The Chieftain vs. the T-72 - Legends of the Cold War
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- Amid heightened Cold War tensions, troops of Western democracies, such as the Royal Tank Regiment, stood ready to defend against a potential invasion by communist Eastern Bloc nations. Among the tanks that could have spearheaded the invading forces was the formidable T-72. However, in response, the British Army had its own champion, the Chieftain main battle tank. Join Richard “The Challenger” Cutland as he compares these legends and explores how they would have fared in a face-to-face confrontation.
Would the Chieftain, with its superior armor, take the crown, or could we see the T-72 run away with the champion title thanks to its agility and speed?
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Banning chieftain from new players is unfair to new players, we are waiting for the "chance" to get this tank for 2 years. If wg thinks Chieftain is balanced, why not give it new players too? If Chieftain is overpowered why can only good players play it anyway?
This. ☝
I personally prefer if there were no more Chieftains/BZ 176 added to the game. Even if that means, that i won't be able to play one.
@@Brujah-zl5ym I can't really speak about CW, because I am somewhat of a new player. But I would REALLY not want to see more chieftains in random battles.
In an ideal world.. both the Chief and BZ176 would get nerfed, so it wouldn't really matter that you don't have the Chief for CW.
For me personally,having a tank to be that much better than anything else is a major design flaw of the competitive scene of this game.
what really drives this comment home was the latest competitive tournament, the teams were all chieftains and one fast med typically the CS-63 or one Object 279 (e) for home defence and stall, all of the teams were just mirror matches with 90% of the gameplay being chieftains, what fun, im sure that's because its a balanced tank...
Cuz WG is more cheezy than a brick of colby jack....just like how if someone wanted it, the M60 is also only a reward tank....cant get any of the cool stuff unless your a clan wars epeener.
I wish they talked more about night vision capabilities and optics quality. It's a huge factor outside the traditional "iron triangle" (mobility, firepower, protection).
well then it is only important to talk about the latest versions of Russian tanks, as earlier ones lack thermals for commander and were noticeably lower quality. But The latest iteration T-72B and T-90 can truly hold their own with sights for both that are made within Russia
Both were pretty much equivalent in those regards, both using infrared searchlights for night vision. They also both had Fully stabilized guns, Laser rangefinders, and Mechanical Ballistic Computers.
He said "The armour lacks the satisfaction of the Cheiftan's "
The T-72 has composite armour and the Cheiftan is just steel and the stillbrew is only rubber and steel added later so I don't know why he said that.
T-72 armor was crap & chieftain was much better.
@@paullakowski2509do you even know anything about the t-72 armor?
@@paullakowski2509 So how come Chieftain is gone with obsolescence while the T72 is knocking out Leopard 2 today?
@@rightiswrongrightiswrong806 Chieftain is an obsolescent tank that was replaced tank that was replaced by a better one. T-72 is an obsolescent tank forced to continue work despite its obsolescence. Can it knock out a Leopard II sure that doesn't make it a one-to-one equal or even on par. A Leopard I can kill a T-72 if it gets the drop on it.
@@elvanallen8832 t-72b uses NERA just like leopard 2, and this is the reason chieftain is gone, I had simple steel base Armor.
True, a lot of battles came down to who had the better crew, not the better equipment.
His representation of the "poor training, poor morale and poor leadership" of the russian army is reeking with bias and misinformation, which sadly is the norm in Europe and the US. But luckily for those of us who want the unvarnished truth, such claims never hold up to scrutiny. Those claims are just part of a propaganda effort by our media, burying the uncomfortable truth, and pushing a narrative that suits our NATO leader´s agenda. If anyone follows the conflict closely, and seeks information from both camps, you would immediately notice that those claims fall by the way side. If the russians were doing so poorly as the media suggests, and taking such "horrific" casualties, why haven´t they conducted full mobilizations? Meanwhile, Ukraine has conducted 15 rounds of mobilization!! Countless videos of people being snatched off the streets and sent to fight at gunpoint are all over the internet! And when you start to account for just how many pieces of heavy weapons were sent by NATO to Ukraine, reaching well into +10k, including tanks, APCs, IFVs, SPGs, MRAPs, M777, and the numerous aircraft, what happened to it all??
It turns out, we are being lied to, and the russians are doing much better than our leaders dare to admit. The training NATO gave has been close to useless, and the russians haven´t lost nearly as many T-72 as we were led to believe. Their crews aren´t "poorly trained and have poor morale". As Wally, the so called "super sniper" from Canada has admitted, they were being sniped by the T-72 from 8 to 10km away. That is not the work of poorly trained crews, is it?
Actually these two tanks met each other in Iran iraq war, where the Iranians used the chieftain (received during the shahs rule) and the iraqis the t 72 (received from the Soviet Union and manufactured locally).
Yes and Chieftain was a failure in Iran Iraq war
@@livingroomtheatre174crews ran away leaving the engines running,not the tanks fault.Kuwaitis used Cheiftains well,only losing the fight when they ran out of ammo
@@stevenbreach2561 Chieftain was a failure that is why Britain realised this quickly and switched onto Challenger series. Chieftain was pathetic in terms of power to weight ratio and hence it was slow. It saw frequent breakdowns. It was just like Jagdtiger in ww2
Fun fact also Chieftain also actually been destroyed T62 in that war
@@stevenbreach2561 It was a particularly bloody 10 year war and the iranians were suffering greatly from a lack of spare parts due to the arms embargo against them by western powers. Iraq on the other hand was given lots of equipment primarily by the USA (through third parties), so it wasn't an even situation.
Had the iranians just run away, the war wouldn't have lasted for as long as it did, nor would it have ended in a stalemate.
I can't be the only one surprised to that The Chieftain in this video is the tank not the man. Always great to hear from The Challenger.
In the Iran-Iraq War the brand new Iraqi T-72's were slaughtering the the old Mark V, but the later models with Stillbrew, digital FCS, laser-rangefinder, and thermal sight probably would have been the other way around.
I think a more fair Comparison would be Cheftain Mk. 10 vs T-64.
They faced each other in the Iran-Iraq War.
Funny, you never hear about it though. So idk who won in actual combat.
the best tank is the one that keeps working ...........just ask the germans in ww2
Totally agree the best tank is the ones with the best crew
And nobody mentions the secret wepon in the Chieftain - where's the BV?
It is apparent (ref the interview with Dag in the Tank museum video on the T72) that during the cold war period, at least, the East German crews were well trained.
So this video means we have got T-72 in WoT? 😂
Those Cold War documents are highly classified. 🤠-Ser_Remseldorf
Quite right Mr. Cutland - in warfare the best tank = vehicle x crew, else its just playing Top Trumps.
Chieftain Mk6 my favourite tank wotblitz❤
Does this guy know what he's talking about? Cuz the T-72 is way more amored than Chieftain
likely only played wot and only know physical thickness and not rha 😂
Chieftain armor is not that sofisticated, but its THICC
it works , that's all that mattered.
So, if the Chieftain was not exported... how come they turned up on the Iran/Iraq war?
The British sold a modified version called the Shiran 1 ( I think ) to Iran, which had a better engine. Technically not a Cheftain but basically is
mentioning it might mean they have to admit it was a death trap.
Or the October war on the golan heights. 80 cheiftains defeated 400 mainly made up of t62s. The chieftain is the world's best cold war tank. It showed it again and again.
@@chrismac2234 delusional
@@chrismac2234 Think you have it mixed up with the Centurion, the IDF never used Chieftains. The irony being that the Chieftain tank in Iranian service did poorly against T-62s despite being the successor to Centurion.
I was born & breed in West-Berlin back in the 70s so I was used to see the Chieftain manoeuvring through the streets of Berlin.
The Israelis consistently proved that British and American tanks were more than a match for the latest Soviet exports. Better trained crews (who were experts in long range gunnery) were also a decisive factor.
Chieftain, hull down and supported by other arms (and a devious obstacle plan) would have cut swathes through attacking Soviet armour. The biggest problem was British weakness against Soviet attack helicopters that could obliterate tanks.
I've been playing tanks for over 2 years now and can't get a chieftain
0:15 I think Soviet spearheaded use t64 or t80 not t72. But poland use t72
4:17 i think is because 50% of Soviet bridges cannot pass a 50 ton vehicle. preventing western tanks from using their soviet bridge
Sir, Only T-72 is cold war legend. It actually fought in many wars and showed its effectiveness for a mass produced tank.
T-72 and Chieftain Mk.6 are ready to be added in the game 🙂 Im joking but who knows😉 Btw pls add T-62 with 115 mm canon in the game. I cant understand why you dont did it already
yep Tier 11-12 the Chieftain no place in wot where tier10 max.
Can make easy Tier10+ lot of vehicle can choose
@@NorbertNagy-y8gChieftain Mk. 6 (has big cupola and very thin side armor) is a tier X heavy tank on WoT console and its not OP like T95/FV4201 Chieftain on PC, just a good tier X heavy tank. I believe its also added on chinese PC server
Original t62 116mm gun
@@taniotanev7942 never heard of 116mm. I know that T-62 has 115mm smoothborecanon
Man this always been my question since i started playing this game 10 years ago. I mean nowhere in the world except for museums you could see a T-62 with that 100mm gun while they have this very limited series tank in the game instead of normal T-62 with the 115mm smoothbore gun. I no longer play this but i still wonder why don't they add a proper T-62.
I wonder, how the pre-prepared defensive positions would have held up against Russian artillery barrages.
They wouldn't, most nato planning revolved around the front line being slaughtered then using nukes before the soviets.
@@torlekjpec5708 Fact free nonsense.
The front line was expected to slow the Russofascist advance long enough for reinforcements to be deployed & at all times, NATO air power was significantly superior to the Russofascists.
@@GARDENER42 "Russofascist" You're aware they sacrificed 25M people to fight against that very fascism a few decades prior ? Kids these days throwing buzzwords here and there not having a clue about what they mean.
NATO airpower is superior yes, this is precisely why Soviet/Russian air-defence is vastly superior. And we saw how efficient that can be in Ukraine. Ukraine had very few air defence systems, and yet the entire Russian airforce was pinned to the ground until Ukraine ran out of missiles.
@@Niitroxyde You're aware they were ALLIED to the Nazis for almost two years & prior to that, aided Germany in the secret training of the Luftwaffe & Wehrmacht between 1922 & 1933?
Are you denying Putin is a dictator & his regime an oppressive, nationalist, authoritarian, militarist one?
Kids?
Stupid thing to say, as I'm in my 60s & spent a third of my life serving in the RAF.
Ukraine hasn't run out of missiles, as demonstrated by RussoFASCIST aircraft staying away from unoccupied Ukraine.
"Hull down turret down" would have been a force multiplier with Still Brew armor and the CHieftains high rate of fire with APFSDS rounds.
Yes, and when each chieftain was operated by highly skilled crew, we can all see now how mordor can address this issue
Yea. I saw an L60 grenade on a panzer as it just left the hanger. Disconnect the auto change it was always much smoother then even if it wasn't allowed..
Both later went head to head in the Battle of the Bridges during Gulf War.
The chieftain was in fact tested in war. Ever heard of the Yom kipur war. 80 cheiftains defeated 400 t62s.
Were you a Junior Leader. Bovington 1982 to 1983?
started in 83 🙂
I was Junior leader from 82 to 83.. Bovington
@@dragoondf1 What Regiment did you go to ? 🙂
QDG..
The elephant in the room - one shot, carousel ammunition high in the hull around the crew, turret tossing olympics. The chieftain and friends would have had to be at a massive local disadvantage in numbers, local tactical failures or a failure of NATO logistics and resultant ammo shortages to not be able to stop the T-72s charging through the Fulda gap.
The T-72’s carousel is actually not that high up - it doesn’t go far above the turret ring, and there’s plenty of stuff in the low-profile hull to stop enemy shots from hitting the ready rounds there. The bigger problem is the extra 20-ish rounds stowed all over the turret and hull in much more vulnerable positions. Ukrainian T-72 crews tend to carry only the 21 rounds in the autoloader and they noticed that it made the tank much less susceptible to ammunition fires. Of course the problem is that the tank runs out of ammo much faster but it’s not such a big deal with the way the war is being fought over there (i.e. tanks making short sorties to support infantry attacks before returning to rearm and refuel).
Check out operation Nasr. Then think again.
British: The Chieftain is the world's most advanced MBT! (shows off tank slower than king tiger)
The World: Looks at definition of an MBT suggesting it should have better mobility than WWII era heavy tanks
In many ways, Chieftain is like Tiger. Slow, maintenance intensive, and in the early days, hideously unreliable. However, you wouldn't want to be the poor bugger in front of it when the shooting started, because you would likely be in an inferior machine, with thinner armour, and lower firepower.
However, as Tiger crews saw, quantity has a quality all of its own.
On the flip side of that equation is a line attributed to Pavel Rotmistrov after he supposedly surveyed the battlefield, and counted the smashed T34s, after the battle of Prokharovka. " The Red Army can do without victories like this."
You can only rely on quantity until your losses begin to outstrip production and/supply.
The noise from the L60 Engine is wrong, whats going on?
Glorious growling howl from the Chiefy
how would they hd performed against one another?
there's a simple answer, let's have a look at the iran-iraq war, where crews with comparable training levels faced off in soviet vs wesern armor of the era, and there's plenty of bad news for all the western tank, with chieftain getting penetrated frontally in the turret not only by the 125 but also from 115 shots
howon earth the tank museum spreads BS about the t72 armor is beyond me, for a time it was the most protected tank in the world by the ton/tank volume metric, and chieftain had nothing special in its armor whatsoever, just plain steel, stillbrew was an addon kit developed specifically after the lessons of the mentioned iran-iraqi wars!
Chieftain L60s... gotta love the smell of burning OMD 75. 😆
This Film is strange. As an Cold War Tanker in Baor he should have known thst they had to fight T 62 (until the mid 80s), T 64 and T 80. The 72 was the low cost Tank, the T 64 and T 80 were the high End Tanks. The Soviet Troops in East Getmany as the Spearhead of WP Forces had only the High End Tanks, no T 72. The East Germans had a few T 72, but I don't think Baor would meet them in their Sector. The Armor of the Chieftain was massive, but offered only very little Protection agains WP Weapons. Every Heat Projectile could defeat Chiegtains frontal Armor before Stibrew, even the 73 mm Gun of the Bmp 1. The main Problem for the Soviets were the poor fire Control Systems of their Tanks so it would be hard to hit an Barndoor for them. With their KE Rounds it was easier to hit, and the 115 and 125 mm had no Trouble defeating Chieftains Armor. If some T 55 with their 100 mm show up they had Trouble with their Apdsfs over 500 Meters, but Heat had no Problem when the hit. But, as said before, no T 55 in the Baor Sector in the 80s. Chieftain with those early Apds would have had real Trouble defeating T 64 or T 80 frontal Armor. Hesh against Composite Armor was more or less useless.
So Chieftain was not up to the Thread in the 80s. APDSFS round were introduced in the mid 80s, giving Chieftain and Challanger an Chance against T 64 and T 80. Somehow the Brits didn't get an Prooer Tank of their Production Lines in the later Years in the Cold War. This is weird because with Centurion they had an superb Tank in the 50 and 60. In the 70s an Cent with Diesel Engine, 105 mm L 7 with APDSFS and HEAT, Laser Range Finder and passive Night Devices could have been an better Tank, even in the 80s it could have been further upgraded with Era and an Thermal Sight.
and you did past the T-72's armour thicknesses... apparently you do not want to compare the two.
T72 hull has more armor that the cheiftans
Both Tanks Are can be destroyed by Anti Tank Missiles such as Russian Kornet, American made Tow and Javelin types.
Swedish Carl Gustav Recoliness Anti Tank Missile can be deadly too.
1 Chieftain will lose when it meet five T-72s.
Con esta noticia, mas que seguro se vienen los tier 11
Bruh t72 is way better armored then chieftain
Wouldn’t that make the T-72 heavier and therefore slower?
Bruh you’re talking shite.
@@ChewyAmpersandunfortunately for u, nope. Interior space is sacrificed for armor
@@kienngo4601 The Chieftains weighed around 55 tons and the early T-72s around 41 tons. I know increasing armour thickness isn’t the only thing you can do to improve the armour but a 14 ton difference is quite a big difference wouldn’t you say?
@@ChewyAmpersand well. Go wiki and search T72 frontal protection and chieftain frontal protection.
T72 is far more superior. Thats no doubt.
Even the noncomposite UFP Iraq T72 did better than chieftain
Infact, all soviet tank before 80-90 r some what better than their counter part.
Even the most basic T-72 armor package is a generation ahead of Stillbrew. Chieftain is T-62's contemporary and even then all it got going for it is better FCS/visibility and actual crew space, it's so horrendously underpowered (fewer hp/t than IS-2) i am not sure it can even be considered an MBT.
The rifled 120 is great at hitting soft targets at extreme ranges but i doubt it could ever be able to take on 80U front armor, which is why brits are finally moving onto Rh120.
when i can buy a t-72 in world of tanks?
Bring MODERN TANKS ON PC
T72? Cold War? You mean now war?
The Israelis managed against T-72s with Centurians into the Yom Kippur War so why they did not adopt the chieftan?
Because for political reasons the United Kingdom government banned Cheiftain sales to Israel...allegedly the Israeli miltary was quite keen on the Cheftain and withheld the recommendations that they garnered from the 2 test tanks they received in revenge
The british never sold the chieftain to he Israelis, instead they sold it to iraq or Palestine I forgot
@@socialistpastries.stooby No, to neither.
@@socialistpastries.stooby the British supplied 2 Cheftain tanks to Israel for trails and a purchase was on the horizon unfortunately the incumbent UK government at the time vetoed the deal for political reasons an improved varient of the Cheftain known as the Khalid was later supplied to Iran and used during the Iran/Iraq war
sorry but. lack of armour? T72? The one with composite armour? and the ability to survive hits from nearly everything at the time save for chiefitian? And only at close ranges was it weak to chieftian?
Чё это у Чифтена броня толще?
Тоже в ахуе
Had a chuckle at the start ,i joined R.EM.E IN 84 .Luckily i was a B mech ..What is it with with people ,no matter what we do as a country ,our kit is always written off as crap. Even now in ukraine it is all about Leopard and the (Abram which isn't even there) .When i was in Hohne Chieftain was usually being towed to the ranges lol..There where 4 RTR s and i never knew which one was which ie was 2 the jocks???
"The armor lacks the sophistication of the chieftains" yeah he's becoming senil now
As everything else, good on paper...
Does this guy know what he's talking about, "120mm" armour on the front of the hull 😅 its 450mm thick because of the sloped angle of the hull. The front of the hull is the thickest part of the armour, good news for the driver. The T72 needs to be faster than the chieftain so they can run away from the chieftains powerful gun.
Mr Hewes has a T34 in for some work. It has that normal v12 diesel in it and it runs, but it doesn’t run very well. It turns out a large part of the engine has escaped into the the oil filter. But it still runs. :o)
what T34? amerika or mean russia T-34
@@NorbertNagy-y8g do the two prototypes still exist?
@@teamidris 100% not working but it was put in some museum
I thinks a T-72 would face punch a Chieftain with no issue.
and why not adding t72 to wot blitz 💁🏻♂️?
Didn't Iran buy the Chieftain, & weren't they used in The Iran/Iraq War?
The British should donate these chieftain tanks to Ukraine. There should still be some laying around somewhere. The amaricans should donate their m60 tanks as well to Ukraine.
They sent Challengers and Abrams, none of them have made it past the first day of combat.
😂 how is second year of your 3 day war going... @@rightiswrongrightiswrong806
Well, first the chieftains would have had to get dressed.
T72 is still in use, Chieftan isn't. There is your answer.
Lol the only reason the t72 is still in service is because the nations where it is still in service with can't afford to upgrade to a more modern tank. 😂 that is the only answer.
@@noke258 What you say is partly true, but, even when new, a Chieftain was a ridiculously resource-hungry tank to keep it operational. The T-72 (by tank standards) was designed to be low-maintenance and incredibly reliable... The Chieftain was neither of these things. That's another reason why Chieftains are no longer in service anywhere.
As seen in current events in Ukraine (if you look at the reports from the few independent reporters who are trying to cover events on the frontline) Russian stuff just works, and continues to keep working - it's designed to do a job. Russian defence technology isn't always the most sophisticated but it works very well. Some Russian hardware is vastly more technologically advanced than NATO has....
If you look at the HiMars and artillery pieces that NATO has sent the Ukraine (the few bits that didn't go straight on the black market) even Ukrainian commanders have said that the NATO equipment needs so much downtime after heavy use and needs constant maintenance, but the Russian equivalents don't - they just keep on working even under heavy use/battlefield conditions.
Because Russia is poor
@@grantchallinor5263 Putin just went to North Korea with a begging bowl.
Buddy.. T72 gonna eat alive the cheiftain... Where the hell cheiftain fight??? Believe it or no that old T72 is way better than so many tanks... That's why is not coming to the game.. unfair
The T72s are proving to be junk pieces of metal. Everything in its brother is blowing them up without much of an issue and the tops pop so easily that I wouldn't even call it a tank.
@@mrg09211976t 72 was a nasty tank for its time. It's old compared to the tech it's fighting. Also remember that in war there is cloudy info.
@@mrg09211976 Since about 3 months after the start of the Ukraine conflict, you almost never see video of T-72's losing their turrets. The Russians made some modifications to lower the ammo carousel somehow and there was another modification to the loadout configuration that has mostly eliminated the ammo cookoff. The fact that the UK has now insisted that their Challenger not be used in the frontlines andd the fact that the Americans are dragging their feet about sending Abrams to the battle shows how potent the T-72 tank still is.
@@shawncollver8686 There are corpses of it all over the world blown up by people on horse back and camels. It never really met anything with armor until recently and it couldn't even handle a little mud.
@@ramrod9556 funny, they have Challengers are on the front line right now, and it takes time to approve sending Abrams anywhere since they are not approved for export. The Abrams has been eating up Russian equipment with ZERO issues for the last 20+ years with ZERO losses. You see the turrets popping even today, less often of course as they are running out of tanks to get blown up and are starting to field the older t54s.
Certainly, a lot of facts are left out in the very short video. The target detection distance on a chieftain or challenger was far better than the Russian, and the ability to see in the dark is something only a few Russian tanks have I the Ukraine now. After seeing recently released documents from Leyland, a DS/T projectile would easily pass through a T55 turret, the before mentioned APDS round was ineffective on T62, T64 and T72 over 600 meters if attacked from the front, it would simply bounce off. The 80s tank crews practised one shoot one kill unless when using HESH, they would have been surprised to see an NVA T64 or a Russian T72 carry on driving after being slapped with an APDS round if the reds ever marched over the border. Also, Stillbrew was only able to stop Russian HEAT rounds and was later found to be ineffective against the 125mm APFSDS.
Cheiftains used APFSDS in the late 70s like most countries. T-62 had hardly more armor than the T-55 so it would definetly not "bounce off"
@@stranger299aapfsds for chieftain rifled guns was developed only in the 80s. So chieftain mk 1-5 would not have penetrated t62. apfsds began to be used on chieftains only during the Gulf War
Chieftain is good until T62 115mm punch through the Chieftain frontal plate during Iran Iraq war
Don't forget that the chieftain also stacked t-62 and t-72 urals during the war as well
@@terrynewsome6698 No they didn't show me in the literature, the Chieftain was a failure, also the Kuwaitis lied none of their claims could be confirmed because they were literally made up.
в Украине, а не на.
Hardly spoke about the fact the Soviet gun fired APFSDS as apposed to the more old-fashioned APDS. Didn't give the thickness of the Sovet armour at all, or look at how well (or badly) the APDS ammo would normalise against the sloped Soviet armour. Soft ending: best tank has the best crew. Gag.
Этот Чиф стоит на 9 левеле, а т72 стоял бы на 11. т72 и сейчас хорошо себя показывает в бою, а где Чиф? На свалке.
На уж показали себя на поле боя Т72. уже в ход пошли Т55........ скоро и Т34 поедут
@@DCVibeEntertainment для танка 70-х годов он вполне эффективен. т72 есть на вооружение как российской, так и украинской армии.
Чиф просто быстро устарел с появлением Т-64 и 72, у которых уже была комбинированная броня и автомат заряжания. Двигателя были одинаковой мощности, но для советских танков и таких хватало, а Чиф со своей массой просто ползал. А к тому моменту пока они научились делать мощные двигателя оказалось что проще сделать новый танк, а не пихать его в старый Чифтен
T-72 is much stronger than Chieftain! What's there to compare?
Lol didnt you watch the video? What a funny thing to say😂
@@noke258 compare the frontal armor of tanks and the power of guns. a professional Russian crew will smash your trough into splinters! 120 mm Chieftain vs 500mm combined armor T-72? Are you a clown?
Всё гениальное - просто !!!!
T72 is a banger with APFSDS
125mm BM 12/15 steel APFSDS can cut through 12"@ 2km range Chieftains Glacis was 5"@ 75o = ~ 16" armor.
Turret armor was listed at 395mm = 15.5" armor.
Chieftain was highly overrated. In the Iran-Iraq war, Iraqi T-72As proved to be superior to Iranian Christian MK3 and MK5s over and over. Chieftain's frontal armor could not resist the 125mm gun of T72s (even their HEAT shells!!), let alone the abysmal side armor and horrible engine that made Chieftains a rather easy hunt for the agile T72s.
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Kuwait chieftains murdered Iraqi T-72 tanks, in the correct firing position, id rather be in a chieftain (as long as it got there...😀) but again its if there used correctly, in the Iran Iraq war they were used poorly and the Iranians lost quite a few, and the T-72 in Ukraine on the Russian side have been used badly, and some of the crews drivers don't even know how the tank gear box works for reverse because there so green and conscripts, a few videos have described this on You tube.
if you look at Syrian T-72 footage,they don't reverse they turn the hull 360 and fire the gun over the rear deck, its quicker to get away than the terrible reverse gear on a t-72 anyway.
great vid as always!
Самый красивый танк в мире. Но Леста вообще его не продает в варианте 9 лвл. Бесит нереально.
Согласен, красивый, хоть и не очень удачный
Pretty certain that the most numerous tank in the russian army as of 13JUL2023 is the T62.
Propaganda....
Судя по твоей аве, ты из мосонодиванных войск пригожней бото-пивной бригады.
Chieftain was an absolute disaster. In Iran-Iraq war, Iranian had to use tthem mostly at night as the engine was overheating during the day.
That is because the Cheftain was not designed to fight in the middle East but instead Mainland Europe.
@@MendozafromtheMcBainmovies It is underpowered and everyone knows it.
By the way, other tanks do well in the Middle East.
So you just wasted our time then. A no decision fight. Feh !
The T62 was the Chieftain's daddy during the Iran-iraq war.
They got rid of the American narrator, because he would’ve ripped the overrated Chieftain apart…lol
I think WOT needs to rebalance its Russian tanks , one thing the invasion of ukraine has shown us all is that Russian Cold War tanks aren’t hard to knock out
Pol vidio nej
I'll tell you with evidence. The Chieftain tank, which they sent to Iran and 300 others in debt, were so heavy and slow that they were actually artillery in the pretext of not revolutionizing the Iraq war. They didn't even see the battlefield. They destroyed the asphalt from being heavyweight. They said they were going to send 500 horsepower and they delivered 300 horsepower. And they were probably much more resistant to T75. But the Russian tank must be a lot better than the Chieftain.
Operation Nasr proves the Chieftain was vastly inferior to even the T62
Soviet forces outnumbered us about 4-1. Cheiftain was crap.
Chieftain got wrecked in Iran Iraq war. Up against T62's lol...
lol. best crue is crue 2.0
Дымовые завесы , шашки какие то .... Соляры на колектор и привет Шишкину 😂😂😂
hahahhahahahaha nato propaganda.
real : so best T 72
The T-72 had more firepower and it was faster and more agile than the Chieftain. The Chieftain had a more accurate gun and it maybe had better armour than the T-72. All in all, the T-72 was aver good tank in its day.
The autoloader in the T-72 is a disadvantage as the gun has to be elevated to load and then be laid back on the target. Probably not the most numerous in Russian service if the Ukrainians have destroyed over 4000 tanks as claimed.
Not an issue with "modern" (70s) FCSs
The AMX 30 uses an autoloader and keeps the ammo in a blowout panel
Nah, russians lost 40000000000 tank…😂🙈 Wake up…
How is that a disadvantage? The fire control system brings the gun back down after loading.
And if you haven't happened to notice, the Leopard 2 does the exact same thing to ease loading.
т-72 лучший боевой танк в мире. именно боевой.
So can it defeat a Challanger 2?
The problem with the L60 was it was origionally specified to be a multi fuel capable , alas this led to lots of problems.
Then some idiot polititian forbade more than 20 running hours ( ir something) per year so the oil seals dried out and cracked, then leaked.
Love the Chieftan. Recon it could still kick the T72s butt today!
No it can’t, the T-72 would absolutely wreck a chieftain with its eyes closed
With an NVA Crew in the T72 opposite, the Crew of the Chieftain would have the same Experiences that their Grandfathers had in Dunkirk.
The best tank doesn't immolate its crew due to dry ammunition storage directly under their feet.
Unless you mean best at throwing its turret 80m into the air & saving on cremation costs...
late versions carry armour protection around the carousel in T72-B and T-90M, ignition is a lot less likely even from mines
@@z_actual Doesn't seem to be working for Ruzzia in Ukraine...
@@GARDENER42 ukrainian tanks suffer from the same problem, in fact its even worse for them, then also, both leopard 2 and challenger 2 have popped a turret, its not just a russian problem, its a problem for nearly every tank on earth
@@Xilley1 Only one Challenger has been lost & it didn't pop its turret.
Nor has any Leo2, as both use wet stowage for their ammunition, unlike the open stowage, carousel system in Russian tanks.
@@GARDENER42 and yet, a leopard 2 has been destroyed in syria, its turret laying well infront of the tank, with the entire thing being burned out, lots of pictures of it online look it up, the challenger two that got destroyed had its turret displaced, indicating an ammo cook off.
cold war tanks? T-72 is out in the field dying in record numbers everyday! For a main battle tank for today we now know its a no go. Its a Death trap sending its crew into outer space when ever it get's a chance! We still have bits of Russian tank crews orbiting in low altitude as we speak!
lol got to love it.
Cara os ukros estão sendo destroçados nessa tal ofensiva, os Gringos do norte já falar em seus jornais que sabiam que os ukros não tinham armamento nem treinamento suficiente, mesmo assim insistiram nessa ofensiva desastrosa
so in essence they are saying the t72 is better but its crew sucks
Їха
Don't forget the Russian tanks are proving unreliable and easily blown up by someone sneezing./