Are Chinese Silver Pandas Worth the Premium?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- If you are a collector or lover of Chinese Silver Pandas then you probably already know that they carry a heavy premium. This video is my opinion on Chinese Silver Pandas and I talk about the pros and cons of them as a silver coin. I show off the 2019 Chinese Silver Panda as well as the others ones I own. The Chinese Silver Panda was one of the first silver coins that I bought and I do like the designs. I would love to know that you think of the Chinese Silver Panda Coins from a silver stacking stand point and from the silver collecting stand point. Thanks for watching!
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I love panda's and I do collect them for 10 years now. For me it's no problem that the are 30 grams, because we have a metric system over here in Europe aswell (ounces is more an american thing). And to be honest it's only 1.1 grams of silver, that's nothing.
About the mintage, yes 10 million is a high number, but still much lower then the silver eagles (over 40 million) and if you look at the population of china (almost 1.4 billion) it's not that much. If only 1% of the Chinese start to collect panda's you will have a problem!!! The premium might be higher then a silver eagle, but the value goes up much faster aswell. I can still buy a 2006 silver eagle for $24 but a panda from the same year will cost you at least $75.
Panda's are collector coins, just like any other bullion round with a fiat number on it. If you just want to stack silver you can better buy silver bars, much closer to spot price then any fiat round, that are struck for collectors (no exceptions)
Sander The older dates have much lower mintages which is partly why I think they are so expensive... either way stack what you like my friend! 🔥🐉
Buy a few of these each year won’t kill you....😊...the kids like them
Acquire them if you're a 'collector', do not if you're a stacker.
Kevin Belcher yeah that’s pretty much how it goes. 🔥🐉
Kevin Belcher agreed
It would be a terrible choice to stack these. But you’re right, they’re fun to collect. Awhile back, I found a 1987 gold panda, which was the only year they did mint marks, so I got a Shanghai mint mark which I thought was kinda cool. Some of the silver designs are nice, some are not imo. Perfectly fine and fun for collecting, not stacking.
HiSteve you hit the nail on the head there... also nice pickup! 🔥🐉
I like em. I don’t have a ton of coins that deviate from ASEs. Nice thing is people have the choice to buy or pass on them. I only have the last 4 or 5 years.
The Stacking Stormtrooper it is nice to switch it up every now and again 🔥🐉
Panda Bears represent so/sew and I don't care.🐼 ✝ WWJD
I love pandas.❤
You know man, if i knew nothing about silver or stacking and someone just laid out in front of me ALL the bullion coins that came out that year from every mint and said Choose One.....Pandas, Kooks, Kangaroos, Eagles, Maples, Libertards and more.....i can honestly say that the Panda would be up there and that i'd instantly be drawn to it. It's a beautiful design. Artistic. Great likeness of a Panda. I think they're definitely worth the premium. That being said, I'd never buy a tube of them or get more than one per year while i feed my monster box with tubes of Maples.
Maple Hedgehog yeah they have a good design but that’s about it 🔥🐉
I have a couple and in my opinion NO.... I would do a Libertad instead.
AuRebel yeah I like the libertads way better 🔥🐉
Panda bears represent so/sew and I don't care. 🐼 ✝ WWJD
I love pandas.❤
2019: "6,7,8$ premium over spot which is ridiculous "
2020, 2021: "I'll buy everything you have for that 'low' premium!?!"
Hahahaha ...Your absolutely right 😆
Good luck finding the 2015 gold pandas if any are RARE now especially since it doesnt have fineness or weight on it at all.
They basically gain value year after year as a collector coin.
Spegtacular yeah i’m not sure how good these modern ones will do but the ones in the 90s are doing very well 🔥🐉
I love the Pandas. If they weren't so expensive I'd be stacking them. I get a couple per year. with the fractional gold as well for the sole reason we're more likely to need Chinese money than any other 20 years from now.
theHighDesertPioneer lol I hope that’s not the case 🔥🐉
I have managed to collect the full set from 1989 to 2019.
They all look very impressive. The design is different each year,
Which is way better than eagles, maples, etc.
Premium is excellent value.
I also buying panda. Can i know your panda grow milkspot or not?
Awesome
@@divinelenovox no milk spot all good also managed to purchase 83 84 85 and 87 so now have every silver panda.😁
Just got 2022 and it is absolutely beautiful!(pandas sledding down a hill) … worth the premium in my eyes as a collector. If you are stacking to flip and sell don’t buy. It is just for my eyes and my generations to come to prosper. If they sell that’s their choice. I hope they sell it for premium too lol
Buying 1 per year because of the different designs is not going to break me.
Bob Wojcikowski yeah that’s pretty much what i’m thinking.. 🔥🐉
I got a 1998 Colored Silver Panda 1oz coin for $20 yesterday off someone who had no idea!!!!
i got a 2011 from my local for only 19$...really good considering how much they cost usually..i'll definitely buy them again, just at good prices! cheers
High premium, underweight. No, thank you. I'll stick with generic rounds with no more than a 25% premium.
I only started buying 3-4 Panda's about 6 years ago, and struggle with the thought of the premiums to continue buying ,ugh....so difficult
I like the Panda's mainly they're easy to resale due to the popularity of them and I've been collecting them since they first came out and yes they started out with sterling silver rounds !!
CIR GOLD wow that’s cool that you have the whole collection! 😮🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47 I don't have the whole collection but close to it !! Thanks !!
Can i know your panda got milkspot problem?
One thing you didn´t tell is that the other bullions come in a tube of 20-25 pieces,
but the pandas come in a 15 piece plastic shied so they cost more but normally you buy only 15 pcs/order.
So they cost more but you buy less coins per packing unit.
Markusx26 good point 👍🏽 I just buy them individually 🔥🐉
I like the Pandas, and think that they are a really pretty coin. I wouldn't buy them to stack them, however. For me, I stack the ASE and Maples. But, from a collectors POV, I like the designs and the fact that they change every year. Currently, I have 5, 2015-2019, and plan on buying 1 each year. If I can find a good deal I will pick up the earlier dates, but some of those get a little outside my budget, lol. Who knows, maybe one day we won't be able to get them so easily.
JTmaine yeah i’ll probably get 1 a year as well... they are terrible for stacking 🔥🐉
I've got a few but essentially stopped buying because of the weight. In 2015, they were one once but some came in underweight. They weren't marked. I posted a vid about it. It was crazy.
SalivateMetal yeah smart to stop getting them... it’s so lame that they aren’t an ounce anymore 🔥🐉
I feel everyone should have at least one cute widdle chubby panda in their collection. Luckily I started and ended with a beaut. 1989(P).
Just Spitfire2point0 lol yeah at least one 😂🔥🐉
Panda bears represent so/sew and I don't care.🐼 ✝ WWJD
I love pandas.❤
I added 10 2023 Pandas to my collection of bars, coins, and Constitutional I ❤them
My daughter chose the Panda when I introduced her to silver.
Gilbert Martinez nice! my kids like em as well 🔥🐉
They sell back at spot price on provident. 30 grams what a joke. It wouldnt be so bad if they charged you for 30 grams plus a small premium. But no. Way above eagles.
Ive been to that temple btw. Its pretty sweet
I think that it may be better to get the whole series, as it has a huge premium for selling them, since the earlier ones are really hard to come by (for a price under a thousand especially for the 1983/4) I think that if people want to collect the pandas, there is no problem with that, and they still have a lower mintage than the silver eagles, at about 40 million.
Just bought a 2016 Chinese panda coin.
I picked up a mint sealed sheet (30) of the 1oz 2015 pandas on flash sale. Same price I would’ve paid for maples. So worth it!
How is the condition now? Got milkspot?
*I will be getting 20 per year since 2018!!!* 🔥🐉🔥🐉🔥🐉
Maxxx Strong go for it! stack what you like!! 🔥🐉
Just got a good deal $10 off per coin, $4 over spot
Cute panda. Most important note for collector : buy original panda, not counterfeit panda.
Just bought ! For 38 EURO ! Im in Australia buying from Spain ! Go figure ??? All up with postage 58 Australian ! Top buy ! Thank you for the info M8 ! I collect them from start !
Thanks. I'm new to trying to "stack" I'm just trying to get weight in bullion. But its a pretty coin. I think it's smarter for me to stick to American Maple leafs??
Depends were you live. I would go with the American eagles. But if your trying to go a little cheaper you can always stack buffalo rounds . I'm a new stacker myself but I got into stacking varieties of coins rounds bars. Just a little bit of everything including a bit of gold as well .
@@playernas65 thanks 👍
There's 28.35 grams in a OZ. So the pandas are an OZ.
There is 28g in an ounce. You get more
A great series to collect if you’re living paycheck to paycheck. Way better than a regular ”stackercoin”. Guess it’s all simmers down to what your goal with investing in silver is. Thanks for a great video!
Pandas are expensive here in Britain. Dealers are asking £35.00 when the spot price is currently £14.67. Of course £7.00 of that is added sales tax.
I don’t have a lot I think only one but the premiums are what’s keeping me away from them And that whole weight issue
Urban youre awesome
Thanks bro I appreciate it
Hey bro...love you to do a video on the coins here downunder esp the kookaburras...tc frnd
Urban Lifestyle yeah 30 grams is a scam 🔥🐉
My bad I didn't say Troy OZ. So your right there's 31.103. I still love the pandas.
Loved to hear your opinion on them.☺
Not so keen on them to be honest.
Good video, buddy.👍
Paranoid Philosopher thanks! i’m kinda on the fence 🔥🐉
Silver is Silver, just buy at the right price.
Dr Who yep and these are way overpriced IMO 🔥🐉
Helpful video. I let my son pick out a round at my lcs and he picked the 2018. 😂
Might treat myself to one at some point one day. 😉👌🏼
Yankee Stacking lol you gotta try all of the options once 🔥🐉
Im 17. I just bought my first peice of silver, it is a 2011 silver panda. I paid 30 usd and I think I got a good deal. I saw they go for like 60 bucks online
Spot price for an oz when I'm writing this is $24.38. So 5 ish over spot. Idk if thats bad or not but its really shiny so I don't care much
I like the design of the pandas but I don't have one because of the high premium. They have to mint the metric weight on the coins, that's why they changed from 1 oz to 30 g.
Andre G that’s still lame that they made them smaller. yes very high premiums 🔥🐉
Don't do pandas less silver more cost
Not in my lifetime 😂😂
I'd rather put it to poured silver
geordie stacker lol id way rather get poured silver as well 🔥🐉
As an investment standpoint, I understand. Because the price goes up over time. But if you are looking for stacking silver Incase the “apocalypse” comes then it’s just not for you. I guess I’m more of the investment type.
People are nuts, First of you know it is not a ounce, you know how many they mint, there is no trick you know what you are Buying. And you are buying a design a panda it is a beautiful coin, I buy them, they sell a lot because people love the design, and it changes every year ,
I just bought one today the 2019!!!!
Coin Collector nice! they are fun to collect 🔥🐉
I have a few 2010,2011's and 2012's...I won't buy anymore
Bob Silver at least yours are a full ounce 🔥🐉
Do you still feel the same about Pandas now ..3 years later?
I collect these for my 4 year old daughter. She gets excited because there are pandas on it.
Negatives : The reduced silver weight of the Panda (less than an ounce), The high premiums for these coins, High mintage of these coins.
Positives: Changed designs every year,
They are excellent rounds to buy for the people that think silver will go over $1000/ounce
M Colwell lol yes I see your point 😂🔥🐉
I like silver pandas, and have several Gold also. IMO it’s strictly a collector coin, definitely NOT a Stacker (for many of the same reasons you stated).
If you’d like more information on the Panda and see the Entire set I collected, check my video out:
th-cam.com/video/sGzYRMs2SSc/w-d-xo.html
I think Pandas are for collecting and not stacking. That being said, should I buy the 1989 Panda for $107. It is the first year and only 255 thousand mintage. You mentioned they are sterling. Chinese always looking for an angle.
83 first year..
Every Con you hit on is why I don't buy them anymore. Last one i purchased was 2015 (1 oz). I buy plenty of everything else so I don't miss them. :)
Sorghakill yeah... they are going downhill but I do still like the designs 🔥🐉
First of all, premium on Silver Pandas is high everywhere, not only in US. In Poland Silver Panda costs around 90 PLN, while usual silver 1-ounce bullion coins like Maple Leaf / Kangaroo / Philharmoniker / Brittania / Krugerrand / Eagle are all between 70 and 73 PLN.
In my opinion Silver Pandas are a good option as one-off coins. They keep the collection interesting, they are unique and pretty, and that's why I plan to keep buying one Panda each year. They are similiar in this regard to other coins with moderate premium and rather high mintages (like Koalas, Kookaburas, Oriental Brittanias, Incuse Maple Leafs, Lunar Year Coins): in all these cases you get an interesting and distinctive coin at the cost of higher premium. If you only care about the mass of your silver, do not buy any of these coins. Also, if you're buing coins and hoping they will have much higher numismatic value in the future, these coins are also no the best of ideas (very low mintage coins are better for that).
But if you like collecting nice things in addition to just accumulating silver Pandas are definately a thing to consider.
Thomashkis yeah def for collecting and not stacking 👍🏽 good to hear prices aren’t just high here 🔥🐉
It’s the mintage that gets me, got to go with the South Korean chiwoo and the Zin series. Low mintage and excellent quality.
i love the pandas because of how high the contrast is on them. i have 2 but id rather stack eagles and maples
The kookaburras are 1 oz, about $6 premium, and only have a mintage of 500,000
Alex Coin Roll Hunter exactly and they are a full ounce of silver 🔥🐉
I like th panda's. Not enough to buy a rack of them. I'm a 2 or 3 per year guy on those to keep up the collection. I have all the way back to 2010 and only get the old ones when I see a screeming hot deal. Good one Baggie.
Silver Bean Counter nice SBC! that’s cool that you are almost up to 10 years in the collection! 🔥🐉
I agree with everything you said. Great vid🤘
aka_just_matt thanks so much my friend! 🔥🐉
I have a nice collection of Chinese Panda's all graded 70
Pro Panda for sure.
jamie silva I do like the designs 🔥🐉
So I bought a silver panda and I’m trying to make a profit with this ..... how will I do that ??????
I have quite a few, but when they started to milk spot I was done. But the do make for a beautiful collection.
losinglouie i’m not surprised on the milk spots. iv heard lots of people say that... basically the only thing I like is that they are pandas 😂🔥🐉
How many your panda grow milkspot? Like how many out of 10?
I dont know, but I think 1 Oz. Is 28.35 grams may be wrong, but I don't think so
a troy oz is 31.1g
I picked up a 2014 yesterday for $32, i was kinda surprised that the back dates were cheaper by about $10. Mine says 1 oz on it.
Monetarily? Probably not worth it.
But I like pandas, so I want some 🐼
Thank you man, I made me decision. No on the Panda because it weighs less than 31.1grams and I don't want to give my money to the chinese.
Love pandas but hate the authorities. Trying to collect 1 for each year.
The panda I have is a 2014.
Christopher Sanchez nice at least it’s a full ounce 🔥🐉
I just got my 2021 pandas ms70. Pcgs. I'm happy
Pandas are the worst.
They are not even an ounce.
That greedy squeezing of customers and causing confusion is insulting.
mark park yeah it really is 🔥🐉
One US ounce is 28.35gm so technically at 30gm they are but not a Troy ounce tho.
Dr Who lol good point 🔥🐉
@@SilverDragons47: 31.103gm 👍
Which is why i get them in kg ;)
Great quality coins, I just bought my first 2016/2017 one ounce,pandas.
their mint quality is amazing, I paid £20 a coin, second hand. Bargain
I wouldn't stack for investment tho, my money is in Queens beasts at the moment.
metalic miner yeah they are pretty much just for collecting. stack on! 🔥🐉
I get them for my nieces every Christmas , they like them because their different every year..
Willie Stacket that is a great gift! 🔥🐉
Great gift.
I love pandas- in gold!
SilverFox I would love to get a gold panda 😏🔥🐉
Mintage spiked into millions after 2010, but 2009 and older have MUCH lower mintage
silver panda same size as maple leaf and britiana diamater wise?
Now in 2022 have no premiums at all. It is an oz! 🤣 is .999 the IS is different on which country you are. I consider this better for Silver Stacking.
Good info. Just started stacking and trying to keep premiums down. However I just got the 2019 Marvel Captain America 1 0z coin for my son on his birthday and paid $27 . Almost $12 over spot. 😬
Tennessee Stacker lol people love the collector stuff... it’s ok to buy a few just don’t go crazy 🔥🐉
I love the looks of them, but not being a Troy ounce is a deal breaker for me. I’ll just pickup the backdated rounds if I can get them cheap enough. Thanks for the great information SB!
HOGG yeah always gotta remember it’s not a full ounce! 🔥🐉
Im coming back to this video to let everyone know i cracked... i picked up 2 of the 2019s. I just loved the design too much. Gave one to my GF. Stack what you like, right?
venictos lol Yes stack what you like for sure 😏🔥🐉
If the American Eagle had a different design annually I will guarantee we would be paying a higher premium. Name me one other major country that changes their design annually.
I believe the panda premium is exacerbated by the retailer. I don’t have problem with any foreign country’s silver/gold coins. If I like them I’ll buy ‘em! Yeah, the 30g’s are annoying but the design change makes me overlook the 1.1035 grams.
SilverBeerNuts ! the ASE does change designs it has a new year every year 😂🔥🐉
Not on my radar for the foreseeable future. To much money for less silver. Thanks for sharing and take care.
Clayton County History Hound for sure. thanks for watching! 🔥🐉
I like the panda for the proof like finish on them and I like the change of the design each year. It’s weird that I’m not worried on the made in China idea with the silver bullion like I am with other things. I definitely don’t think the pure stacker should stake them because of that loss of a gram of silver.
Chris Garner exactly... it is cool that they keep on changing designs 🔥🐉
I don’t get why we would worry on the made in China when 99% of our crap is made in China. Seems silly to me.
I'm pro panda its still a avdp oz I don't use pandas as my base stack but they are awesome to collect
The premium on a generic round of silver is about the same premium as 1/20 oz of gold.
M Colwell yep those gold fractionals do have high premiums 🔥🐉
I can't get passed the non-standard weight.
Pandas should be, at most, the same price as American eagles since we're getting less silver anyway. I'd pay that, otherwise I'm out on pandas
I'll admit they are beautiful👍
I love Pandas
I've made some good money flipping them so they are good to me
Hi i found a 2019 panda coin 150g 50yuan how much do u think retail should cost?
They haven't pit a price thats why i ask
10 million grams of silver can make alot of additional coins.....
Ehren Krause exactly... so ridiculous 🔥🐉
Chinese currency keeps getting devalued by the government. Makes sense to charge more of a premium to store wealth in precious metals.
I still love my Panda coins
I like them but i wont buy them unless they are at spot and thats not gonna happen....
How many extra coins from 3 million can you get from that 1.1 gram issue ??? A lot......
Cajun Coin Hunter exactly... they are making a bundle off the savings i’ll bet 🔥🐉
I have not bought one since they went to 30 grams.