Nah the hardest one is still the one with Kairagi variant that hard to suck, with floor 12 bullshit leyline making your ER useless/harder ER management. Hightide, lowtide bullshit.
While it does suck, it's better than a no-brainer abyss like the last cycle. Though they should honestly start finding ways to make bosses hard without just making them jump all over the place. Though I heard there's a way to make this boss stick to one place without moving around, no RNG involved. Haven't looked it up yet
@@AquaticNebula The annoyance and invul periods are actually okay for me. The locking of line up isn't. This is the first time I actually had a hard time finding a perfect team to clear the last floor without restarting everything (I still did with Raiden National and Ayaka Freeze). If I had a hard time with multiple 5* already on my list, what more of F2P or fresh players?
For new players ! You dont need to do it all chambers at first cycle. For example once you get 3 star at 12-1its done. If you struggle 12-2 you can start all again and go full energy to 12-2. It doesnt matter if you finish 5 min at 12-1 no problem bcs you already got 3 star.
the problem is that they already be killed on 12-1 by those hounds by bleeding that ruins your team comp onwards. those who had built solid hyper bloom will win the the floor. Because only all first chambers are the problem.
Yeah this abyss was hard but it was more kinda irritating. You couldnt use frost in 2nd team because of ice lawachurl. The aeonblight drake keeps flying, and floor 1 has too much HP, doggo plus thunder bat. I cleared it 36 stars, but it would be very hard for those who dont have many 5 stars
Yeah, exactly, the hard part comes from the restrictions it imposes. Second half has Cryo Mitachurls AND Thunder Manifestations so it automatically locks your Electro and Cryo DPS characters. A lot of people use Raiden National and Ganyu/Ayaka teams in one of the halves, but they can't technically use those characters in the second half. Unless you use Melt Ganyu with Xiangling. I personally switched out Kazuha with Xiangling in Ayaka's team. This obviously ruins your freeze sometimes, but what can you do? And finally, when I got to 12-3-1 I realized I didn't have a bow character to take down the Aeonblight Drake. When I farmed him for boss materials, he was dead before flying away, I didn't realize he spends 90% of the time in the air. So I had to restart and add a bow character in order to get 36 stars
Tbh I would rather abyss be hard and give better rewards then the snooze fest it usually is. But hoyo said they dont want to make harder end game content to not "stress" players. Which begs the question wtf did they make this abyss for? Unless.... they lied. They dont care about stressing players, they just want more money xD
Im so glad that I force built Mono Geo team when Itto was released. Along side with Gorou Albedo Zhongli. I dont use them daily but they are the most consistent team for me in Abyss. This patch Abyss is so hard and tricky, and highly elemental dependant. And im so glad the mono geo team saves me every single time. Edit: I used Raiden National for first half except that I switched out Xingqiu to Yelan for her bow. (I usually use Xingqiu in my past Abyss).
@@iturnedmypikachuintoararecandy oh yes yes i forgot about those heralds, those shields are pain in the ass! I usually use raiden national for that not geo
Monogeo in the 2nd half for me. The thing about monogeo is that they're not the best for every abyss, but rarely you have an Abyss cycle that counters them. Not the strongest, but very consistent
@@nhaan4178 nice! We’re on the same boat. But actually I use monogeo in every Abyss for monthsssss, ever since I started 36star it was all with monoGeo either in first half or second half. It was always the team for my in Abyss cuz they work all the time.
@@alwaysmycamera Same for me. Eversince I got Itto on his first banner, he's never absent from my Abyss run. I don't use him in overworld anymore because you can Ushi oneshot everything and it's not fun. I usually use monogeo for Boss chambers and Ayato hyperbloom with Kazuha for mob chambers
This spiral abyss was a HUMBLING experience. I've been 36 starring for months but now I'm back to 35 starring. I won't give up but my first team for the first half is as strong as it can get and I'm not sure I can clear chamber 3 fast enough without having to change team (which will make it more difficult to finish the chamber 1 and 2 easily).
Chamber 3 second half actually quite easy and can be clear in 1 minutes, so only for 1st half are abit harder but you have like 2 minutes to clear it for 3*
go to the a better position for 12-2 first half (the spawn of the next round) they will charge and group up pretty nicely. then use sucrose or xiao to kill them. if u use zhong li, then your dodge skills will be put to a test. the pyro spears will create shield if they attack a shield (zhongli, diona, noelle etc)(crystallize also).
@@gr33dl0cknein3 you do realize there's weight difference among the monsters right? Just like how people are having a hard time pulling in Kairagi. Yeah right, anything that is not easy to beat = badly designed. Says the DA who doesn't even know programming nor developed a game before lmaooo.
i only had difficulty on the aeon boss one, i didnt know that you need to have an archer to shoot its wings. I used raiden,yae,bennet and kazuha, so i reset and replaced yae with fishl. But the rest of the run are quite easy.
@@josepht5141 aeon is pretty much a punching bag if your smartphone dont stutter. 12-2 is ass, those power rangers are so hard to group without Venti/Kazuha, i mainly use national team and sucrose taser.
Kazuha for the 4 tanky rangers on 12-2, and Yelan for the flying robot bird on 12-3 got the job done for me on my third try. I’d say this is the hardest one in awhile, which was nice since I’ve been getting bored.
Can't stress enough the first sentence of this video, being the most difficult Abyss 12 to date. While those with headroom in their team comps can breeze it past with just overwhelming damage, anyone that was at the edge, is even more so now. If I'm not wrong the HP pool jumped from 15m to 20m on this Abyss rotation, and it's really insane to think about, even if we account for groupability and stacking of AoE damage. I used to have HP pool chart at hand to check, but lost it after using it as proof on an argument that Abyss is getting harder, but also more annoying at times ( invulnerable states suck ). We've come from sub 6m HP IIRC to 8-10-12-15 with some drops in-between. I don't like Abyss just getting tankier as it gets, because endgame players should breeze it through ( 36* since Aug 21, started Feb 21. ). It was said not that long ago, that HoYo doesn't want to give us more levels for the challenge, because it makes people pull their hair out... but if they make Abyss 12 in itself so much harder to finish, that's gonna make players pull their hair too, as they know they've invested and mastered their teams, and they aren't weak usually. Due to HoYo not willingly wanting to give a challenge above Floor 12 ( which I'd find solution to creeping Floor 12 ), making it slowly harder creates an odd vacuum of power creep, that didn't exist at the beginning. Sure characters have gained better comps and they do deal more damage, but to get on that level... isn't exactly easy or small feat. If you invest correctly on one cycle, you'll be blown in the other with no way to recoup. If that isn't the frustration they wanted to avoid in increasing Abyss levels, I don't know what is. This creeping of a floor is a solution looking for trouble, which is not having hard enough endgame content, which they could easily make if they wanted to, but as they said previously, are not willing to make. Instead they are doing exactly what they wanted to stop, making players frustrated at Abyss. Where they want to put the 'good enough challenge' keeps being pushed further and further, and it only caters to those that are willing to push for that limit. That's not a big portion of players to keep satisfied, when other venues are available to keep them satisfied. I like challenge, but I do not like seeing people getting shafter for my sake of challenging my own investment and game knowledge, or lack of it when I can brute. I do like the idea of having favourable teams to keep Spiral Abyss easier, but I do not like the forceful way of having to creep the difficulty according to the favourable team. That's just shutting the door for even trying it out. There is already enough people that do not want to do Abyss because it just gets crazier over time, making that count larger by creeping up numbers, is doing exactly what they wanted to avoid with not adding more Abyss Floors... It's not that people's characters are getting weaker, but the requirements for same level of achievement are being pushed up. This gives despair. And, no I don't advocate for the old 1.x Abysses which would be a sneeze with current game knowledge and released characters, but I'd like them to find actual balance to hardness of Abyss. This is the wrong direction of that, and very hard steering on it.
This was definitely the hardest abyss for me we had in a long time, I was able to 1st try 36 most of the recent abyss and if I didn't just needed a few extra tries. with this one I needed 32 fights to complete it, mainly because I needed to full energy start the chambers and change my teams twice due to the behavior of the aoenblight and the lawachurls instakilling my teams a lot, the manifestation isn't too hard on its own but barred me from using my raiden and made it hard to use eula as well.
It doesn't really that hard. I think player is just overrating this abyss y'all just overwhelmed because it's just a new set of enemies, next week or two all of the players will be 36 starring abyss with ease. And if you mean you are just joking, believe me I get your joke but let's be real spiral abyss is not that really hard anymore 😅😅😅
@@skypianoprogression1942 thats why most games of this style give small rewards for doing things like this, issue is, genshin locks a decent chunk of primos behind abyss, if you dont do it youre punished by getting less characters in a character collection game
I first played this game at 2.3 patch, & im able to 36* abyss since the 3rd month i played this game. And this abyss is actually the first time I struggle since my first 36* run. It actually fun to be able to have some challenges again.
Weird thing about 12-2-1 is the way that the chasm mobs get staggered. When overloaded they seem to stagger off to the side which made grouping with rational a complete nightmare. You can sort of group the first wave by just walking to the other side of the chamber but one of the pyro guys might be a bit slow or hang out in the back
This abyss made me use my Yoimiya for the first time in abyss, and that surprisingly works well. Usually would bring Hu Tao if the enemy is mostly cryo or electro, but the Thunder Bat moves a lot and it's kinda hard for my stamina drained C0 Hu Tao
@@swordmaster4448 it's mainly coz hu tao has higher multipliers on her CA and she has no ICD, while Yoimiya only has strong multipliers on her 3rd and 5th NA, and if you even so much as dash or dodge, you have to redo her NA again to reach the 5th attack, hence why hu tao can dish out higher numbers than Yoi
@@swordmaster4448 yoimiya does higher single target dps, and is more braindead to boot you just need different support, with a c6 yunjin being a VERY notable must have that allows yoimiya to pull ahead even further
Same here. It wasn't really that bad of a struggle per se.. but it was annoying with that thundering manifestation with a melee characters dominated account 💀
Everything was pretty easy except Thunder Manifestation who keeps flying around and has quite a lot of hp on top of that. Also immune to electro which limits your team comps. Still got 36 stars with one straight run but it was definitely the most annoying part. Almost didn't make it since I was just spamming attacks at first.
I've breezed past every abyss for a while now, and this is the first time in so long that I had to come back with a completely different team for certain chambers. More of this please, Hoyo! Very interesting run this time around
Only just started the video and I already just wanna say I'm honestly kinda relieved to hear even you think it's so hard, bc that means the problem wasn't necessarily just me and I don't need to be too frustrated about having so much trouble with it
Its definitely one of the more difficult ones weve had in a while but i have to agree with you. Its gotten me excited to see what other teams i can clear the abyss with
Managed Floor 12 / 36* after a bit of swiching arround characters. In the end an AOE group in the first half (Bloom) and Single Target (Yoimiya - Vape) in second half did the trick 😊
I didn't try on my first but these are the teams I used to finish this spiral abyss on my second: Bennett, kazuha, xiangling and ganyu (ganyu used as a sub dps) Yoimiya, yelan, zhongli and yunjin
i changed teams 4 times for this. It is indeed really hard. I had to sideline Zhongli for first chamber because the doggos were just annihilating me. Had to do 3 stars each chamber and just change up the team. It also helps if you know how to play the game, i guess i should learn it by now.
IMO, the hardest abyss was when it had Maguu Kenki, Primo geovishap, and Perpetual mechanical array - three world bosses with insane hp plus a leyline disorder that gives them res buff. This abyss seems hard because the last one was so easy. Any cursed/experimental dendro team could clear the last cycle LMAO. Also, it is weird that thunder manifestation is in this because Yae is rerunning, and also weird that shield characters are not recommended in 1st half since Thoma and Layla are also in the banners. They always tailor the abyss to the character banner which is very odd for Hoyo this time.
I felt so ashamed that I had to whip out Zhong Li so I didn't die to the 12-2-2 Mitachurls, but at least I wasn't anxious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In all seriousness I prefer this than being able to breeze through it with my strongest teams, Making me swap to a weaker team (in terms of my account) so I can clear effectively is a nice change of pace.
Thunder Manifestation fr fucked up my team comps i wanted to use. Thats why i only got 2,3,3 stars on the first run... With the second run i just capitalized on the already earned 3 & 3 stars and made a team to drop 12.1
This abyss was kinda hard. Previous abyss only took me 1-4 tries but I can't even count how many tries I took on this one. Did 1st half with Ayaka Diona Mona Venti but switched out venti with kazuha since he clears faster than venti and used Yelan Xingqiu Xiangling Bennett for 2nd half
Breezed through the previous abyss without retrying any floor but this one damn xD As a purely mid-range mobile player (dunno how you guys play on PC i feel like I'll lose my fingers) shooting the 12-3 boss's weak spots is hell, and I don't even know why my shots don't paralyze it at all sometimes. Good thing international is a great speedrun team and that yoimiya can take care of the other half
I’m surprised people are saying this. I think having 10 built characters will always make you get 36 stars. And out of those 10, 2 or 3 will be highly invested. I’m sure if you’ve cleared abyss before, you’ll be able to do it again this time with some adjusting of your characters
@@nothing3887 i already 36 starred it the same day lmao. I've been clearing abyss for about a year now and it's just that this update was a bit more difficult than the previous ones
I used the Nahida team on my Abyss too, but used it for the second chamber. I used my Freeze Ayaka on the first chamber - Noblesse Diona, VV Kazuha, Tenacity-TTDS Mona, Blizard Ayaka.
wow. i actually 36 stars this one on my first try. hearing people struggle w/ this one makes me feel a little proud w/ myself. from not being able to 36* to finishing it w/ ease as an f2p
@@zyzyzyy4878 ive 36*d since 1.2 but i'm f2p so i can tell you my teams, this one was def harder than previous ones tho: 1st half u can use any of these: Cyno, dmc/nahida, fischl/yelan, kuki Hu tao, albedo, yelan, yunjin/thoma/jean (if you can't dodge) 2nd half: Hu tao, yelan, xingqiu, xiangling Raiden, xiangling, yelan/xingqiu, bennett Yelan, xiangling, xingqiu, bennett Hu tao, kazuha, yelan, thoma After 36*ing it, I tried a bunch of diff comps and eula and ayaka comps just weren't it for this abyss because there were a lot of enemies that moved a lot or could not be frozen so ayaka's freeze didnt work and my eula, despite doing 400k bursts, just did not have enough dmg for aeroblight drake cause he's a ruin enemy so he has physical resistance.
for me this was the easiest 36 star since release but i must say that the 2 teams i have build were perfect picks for the enemies so i it was 50% luck i guess
Tips for players who struggle - most national/international variants can generally handle top side easliy. Rational version might struggle a bit when it comes to 12-1-1 and 12-2-1 due to the comp being mainly single target and 12-3-1 cuz u dont really have a bow to break the boss. International is the opposite where it will be exceptional on first 2 chambers. I find it more easier if u kill the pyro husks on 12-2-1 first and then focus the hydro husks on first wave since the hydro ones usually always comes close to you but the pyro ones can do rnaged atks as well as close range atks. Generally for the 2nd side hyperbloom and hutao variants are recommended. U can also use yoimiya comps as well but it wont work as well as hutao or hyperbloom especially in 12-3-2. If u want healing for the wolf chamber on top side and u dont want to or dosnt have room for a healer on ur team,u can consider picking up a hp restoration effect card as a option.
I managed to 36 star after a few tries but I definitely cut it close in 12-3 as i completed it with like 5 seconds to spare. Still, this abyss wasn't really that hard for me personally. I used Yae-Fischl-DMC-Kazuha for the first half and XL-XQ-Benny-Ayato for the 2nd half and it did the job well
36 stars here: The 12-3 1st half is by far the most time consuming, at least before I bring archer into it since the main issue is that Aeon just keep on flying. My teams are: Shogun, Kazuha, Yae, Bennet (I tried another run, changing it to Diona with elegy, I got better time) for 1st half Nahida, Xingqiu, Nilou and Kokomi for second half (this time deletes enemy so fast) for the second half I will say though I am a bit lucky on my pulls and some of them have their dedicated weapon (Nahida, Nilou and Yae) and also some cons (yae at c2, Nahida at c1) By far really difficult abyss for F2P, but I'm sure there's more skilled player than me that just know what team to bring haha Edit: I'm dumb, I thought Aeon is on 12-2, it's on 12-3.
@@meatobagan yeah, it's fine though, my issue is the Aeon flying initially and I don't have archer (brinv bennet instead) so iirc my first run for the aeon chamber (i forget if it is 12-2 oe 12-3) it takes ages since Yae is the only one doing damage, but I swapped bennet with Diona and it cuts the time by a full minute. I finish abyss with 46 seconds time remaining. Nilou Nahida team is just way too OP. My yae is hyper invested, she deals like 17k per shot without buff or resonance, so my electro team is fine. I don't see anything that makes it slow with electro team on first half, thunder manifestation is second half.
I was thinking about trying it tomorrow first half being yae miko venti tighnari and jean as back up healing and next team being nahida ayato kuki and kazuha
@@beanswater Diluc, Diona, Kaeya, Kazuha. Smooth because of eyeframes, and pyro counters both cryo and electro lawachurls. Could clear it under a minute with benett without diona's shield.
I was going to say I found it easy but I did throw all my saved primogems at the banner for Nahiha C2 and a Yoimiya alongside a Kokomi and Yae Miko. My other team is C2 Itto+redhorn geo Supremacy with Ningguang, Zhongli and C6 Gorou. Saving all primogems now for Raiden Banner 50/50.
I breezed through this abyss pretty easily but I had to swap my team for 12-3-1 for a bow character to get the flying metal chicken Teams I used: Bennet, Kazuha, Fischl, Xingqiu Zhongli, Xiao, Albedo and Jean I honestly felt like 12-2-2 was going to be super annoying for my Xiao team but it was surprisingly easy Thunder Manifestation was as annoying as I predicted though I was still able to get 3*
Same. From the video, it looks like geo mc ult can block thinder manifestation's path which i did not know. Mf keep dashing from one end to the other of the arena.
That's why I have all of my characters at least Lv. 80 with high talent levels, proper weapon and artifact sets, even the said artifacts don't have good rolls in it. I believe it's better to have the flexibility to build a good comp when dealing with different situations rather than having few, well-optimized characters on a limited comp and try to brute force the way each side of the floor. I tried different teams and failed (of course), but that's what I find it fun with these challenges. What I discovered is that Bloom team with Nahida is quite effective on the first half of chamber 1 and 2, Thundering Manifestation is still the same and Aeon is just a flying Ruin Guard. A little challenging, but easily doable even for F2P.
I ran Raiden hyper carry on the top half and Nahida Hyperbloom with Kuki on the bottom half. This Abyss cycle was BRUTAL but I'm glad to see hyperbloom continue to be usable but at the same time, quite sad that freeze isn't usable.
I've been breezing through the abyss for awhile now but that stupid electro bird boss took me a few tries...God I hate that thing so much. Not only does it just move too much but it kept one shotting my ganyu :c
First time in a while that I completed each 12 room with 10/20 seconds left. Felt satisfying, especially because my Nahida was dealing 35/40k per proc. I had good buffs.
It was my first time fighting that robot nugget so I didnt know I need a bow character for that boss. My Ganyu finally goes out from the coal mine after a long time. I still suffered with my potato phone.
I honestly was able to complete the new abyss on my first try. This is my first time doing that, nahida, raiden and yelan helped me speed run the first half of floor 12 which gave my Freeze team extra time to kill everything and get burst back.
Floor 12-2 first half was easy-peasy with my baby Tighnari. Honestly, even as an F2P, I didnot feel the abyss 'TOO HARD'. Like if you used your teams correctly, it was easy. took me 3-4 trials to 9 star floor 12. ^^
Yea I had an easy time with Nahida + Kazuha + Fischl + Kokomi on mob side and Zhongli + Yoimiya + Bennett + Xingqiu on the boss side, I just turned off my brain and spammed normal attack. People really underrate Yoimiya too much, even the 4 Lawachurl floor died to Yomiya spam, who cares about AoE when I only need to press a single button 90% of the time.
Huh? Didn't know it was perceived as difficult tbh. Tried it yesterday, so before watching this video just now, and got 36* first attempt with Keqing, Kazuha, Bennett, Sara first half and Hu Tao, Zhongli, Xingqiu, Ganyu second half. 12-3-2 was somewhat close with 15 seconds left, but all else was easy imo. I disliked the mechanical triangle boss from last abyss much more than whatever is in the current one. Guess I just used the right teams straight away.
i did the first chamber without bow character 😂 still got 36*. i used nahida yae kazuha kokomi first half and hutao yelan xq zhongli 2nd half. i struggled a lot on 12-3 bcs of not bringing a bow character and spent 2 minutes on 1st half, then hu tao just destroyed everything on 2nd half under 40 sec edit: this is also thr first time in a while that i didnt use freeze ayaka and melt ganyu/raiden national for my floor 12 run. they’re usually my go-to
This abyss was such a pain! I struggled a lot until I found the right teams that worked for me. I've used a Hypercarry Raiden (C0) team first half with Kazuha (C0), Benny (C5), Sara (C4). For the second half I used Reverse melt Ganyu (C0) with Xianling (C6), Sucrose (C6) and Zhongli (C0). All of the teams with f2p gear and ER based. I barely managed to 36* it with just a few seconds left. In retrospect, bringing a cryo dps to 12-2 is not the best idea, but XL pyronado came in clutch a lot by melting the shields and then is easier from there, also a lot of dodging/i-framing because even though I had Zhongli, they do break through his shield a lot, which also make it hard to aim with Ganyu, but definitely doable. Overall, it was a nice challenge, even as a f2p player.
Those abyss guys are tanky and theres so many of them and the electro fly thing moves way to much I miss the ruin serpent at least he stops moving for a few seconds
Only after I learned DO NOT bring a shielder to 12-2 that I managed to 3 star it, otherwise the enemies wil infinitely shield themselves and frustrate you to no end.
my hatred for the electro oceanid is deep and eternal, every night i see it in my deepest nightmares, taunting me from 1 meter of the ground where xiangling's pyronado can't hit it.
Is it? maybe it's because I'm an old player but to me this was the best abyss so far, the only annoying thing is the electro oceanid but a single target team comp easily destroys it
This abyss made me use literally all the elements My teams were: First Half - Ayaka (Cryo), Venti (Anemo), Raiden Electro, Bennett (Pyro) Second Half - Hu Tao (Pyro), Zhongli (Geo), Nahida (Dendro), Xingqui (Hydro) All Archons was used, and Hu Tao Burgeon is so fun imo and Nahida killing the bat so easy was so fun too.
What I find is that if you have all four archons you'll have quite an easy time this abyss: - Venti: CC/Bow/4pcVV for Team 1 - Zhongli: Shielder for Team 2 - Raiden: DPS Team 1 (dog+chicken killer) - Nahida: Slot this radish in either team to delete enemy
This domain and one or two of the earlier versions have the following things in common: get the newest dps source or perish in RNG. 12-1-1 is designed to be trivialized by dendro. So you have to grind for dendro character and gear (and maybe so to spend $$). 12-1-2 heavily depends on single target dmg source *that can target air target* . So without dendro team and that single target dps source *for air targets* , 12-1 is an RNG feast -- 12-1-1 for freezing the big doggos in their correct pose (ie. not in the air, close together) and 12-1-2 for movesets that leaves the thing near ground. One chamber RNG dependent is perhaps a kind of an experience. Two chamber conditional on each other's RNG is just annoying. 12-2 and 12-3 are easy for anyone who can clear the previous Abyss 12s -- because they are not RNG dependent. So at least the design of this Abyss 12 has that going for it.
I had a lot of trouble with this abyss rotation, took me like 40 attempts to get it done. My main dps team is HuTao/ZL/XQ/Yelan, and hoyo just straight up DON'T WANT you to use it on the first half. Rift hounds and Black Knights in a row. But I needed a good single target dps team to deal with mecha birb. But if you don't have a good shielder on the second half, lawachurls kill you in a single hit. After MANY tries, I was able to do it with childe international in the first half and HuTao team on the second half. Took 2:57 on 12-3 but I got it. I hate the abyss xD
I was actually silent raging for this one. I had 6* going into floor 3 and then I just either had someone die or I realized it wasn't a 3* run so I had to reset, over and over, with multiple team setups. Comically I ended up getting 3* with an extremely scuffed, underbuilt team with lvl 65 Nahida (who died at the end but left her dendro mark to trigger the last needed reactions). Such a rollercoaster.
As a F2P myself, it's not hard to imagine that one of us have a few C0 5 stars now though it wasn't like that in the past. I myself have 16 though did get lucky with multiple banners on winning 50/50s.
I managed to complete Abyss Floor 12 with 3 stars, in my opinion 12-2 was really challenging. The lawachurls hit incredibly hard, and even though they are easy to avoid, one hit will absolutely devastate you, not to mention the timing. These were my team comps First Team: Kazuha, Diona, Raiden, Xingqiu Second Team: Yoimiya, Zhongli, Xiangling, Yelan
It's not that my characters are not strong. Genshin went crazy to put those opponents and put a lot of HP on them. Why the F they add thunder manifestation in Abyss 12th floor. Even my full bloom team which cleared each floor in 12th within 40s, took 2mins to complete in current Abyss.
I used International first half and Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki hyperbloom on second half. It destroys tje TM very quickly. And I somehow survived those lavachurls.
would say 12-3 was the most difficult one for me could only get 35 stars tried that floor alone 12 times :( the flying chicken side is ridiculous took me about 2 mins to do that so no time for second chamber cause the geo eremite is insanely tanky as for the 12-1 its just annoying cause the thunder bird keeps teleporting
Loved this abyss, struggling to find two teams that could 3 star all floors at once was challenge but eventually made it with childe international and nahida hyperbloom though i suspect meta geo would work for second half too
I actually used an off meta team this abyss run and managed to 36 star it. Itto, zhongli, nahida and beidou, crystallize activates tri karma purification and they actually carried my other team because I didn't have bow user for the drake in the other team so I couldn't hit it for most of the fight hahaha
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we got kiana and mash how nice
how did you made the thundering Manifestation dont move like for 5-10 secs? is that a bug or an anti movement via Geo construct?
Nah the hardest one is still the one with Kairagi variant that hard to suck, with floor 12 bullshit leyline making your ER useless/harder ER management. Hightide, lowtide bullshit.
Community: We want more challenging content!!!
Hoyo: Okay, here's a boss that just eats up time for your abyss runs.
This has always been the case. Hoyo always puts in enemies that have huge wind ups or invul periods just to screw us over.
I didn’t think they’d make the abyss straight up annoying
@@AquaticNebula that’s literally the only way they make abyss harder lol
While it does suck, it's better than a no-brainer abyss like the last cycle. Though they should honestly start finding ways to make bosses hard without just making them jump all over the place.
Though I heard there's a way to make this boss stick to one place without moving around, no RNG involved. Haven't looked it up yet
@@AquaticNebula The annoyance and invul periods are actually okay for me. The locking of line up isn't. This is the first time I actually had a hard time finding a perfect team to clear the last floor without restarting everything (I still did with Raiden National and Ayaka Freeze). If I had a hard time with multiple 5* already on my list, what more of F2P or fresh players?
For new players ! You dont need to do it all chambers at first cycle. For example once you get 3 star at 12-1its done. If you struggle 12-2 you can start all again and go full energy to 12-2. It doesnt matter if you finish 5 min at 12-1 no problem bcs you already got 3 star.
So you can do all chambers with all different teams. It doesnt matter. 3 stars are counted independently.
Yep pretty sure going back to get missing stars is normal for an average player. Saving up bursts can decide your run
Ive doing this since a lot of time ago,one of the best "tricks" to use in the abyss,it saves you a lot of time and make the abyss easier
the problem is that they already be killed on 12-1 by those hounds by bleeding that ruins your team comp onwards. those who had built solid hyper bloom will win the the floor. Because only all first chambers are the problem.
Even better: optimize your teams for 12-3 first, you can go back to the previous chambers more easily if thats already at 3*s.
Yeah this abyss was hard but it was more kinda irritating. You couldnt use frost in 2nd team because of ice lawachurl. The aeonblight drake keeps flying, and floor 1 has too much HP, doggo plus thunder bat. I cleared it 36 stars, but it would be very hard for those who dont have many 5 stars
Yeah, exactly, the hard part comes from the restrictions it imposes. Second half has Cryo Mitachurls AND Thunder Manifestations so it automatically locks your Electro and Cryo DPS characters. A lot of people use Raiden National and Ganyu/Ayaka teams in one of the halves, but they can't technically use those characters in the second half. Unless you use Melt Ganyu with Xiangling. I personally switched out Kazuha with Xiangling in Ayaka's team. This obviously ruins your freeze sometimes, but what can you do?
And finally, when I got to 12-3-1 I realized I didn't have a bow character to take down the Aeonblight Drake. When I farmed him for boss materials, he was dead before flying away, I didn't realize he spends 90% of the time in the air. So I had to restart and add a bow character in order to get 36 stars
Tbh I would rather abyss be hard and give better rewards then the snooze fest it usually is. But hoyo said they dont want to make harder end game content to not "stress" players. Which begs the question wtf did they make this abyss for? Unless.... they lied. They dont care about stressing players, they just want more money xD
@@raulmaltrain6893 you need C6 noelle and its not f2p friendly.
@@nickp8041 they are obviously lying, they don't give af, they're just greedy
@@nickp8041 abyss isn't end game content. It's event.
Im so glad that I force built Mono Geo team when Itto was released. Along side with Gorou Albedo Zhongli. I dont use them daily but they are the most consistent team for me in Abyss. This patch Abyss is so hard and tricky, and highly elemental dependant. And im so glad the mono geo team saves me every single time.
Edit: I used Raiden National for first half except that I switched out Xingqiu to Yelan for her bow. (I usually use Xingqiu in my past Abyss).
I used mono geo in the 2nd half and it was fine. It's the only abyss team that's very consistent. Unless they bring back the pyro heralds.
@@iturnedmypikachuintoararecandy oh yes yes i forgot about those heralds, those shields are pain in the ass! I usually use raiden national for that not geo
Monogeo in the 2nd half for me. The thing about monogeo is that they're not the best for every abyss, but rarely you have an Abyss cycle that counters them. Not the strongest, but very consistent
@@nhaan4178 nice! We’re on the same boat.
But actually I use monogeo in every Abyss for monthsssss, ever since I started 36star it was all with monoGeo either in first half or second half. It was always the team for my in Abyss cuz they work all the time.
@@alwaysmycamera Same for me. Eversince I got Itto on his first banner, he's never absent from my Abyss run. I don't use him in overworld anymore because you can Ushi oneshot everything and it's not fun. I usually use monogeo for Boss chambers and Ayato hyperbloom with Kazuha for mob chambers
This spiral abyss was a HUMBLING experience. I've been 36 starring for months but now I'm back to 35 starring. I won't give up but my first team for the first half is as strong as it can get and I'm not sure I can clear chamber 3 fast enough without having to change team (which will make it more difficult to finish the chamber 1 and 2 easily).
Fr I’ve been 36 starring but occasionally 34 and this time I got 34 😔 it’s been a while
Chamber 3 second half actually quite easy and can be clear in 1 minutes, so only for 1st half are abit harder but you have like 2 minutes to clear it for 3*
Oh! How I wished Scara would be released right now. It would be hella fun taking down aeonblight drake fighting in the air
My childe international team comp cant beat aeon Drake on 12-3 first chamber. I call it skill issue cus I cant aim bahahaha
pls i went from 35 to 32 this is beyond embarassing
One tip: For 12-2 try to stay with the bow/staff holding knights so others will come to you if you dont have CC
nahida hyperbloom go brrrrr
go to the a better position for 12-2 first half (the spawn of the next round) they will charge and group up pretty nicely. then use sucrose or xiao to kill them. if u use zhong li, then your dodge skills will be put to a test. the pyro spears will create shield if they attack a shield (zhongli, diona, noelle etc)(crystallize also).
And try to avoid using shields. You will need to avoid attacks anyway since these knights abilities work well on shields.
@@muhammaddanial8960 Fun fact: The knights are so badly designed Sucrose's E and Q knock them away instead of pulling them in.
@@gr33dl0cknein3 you do realize there's weight difference among the monsters right? Just like how people are having a hard time pulling in Kairagi. Yeah right, anything that is not easy to beat = badly designed. Says the DA who doesn't even know programming nor developed a game before lmaooo.
I felt the 12-2 to be the most difficult, taking 2 min even with my best team...
i only had difficulty on the aeon boss one, i didnt know that you need to have an archer to shoot its wings. I used raiden,yae,bennet and kazuha, so i reset and replaced yae with fishl. But the rest of the run are quite easy.
@@josepht5141 lmao yeah, I had to start from 12-1 after getting to 12-3 because I didn't had a archer in 1st half.
@@josepht5141 well to be fair it doesn't start like that in the overworked and most people kill it before it gets to that point
@@josepht5141 aeon is pretty much a punching bag if your smartphone dont stutter.
12-2 is ass, those power rangers are so hard to group without Venti/Kazuha, i mainly use national team and sucrose taser.
Kazuha for the 4 tanky rangers on 12-2, and Yelan for the flying robot bird on 12-3 got the job done for me on my third try. I’d say this is the hardest one in awhile, which was nice since I’ve been getting bored.
Can't stress enough the first sentence of this video, being the most difficult Abyss 12 to date. While those with headroom in their team comps can breeze it past with just overwhelming damage, anyone that was at the edge, is even more so now.
If I'm not wrong the HP pool jumped from 15m to 20m on this Abyss rotation, and it's really insane to think about, even if we account for groupability and stacking of AoE damage. I used to have HP pool chart at hand to check, but lost it after using it as proof on an argument that Abyss is getting harder, but also more annoying at times ( invulnerable states suck ). We've come from sub 6m HP IIRC to 8-10-12-15 with some drops in-between.
I don't like Abyss just getting tankier as it gets, because endgame players should breeze it through ( 36* since Aug 21, started Feb 21. ). It was said not that long ago, that HoYo doesn't want to give us more levels for the challenge, because it makes people pull their hair out... but if they make Abyss 12 in itself so much harder to finish, that's gonna make players pull their hair too, as they know they've invested and mastered their teams, and they aren't weak usually.
Due to HoYo not willingly wanting to give a challenge above Floor 12 ( which I'd find solution to creeping Floor 12 ), making it slowly harder creates an odd vacuum of power creep, that didn't exist at the beginning. Sure characters have gained better comps and they do deal more damage, but to get on that level... isn't exactly easy or small feat. If you invest correctly on one cycle, you'll be blown in the other with no way to recoup. If that isn't the frustration they wanted to avoid in increasing Abyss levels, I don't know what is.
This creeping of a floor is a solution looking for trouble, which is not having hard enough endgame content, which they could easily make if they wanted to, but as they said previously, are not willing to make. Instead they are doing exactly what they wanted to stop, making players frustrated at Abyss. Where they want to put the 'good enough challenge' keeps being pushed further and further, and it only caters to those that are willing to push for that limit. That's not a big portion of players to keep satisfied, when other venues are available to keep them satisfied.
I like challenge, but I do not like seeing people getting shafter for my sake of challenging my own investment and game knowledge, or lack of it when I can brute. I do like the idea of having favourable teams to keep Spiral Abyss easier, but I do not like the forceful way of having to creep the difficulty according to the favourable team. That's just shutting the door for even trying it out. There is already enough people that do not want to do Abyss because it just gets crazier over time, making that count larger by creeping up numbers, is doing exactly what they wanted to avoid with not adding more Abyss Floors... It's not that people's characters are getting weaker, but the requirements for same level of achievement are being pushed up. This gives despair.
And, no I don't advocate for the old 1.x Abysses which would be a sneeze with current game knowledge and released characters, but I'd like them to find actual balance to hardness of Abyss. This is the wrong direction of that, and very hard steering on it.
This. This should be top comment
I was wondering how floor 11 gets easier timewise, but floor 12 gets harder with every try 🤣
This was definitely the hardest abyss for me we had in a long time, I was able to 1st try 36 most of the recent abyss and if I didn't just needed a few extra tries. with this one I needed 32 fights to complete it, mainly because I needed to full energy start the chambers and change my teams twice due to the behavior of the aoenblight and the lawachurls instakilling my teams a lot, the manifestation isn't too hard on its own but barred me from using my raiden and made it hard to use eula as well.
The c6 Tignari 6 shots plus q dmg is so crazy and satisfying to watch
Hoyo: "we don't want to give players anxiety"
Also hoyo:
🤣🤣
I actually like the increased difficulty, if you feel anxiety instead of enjoying the challenge then abyss content may not be for you
It doesn't really that hard. I think player is just overrating this abyss y'all just overwhelmed because it's just a new set of enemies, next week or two all of the players will be 36 starring abyss with ease.
And if you mean you are just joking, believe me I get your joke but let's be real spiral abyss is not that really hard anymore 😅😅😅
@@skypianoprogression1942 thats why most games of this style give small rewards for doing things like this, issue is, genshin locks a decent chunk of primos behind abyss, if you dont do it youre punished by getting less characters
in a character collection game
you miss the one more key word my dude,
"we don't want to give players MORE anxiety"
spiral abyss already anxiety enuf
I first played this game at 2.3 patch, & im able to 36* abyss since the 3rd month i played this game. And this abyss is actually the first time I struggle since my first 36* run. It actually fun to be able to have some challenges again.
Weird thing about 12-2-1 is the way that the chasm mobs get staggered. When overloaded they seem to stagger off to the side which made grouping with rational a complete nightmare. You can sort of group the first wave by just walking to the other side of the chamber but one of the pyro guys might be a bit slow or hang out in the back
This is the first abyss I struggled with on my main account but cleared easily on my second account and all thanks to Yoimiya!
The fact that you were able to clear abyss 12 twice the day it was released, and post a well-edited video and guide. You have my respect and thanks.
This abyss made me use my Yoimiya for the first time in abyss, and that surprisingly works well. Usually would bring Hu Tao if the enemy is mostly cryo or electro, but the Thunder Bat moves a lot and it's kinda hard for my stamina drained C0 Hu Tao
same for me but after that i had to change it back cuz hu tao dmg is just broken and yoimiyas aint unfortunately
Yup im glad pull Yoimiya, shes Actually Kindda Meta in terms of Annoying/Flying enemy, unlike Hutao
@@Solr084 I think Yoimiya single DMG is strong as Hutao?? its just Hutao deal more DMG on BURST right?
@@swordmaster4448 it's mainly coz hu tao has higher multipliers on her CA and she has no ICD, while Yoimiya only has strong multipliers on her 3rd and 5th NA, and if you even so much as dash or dodge, you have to redo her NA again to reach the 5th attack, hence why hu tao can dish out higher numbers than Yoi
@@swordmaster4448 yoimiya does higher single target dps, and is more braindead to boot
you just need different support, with a c6 yunjin being a VERY notable must have that allows yoimiya to pull ahead even further
Ngl,as a casual f2p mobile player,this abyss was hell for me.
Really ? I completed it without thinking on my mobile with random charecter
i don't think mobile is much worse, except for enemies spawning in 10 seconds late which is annoying as hell
This makes no difference to me because I can only clear floor 10 anyway.
Same here.
It wasn't really that bad of a struggle per se.. but it was annoying with that thundering manifestation with a melee characters dominated account 💀
@@propablyconfused can you upload video about clearing with random characters in your Channel?
Everything was pretty easy except Thunder Manifestation who keeps flying around and has quite a lot of hp on top of that. Also immune to electro which limits your team comps. Still got 36 stars with one straight run but it was definitely the most annoying part. Almost didn't make it since I was just spamming attacks at first.
yoi / yelan enjoyers: easy
or am i not the one to say that since i use yelan on other floor and forced xiao to beat the shit out of the bird
This abyss finally had some challenges for my teams. It's been a long time since the last time I had to think hard enough when picking teams
I've breezed past every abyss for a while now, and this is the first time in so long that I had to come back with a completely different team for certain chambers. More of this please, Hoyo! Very interesting run this time around
Try to complete this abyss with only 4 star characters and weapons.
Only just started the video and I already just wanna say I'm honestly kinda relieved to hear even you think it's so hard, bc that means the problem wasn't necessarily just me and I don't need to be too frustrated about having so much trouble with it
This batch of abyss gave me the most fun in while. Haven't felt this fun for the abyss for the better part of last year.
Its definitely one of the more difficult ones weve had in a while but i have to agree with you. Its gotten me excited to see what other teams i can clear the abyss with
yep after a long time , abyss made me think how to cycle each team with what characters each chamber , unlike just unga bunga in past with any
Managed Floor 12 / 36* after a bit of swiching arround characters. In the end an AOE group in the first half (Bloom) and Single Target (Yoimiya - Vape) in second half did the trick 😊
I didn't try on my first but these are the teams I used to finish this spiral abyss on my second:
Bennett, kazuha, xiangling and ganyu (ganyu used as a sub dps)
Yoimiya, yelan, zhongli and yunjin
thats my yoimiya team too! high five!
Why did I get the feeling that you somehow said "Sht" @6:57 and just cut the audio! hahah :D
i changed teams 4 times for this. It is indeed really hard. I had to sideline Zhongli for first chamber because the doggos were just annihilating me. Had to do 3 stars each chamber and just change up the team. It also helps if you know how to play the game, i guess i should learn it by now.
IMO, the hardest abyss was when it had Maguu Kenki, Primo geovishap, and Perpetual mechanical array - three world bosses with insane hp plus a leyline disorder that gives them res buff. This abyss seems hard because the last one was so easy. Any cursed/experimental dendro team could clear the last cycle LMAO.
Also, it is weird that thunder manifestation is in this because Yae is rerunning, and also weird that shield characters are not recommended in 1st half since Thoma and Layla are also in the banners. They always tailor the abyss to the character banner which is very odd for Hoyo this time.
Thunder Manifestation is indeed here because of Yoimiya. It is tailored for her
I felt so ashamed that I had to whip out Zhong Li so I didn't die to the 12-2-2 Mitachurls, but at least I wasn't anxious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In all seriousness I prefer this than being able to breeze through it with my strongest teams, Making me swap to a weaker team (in terms of my account) so I can clear effectively is a nice change of pace.
Thunder Manifestation fr fucked up my team comps i wanted to use.
Thats why i only got 2,3,3 stars on the first run...
With the second run i just capitalized on the already earned 3 & 3 stars and made a team to drop 12.1
This abyss was kinda hard. Previous abyss only took me 1-4 tries but I can't even count how many tries I took on this one. Did 1st half with Ayaka Diona Mona Venti but switched out venti with kazuha since he clears faster than venti and used Yelan Xingqiu Xiangling Bennett for 2nd half
Breezed through the previous abyss without retrying any floor but this one damn xD As a purely mid-range mobile player (dunno how you guys play on PC i feel like I'll lose my fingers) shooting the 12-3 boss's weak spots is hell, and I don't even know why my shots don't paralyze it at all sometimes. Good thing international is a great speedrun team and that yoimiya can take care of the other half
I’m surprised people are saying this. I think having 10 built characters will always make you get 36 stars. And out of those 10, 2 or 3 will be highly invested. I’m sure if you’ve cleared abyss before, you’ll be able to do it again this time with some adjusting of your characters
@@nothing3887 i already 36 starred it the same day lmao. I've been clearing abyss for about a year now and it's just that this update was a bit more difficult than the previous ones
@@gin-chan6660 Yeah I misread!
I used the Nahida team on my Abyss too, but used it for the second chamber.
I used my Freeze Ayaka on the first chamber - Noblesse Diona, VV Kazuha, Tenacity-TTDS Mona, Blizard Ayaka.
wow. i actually 36 stars this one on my first try. hearing people struggle w/ this one makes me feel a little proud w/ myself.
from not being able to 36* to finishing it w/ ease as an f2p
ayoooo whats your team?? im ar 58 f2p but still struggling ;-;
@@zyzyzyy4878 ive 36*d since 1.2 but i'm f2p so i can tell you my teams, this one was def harder than previous ones tho:
1st half u can use any of these:
Cyno, dmc/nahida, fischl/yelan, kuki
Hu tao, albedo, yelan, yunjin/thoma/jean (if you can't dodge)
2nd half:
Hu tao, yelan, xingqiu, xiangling
Raiden, xiangling, yelan/xingqiu, bennett
Yelan, xiangling, xingqiu, bennett
Hu tao, kazuha, yelan, thoma
After 36*ing it, I tried a bunch of diff comps and eula and ayaka comps just weren't it for this abyss because there were a lot of enemies that moved a lot or could not be frozen so ayaka's freeze didnt work and my eula, despite doing 400k bursts, just did not have enough dmg for aeroblight drake cause he's a ruin enemy so he has physical resistance.
for me this was the easiest 36 star since release but i must say that the 2 teams i have build were perfect picks for the enemies so i it was 50% luck i guess
@@pokemaster3900 ohhhh thanks for the tips, I retried with doing a national team at second chamber and a freeze team on the first and it works tysmmm
Yeah it was my easiest abbys so far.
Tips for players who struggle - most national/international variants can generally handle top side easliy. Rational version might struggle a bit when it comes to 12-1-1 and 12-2-1 due to the comp being mainly single target and 12-3-1 cuz u dont really have a bow to break the boss. International is the opposite where it will be exceptional on first 2 chambers. I find it more easier if u kill the pyro husks on 12-2-1 first and then focus the hydro husks on first wave since the hydro ones usually always comes close to you but the pyro ones can do rnaged atks as well as close range atks.
Generally for the 2nd side hyperbloom and hutao variants are recommended. U can also use yoimiya comps as well but it wont work as well as hutao or hyperbloom especially in 12-3-2.
If u want healing for the wolf chamber on top side and u dont want to or dosnt have room for a healer on ur team,u can consider picking up a hp restoration effect card as a option.
I managed to 36 star after a few tries but I definitely cut it close in 12-3 as i completed it with like 5 seconds to spare. Still, this abyss wasn't really that hard for me personally. I used Yae-Fischl-DMC-Kazuha for the first half and XL-XQ-Benny-Ayato for the 2nd half and it did the job well
That second team is by far my favorite team lmao so OP
Waiting for your C6 nahida showcase IWTL!! Excited to see her power
36 stars here:
The 12-3 1st half is by far the most time consuming, at least before I bring archer into it since the main issue is that Aeon just keep on flying.
My teams are:
Shogun, Kazuha, Yae, Bennet (I tried another run, changing it to Diona with elegy, I got better time) for 1st half
Nahida, Xingqiu, Nilou and Kokomi for second half (this time deletes enemy so fast) for the second half
I will say though I am a bit lucky on my pulls and some of them have their dedicated weapon (Nahida, Nilou and Yae) and also some cons (yae at c2, Nahida at c1)
By far really difficult abyss for F2P, but I'm sure there's more skilled player than me that just know what team to bring haha
Edit: I'm dumb, I thought Aeon is on 12-2, it's on 12-3.
So you used an electro team for the 1st half? No wonder it took you the longest, I'm surprised you even 36 star it with that team.
@@meatobagan yeah, it's fine though, my issue is the Aeon flying initially and I don't have archer (brinv bennet instead) so iirc my first run for the aeon chamber (i forget if it is 12-2 oe 12-3) it takes ages since Yae is the only one doing damage, but I swapped bennet with Diona and it cuts the time by a full minute. I finish abyss with 46 seconds time remaining. Nilou Nahida team is just way too OP.
My yae is hyper invested, she deals like 17k per shot without buff or resonance, so my electro team is fine.
I don't see anything that makes it slow with electro team on first half, thunder manifestation is second half.
I was thinking about trying it tomorrow first half being yae miko venti tighnari and jean as back up healing and next team being nahida ayato kuki and kazuha
12-2-2 actually goes pretty smooth for diluc given a good shield.
- Diluc Enthusiast
My man 🤝
Yup, I just ungu bunga with diluc and raiden teams. Managed to full-star with different teams on all 3 floors.
I bet Diluc had nothing to do with how smooth that run went, it was all thanks to your shielder.
@@beanswater Diluc, Diona, Kaeya, Kazuha. Smooth because of eyeframes, and pyro counters both cryo and electro lawachurls.
Could clear it under a minute with benett without diona's shield.
Yoimiya yelan yunjin zhongli made it a breeze as well
I was going to say I found it easy but I did throw all my saved primogems at the banner for Nahiha C2 and a Yoimiya alongside a Kokomi and Yae Miko.
My other team is C2 Itto+redhorn geo Supremacy with Ningguang, Zhongli and C6 Gorou.
Saving all primogems now for Raiden Banner 50/50.
this abyss so much fun than the previous abyss. the mob so tanky and we could feel the power of our character that we build monthes to the fullest.
Your videos butter my biscuits thank you
I breezed through this abyss pretty easily but I had to swap my team for 12-3-1 for a bow character to get the flying metal chicken
Teams I used:
Bennet, Kazuha, Fischl, Xingqiu
Zhongli, Xiao, Albedo and Jean
I honestly felt like 12-2-2 was going to be super annoying for my Xiao team but it was surprisingly easy
Thunder Manifestation was as annoying as I predicted though I was still able to get 3*
Same. From the video, it looks like geo mc ult can block thinder manifestation's path which i did not know. Mf keep dashing from one end to the other of the arena.
That's why I have all of my characters at least Lv. 80 with high talent levels, proper weapon and artifact sets, even the said artifacts don't have good rolls in it. I believe it's better to have the flexibility to build a good comp when dealing with different situations rather than having few, well-optimized characters on a limited comp and try to brute force the way each side of the floor. I tried different teams and failed (of course), but that's what I find it fun with these challenges. What I discovered is that Bloom team with Nahida is quite effective on the first half of chamber 1 and 2, Thundering Manifestation is still the same and Aeon is just a flying Ruin Guard. A little challenging, but easily doable even for F2P.
all? of your characters? I mean I understand having a lot of characters at 80 for flexibility but really amber? Lisa?
@@yveltalsea Not entirely. I had my Amber at 70, but as for Lisa and Kaeya, well they're both 90 actually 😂
I still 36* full-cleared the abyss first try, but I definitely felt the sizeable hp pool increase with the enemies. This was honestly pretty fun.
Love the more tips section, usually everyone just shows 4* clears but not actual tips
Loved the Geo recognition, although i don't agree that this is the hardest abyss we had.
Him: f2p friendly
Literally his 4-star charactes: C6 and Nahida
Ayaka and Kazuha really carried my ass in this abyss
I don’t know what i would do without these two in the top half
I ran Raiden hyper carry on the top half and Nahida Hyperbloom with Kuki on the bottom half.
This Abyss cycle was BRUTAL but I'm glad to see hyperbloom continue to be usable but at the same time, quite sad that freeze isn't usable.
This is exactly what I did too. Nahida hyperbloom is no joke she was destroying everything
Thank you I was stuck on this abyss as an f2p that just started 36 staring
I've been breezing through the abyss for awhile now but that stupid electro bird boss took me a few tries...God I hate that thing so much. Not only does it just move too much but it kept one shotting my ganyu :c
Okay but why did you have such good luck with it. It just stayed still for you! Wtf lmao
This abyss cycle was the most fun a had in Genshin this year. Keep it up HoYo. Don't let anxious people dictate how you design your game.
First time in a while that I completed each 12 room with 10/20 seconds left. Felt satisfying, especially because my Nahida was dealing 35/40k per proc. I had good buffs.
It was my first time fighting that robot nugget so I didnt know I need a bow character for that boss. My Ganyu finally goes out from the coal mine after a long time. I still suffered with my potato phone.
Same when I started my international rotation i was shocked when the chicken flew completely out of childe and xl's reach lol. Learned my lesson
@@f4llenleaves atleast it sounds like you had Childe to shoot it. I had to restart the whole floor
same this is my first time figuring it out so i only have 33 stars blind run. gonna try for 36* this weekend.
I honestly was able to complete the new abyss on my first try. This is my first time doing that, nahida, raiden and yelan helped me speed run the first half of floor 12 which gave my Freeze team extra time to kill everything and get burst back.
Floor 12-2 first half was easy-peasy with my baby Tighnari. Honestly, even as an F2P, I didnot feel the abyss 'TOO HARD'. Like if you used your teams correctly, it was easy. took me 3-4 trials to 9 star floor 12. ^^
Thank you for the tips, wish me luck on doing it
Nilou + nahida bloom literally shredded the abyss for me 😭 and ayaka freeze with the occasional yoimiya team
Yea I had an easy time with Nahida + Kazuha + Fischl + Kokomi on mob side and Zhongli + Yoimiya + Bennett + Xingqiu on the boss side, I just turned off my brain and spammed normal attack.
People really underrate Yoimiya too much, even the 4 Lawachurl floor died to Yomiya spam, who cares about AoE when I only need to press a single button 90% of the time.
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat well this is a yoimiya cycle
I was waiting for someone to say nilou+nahida bloom team destroys the second half of each floor 😭
Huh? Didn't know it was perceived as difficult tbh. Tried it yesterday, so before watching this video just now, and got 36* first attempt with Keqing, Kazuha, Bennett, Sara first half and Hu Tao, Zhongli, Xingqiu, Ganyu second half. 12-3-2 was somewhat close with 15 seconds left, but all else was easy imo. I disliked the mechanical triangle boss from last abyss much more than whatever is in the current one. Guess I just used the right teams straight away.
Despite the challenges, I found this abyss to be rather fun! It took many... many... MANY... restarts for me as a low-mid spender BUT 36* nonetheless
This was a great guide bro thnkx
i did the first chamber without bow character 😂 still got 36*. i used nahida yae kazuha kokomi first half and hutao yelan xq zhongli 2nd half. i struggled a lot on 12-3 bcs of not bringing a bow character and spent 2 minutes on 1st half, then hu tao just destroyed everything on 2nd half under 40 sec
edit: this is also thr first time in a while that i didnt use freeze ayaka and melt ganyu/raiden national for my floor 12 run. they’re usually my go-to
This abyss was such a pain! I struggled a lot until I found the right teams that worked for me. I've used a Hypercarry Raiden (C0) team first half with Kazuha (C0), Benny (C5), Sara (C4). For the second half I used Reverse melt Ganyu (C0) with Xianling (C6), Sucrose (C6) and Zhongli (C0). All of the teams with f2p gear and ER based. I barely managed to 36* it with just a few seconds left. In retrospect, bringing a cryo dps to 12-2 is not the best idea, but XL pyronado came in clutch a lot by melting the shields and then is easier from there, also a lot of dodging/i-framing because even though I had Zhongli, they do break through his shield a lot, which also make it hard to aim with Ganyu, but definitely doable. Overall, it was a nice challenge, even as a f2p player.
Finally an abyss that challenges us
Let’s be honest, it’s usually a walk in the park, this one actually made me use national team again
It's different for me, I grouped up people I normally wouldn't put together just to get through the floors 😂
I tried Ganyu reverse melt with Nahida for that 12-3 boss and it made it so easy
Those abyss guys are tanky and theres so many of them and the electro fly thing moves way to much
I miss the ruin serpent at least he stops moving for a few seconds
Only after I learned DO NOT bring a shielder to 12-2 that I managed to 3 star it, otherwise the enemies wil infinitely shield themselves and frustrate you to no end.
3.2 has the hardest abyss… xD
Didnt find any obstacle at all
Ez 36 stars
Good bye my comfort zone the previous abyss, i will miss you and you will be forever remembered
my hatred for the electro oceanid is deep and eternal, every night i see it in my deepest nightmares, taunting me from 1 meter of the ground where xiangling's pyronado can't hit it.
Is it? maybe it's because I'm an old player but to me this was the best abyss so far, the only annoying thing is the electro oceanid but a single target team comp easily destroys it
This abyss made me use literally all the elements
My teams were:
First Half - Ayaka (Cryo), Venti (Anemo), Raiden Electro, Bennett (Pyro)
Second Half - Hu Tao (Pyro), Zhongli (Geo), Nahida (Dendro), Xingqui (Hydro)
All Archons was used, and Hu Tao Burgeon is so fun imo and Nahida killing the bat so easy was so fun too.
Lejos el abismo mas dificil que he hecho, gracias por los consejos sirvieron. Saludos desde Chile.
What I find is that if you have all four archons you'll have quite an easy time this abyss:
- Venti: CC/Bow/4pcVV for Team 1
- Zhongli: Shielder for Team 2
- Raiden: DPS Team 1 (dog+chicken killer)
- Nahida: Slot this radish in either team to delete enemy
Thank you for the tips!
Done with ganyu-kazuha-bennett-xiangling / zhongli-xingqiu-yelan-yoimiya, the husks are very tough though. Finally, the challenging abyss!
1st half: HP 🧽
2nd half: *ｓｕｒｖｉｖｅ*
This domain and one or two of the earlier versions have the following things in common: get the newest dps source or perish in RNG. 12-1-1 is designed to be trivialized by dendro. So you have to grind for dendro character and gear (and maybe so to spend $$). 12-1-2 heavily depends on single target dmg source *that can target air target* . So without dendro team and that single target dps source *for air targets* , 12-1 is an RNG feast -- 12-1-1 for freezing the big doggos in their correct pose (ie. not in the air, close together) and 12-1-2 for movesets that leaves the thing near ground. One chamber RNG dependent is perhaps a kind of an experience. Two chamber conditional on each other's RNG is just annoying.
12-2 and 12-3 are easy for anyone who can clear the previous Abyss 12s -- because they are not RNG dependent. So at least the design of this Abyss 12 has that going for it.
I had a lot of trouble with this abyss rotation, took me like 40 attempts to get it done.
My main dps team is HuTao/ZL/XQ/Yelan, and hoyo just straight up DON'T WANT you to use it on the first half. Rift hounds and Black Knights in a row. But I needed a good single target dps team to deal with mecha birb. But if you don't have a good shielder on the second half, lawachurls kill you in a single hit.
After MANY tries, I was able to do it with childe international in the first half and HuTao team on the second half. Took 2:57 on 12-3 but I got it.
I hate the abyss xD
First time since 2.1 needed to put some thoughts and apply some strategies for the abyss. Lategame content is real
Nahida Ganyu melt allowed me to finish the Drake in 18 seconds. I could’ve done it faster tbh, but it was the best I could do 😮💨 proud of it
I was actually silent raging for this one. I had 6* going into floor 3 and then I just either had someone die or I realized it wasn't a 3* run so I had to reset, over and over, with multiple team setups. Comically I ended up getting 3* with an extremely scuffed, underbuilt team with lvl 65 Nahida (who died at the end but left her dendro mark to trigger the last needed reactions). Such a rollercoaster.
As a F2P myself, it's not hard to imagine that one of us have a few C0 5 stars now though it wasn't like that in the past. I myself have 16 though did get lucky with multiple banners on winning 50/50s.
bro your entire vibe was different
i can just tell this was not scripted
Quality as always 👌🏻✨️
This is the first time in more than a year where I had to use a different team for each chamber lol
I love how starting from third chamber he verbally destroys everyone from childe to capitano.
I managed to complete Abyss Floor 12 with 3 stars, in my opinion 12-2 was really challenging. The lawachurls hit incredibly hard, and even though they are easy to avoid, one hit will absolutely devastate you, not to mention the timing.
These were my team comps
First Team: Kazuha, Diona, Raiden, Xingqiu
Second Team: Yoimiya, Zhongli, Xiangling, Yelan
It's not that my characters are not strong. Genshin went crazy to put those opponents and put a lot of HP on them. Why the F they add thunder manifestation in Abyss 12th floor. Even my full bloom team which cleared each floor in 12th within 40s, took 2mins to complete in current Abyss.
There. This is your endgame content. You guys should be happy now.
I used International first half and Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki hyperbloom on second half. It destroys tje TM very quickly. And I somehow survived those lavachurls.
would say 12-3 was the most difficult one for me could only get 35 stars tried that floor alone 12 times :( the flying chicken side is ridiculous took me about 2 mins to do that so no time for second chamber cause the geo eremite is insanely tanky as for the 12-1 its just annoying cause the thunder bird keeps teleporting
Loved this abyss, struggling to find two teams that could 3 star all floors at once was challenge but eventually made it with childe international and nahida hyperbloom though i suspect meta geo would work for second half too
i wanted to use my raiden hypercarry for 12.3.2 but that thunder manifestation at the beginning makes it impossible 😭😭
I actually used an off meta team this abyss run and managed to 36 star it. Itto, zhongli, nahida and beidou, crystallize activates tri karma purification and they actually carried my other team because I didn't have bow user for the drake in the other team so I couldn't hit it for most of the fight hahaha
Pretty happy that I can bust out my C6 Ningguang to teach the thunder bird a lesson
Yelan so op that I didn’t think to shoot it out the sky
Its a first time again in months that i had to switch teams in order to 3 star a floor
times like these makes me feel appreciative that i have yoimiya