1:30 in the morning. I think that explains most of it. And in a lot of places there are fewer and fewer people to keep watch, as part of cost cutting measures.
Not to mention that it wasn't Canada's fault for a railcar in the US to begin to travel toward Canada. The response time is, but the railcar isn't Canada's fault as I see it. With that said, others are sure to have other opinions and I might be wrong, but this is my current view on it.
"Questioning response times of Canadian authorities"? What were they expected to respond to? Make an arrest of the offending rail car? And then the US Border cop says "Our agents were there on time, we looked and nothing across in the area" Obviously they got there too late! More media wank!
+IsettasRock Maybe because Canada isn't concerned about a car but if it were to go from Canada to the US, the US would have drawn guns and shut down the border for several weeks while an investigation took place.
IsettasRock technically, at the time nobody knew it was a rail car. It could of been a bomber for all they knew. AND if someone is running across a boarder bridge, no one is going to get there fast enough to see it happening. I blame CSX for letting someone for vandalizing There yard, and Canadian boarder patrol for the slow response
Canadian Border Service Agency responded in a recent statement: “ Look we maybe overlooked one rail car crossing the border unattended, how about you guys doing on your southern border?”
Downhill to Canada 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 And, yet we are up North 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Let me think of this one 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔.. Oh hell, who cares?! One fricken runaway train car! I feel like singing, "My Little Runaway" 😀😀😀😀😀😀 PS...we get to keep the Yankee car 😀
You've got to be kidding, as soon as they said that it rolled by itself I knew exactly what this was. Is a very high chance that someone could use something like that to cross the border illegally, maybe not so much just to get into the country themselves, but maybe they're trying to smuggle something. I love how dense you people are.
Mexico depends on the USA, most Mexicans working here illegally send the money back to Mexico. Thats a truth, it has nothing to do with racism. This nation, or any other nation's economy is not designed to harbor people who pay no taxes, leach the free clinics and disrupt small companies that have to pay workers who have FICA taken out of pay. If a wall is built (and im not for it) people will have a harder time invading the USA. If you would like to have a peaceful conversation about it, i'm all for it.
Canadians: "Oh look, a railcar's rolled over from the US side" "What time is it?" "5" "Yeah, we'll deal with it tomorrow". Americans: "AHHHHH! Go to DEFCON 1"
chumbuckery777 I don't believe this at all and would ask you to give some evidence to cite your claim. People have gone from America to Canada for healthcare for decades. I shudder to think why someone would come the other way (unless they had the cash...)
CSX guy: what happen if this car comes loose? Ohter CSX guy: well, lets try, see what happen. CXS guy: okay, there you go... .... Two CSX guys wistling dixy.....
That's nothing. One time a few of my railway coaches went missing for months on end and I had no idea where they went until I found them in an old box under the Christmas decorations in November.
Americans: lol you Canadians don't have very good border security do ya? Canadians: *looks at Southern US border* Americans: HEY DON'T LOOK THERE WHAT THE FUCK MAN
so, the rail car was in America, and for whatever reason, it got loose in America, and rolled down 2 miles of track most of that being in America....America's solution, blame Canada....sounds about right....
+chuckufarly5 Nobody "blamed" Canada for anything. Canada is the one who questioned their part of the rail system as to why they had no indication a runaway railcar crossed their border without any indication. But hey, if Canada doesn't care they were absolutely CLUELESS about a runaway railcar entering their country then don't whine just because the USA asks a legitimate question as to why you didn't know about it. Fix your system or don't... it's your choice.
foskten10 ya, but we yet again, had to deal with one of YOUR fuck ups, its not that big of a deal anyways, its 1 car, i think an autorack? if something this small bothers you this much, did you say something to those guys at the yard eh? the guards there most likely dealing with another stray polar bear. or were out of maple syrup and had to pop down to the shop, and maybe decided to grab some timmies to eh.
+foskten10 Wow are you dumb. Canada sure did know about it when it happened. I was working that night and my boss knew about it right away. Typical american overreacting and arrogance.
I'm an American and proud of it, proud enough and man enough to admit it's our fault. The Canadians wouldn't have had to worry about a "response time" if we hadn't messed up in the first place.
Bunny Warren Sorry: Africa, The Americas, Antarctica, Asia, Australia / Oceania and Europe are considered to be 'The Continents'. The term continent is used to differentiate between the various large areas of the Earth into which the land surface is divided. So, a continent is loosely seen as: "A large contiguous area of land on Earth".
Meh... We didn't care enough to go 'chasing' rail cars, wasn't ours anyhow. lol We're Canadian's, not golden retrievers. :D You could have at least made sure it was stocked full of something valuable before sending it over to us. Jesh.
You Canadians probably thought, "Oh, hey, a railroad car. We'll get it sometime, due to it not being a pressing matter. It's not like its going to disappear, right?"
hey americans work on your security before you come after us, just how did vandals go unnoticed in a freaking railway yard, uncoupling a car, it surly didnt uncouple it's self did it?
xTheCanadianx hey dummy. Haven't you fuckin canooks figured it out eh. It's not about security. It's about the money and restricting our rights. No government agency will admit their faults either. Kind of like my canadian dispatcher eh.
DajjaD oh really and if it was American vandals which i can bet my money you guys are straight fucked you never see no world star videos from canada you never see us just acting black in the hoods and fucking up everyone no what you see is shit we keep our composure unlike your side of America nuff said here
1. The Canadian side does not feature boarder guards waiting in cars on the edge of the bridge 2. The station is only used twice...once in the morning and once in the evening. No one works here so there's no one to report it.
This was no accident. We want your beer, your back-bacon and your women who do not get cold when the thermostat is set to 72*F. We run a train into Canada daily and abscond with all of those in epic proportions... and if the women have epic proportions: so much the better! :D Yes - we are sneaking away with all that is dear to our Canadian neighbors. Except Les Stroud. He eats bugs.
YEARS AGO ON THE AT&SF LINE BETWEEN DODGE CITY KS AND HUTCHISON A BOX CAR GOT AWAY AND ROLLED 70 MILES EASTWARD! THO ONLY WAY IT WAS DETECTED WAS DUE TO AN STATION AGENT WORKING LATE ONE EVNING DOING PAPERWORK, AND HE THOUGHT THE CAR ROLLED BY AND WENT OUT TO LOOK! FORTUNATLY IT WAS A BRIGHT MOONLIGHT NIGHT AND HE WAS ABLE TO SEE IT DISAPPEARING IN THE DISTANCE! THE CAR WAS A NEW ROLLER BEARING CAR SO IT DIDNT MAKE MUCH NOISE, AND THERE WAS A VERY STRONG WEST WIND PROPELLING THE CAR AS WELL! IT WAS DUE TO SOMEONE FAILING TO SET A HAND BRAKE OR SOMEONE MALICIOUSLY RELEASING THE HANDBRAKE!
Wait, wait, wait the carriage rolls out of the United States and the biggest concern is the Canadian response? Why wasn't the car derailed through catch points protecting the mainline?
Typical american journalism. Blame everyone but your own people. Why didn't the US side alert the Canadian side about this alarm? I thought they were working together? And how did somebody get into the yard to release the car? Why don't you ask those questions?
King of Spite our urban brothers like painting all the cars so it happens all the time and it's never a problem in the US. We've bigger fish to fry, till this happened. Now things are different.
This came in my "recommend to you" list so just watched it. Since it was considered vandalism someone must've uncoupled and released the handbrakes for it to happen. Someone had to have snuck some items/person(s) across the border [they said the autorack was empty] counting on the fact the time of morning it was would be the best chance to not be noticed immediately. Highly doubt someone did it just for shits and giggles.
It was a accident this happens alot. Living near a yard before its not to common to be at a crossing just for a train car to mozzy its way through. CSX is absolutely just trying to save face by calling it vandalism and the large chance is? This was a oil car because thats all that is ever in that yard. Clearly the news made it to something it isnt as pulling this off requires thousands of dollars of equipment
This is fishy too me because rail yard are under security surveillance 24 hours so it’s hard to believe this was vandalism. Some crew member didn’t do there job and let a rail car roll down into Canada. Plus the way a rail cars brakes work is each car has a small air tank all the cars tanks are air up by the locomotives if a rail car starts to roll out of control the brakes are applied. Unless the tanks are not aired up then you have to stop the car by hand using the wheel on each car to manually brake them. So the car that rolled down the track had to have had no air in its tank so no brakes that means someone let the air out. So either someone purposely did it if so the employee should be fired or the car was sitting in the yard for awhile and it wasn’t aired up. Either way a crew member did not do there job.
Interesting that the Default Setting on the Railway Switching Gear is Canada, rather than America. Had it been Set for America, the runaway Railway Carriage would never have crossed the Bridge.
The railyard appears to be for processing trans border cargo, so that's probably why it was set like that. They could push the trains into Canada so American crews (csx) wouldn't actually enter Canada. But that's only my guess on how it works
How did it roll away in the first place? I thought modern rolling stock would have airbrakes that make it come to a stop the moment it disconnects from the train...
the real question is whether or not the track was a main line track with active rail traffic going on it.. I mean, if it's just some oversized freight yard where movement rarely happens, a runaway car isn't likely to be hitting traffic so it's not that big a deal..
I'm thinking Broad Daylight this all happened. But once they mentioned it was at night... I figured eh Just imagine: Gates go down, lights flash at a crossing... single rail car slowly screeches on by, gates go up...
Hmmm...something does seem off here. This should never happen under normal circumstances. For starts, that car should have air brakes. It damn as hell should. Air brakes work like this: A brake hose/pipe is connected from the locomotive to the rest of the train. This brake pipe feeds pressurized air to the entire train. The brakes themselves are pressurized, and can only be lifted (brakes removed) if the air pressure is high enough to prevent the 'weights' from activating a fool-proof mechanism that allows for the brake to come down on the wheel (the weight is really the brake itself, but I'm trying to simplify the explanation here for those that are new to what I'm explaining...) When an engineer wants the brakes off, he cranks up the air pressure, which forces the weights up, and releases the brakes. When an engineer wants the brakes on, he pulls the brake lever in the cab. This in turn reduces the pressure the engine feeds the cars the amount the lever has been pulled. The reduction in pressure will cause the weights to drop, thus forcing the brakes on slightly or allows them to clamp down (this depends on the air brake lever's position and if the emergency brake is active or not). If at any point along the train does an air hose leak or even burst, then the air will leak out. This causes a chain reaction. The brakes are forced on, first softly, but quickly and progressively increases the brake force until it the brake is clamped down all the way, which guarantees the stop of a train. The brakes cannot be lifted unless the pressure is increased once more, or -in rare occasions- the air tanks on the car[s] are emptied, but I'll get to that in a moment. An emergency brake works a little differently. Should the driver pull the emergency brake, regardless as to how much brake force is currently being applied, the engine drops all air pressure being sent along the train. This causes the weights to drop nearly in an instant, and the brakes clamp down hard and nasty. The train -while still taking a lot of time to stop- stops much quicker, but at the cost of flat wheels, dislodged cargo, among other things. As such, this brake is only used in emergencies (hence the name). In fact, sometimes when the emergency brake is pulled, it actually doesn't allow the car's air pressure to be released. This often happens when a brake slams too hard a wheel. When this happens, sometimes the weight itself can get jammed, and re-adding air pressure does no good. Even if only one car is effected, this prevents nearly every other car on the train to move as well. The reason for this is more so of a safety mechanism. Often a mechanic is needed to be brought in so as to fix the brake and/or it's weight, which then allows the train to once again be able to turn off its brakes. In some cases, be it a mechanic is not available or some other reason, the brake can be forced off. Each car has its own air tanks. As stated before, they work by applying pressure to the weights, thus allow the brakes on. On all trains as well as train cars, the tanks have air valves. These valves control the air pressure. Normally, the only time one of these valves are turned is at the end car. This is so that it acts as a plug, as a lack of car behind it means the air pressure would leak otherwise. These air tanks are also used when the pressure drops and cannot be brought back up, as it prevents movement. However, sometimes these valves are turned to allow the train to move without proper pressure, but this is done rarely. Why? Well, releasing the air from the air tanks removes the remaining air pressure. This means the remaining pressure on the weights is removed, unlocking the brakes. However, because there is no brake pressure that allowed the brakes to be released to start with, there is none to refill the tanks, which is really an automatic process should the pressure be released from the tanks. But with no pressure whatsoever, the brakes are forced off, and cannot be turned back on. This actually is the reason runaways happen; a lack of any pressure to keep the brakes on. Although if the brake came down too hard when the emergency brake was pulled and the brake is jammed, this sort of process is harmless. However, only mechanics are properly trained to ensure this be correct, as these sort of failures are rare to start with. If the brake was jammed and the tanks are empty, as soon as they are the pressure resumes through out the rest of the train. Although it takes a few minutes, 'excess' air is pumped from the air feed into the now empty tanks, thus refilling them and making the car workable again. Even so, as previously stated, only mechanics can do this properly. There have been cases in which the brakes jammed on a car, the crew released the brakes, and went a good amount down the journey with no problem. Then, suddenly, the brakes fail to come on. This is usually the result of the valve used to release the air being forgotten about or not being properly resealed. This in turn can lead to an air pipe leak, and the pressure in the tank is non-existent. As a result, it doesn't trigger the brakes. Now I know what you're thinking: wouldn't the remaining cars have their brakes still working fine? The answer is yes. But air pipes are one-way feeds. So if you have a 42 car train with the brakes applied, but car 7 is leaking air, then you are only getting braking power from the first *6* cars, along with the locomotive's own brakes. Because the rest of the train has full air tanks, these can be only be triggered by a drop in air pressure. But because the car in front does not have air to trigger it's brakes, and the main-pipeline is leaking, there is no way to drop the pressure any further in the 7th car. Because the pressure in car 7 is non-existent, the brakes are impossible to trigger. Car 8 can only receive the drop in pressure if the valve is shut. But with the valve open, the system is treated as a 7 car train, but with only 6 cars being able to brake. Normally, a single car unable to brake isn't a huge deal, hence the fact the end car needs the valve opened to prevent the remaining train from halting. But in this case, it is you have a train of 42 cars being treated as only 7 car train. The problem is this: under this system just stated, the runaway rail car should have had brakes turned on. Unless the air tanks had been emptied, the car should have stayed put. So what happened? It does seem like something went wrong here. This has been another typing-session brought to you by tonyfan00, aka the guy who writes novels instead of simple comments.
If it was in a yard (which was where the car escaped from), chances are the air brakes were not active at the time because they are not usually left charged when a train is standing and not attached to a locomotive. This puts reliance on the car handbrakes, which should be perfectly OK to keep the cars standing...providing whoever sets them does the job properly. Problem is, setting each car's handbrakes requires the guy doing it to get up on the car, turn the brake wheel goodness-knows-how-many times and climb down to do the same on the next one, so small blame to him if he only sets the brakes on enough cars to stop the train from moving. Suppose then some other guy, for some reason or another, uncouples the car at the end of the train from the others, and suppose that the car at the end of the train didn't have its handbrakes set because it WAS coupled to the cars that did have their handbrakes applied. Under these circumstances, the uncoupled car could then easily escape.
And CLEARLY it was your own fault once again, CSX! Man, am I glad I've changed my mind about working for those guys! Their safety, performance, and delivery records are terrible!
The railcar told reporters he was tired of living under his American railroads authoritarian rule and ran away to Canada for free railcar repair and Canadian railway citizenship.
On a rail car, air pressure must be applied to "pump off" the brakes and allow the car to roll. Otherwise, a handwheel may be turned to manually release the brakes ... which may be what happened here, triggered by some vandals. The default condition of a disconnected rail car's brakes is APPLIED FIRMLY and they don't just roll unattended. Fewer than 5% of you are aware of that fact and stories of rail cars coming loose from trains and rolling merrily along behind have been told for years. The truth is that once you break that air line to that car, its brakes come on full force and the car stops ... and you can't budge the damned thing until you pump off the brakes again.
Sorry but you got a lot of things wrong in your statements. You need to brush up the mechanics of braking systems of trains and standing rail cars. Cheers!
+Harpo Marx The brakes come on in an emergency application if the air line is disrupted but the air in the freight cars own tank only lasts so long. It can also be bled off manually which is what might have happened here.
Don't the American border authorities have a telephone? They knew a railcar got loose and crossed the border, but they didn't give Canada a call and say "Hey, have an eye out for our railcar"?
Some people do not understand freight cars or trains for that matter. When a car by itself rolls out of a rail yard, that can only happen when the knuckle on the coupler is opened. If the whole train was not tied down, the entire line of freight cars would have rolled out of the yard. Such an event happened in Texas back in the late 90s. I do not remember the exact date or year. Union Pacific's Inglewood Yard in Houston sits atop a small hill. Train crews have to set all the brakes before disconnecting the locomotives from the train. The entire train minus the locomotives hurled down the hill at almost 50 mph and slammed into a parked UP freight, injuring the crew of that waiting train and caused millions of dollars worth of damages to equipment and infrastructure. For this news reel, someone lifted coupler left bar to separate the car from the rest of the train. Hence, CSX says it was vandalism. Before 9-11, railroad fans could go into the yards and talk to engineers and even climb inside locomotive cabs. I was one of those. Now that us rail fans need security clearances to even photograph or film trains, for someone other than a railroad employee to venture into a rail yard unnoticed is concern for CSX.
lol funny how it is canadians fault for not getting there quick enough... oh wait were another country we can do what we want, we dont have to check it if we dont feel like it, regardless of how much americans dislike it
Did you not listen to the video? CSX said the incident was "..being treated as an act of vandalism.." How do you reconcile that with you damn stupid comment?
ghettohillbilly1 Oh, come on. Obviously nobody is blaming Canada for the incident. The criticism focuses on the slowness to respond. American agents informed the Canadian side of the situation almost immediately. The slow response to that is entirely your own. We can't cross into Canada to check it out ourselves.
Hey I’m British! So I’m the World and it ain’t Canada’s fault! But we have a saying - Made a mountain out of a molehill! Just about sums it up! The only concern is somebody could have got hurt with the runaway car by accident rather than blame Canada! But Stupid is as (or what) stupid does!
The least you could have done is showing the damn car !
It must of been a trick! By the American s...the government that is....just to blame the Canadians again!!
Yeah! Where's the proof here?
They kept trying to show it but it kept running away!
I forgot how much I hate TV news.(stock footage, telephone interviews, talking heads) Thanks for reminding me!
1:30 in the morning.
I think that explains most of it.
And in a lot of places there are fewer and fewer people to keep watch, as part of cost cutting measures.
Not to mention that it wasn't Canada's fault for a railcar in the US to begin to travel toward Canada. The response time is, but the railcar isn't Canada's fault as I see it. With that said, others are sure to have other opinions and I might be wrong, but this is my current view on it.
Let me get this straight..the problem begins on the U.S side but the Canadians are to blame....
+Trev Mac ...Is that not standard and why so many people hate us, always blame Canada!
+Trev Mac Isn't that a blatant attack on sovereign soil??
+Stephen Harper That's sarcasm by the way...
Canada was supposed to build a wall to keep us out :-)
+Len Martin , What? The train went into canada.
There's no reaction quite like an over reaction😜🍻
Thank you.
Someone working at a real life news company could not be bothered to type out the word “hours” in their title. What a time to be alive.
holy cow! im surprised this didnt lead to an international incident! glad this news station was on its toes !
IRK!? it was almost global thermonuclear war!!!
Muricans would have deployed an army and airforce for sure
He crossed over for some good health care. And less shootings. Come to Canada everyone! It's awesome over here!
Lmfao, can't take a joke?
I didn't mean for this to become an argument, it's just a harmless joke people...
._.
shhhhh don't spoil our secrets!
Oh shit run!
"Questioning response times of Canadian authorities"? What were they expected to respond to? Make an arrest of the offending rail car? And then the US Border cop says "Our agents were there on time, we looked and nothing across in the area" Obviously they got there too late!
More media wank!
+IsettasRock Maybe because Canada isn't concerned about a car but if it were to go from Canada to the US, the US would have drawn guns and shut down the border for several weeks while an investigation took place.
pretty much
IsettasRock technically, at the time nobody knew it was a rail car. It could of been a bomber for all they knew. AND if someone is running across a boarder bridge, no one is going to get there fast enough to see it happening. I blame CSX for letting someone for vandalizing There yard, and Canadian boarder patrol for the slow response
Canadian Border Service Agency responded in a recent statement: “ Look we maybe overlooked one rail car crossing the border unattended, how about you guys doing on your southern border?”
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What's concerning to me is that it's down hill to Canada
thought I was the only one trying to process that
The matrix is funny that way
Downhill to Canada 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 And, yet we are up North 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Let me think of this one 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔..
Oh hell, who cares?! One fricken runaway train car!
I feel like singing, "My Little Runaway" 😀😀😀😀😀😀
PS...we get to keep the Yankee car 😀
Should have loaded it with maple syrup and sent it back .
+Eaton Fuller That would have been *sweet*
+Peter “Crackpot Pete” Carlson
You just had to, didn't you?
Element of Kindness sure did!
Hahaha!! Beer and bacon too!
Oh help, "national security". Maybe the Canadians knew it was a rail car all along and didn't bother creaming their pants over it.
Pretty much. I’m all for secure borders, but my southern neighbours take it to extremes.
@@oilersridersbluejays this comment was 5 years ago
And this is why I love TH-cam!
You've got to be kidding, as soon as they said that it rolled by itself I knew exactly what this was.
Is a very high chance that someone could use something like that to cross the border illegally, maybe not so much just to get into the country themselves, but maybe they're trying to smuggle something.
I love how dense you people are.
@@locklear308 90% of our border is unsecured forest, why would anyone go to that extreme?
Good grief people, CA and US are good neighbors, had this been Mexico.....
Ya ya, then Donald be hollarin
Mexico depends on the USA, most Mexicans working here illegally send the money back to Mexico.
Thats a truth, it has nothing to do with racism.
This nation, or any other nation's economy is not designed to harbor people who pay no taxes, leach the free clinics and disrupt small companies that have to pay workers who have FICA taken out of pay.
If a wall is built (and im not for it) people will have a harder time invading the USA.
If you would like to have a peaceful conversation about it, i'm all for it.
CAN and USA used to be good neighbors.
Canadians:
"Oh look, a railcar's rolled over from the US side"
"What time is it?"
"5"
"Yeah, we'll deal with it tomorrow".
Americans:
"AHHHHH! Go to DEFCON 1"
😂😂😂😂 literally
Americans quick to blame Canadians but they are the ones that let a rail car roll into Canada
Maybe railway car was was tired of living in US? LOL.
Antoninus Pius LOL
Antoninus Pius "Screw this I'm going to Canad- Crap I tripped the sensor!"
Those silly Troublesome Trucks.
The Robby King lol Thomas The Train reference
+The Robby King "Trucks"????
Poor thing was just trying to get access to some decent health care.
LMFreak'nHO!!!
chumbuckery777 I don't believe this at all and would ask you to give some evidence to cite your claim. People have gone from America to Canada for healthcare for decades. I shudder to think why someone would come the other way (unless they had the cash...)
Too bad it ended up waiting six months ;(
zspolson didnt get it here, that's why I go to the US, I'm on a waiting list in Toronto for thevlast 6 months.
mistermodified1 we do.
CSX guy: what happen if this car comes loose?
Ohter CSX guy: well, lets try, see what happen.
CXS guy: okay, there you go...
.... Two CSX guys wistling dixy.....
Wow, nonissue. Empty railcar rolls safely to a stop on the other end of a border railyard. BFD.
That's nothing. One time a few of my railway coaches went missing for months on end and I had no idea where they went until I found them in an old box under the Christmas decorations in November.
no actual video, right? just a bunch of people talking.
Americans: lol you Canadians don't have very good border security do ya?
Canadians: *looks at Southern US border*
Americans: HEY DON'T LOOK THERE WHAT THE FUCK MAN
I'm impressed a rail car could travel that distance unpowered, myself.
That is impressive. Must have been the perfect incline, and maybe wind helped too.
once something that heavy builds up momentum it can travel at quite some speed
The rails must of been oiled reaaaal gooood 🤨
Rail car: rolls down track from the US to Canada.
Americans: OMG a border breach!
Canadians: OMG a runaway rail car!
Biden says that’s okay
ISIS did it
AFB - scramble a couple of F-16’s and dispatch unidentified rail car!
CSX screwing up things again.
Dude leave the rail car alone its been pulled and pushed at all its life its time for it to feel free for once 🤣🤣🤣🤣
so, the rail car was in America, and for whatever reason, it got loose in America, and rolled down 2 miles of track most of that being in America....America's solution, blame Canada....sounds about right....
+chuckufarly5 Nobody "blamed" Canada for anything. Canada is the one who questioned their part of the rail system as to why they had no indication a runaway railcar crossed their border without any indication. But hey, if Canada doesn't care they were absolutely CLUELESS about a runaway railcar entering their country then don't whine just because the USA asks a legitimate question as to why you didn't know about it. Fix your system or don't... it's your choice.
foskten10 ya, but we yet again, had to deal with one of YOUR fuck ups, its not that big of a deal anyways, its 1 car, i think an autorack? if something this small bothers you this much, did you say something to those guys at the yard eh? the guards there most likely dealing with another stray polar bear. or were out of maple syrup and had to pop down to the shop, and maybe decided to grab some timmies to eh.
+foskten10 Wow are you dumb. Canada sure did know about it when it happened. I was working that night and my boss knew about it right away. Typical american overreacting and arrogance.
Blame Canada! in my South Park voice lol
clearl the fault of america, but the new reporters try to hang it on the canadians
I'm an American and proud of it, proud enough and man enough to admit it's our fault. The Canadians wouldn't have had to worry about a "response time" if we hadn't messed up in the first place.
Local News Channel short of news so makes up a huge American something out of a Canadian nothing.
You do realize America is a continent right? It's divided into 2 sections, north and south, Canada being in the northern section.......
Patrick Parsons North America is a continent, so is South America. "America" is not a continent but a landmass of the continents combined.
Bunny Warren
Sorry: Africa, The Americas, Antarctica, Asia, Australia / Oceania and Europe are considered to be 'The Continents'. The term continent is used to differentiate between the various large areas of the Earth into which the land surface is divided. So, a continent is loosely seen as: "A large contiguous area of land on Earth".
Meh... We didn't care enough to go 'chasing' rail cars, wasn't ours anyhow. lol
We're Canadian's, not golden retrievers. :D
You could have at least made sure it was stocked full of something valuable before sending it over to us. Jesh.
YEAH LAZY SLEEPING CANADIANS NEVER MIND THAT ALARM HOSER ,GOOD JOB WATCHING YOUR SIDE DAAAAA!!!!!
You Canadians probably thought, "Oh, hey, a railroad car. We'll get it sometime, due to it not being a pressing matter. It's not like its going to disappear, right?"
What would trouble me is travelling on that stretch of track. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the low-level views!
It was trying to get away. The Canadians should have granted it asylum.
OMG!!! The sky is falling!!!
This international incident needs to be made into a CBC movie of the week.
An alarm tripped on our side. Just goes to show how hard we're working to keep those crazy Canucks out. :3
hey americans work on your security before you come after us, just how did vandals go unnoticed in a freaking railway yard, uncoupling a car, it surly didnt uncouple it's self did it?
its canadas fault for not noticing the vandals
xTheCanadianx hey dummy. Haven't you fuckin canooks figured it out eh. It's not about security. It's about the money and restricting our rights. No government agency will admit their faults either. Kind of like my canadian dispatcher eh.
xTheCanadianx oh i love this comment fuckin eh buds
Ziggy Fry yo fuck you bro come at us il meet you down on them tracks
DajjaD oh really and if it was American vandals which i can bet my money you guys are straight fucked you never see no world star videos from canada you never see us just acting black in the hoods and fucking up everyone no what you see is shit we keep our composure unlike your side of America nuff said here
it was part of the swayze express
So it went 2 miles in a few hours. Thats why noone noticed, because it was traveling at like 1 mile an hour
Until it was on the Canadian side, then it was going 2 *kilometers* per hour!
It traveled 2 miles stopped and wasnt noticed for 2 hours after it stopped....
lol never thought about that lol good one
@@deltaray3 That made me laugh out loud!
@Adolf Hitler hi hitler
Why am I just now getting recommended this almost a decade later?😆
youtube.
1. The Canadian side does not feature boarder guards waiting in cars on the edge of the bridge
2. The station is only used twice...once in the morning and once in the evening. No one works here so there's no one to report it.
i blame the Trailer Park Boys for this, someone call mr. lahey
Haha!! This is a good one! 😂😂😂😂
I looked up ‘Boring and Irrelevant low-brow shock-horror cheap petty journalism’ and this came up top of the list.
"NIAGRA FALLS......."s l o w l y i turn, step-by step, inch-by-inch" hahahaha ( by the 3-Stooges )
Moe!
I thought it was Abbot and Costello.
Perhaps one of 'The Stooges' absolute best...
It should be arrested immediately and deported back to the USA!! Build that wall!! Oh, what? Wrong border?
Love this TV newsreader's leering attitude.
WTF they are blaming only Canadian Border Patrol? Americans didn't notice that railcar is missing?
Grass was greener on the Canadian side. :) so it rolled onto the wild side 🤣
1 rail car?
whatevs, eh?
This was no accident. We want your beer, your back-bacon and your women who do not get cold when the thermostat is set to 72*F. We run a train into Canada daily and abscond with all of those in epic proportions... and if the women have epic proportions: so much the better! :D
Yes - we are sneaking away with all that is dear to our Canadian neighbors. Except Les Stroud. He eats bugs.
Dwayne what you dont like LES STROUD hes bomb diggity bro dont hate him hate the beaver or the damn crows we have that fuck up our backyard garbages
YEARS AGO ON THE AT&SF LINE BETWEEN
DODGE CITY KS AND HUTCHISON A BOX CAR GOT AWAY
AND ROLLED 70 MILES EASTWARD! THO ONLY WAY IT WAS DETECTED WAS DUE TO AN STATION AGENT
WORKING LATE ONE EVNING DOING PAPERWORK, AND HE THOUGHT THE CAR ROLLED BY AND WENT OUT TO LOOK!
FORTUNATLY IT WAS A BRIGHT MOONLIGHT
NIGHT AND HE WAS ABLE TO SEE IT DISAPPEARING IN THE DISTANCE!
THE CAR WAS A NEW ROLLER BEARING
CAR SO IT DIDNT MAKE MUCH NOISE,
AND THERE WAS A VERY STRONG WEST WIND PROPELLING THE CAR AS WELL!
IT WAS DUE TO SOMEONE FAILING TO SET A HAND BRAKE OR SOMEONE MALICIOUSLY
RELEASING THE HANDBRAKE!
Wait, wait, wait the carriage rolls out of the United States and the biggest concern is the Canadian response? Why wasn't the car derailed through catch points protecting the mainline?
CSX... of course.
Just imagine if it was the other way around! America would probably be screaming "Terrorism"!
It came from the US.
But if you try to DRIVE into Canada, with a legitimate driver's license and passport, they'll dismantle your car.
Typical american journalism. Blame everyone but your own people. Why didn't the US side alert the Canadian side about this alarm? I thought they were working together? And how did somebody get into the yard to release the car? Why don't you ask those questions?
100% True
They DID alert them. That's why it is a big deal. Canada's border security sucks.
King of Spite our urban brothers like painting all the cars so it happens all the time and it's never a problem in the US. We've bigger fish to fry, till this happened. Now things are different.
That animation is *chef's kiss* awesome.
Just go get the rail car, jeez!!!!!
Lessons to be learned
This came in my "recommend to you" list so just watched it. Since it was considered vandalism someone must've uncoupled and released the handbrakes for it to happen. Someone had to have snuck some items/person(s) across the border [they said the autorack was empty] counting on the fact the time of morning it was would be the best chance to not be noticed immediately. Highly doubt someone did it just for shits and giggles.
It was a accident this happens alot. Living near a yard before its not to common to be at a crossing just for a train car to mozzy its way through. CSX is absolutely just trying to save face by calling it vandalism and the large chance is? This was a oil car because thats all that is ever in that yard. Clearly the news made it to something it isnt as pulling this off requires thousands of dollars of equipment
@@wackyotter1235 👍
This is fishy too me because rail yard are under security surveillance 24 hours so it’s hard to believe this was vandalism. Some crew member didn’t do there job and let a rail car roll down into Canada. Plus the way a rail cars brakes work is each car has a small air tank all the cars tanks are air up by the locomotives if a rail car starts to roll out of control the brakes are applied. Unless the tanks are not aired up then you have to stop the car by hand using the wheel on each car to manually brake them. So the car that rolled down the track had to have had no air in its tank so no brakes that means someone let the air out. So either someone purposely did it if so the employee should be fired or the car was sitting in the yard for awhile and it wasn’t aired up. Either way a crew member did not do there job.
"Act of vandalism"... translation: It's not OUR fault that there's a train running across the border...
*Rail Car Passes Through Border*
"NOTHING TO SEE HERE NOPE NUH-UH JUST AN AVERAGE RAIL CAR HERE"
Interesting that the Default Setting on the Railway Switching Gear is Canada, rather than America.
Had it been Set for America, the runaway Railway Carriage would never have crossed the Bridge.
The railyard appears to be for processing trans border cargo, so that's probably why it was set like that. They could push the trains into Canada so American crews (csx) wouldn't actually enter Canada. But that's only my guess on how it works
How did it roll away in the first place? I thought modern rolling stock would have airbrakes that make it come to a stop the moment it disconnects from the train...
did they not set the hand brake?
Maybe some kids released it. Little shits.
On! On! On! Faster! Faster! Faster! Said the naughty rail car.
Jeez must be a slow day in the news room; BFD.
The needed people knew about it already.
It wasn't in the CSX yard, it was on one of the mainline tracks, tied down for about 2 months
unstoppable
the real question is whether or not the track was a main line track with active rail traffic going on it.. I mean, if it's just some oversized freight yard where movement rarely happens, a runaway car isn't likely to be hitting traffic so it's not that big a deal..
Sounds like some one didn't apply the handlers or set a derailer.
I'm thinking Broad Daylight this all happened. But once they mentioned it was at night... I figured eh
Just imagine: Gates go down, lights flash at a crossing... single rail car slowly screeches on by, gates go up...
Hmmm...something does seem off here. This should never happen under normal circumstances.
For starts, that car should have air brakes. It damn as hell should. Air brakes work like this: A brake hose/pipe is connected from the locomotive to the rest of the train. This brake pipe feeds pressurized air to the entire train. The brakes themselves are pressurized, and can only be lifted (brakes removed) if the air pressure is high enough to prevent the 'weights' from activating a fool-proof mechanism that allows for the brake to come down on the wheel (the weight is really the brake itself, but I'm trying to simplify the explanation here for those that are new to what I'm explaining...)
When an engineer wants the brakes off, he cranks up the air pressure, which forces the weights up, and releases the brakes.
When an engineer wants the brakes on, he pulls the brake lever in the cab. This in turn reduces the pressure the engine feeds the cars the amount the lever has been pulled. The reduction in pressure will cause the weights to drop, thus forcing the brakes on slightly or allows them to clamp down (this depends on the air brake lever's position and if the emergency brake is active or not).
If at any point along the train does an air hose leak or even burst, then the air will leak out. This causes a chain reaction. The brakes are forced on, first softly, but quickly and progressively increases the brake force until it the brake is clamped down all the way, which guarantees the stop of a train. The brakes cannot be lifted unless the pressure is increased once more, or -in rare occasions- the air tanks on the car[s] are emptied, but I'll get to that in a moment.
An emergency brake works a little differently. Should the driver pull the emergency brake, regardless as to how much brake force is currently being applied, the engine drops all air pressure being sent along the train. This causes the weights to drop nearly in an instant, and the brakes clamp down hard and nasty. The train -while still taking a lot of time to stop- stops much quicker, but at the cost of flat wheels, dislodged cargo, among other things. As such, this brake is only used in emergencies (hence the name). In fact, sometimes when the emergency brake is pulled, it actually doesn't allow the car's air pressure to be released. This often happens when a brake slams too hard a wheel. When this happens, sometimes the weight itself can get jammed, and re-adding air pressure does no good. Even if only one car is effected, this prevents nearly every other car on the train to move as well. The reason for this is more so of a safety mechanism. Often a mechanic is needed to be brought in so as to fix the brake and/or it's weight, which then allows the train to once again be able to turn off its brakes.
In some cases, be it a mechanic is not available or some other reason, the brake can be forced off.
Each car has its own air tanks. As stated before, they work by applying pressure to the weights, thus allow the brakes on. On all trains as well as train cars, the tanks have air valves. These valves control the air pressure. Normally, the only time one of these valves are turned is at the end car. This is so that it acts as a plug, as a lack of car behind it means the air pressure would leak otherwise. These air tanks are also used when the pressure drops and cannot be brought back up, as it prevents movement. However, sometimes these valves are turned to allow the train to move without proper pressure, but this is done rarely. Why? Well, releasing the air from the air tanks removes the remaining air pressure. This means the remaining pressure on the weights is removed, unlocking the brakes. However, because there is no brake pressure that allowed the brakes to be released to start with, there is none to refill the tanks, which is really an automatic process should the pressure be released from the tanks. But with no pressure whatsoever, the brakes are forced off, and cannot be turned back on. This actually is the reason runaways happen; a lack of any pressure to keep the brakes on. Although if the brake came down too hard when the emergency brake was pulled and the brake is jammed, this sort of process is harmless. However, only mechanics are properly trained to ensure this be correct, as these sort of failures are rare to start with. If the brake was jammed and the tanks are empty, as soon as they are the pressure resumes through out the rest of the train. Although it takes a few minutes, 'excess' air is pumped from the air feed into the now empty tanks, thus refilling them and making the car workable again. Even so, as previously stated, only mechanics can do this properly.
There have been cases in which the brakes jammed on a car, the crew released the brakes, and went a good amount down the journey with no problem. Then, suddenly, the brakes fail to come on. This is usually the result of the valve used to release the air being forgotten about or not being properly resealed. This in turn can lead to an air pipe leak, and the pressure in the tank is non-existent. As a result, it doesn't trigger the brakes. Now I know what you're thinking: wouldn't the remaining cars have their brakes still working fine? The answer is yes. But air pipes are one-way feeds. So if you have a 42 car train with the brakes applied, but car 7 is leaking air, then you are only getting braking power from the first *6* cars, along with the locomotive's own brakes. Because the rest of the train has full air tanks, these can be only be triggered by a drop in air pressure. But because the car in front does not have air to trigger it's brakes, and the main-pipeline is leaking, there is no way to drop the pressure any further in the 7th car. Because the pressure in car 7 is non-existent, the brakes are impossible to trigger. Car 8 can only receive the drop in pressure if the valve is shut. But with the valve open, the system is treated as a 7 car train, but with only 6 cars being able to brake. Normally, a single car unable to brake isn't a huge deal, hence the fact the end car needs the valve opened to prevent the remaining train from halting. But in this case, it is you have a train of 42 cars being treated as only 7 car train.
The problem is this: under this system just stated, the runaway rail car should have had brakes turned on. Unless the air tanks had been emptied, the car should have stayed put. So what happened? It does seem like something went wrong here.
This has been another typing-session brought to you by tonyfan00, aka the guy who writes novels instead of simple comments.
If it was in a yard (which was where the car escaped from), chances are the air brakes were not active at the time because they are not usually left charged when a train is standing and not attached to a locomotive. This puts reliance on the car handbrakes, which should be perfectly OK to keep the cars standing...providing whoever sets them does the job properly. Problem is, setting each car's handbrakes requires the guy doing it to get up on the car, turn the brake wheel goodness-knows-how-many times and climb down to do the same on the next one, so small blame to him if he only sets the brakes on enough cars to stop the train from moving. Suppose then some other guy, for some reason or another, uncouples the car at the end of the train from the others, and suppose that the car at the end of the train didn't have its handbrakes set because it WAS coupled to the cars that did have their handbrakes applied. Under these circumstances, the uncoupled car could then easily escape.
Or as dkbmaestrorules simply put "perhaps the car was left in the yard without air on it" or perhaps the air bled off.
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I had been trying to simplify it, but I suppose I should have double checked what I wrote. Oops.
To all the assinine news networks: Thanks for showing the world how to cross the border without having their cars torn apart....
And CLEARLY it was your own fault once again, CSX! Man, am I glad I've changed my mind about working for those guys! Their safety, performance, and delivery records are terrible!
No it's not. They have a great safety record.
David Schneider
Not anymore I'm afraid.
StarWarsTrains basing on what facts ??
David Schneider
The derailments, grade crossing accidents, employee layoffs, consumer/customer loss, etc.
Show me facts..Easy to say..
People make such a big deal about nothing! Gag at gnats and swallow Camels!
The railcar told reporters he was tired of living under his American railroads authoritarian rule and ran away to Canada for free railcar repair and Canadian railway citizenship.
Wasn't a csx incident inspire Unstoppable? Quite the track record there!
*Flashbacks to CSX's 8888 runaway incident*
On a rail car, air pressure must be applied to "pump off" the brakes and allow the car to roll. Otherwise, a handwheel may be turned to manually release the brakes ... which may be what happened here, triggered by some vandals. The default condition of a disconnected rail car's brakes is APPLIED FIRMLY and they don't just roll unattended. Fewer than 5% of you are aware of that fact and stories of rail cars coming loose from trains and rolling merrily along behind have been told for years.
The truth is that once you break that air line to that car, its brakes come on full force and the car stops ... and you can't budge the damned thing until you pump off the brakes again.
Sorry but you got a lot of things wrong in your statements. You need to brush up the mechanics of braking systems of trains and standing rail cars. Cheers!
Hey Harpo ...... Google Lac Megantic rail disaster and learn something.
+Harpo Marx The brakes come on in an emergency application if the air line is disrupted but the air in the freight cars own tank only lasts so long. It can also be bled off manually which is what might have happened here.
RUEZ69 Thumbs-up Ruez69. Cheers!
Sounds like some one did t apply the handbrake.
Must have been a REALLY slow news day.
Someone seriously screwed the pooch, so we’re not going to discuss it, just review it and figure out who we can blame it on!
That's how I got into Canada 😂
What does it matter that the rail car was sitting in Canada?! Whoopity doooo! It was the middle of the night!
What was the conclusion of the investigation?
Don't the American border authorities have a telephone? They knew a railcar got loose and crossed the border, but they didn't give Canada a call and say "Hey, have an eye out for our railcar"?
Maybe the car was being worked hard by the RR and it wanted to take a vacation. After all, Niagara falls is a good place for it.
*rail car rolls over arbitrarily defined boundary*
Americans: “We’ve been breached!”
Tesla is making self-driving railcars now...
Some people do not understand freight cars or trains for that matter. When a car by itself rolls out of a rail yard, that can only happen when the knuckle on the coupler is opened. If the whole train was not tied down, the entire line of freight cars would have rolled out of the yard. Such an event happened in Texas back in the late 90s. I do not remember the exact date or year. Union Pacific's Inglewood Yard in Houston sits atop a small hill. Train crews have to set all the brakes before disconnecting the locomotives from the train. The entire train minus the locomotives hurled down the hill at almost 50 mph and slammed into a parked UP freight, injuring the crew of that waiting train and caused millions of dollars worth of damages to equipment and infrastructure.
For this news reel, someone lifted coupler left bar to separate the car from the rest of the train. Hence, CSX says it was vandalism. Before 9-11, railroad fans could go into the yards and talk to engineers and even climb inside locomotive cabs. I was one of those.
Now that us rail fans need security clearances to even photograph or film trains, for someone other than a railroad employee to venture into a rail yard unnoticed is concern for CSX.
How come the brakes didn't come on if it had no air?
Just say the Railcar just wanted to take a trip to go see Canada
"What's your reason for being in Canada, eh?" th-cam.com/video/mIq-sk7LS9A/w-d-xo.html
lol funny how it is canadians fault for not getting there quick enough... oh wait were another country we can do what we want, we dont have to check it if we dont feel like it, regardless of how much americans dislike it
god damn they act as if there is a problem with people trying to sneak into canada from the US?
Batvette We're actually very sympathetic to anyone who is doing their darnedest to get out before the new civil war starts.
I never expected a news report about a runaway rail car to be so controversial.
CSX: let's get CN blamed for this >:)
Hahahaa!! Came to Canada...we keep it! Lol
dont fucking blame us canadians for this. go blame CSX, it was their train that got away from a train yard in the first place.
Christopher Strachan Typical Americans. Blame somebody else.
Go fuck yourself douche bag
These things happen. CSX makes a lot of mistakes for some reason. If its from a CSX train in the US, why do they blame Canada?
It's like "Hey we fucked up" and I know..."Let's blame the Canadians for our fuck-up" the world will think U.S. as being the victims .....right ?....
Did you not listen to the video? CSX said the incident was "..being treated as an act of vandalism.." How do you reconcile that with you damn stupid comment?
why are they blaming canadians and not going after the vandals?
ghettohillbilly1
Oh, come on. Obviously nobody is blaming Canada for the incident. The criticism focuses on the slowness to respond. American agents informed the Canadian side of the situation almost immediately. The slow response to that is entirely your own. We can't cross into Canada to check it out ourselves.
Hey I’m British! So I’m the World and it ain’t Canada’s fault! But we have a saying - Made a mountain out of a molehill! Just about sums it up! The only concern is somebody could have got hurt with the runaway car by accident rather than blame Canada! But Stupid is as (or what) stupid does!