQ42 is devided into 3 chapters is very very old information and CIG never confirmed since those days that SQ42 is a trilogy. At this point its just a very old community meme from my point of view.
We need to keep in mind that the SQ42 trilogy game was a very different game than the one we are getting now. In the first leak of SQ42 it was very clear that it was just "part 1" as it did not lead to the end of the war in the Odin system, but as for the script leaked in 2017, which was after the restart of SQ42, it was very clear that the script and the plot lead to the defetat of the the Vanduul in Odin system, leading to the current situation in lore. Im not sure from where it comes that SQ42 is still a trilogy but from the leaked files, its clearly no longer a trilogy (unless they restarted SQ42 again after 2017 which would not make much sense).
So, they have 3 options; 1) they devide the current SQ42 into 3 games; 2) they do a "SQ42 part 2", but that would be built on literally new lore; 3) they do another totally different inlore game. Option 4 is that all the devs come back to SC, but from my point of view thats not gonna happen.
A leak from 2017? Especially when the game was already delayed from its 2016 release? That's falling just as much in the realm of conjecture as all other comments here. Game development, especially for a project like Squadron 42, involves continuous polishing and re-evaluation... and boy have we had polishing and re-evaluation; I've got multiple years of SQ42 update emails to prove that. To treat leaks from seven years ago as definitive is to ignore the iterative process of game creation. Over time, narratives evolve, mechanics are refined, and entire plotlines can be rewritten. And I'm sure it has since the "leaks".
The mention of the Vanduul's defeat in the Odin system doesn't necessarily signify an endpoint but could serve as a pivotal moment from which new story arcs emerge. Who knows what the Vanduul are going to do and if there are more of them. We're looking at possibly the beginning of new conflicts or the uncovering of deeper mysteries within the Star Citizen universe, not a narrative conclusion that leads directly into Star Citizen since there could still be many years in between for multiple stories... and then again, go right into development of the sequel that happens years in the future. /shrug. Guessing game regardless.
The notion of Squadron 42 being a trilogy being a meme is an oversimplification of the Kickstarter milestones. Interviews and statements from CIG and CR have always hinted at a vast narrative landscape, possibly beyond what any single game could contain. The promise of 50+ missions, rewards, and multiple "discs" hasn't been refuted.
And "never confirmed"? They don't have to answer anybody. Not confirming upcoming plans or changes is standard practice in the gaming industry, particularly for games of this nature. The absence of confirmation isn't evidence of invalidity but rather a strategic choice to keep fans engaged and intrigued is my thought process.
While leaks and early development plans provide a glimpse into what could have been, the final direction of Squadron 42, its sequels, or related content will be defined by CIG's vision as it evolves. What we're doing now, the community speculating and discussing, is part of the journey. But knowing Chris Roberts, he'll probably want to start immediately on the sequel and still drip feed the PU. Everybody can quit, be mad, blow up Spectrum... but I doubt he even listens or acknowledges the noise.
Edit: I've put in over 10 grand for context. I want it to succeed; that's a lot to drop on hope for something that isn't physical. But just telling you my observations and what I've seen from CR's projects over the last 30 years. I don't have any hope of Star Citizen getting a decent release for years to come. He probably knows that SQ42 HAS to be a success, and if it captures an audience that has never learned about SC/SQ42 or has been waiting to dip their toes only after release of SQ42, work has got to start immediately on the sequel. Only way for Star Citizen to survive would be more offices and/or developers and hopefully they don't get reallocated to the single-player portion.
@@Raubvogel The game was not "delayed", it was restarted to follow what the community wanted. And I know this is very all stuff and really nowadays nobody knows about stuff but this, but there is no """conjecture""" here. Im talking about facts. The fact that u didnt know that the 2017 leak existed, doesnt meant that it did not exist nor it does not meant that we should not take it into account.
Just to inform you a bit about old Star Citizen stuff, Hater and Heavybob were essentially like co owners of the original SC leaks discord with powers shared between them and a few other moderator types. Eventually Hater and the team had come into possession (potentially illegally) of a back door into CIG and some information/files, named as the "2017 Leak", or the "AWS leak".
This also helped them to crack the P4K file and crack the SC delta patcher, which allowed them to run SC in offline from. Some leaker managed to crack SC until 3.12, while SC leaks, specially Peagles, only cracked until 3.4 if I am not mistaken. This is how some years ago they showed models of the bengal, retribution and others that were never seen before.
Just to recapitulate on what was leaked, it was leaked a specific build of SC and SQ42 at that time, along with some other not really interesting CIG internal dev files. This included all the SQ42 levels and plot, this included the entire Squadron 42 Soundtrack (which btw a channel called chiffmonkey uploaded on youtube), this included the delta patcher broken of SC, and many others.
I really dont know what has to do the kickstarter with SQ42. Lets keep in mind that the kickstarter sq42 was supposed to be a coop game, and the kickstarter SC was meant to be just a module of SQ42, named as a "minecraft in space" with private servers and such. Just to have an idea of how much both games changed over time, specially from the scale change which was with 3.0 // in 2016, which is why its important the 2017 leak aas it shows how the sq42 lastly was meant to be.
@@Raubvogel i think my message was delated. Anyways, the fact that u did not know about the 2017 does not mean that it did not existed. The entire plot was leaked, all the levels were leaked, the entire sq42 soundtrack was leaked. It was a big leak. If you are interested just google for the "aws leak" and u will find out.
I'm looking forward to the end of CitizenCon. Every time they run these events, the servers are a shit show.
What will they actually reveal? Space cows, more underground bunker stuff, more cargo hauling stuff, more salvage stuff, more server meshing stuff and they'll make a big fuss over Pyro as though they haven't been showing us Pyro since 2018. There will be no release dates. CIG don't do release dates because they can't hit them. And it's not because they like to make sure things are just right. It's because they just seem to be struggling getting even really basic stuff done.
If there's something I'm hoping for as a post 4.0 showcase, it's the building interiors and the ArcCorp rework. With the distribution centers in game, there's room for some new work from the Montreal locations team... and this is what I'm hoping they tackle next.
That's something I didn't consider. I would LOVE to see an Arc Corp rework and building interiors.
@@Hav0k If we get that, then I imagine we'll see persistent habs as well. I'd like that a lot.
It's a little thing, but I'd like the Volt weapons. Maybe in a pack on the pledge store, so I can just buy them and have them handy. I'm looking forward to the specialized armor sets, as well. I'd love to see the Greycat UTV, while we're on the subject of incidental tools and whatnot.
Until dynamic server meshing is done, everything we get is really just little tastes of what's to come. There isn't one particular system or gameloop I'm anxious for. I've got mostly exploration and basebuilding gear, and that stuff is very dependent on other systems. I like mining in my MOLE. I like dynamic events.
I'm looking forward to seeing what kinds of dynamic events get cooked up with the release of Nyx. Pyro seems pretty self-explanatory when it comes to that kind of thing, but Nyx will have some narrative surprises.
More and more, I'm agreeing with the prevailing notion that Terra is after Nyx. I do think you're right about that.
Agreed! I think we'll get the volt weapons in 4.0 and it's just not being shown on the roadmap. Specialized armor sets I think will happen soon, but they'll likely talk about it in a character panel along with more of the work they've done on progression.
Now they may actually show a very early test demo of Dynamic Server Meshing onboard a ship. That would be pretty cool to see. And I think dynamic events are great, but we definitely need more gameplay loops and missions and specific event rewards that are not bought or purchasable with real world money and are rewards for completing the event and something that people will really want. No ships or vehicles.
I wanted to take my Redeemer to Pyro and other systems and now its nurfed badly.
im so sad now...
great video btw :)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!
With the recent mention of armor coming with engineering, remember that while the components and health of ships may get nerfed, armor coming will change it a lot more. And the specific ship weapons and various components will matter a lot more than they use to.
I just hope we get new stuff for orgs
Same!
Ill Answer it (what not to expect) answer is everything
This will probably be the first Citcon that I'm not watching since they revealed the sandworm way back when. I just don't want to get my hopes up anymore. Plus, and I know its an MMO but I've enjoyed many hours solo playing the game doing various missions and space trucking but to me, it seems they are moving away from that. Yeah, folks pop in here and will say "NPC crews." First off, when? Next month? Two months? A year? Two years? 5 years? Second, I don't think ai crew is gonna be all that when it does release because the core element is still playing with folks. As a solo player, my Caterpillar is useless well, will be useless and it also seems that they are pushing for more realism which is nice in some aspects but if you are someone that works for a living, has a family and just wants to log on for an hour or so and you spend 30 mins to get setup, kinda sucks the fun out of it. So, I'm pretty much partially waiting for Squadron 42 to release which could be 5 or 10 years away.
I think NPC crews are possibility as well as new atmospheric flight mode
Definitely something I didn't think about. That would be pretty cool to see.
you know, come to think of it. the 3.0 stuff listed in 2016 SEEMS to all be present now, as of the most recent major patch.
Took a minute, but yeah almost. Farming isn't fully realized and Pyro isn't our yet. But soon maybe.
I think we should take this citcon with a giant spoonful of salt unless 4.0 comes out before or during citcon
I backed in Feb. 2013, I want this to succeed but I fear that all we will ever get is endless ‘rework’ of ships and systems. How we don’t have Pyro and 10+ other systems to explore is beyond me, but we’ve had numerous flight models.
I hear that. It's been a long 11 years.
Agree with most, I just believe SQ42 will be released in Q4 2025.
They need another year to built the hype
I really hope not to be honest. But maybe
@@Hav0k and I really hope you are right 😂
Release date for squadron42
Release dates for existing concepts
Probable date of the pnjs crew availability
The announcement of a next system after Pyro
I think release dates for existing concepts might be something for them to avoid. They have a pretty terrible track record of not hitting hard release dates.
If they can’t give use Sq42 then they need to open the jump gates to Pyro. One has to give.
Agreed
Meanwhile, when I accidentally climb into my bunk on my Freelancer on the way to the cockpit, I am unable to get out of the rack. My only option is to logout.
Sad days lol :(
There could still be stuff about Pyro, just post-4.0 stuff. Not like Pyro will be DONE in 4.0.
Agreed. That's all well and good. Just as long as we're not seeing a significant amount of 4.0 stuff already announced or shown.
I really really hope to see updates on StarSim / Quantum Simulation.
Same. Oddly enough, somehow I wrote this into the script, but accidently cut it. Which I'm now super sad about
@@Hav0k oh don't be. That was a nice video. Ai is one of those things that need server meshing for it to work properly. Last Tech-Preview was super promising so... maybe it's time to talk about AI / Economy :)
Edit: First time watching one of your videos. Just subscribed!
@djentlemanguitar909 Glad you enjoyed the video! And thanks for subscribing!
The tech preview was absolutely one of the most promising tests they've had yet. Can't wait for the next.
I don't think we'll get SQ 42 this year or next. cig would also have to optimize it so that it runs on most PCs and most of them have an RTX 2060. You can see what Star Citizen is already needs for Performance
I am actually expecting CIG to take a fair bit about Pyro and I think right so. Their teams have been working to deliver us this for nearly a decade 😂 son it’s right we give them some time to do so and acknowledge the teams that have. There seems to be a popular view that “oh if I see anything about Pyro I will scream” …and I just don’t get that at all? We have had a tech demo and some snippets of info about game systems and you can read up about the lore, sure. But surely we don’t expect them to just silently uploaded this massive milestone without any fan fare? They need to be able to advertise this and celebrate it too. I also think there is a lot more to Pyro than we have been told. The demo only gave us just a few of the locations on offer and will be the fertile ground upon which reputation will be born. I for one, will be hoovering up every piece of Pyro because I know we will be playing it soon. I won’t be going to CitCon to hear more BS about the future of SC. That’s the stuff that’s killed my love for this game more than once over the last 5 years and I personally have had enough of the ‘hype but no substance’ at these events. So, if it’s Pyro heavy great! I love it. Give it to me, it’s what I’ve been waiting for versus more imagination about the future of SC. Love your content man, this is just my view ✌️
I respect your view. I get why you want to see it, but I just feel it would tune more people out than it would excite. You might be an exception to that. Which isn't a bad thing at all. 🙂
Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@@Hav0k I don’t think I am an exception, not at least from the people I’ve spoken to.
Pyro hasn’t even been delivered yet and people are trying to look past it instead of focusing on enjoying it. Seems crazy to me as we’ve wanted this for so long! There will be a lot to enjoy no doubt in Pyro especially with new game systems but one thing is certain; we shall all see more clearly in about one month time.
I’m looking forward to playing the game in the present rather than hanging on for yet more promises, concepts and ideas for the next patch and the future. Haven’t we had enough of that? I know I have 😅.
@PsyEm-p1j I definitely agree with you on that aspect. I think there will be a lot for us to enjoy and do in Pyro, and it still excited me, and I really want to see it.
But I'm honestly one of those people, along with a few that I've talked to, who really don't want to hear or see much about Pyro or 4.0 unless it's suddenly coming in 4.0 or a 4.1.
Essentially, I don't want to see another deep dive or showcase if 4.0 or Pyro on anything that's already announced.
I simply hope they just release it for people to see it 🙂
@@Hav0k oh I see what you mean now. I think I have misunderstood you and others in this subject then. In my mind, I am assuming that they talk about Pyro on the same day/week it is delivered. Yeah, I agree with you here too then; if there is more ‘blurb’ about Pyro and no action….man I will be mad 😅
Agreed completely! I wanna see it so bad, but I want to see the bigger vision. The big picture is important to me and gives me more buy in.
nice video :) enjoyed it
Glad you enjoyed the video!
you deserve way more subs
Thanks for the kind words. It's definitely growing, which I'm happy about 😃
uhm idk what to say about the focus on SC they still have the other 2 parts for sq42 they are basically 3 games in total the one that is almost done is the first one meaning part 1
Yes, they do. But at this point, they will have delivered the core of SQ42. It will be imperative they focus on SC before any further episodes of SQ42. But also, most of the features will be completed which will leave them to primarily do writing for the story (if they haven't already), mocap and level design. This can be worked on by a small strike team and let them have more of the developers move to SC. For me, this is more important than the next episode of the single player game.
they really ripping subnautica now!!!
i just hope they limit only 1 base per player. Or its gonna be a shite show.
the lift will come when you press the button ? It's my expectation today . I never succeed to do a cargo mission, always bugged in the first try. if you add all other bugs and all bad stuff like MasterMode, this game is hopeless.
I hope you are right about the Galaxy. Waiting so hard for this thing. But its CIG so better stop puffing the copium. 😂
Yeah you right. My hopium/copium supply on my desk is in need of a refill which will probably only be refilled somewhat by 4.0
TBH the only announcement i'm waiting for is THE REMOVAL OF MASTERMODES
I want my BMM. My wallet is locked away. No more ships.
i dont see terra, but the other things should be possible
I want my Idris! 😂
Yeah this needs to come out soon. I know they keep saying after SQ42 is released, but hurry up already!
I can't sit back and relax to speculations LOL it's too stressful
Good stuff, let’s pray we get a few of these!
i really want to see them stop making money on ships an let the players build the ship in the furture,
only starter ships do i think CIG can sell an skins an so on let the player build the ships an let it take a year to build an Capital ship make it hard lket them take the 12 14 dollars a month but let the player build everything.
i do also hope for the Galaxy or more aboudt the Arrastra
This entire game needs GOING BACK TO BASICS... it seems to have run before it can crawl. Back to basics means GO UP TO (USABLE) HAND(S) COME OUT. That way you have a real easy learnable and understandable non-keybinds non-UI way to tactile-interact with the entire universe, AS IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING with the now-missing wall-of-guns wardrobe-of-clothes mechanic.
last time I got excited for citcon was 6 years ago. never again.
Really ? What does it matter what they reveal or say ?
Man I'm so tired of this crap , not u Havo but other foks (BG) not naming names fan bois have made me hate this game Biggest best 2.0 3.0 3.24 Not no more tired of the lies Tired of making a space sim PC game into a full blown Console arcade game! Backed for over 10 years
I get it. I understand where you're coming from. I try to not focus on the amount of videos I put out each week and instead like to talk about things briefly and move onto another topic. And I'm still working on finding the approach I really want. I think it's coming closer though. A little bit of hope, a little more neutrality.
that time to show thing and never give us them yup that time of year again ow wait we will releasing in 5 more years but here what we could do but we still dont have the tech ow it sever meshing ow wait wait it the LIVE sever fault ow wait wait wait yup that time again
We will be lied to again
I hope not
When are then make the game fun? As of now is extreme time consuming. The fun to time spent ratio is sadly way to low. This game is for people not having a life and can sit and play all day and night.
For quick sessions there is arena commander. Star Citizen was never going to be that game you play 30 minutes and be done with it for the day. But I hope they will put in way more things to do. It would be great to visit a place and be able to do mission after mission at that place. I would expect grinding reputation will also become more important but I also hope Star Citizen keeps it Sandbox aspects where you can do whatever you want to do.
Anyone ever tell you that you look like a younger, healthier and less traumatised Alec Baldwin?
Lol all my life 🤣
man says Q1 2025.... for SQ42 lol, its Q4 2025 at the earliest
there's no game
Pyro Dec 2026
I know been with Chris since MS-DOS Wing Commander. I don't wan't to give up.......
Me too 😅
so piecefull and informative videos. bro please keep doin this. We got bored from bored gamer's and SMC 's fast train empty videos.
How long have you guys been following and backing SC lol? Streamers included. Always expect big talk and ultimately empty promises, you should know by now. If proof was needed 2024 has proven this.
A lot of us have been around for the whole time. Some of us more recently. I've never believed that they have been making promises the whole time, but instead telling us their goals and vision. But yes, they often don't deliver on some of their goals as much as they really want to. Which is sad. But truthfully, it is what it is. If it was rushed, it would be worse than it is now. As I explained though, 2024 is proof that they sometimes do miss the mark.
@@Hav0k Not rushed? Long ago, too long, telling became selling. The time debt so far is a fallucy when you measure it against the ever growing tech debt and the ever growing remaining amount of work to be done.
You might counter that ah yes, one day the tools might speed up things, 12 years yet still waiting for some truth in that.
Consider that backers have been trained to be grateful instead of analysing what hasnt been achieved yet vs what amounts have been funded. I dont think people have the faith left to supply the projected total cost, i certainly wont.
@@Antares-A Pretty true. There is a lot for them to do and a lot more for them to truly deliver on.
If they don't start making massive strides, things will start to die down significantly. This year has absolutely proven that.
They aren't going to release 4.0 for CitCon. Best we can hope for is another tech preview build or evocato build. We're still waiting for the next 3.24.x patch, which will most likely contain the citcon content they want to release.
Yeah you're probably right. At most home hoping for PTU by then but we'll see
Do you think they will talk about building interiors? So unbelievably hyped for Squadron though! Also I agree we will see Nyx and I think we will see another system as well, not sure if it will be Terra or not but that's a decent guess.
I honestly think Base building and crafting will be the big ticket items they'll talk about. So homestead interiors will absolutely be shown.
I thought they mentioned you need so many different types of material to craft the parts for base building. I don’t think we’re quite there yet or even close. I don’t even know if building is a priority.
Yeah you're correct. I don't think it's coming to the game very soon at all. But they'll definitely show us gameplay of it and share more design info.
Very nice vid. Maelstrom also kinda went under the radar. I hope they show their progress
Me too! Maelstrom will be kinda important for me
i want some sort of release window for kraken, i know ironclad is first but those are the only 2 ships in the drake pipeline
The Kraken would be legit to see.
I have been following the development of this game since 2015. I have seen it all. The only true thing that will impress me and make me excited for this game would be an announcement of other systems being released VERY soon. Even that in itself is a huge copium moment.
I understand the feeling.
Man, im a bit hyped about CitizenCon since last years :DI enjoy the Game as it is with the dreaming what will be in the future^^ I hope CIG shows/says a good chunk of coming modularity for ships that are not so obviously like for the ARGO M.O.L.E so I can live my Pyro life in a Ship wich is a "do it youself" ship which can transport Cargo instead of Mining bags and replace 2 Mining Lasers with S4 guns or so (my dream xD). It will be an underdog and bad at everything - but it will be MY Ship :D
I definitely wanna see mining evolve personally. I think that's another gameplay loop I would love to play more. Especially when there's a purpose to mine and we can craft stuff and build bases.
@@Hav0k Mining is atm already "good", its the deepeth gameplay loop we have ingame :D But yeah, with with Basebuilding, Crafting, etc. the possibilities are endless :D
@sagichdochned absolute it is! I just can't wait to see it have more depth. To give us the Orion and Arrastra and refining gameplay. And to finally give us another gameplay loop that makes it more meaningful.
I'm definitely dreaming. But then Again I've been dreaming of all of this for the past 12 years now 🤣😅
Now that life support is being implemented, physical hull damage might not be too far behind, causing pressurization loss. That would mean the cutter tool would need to be finished to Freeform cut hulls as well. Therefore releasing the legionnaire, but I doubt it.
I don't think we will ever get free form cut through hulls ever since there is a huge gap of nothing between ship hulls and interiors but maybe we can cut through docking collars. For the legionnaire the main thing missing is still hacking
The Maelstrom system is in their dev branch and we're finally hearing about armor, so you could absolutely be right that it's really not long until they implement it.
I’m going to have to put my account information into my will so my grandkids can play. Thought being a Grand Admiral would be nice, but looks like I’ll never actually use the title. 🤦♂️
My expectations are pretty low I doubt I'll waste time watching I will wait for highlights
all i care is base building, more than Pyro, i dont expect the full thing, but atleast some basic base building
I've said it before but your content delivery is top tier.
I appreciate that! 😎
I can bet on that Terra will be in SQ42.
My citizencon predictions are: base building T0 with placeable structures in the pyro system to test lawless building first and foremost with planet tech V5, The next system is NYX and will lead into scanning,data running and exploration along with a goal for Dynamic meshing 1, Tons of new ships ready and at least one concept that prints money, and i wanna hear more about player crafting at least the first implementation.
That would be pretty cool to see
im betting on nyx as well
So my expectations match yours, just with 1 significatant difference.
I expect Stanton > Pyro > Nyx > Magnus > Terra (having in mind that back in the day CR said that for 4.0 we needed "around 4-5 systems").
Its important to have in mind that Magnus has the base of drake, and CIG could then take that opportunity to release the Kraken, which would be very significant for funding. Likewise, they worked on magnus lore not so long ago and it was actually updated just like Pyro was.
I'm not gonna lie, I think I forgot completely about that statement he made. This would be incredible to see and I really hope you're right. I just need to keep my expectations low. I also hope that the economy sees it's way in soon and that they discuss it at CitCon.
One of my previous videos actually talked about the other 3 systems I think will be delivered as part of the first 5. Those 3 were the exact same as what you mentioned: Nyx, Magnus, Terra. It would add a pretty broad variation for systems we could travel to and probably keep us busy for quite a while.
Love the thoughts! And thanks for your comment!
It is very likely that they will show us the jungle biome because they showed us the jungle variant space cow. They put it on Microtech for now but it will be removed in the future, as they mentioned in the ISC... I think Borea is a good candidate to show the jungle biome, it supposedly contains this biome, the system is connected to Stanton and it is a not very big system and rather easy to do. The system is 3AU compared to 5 for Stanton and is only composed of 3 planets: a gas giant, a barren rock and Borea the only real difficulty of the system with its two small Landing Zones Newcastle and Odyssa.
Yeah I actually talked in another video about how I think Magnus will be another of those systems delivered
This is not so much what i want at CC but more kinda updates i hope to get.
Statmap updates ( player markers )
Base Building ( of some kind )
QT ( remove the stupid splines once and for all )
New system *
Rest is just watever.. I played this game far to long to have hopes i just watch and say oohhh .. xD haha Unless im playing it i really mostly just ignore the BS.
There's some info on entity tracking getting a rework to have its own system and not be reliant on the game server. This would allow for improveme to of mission and players markers. Fingers crossed!
The fact you're still saying you're excited in the same breath of saying disappointment lol.
I can be excited about certain events and disappointed about other aspects 🙂
Quit holding my breath years ago
I respect it. They are going to need to prove themselves to a lot of players
BB great featute but boring AF.
There's ways that they could make it less boring. There's a few games that do it really well. I think if they make crafting pretty amazing and involved, that this will be one of the big pulls for base building.