Being able to pitch what pretty much amounts to land slots in your deck is so strong. Probably one of the most powerful, yet initially neglected aspect of the recent LotR set.
I love love love this kind of card design. I'm a big fan of modality in magic be in the form of charms, commands, MDFC, even something as simple as cycling. There's no worse feeling in a game of magic to me than having essentially dead cards in my hand and stuff like this really helps to mitigate that. Great vid as always!
Zendikar MDFCs are the best. I think if there's anything to take away from this, it's that cards which are both lands and spells will almost always see play.
Zendikar was definitely the best usage of them and I'm kind of sad they didn't do more land ones in any of the other sets. I get that it was thematic and all, but I remember seeing those first and thinking about how nice it was to have less games where I'd be mana screwed/flooded because my land was also a spell.
I had thought of MDFCs, especially lands, as a Commander thing. It was really cool to see how they work in high level competitive play. Modality is one of those things that doesn't always look powerful, but is and has been powerful as hell since they introduced it all the way back in the 90s.
Could we have a top ten of cards restricted in vintage and banned everywhere else. It'd be cool to see how the power 9 stand up to each other and if any other broken cards can sneak them out.
I love me some double faced cards, especially the double faced lands, very good to use in EDH. Perhaps one day, when the moon is blue enough, they could even make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
Well, if the moon was red, they would be the equivalent of one of the cards on that Top Ten list. Unless the list was "Top Ten Vintage Cards (Minus Power Nine And Basic Lands)"!
Going to take a guess at Emeria's Call for #1. Sometimes games go long and when they do you really wish your plains could smack the opponent upside the head for a chunk of damage.
I'm at #8 and have remembered that cycle in Capenna and might be regretting my call. But I'm gonna stick with it because sticking with Emeria's Call hasn't steered me wrong yet.
Apart from those that pretty much only worked in combination with their other side (not too practical), the problem for me was also to remember the wall of text on both sides. The latter can be also said of Kaldheim, but at least there the card was usually worth the effort. But to me at least the MDFCs with one side being a land are the best when it comes to flexibility.
Gonna have to hard disagree, double faced cards are great and add a lot of additional ways cards can interact and do cool, fun things. They are also awesome for improving consistency and helping make sure you can do your stuff and have fun every time.
@@gakk8658 Double-faced cards suck for a physical, deck-based game. They're fine for something like Hearthstone and its Choose One mechanic, or for a game like the Transformers TCG where the DFCs are like your commanders and are never placed into an anonymous state, but DFCs are fundamentally incompatible with Magic's basic assumption that any card face-down should be indistinguishable from any other card face-down.
I just feel like the prevalence of card sleeves makes that a non-problem. I could accept a “minor inconvenience,” but a “mechanical nightmare”? Far from it imo.
This is the one video where I won't be buying any cards! Taking cards out of a sleeve during a game is just not something I want to be doing. Magic cards should always have the Magic back to them!
Not an MDFC. It's a traditional DFC, with a transform clause. I mean, can argue the clause is so easy to do, it's like you just cast the backside from hand, but you can't just cast the planeswalker side as is.
I hate MDFCs. I mostly draft my cube nowadays and these cards are an absolute nightmare for people who are drafting for the first time and for me, since they tend to ruin the sleeves faster than the rest. The only ones I run is Jace and Kytheon, but I don't even consider adding newer MDFCs.
What about adding a piece of paper telling which side you are in? Or using some crappy card as a placeholder and then placing the right card with the chosen side on top of it?
I have an Ixalan cube, so lots of DFCs. I just keep a few printouts handy that show the cards on the back beneath the title of the front card. You can tell when someone has a DFC in their pack, since they’re examining the sheet, but it’s not much of a problem. I don’t have a solution for the card sleeve problem, though, lots of in and out tends to not be great.
List was pretty much as expected, the only cardi thought i'd see but did not was the jace plip planeswalker. That said i realize it's not actually modal so it did not belong on this list. if it was just called double faced cards then yes it may well have made the list but this list is more specific than that.
Being able to be imprinted under chrome mod is another highly desirable use for the rare lands, not just pitching to the elementals.
Top ten basic lands
21 (22?) to choose from.
5 basics,
5 snow basics…
Waste
He actually could though if he looked at specific basic land from sets to see what colors were the most dominant in certain sets of standard and why.
@@elliotthood1719would be a waste to have colorless basics on the list
It’s Islands
Tangled Florahedron is one of my favorite designs for having functionally the same rules text on both sides.
You should do "top 10 cards seen most often in this series"
Griselbrand
Oh I support the hell out of that
Being able to pitch what pretty much amounts to land slots in your deck is so strong. Probably one of the most powerful, yet initially neglected aspect of the recent LotR set.
I love love love this kind of card design. I'm a big fan of modality in magic be in the form of charms, commands, MDFC, even something as simple as cycling. There's no worse feeling in a game of magic to me than having essentially dead cards in my hand and stuff like this really helps to mitigate that.
Great vid as always!
The land MDFCs and lands with cycling are some of my favorite designs for magics gameplay.
Zendikar MDFCs are the best. I think if there's anything to take away from this, it's that cards which are both lands and spells will almost always see play.
Kaldheim’s MDFCs were pretty good too, with Tergrid and Esika and such. But yeah Zendikar was a good set for MDFCs
True. I still buy packs of zendikar sometimes, just cuz you almost always get value in packs with those.
Zendikar was definitely the best usage of them and I'm kind of sad they didn't do more land ones in any of the other sets. I get that it was thematic and all, but I remember seeing those first and thinking about how nice it was to have less games where I'd be mana screwed/flooded because my land was also a spell.
I had thought of MDFCs, especially lands, as a Commander thing. It was really cool to see how they work in high level competitive play. Modality is one of those things that doesn't always look powerful, but is and has been powerful as hell since they introduced it all the way back in the 90s.
Spikefield Hazard's exile clause is also hand, like against a turn 2 Kroxa, or just helping ensure whatever is dealt with in combat will be exiled.
Could we have a top ten of cards restricted in vintage and banned everywhere else. It'd be cool to see how the power 9 stand up to each other and if any other broken cards can sneak them out.
These are the best thing to ever happen to Charbelcher decks!
Was expecting Pestilent Cauldron, considering the prominence of Nykthos in Pioneer
It was #11, just missed out on the list.
Huh, no Agadeem's Awakening. I wonder how close it got to being in the top 10....
Same. I was expecting it to vie for top spot with Sea gate restoration. Those are the only 2 modals i keep seeing nowadays.
It has 38 points. So fairly close.
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the insight!
Next we need triple faced land triomes!
I love me some double faced cards, especially the double faced lands, very good to use in EDH. Perhaps one day, when the moon is blue enough, they could even make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
Well, if the moon was red, they would be the equivalent of one of the cards on that Top Ten list. Unless the list was "Top Ten Vintage Cards (Minus Power Nine And Basic Lands)"!
Going to take a guess at Emeria's Call for #1. Sometimes games go long and when they do you really wish your plains could smack the opponent upside the head for a chunk of damage.
I'm at #8 and have remembered that cycle in Capenna and might be regretting my call. But I'm gonna stick with it because sticking with Emeria's Call hasn't steered me wrong yet.
This list really show just how bad the strixhaven MDFCs were compared to zendikar and kaldheim, not a single one showed up lmao
Yeah, the only one I think I remember seeing some niche play was Extus. Maybe I've seen a deck playing Valentine or Shaile in the play que.
Apart from those that pretty much only worked in combination with their other side (not too practical), the problem for me was also to remember the wall of text on both sides. The latter can be also said of Kaldheim, but at least there the card was usually worth the effort.
But to me at least the MDFCs with one side being a land are the best when it comes to flexibility.
I will say, sea gate restoration is also a commander all star!
Top 10 Single Faced Cards
I will never forgive innistrad for giving us the mechanical nightmare that are double faced cards.
Gonna have to hard disagree, double faced cards are great and add a lot of additional ways cards can interact and do cool, fun things. They are also awesome for improving consistency and helping make sure you can do your stuff and have fun every time.
@@gakk8658 Double-faced cards suck for a physical, deck-based game. They're fine for something like Hearthstone and its Choose One mechanic, or for a game like the Transformers TCG where the DFCs are like your commanders and are never placed into an anonymous state, but DFCs are fundamentally incompatible with Magic's basic assumption that any card face-down should be indistinguishable from any other card face-down.
I just feel like the prevalence of card sleeves makes that a non-problem. I could accept a “minor inconvenience,” but a “mechanical nightmare”? Far from it imo.
Poor Strixhaven. None of its MDFCs made the cut.
I'm not a fan of Sea Gate Restoration. Kozilek worked hard to remodel it.
This is the one video where I won't be buying any cards! Taking cards out of a sleeve during a game is just not something I want to be doing. Magic cards should always have the Magic back to them!
I think all the mythic Zendikar MDFC should've been grouped together. The list was too bloated with them separated.
I'm guessing #11 is Agadeem's Awakening. Also do any MDFCs see play in pauper?
there are no common MDFCs
No Jace Vryn’s Prodigy?
Not an MDFC.
It's a traditional DFC, with a transform clause. I mean, can argue the clause is so easy to do, it's like you just cast the backside from hand, but you can't just cast the planeswalker side as is.
top 10 cards wizards knew were gonna get the ban hammer when released, but decided to make money instead
How is agadeem's awakaning not here
Mostly because the list is stacked. It has 38 points, which would plenty for most lists. But not this one.
Wow no Esika/The Prismatic Bridge? I’m shocked
It has 3 points.
@@NizzahonMagic ah ok. Didn’t realize it had so few given it’s popularity in commander. But I guess that’s the only format it’s popular/good in
I fucking LOVE these cards, so much
Day 1 asking for a top 10 on all Modern Horizons sets.
"...introduced less than three years ago"
No...Zendikar Rising was just last year right?
I hate MDFCs. I mostly draft my cube nowadays and these cards are an absolute nightmare for people who are drafting for the first time and for me, since they tend to ruin the sleeves faster than the rest. The only ones I run is Jace and Kytheon, but I don't even consider adding newer MDFCs.
What about adding a piece of paper telling which side you are in?
Or using some crappy card as a placeholder and then placing the right card with the chosen side on top of it?
I have an Ixalan cube, so lots of DFCs. I just keep a few printouts handy that show the cards on the back beneath the title of the front card. You can tell when someone has a DFC in their pack, since they’re examining the sheet, but it’s not much of a problem. I don’t have a solution for the card sleeve problem, though, lots of in and out tends to not be great.
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List was pretty much as expected, the only cardi thought i'd see but did not was the jace plip planeswalker. That said i realize it's not actually modal so it did not belong on this list. if it was just called double faced cards then yes it may well have made the list but this list is more specific than that.
Malakar Rebirth?... wth... lands are #1 lol yea scam