Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: T-34-85, Episode 1
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Nicholas Moran continues his tour of the most interesting tanks. This time, he came to...Russia! Why? To finally tell us about a Soviet medium tank, the T-34-85!. How are its tracks designed? Why did the T-34 turn into the T-34-85? And how can you know that the tank was produced in Nizhny Tagil? You will find answers to these and more questions in the new episode of the "Inside the Chieftain's Hatch". Let's watch!
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I love the his Russian camera crew telling him "it's actually a little warm" and he has to do the video... 🤣🤣🤣
No tall man it is warm, now you do work
The Russian camera Crew dranking vodka 🤣😂
@@inkedseahear xxxxxxxhhuoapf
Chieftain: it’s 10 below and I forgot my jacket. Let’s film tomorrow….
Russian crew wearing tshirt and short shorts: no complaining!!!! Go to make video or you get beaten!!!!
time stamp?
Love Nick's perspective as a tanker. He just 'gets' the importance of things like field maintenance, ergonomics, reliability etc... a tank with a dead engine is a dead tank.
A tank without an engine is a static gun emplacement.
@@josh05683Da Comrade, waste not what not
Near my home village, there was 1 T-34 without engine and opened hatch.
We spend days and days playing inside and turning gun on incoming traffic ... but sadly, there was no real ammo :D
Sadly?
You crazy?
MrVolodus Thats what I call F.U.N
B Wong Yeah, it was great :) On Christmas I will visit family there and I will take photo and put it on google maps :D
MrVolodus sadly, you can't move the turret.
aaa. I forgot about photos :(
Where you can't move turret? With tank in video or were you in that village I mentioned? That would be sad ...
"If you're lucky your tank wont last that long."
Well, that's one way of engineering a tank I suppose.
It's the Russian way komrade.
They were expendable weren't they?! If you survived...if...you get another one. Until you dead.
The winning way.
That's the way of total war. It wasn't the Soviets being wasteful or careless with their manpower or machinery, common perception aside. They did studies of their rates of loss in 1941-42, to determine how long their tanks were expected to last on the meatgrinder battlefields of the Eastern Front before being knocked out--which is to say, damaged beyond repair.
The result was something horrifying like "one week"--at the most "one month". And it wasn't that the T-34 was a worse tank design than its opposition--that's just how brutal a theater of war that kills thirty million people is.
So there's no point in building a tank engine whose parts will last ten years if there's a very strong chance that a German 75mm will have distributed the engine across most of a Belarussian field before you get to the first year. This is the reality of total war, and the Soviets adjusted to it a LOT better than the Germans. There's a number of good videos on this topic--Potential History did a great primer on it, look up "The Soviet Tank Meme".
@@InchonDM The fascists were definitely the best toymakers. Toys built for adults...
Museum in my country: Hey dont touch that
Museum in RUS: You know what? I will go get some Vodka, do whatever you want
Air filter is clogged, time for another tank.
Just like inkjet printers!
I had to skip back when he said that. 50 hrs and she's junked up. That's sad.
Mine never made it to 25 hours before the ash tray was full and I had to trade it in.
KarlbushtheIV the tanks weren’t expected to last that long, anyway
Not True, sure the first are unrealiable and suffer also tremendous casualties, but much t 34 make it to Berlin, and back home again, not every crew has same skills, luck and vehicle, the first ones lasted very short, but the 85 was essentialy unstobbable, if is is'nt knocked out by mynes or Large cannons
Just visiting the comment section to see what the experts have to say.
Hahahahahaha WINNING!!!! Soviet shit was built CHEAP but got the fuckin job done! i own both a AK47 and a AR15, you can drive A T34 over a AK47 and it will still work! not so with a AR15 just sayin! I LOVE my psl-54c also!
I wonder what the combined number of PhD recipients are in this one
So many expert and tankist
I reaalllllllly wanna say wanna cookie Einstein to someone today
My expert analysis: The horn probably sounds like a Toyota Prius horn.;-)
I know this is from a different game but: that t-34 is the master chief
(Thanks for doing a t-34, its my favorite tank of all-time)
Why?
It’s kinda overrated but i respect your opinion
The maintenance is crazy. I had no idea they designed the tank to last less than 50 hours. That's insane
night
a t34 that lasted more than 50 hours in combat was rather rare
@@LtBrown1956well in combat but how about just normally moving about they would be running for more then 50 hours
Number 117. Seems like we have a T-34-85 that hasnt been woke up yet.
12:38
I very much agree. I was climbing on top of one and almost slipped off multiple times. Thank god for the handles welded all over the tank, otherwise I would have a dent on my head.
Lol have expecting him to say "as you can see the escape hatches are bolted, first you have to take off the bolts then you cant open them up."
Underrated
Ohh man, That Beauty. I love my T-34-85 in game. I even bought a T-34-85 Model.
The only tank in WoT I enjoy playing on a regular basis
we all do
About the T-34’s means of communications. Before 1943 the 71- TK-3 radio set had been installed there. Nominally it had rather decent range of operation-18 kilometers when the tank was moving and as much as 25 kilometers when it was standing with engine off. In reality, however, it could achieve its maximum range merely when operating in telegraph mode, while only at a range of up to four kilometers could one count on reliable two-way telephone communications. The radio set was complicated in both its production and use. Despite the presence of five knobs for tuning, it was enormously difficult to tune, especially at a long distance and while on the move because of poor selectivity and insufficient interference protection. In addition, the 71-TK-3 was pretty bulky: It occupied a volume of around 100 liters (Makarov, p. 18).
Really enjoying your videos especially your take on what it would have been like fighting the vehicle in combat.. Comfort, ease of use, ease of maintenance, etc. Fascinating.
Also makes me bloody glad I wasn't born at a time to have served during ww2!! Being stuck in a Crusader or a Panther or even a T34.... No bloody thank you!!
Great work, especially with your combat experienced opinion
These welds are better than earlier t34s?
Oh my
As a welder it hurt me when he said that. Like first year apprentice level stuff looks better.
BType13X2 I don't know the first thing about welding but even to me they look awful. Like they sculpted the tank out of the metal in the mountains via chisel.
BType13X2 All the welds on T-34s I have seen look as if the Soviets went around and collected people with Parkinson's to weld their tanks. I am a welder myself.
Probably because the Soviet engineers were like "Comrades, the Germans are coming from the east! We need to make these tanks as many as we can, as quickly as we can! It doesn't matter if the weldings are ugly, or the grinding's uneven, so long as the tank can still work. Now back to your stations!"
Also because, like the guy in the video said, the soviets didn't really expect these tanks to last forever. Just three or four battles. So the aesthetics didn't really matter to them.
So glad the AFV Club model is so detailed and accurate to this real life version, even down to internals like crew compartment and engine components.
everyone else: its chilly af
russian crew: its kinda warm
me: *covering myself with a blanket just because theres a fan next to me*
Interesting vids but the non-stop music is just too annoying after a while.
It's typical Russian music (push demo button on various keyboards)
taffwob captions.....
I gave up at 6
Years later and yeah, annoying as hell!
Must admit it doesn’t bother me. Its like subtitles on a movie. Annoying st first but i soon get used
I cannot believe he didn't mention the ramp to knock the track pins back in is the source of the noise T-34 keeps making, beside track and engine, and can be heard further.
Love these shows, keep it up Chieftain!!!
Incredible that The Chieftain hasn't done a video on the T-34/76 yet. After all, this was the main T-34 on the eastern front, while the 85 was only in use in little over a year. At least I couldn't find it.
- where is that damned first aid kit ??
- removing the last bolt chief !
So T 34/85 was like a disposable lighter or camera, use a few times then get a new one. Sort of like the battle for Berlin.
Great camera work btw. Perfect tracking. Clarifying shots.
Thank you for a great video , one of the best I have seen on the T34. Showing the engine and gear box was very helpful as a modeller.👍
You make it sound as if their "loose pin" tracks were somehow inferior and "unsophisticated". I thought that was brilliant, no need to worry about making hundreds of little connectors to break or whatever. Great idea. It worked, didn't it? What's wrong with that/ All you need is a suitably strong steel rod of the appropriate size and you're good to go. I also don't think holding everything together with bolts was a bad idea. You're not likely to come up without a wrench, it comes with the tank, and you can always borrow one if you somehow loose it. It only takes a minute, and you already have millions of bolts in the supply line, no need to design and built special latches or whatever. People forget that every single feature on a tank or truck, no matter how small and minor, has to be designed and built by someone, has to be fit into the logistics system, transported to the factory and fed into the production line at the right point. It's pretty amazing .By doing away with a single small system like that, yu free up capacity for something else, or you free up manpower to be sent to the front.
justforever96 According to the germans they could hear them coming from way off which is a big issue
Yes, with a system like that the pins would constatly grind against that plate. And it would only be there because a tank like that had a very limited service live.
I don't know is T-34 was heard at longer distance than other tanks tho?
Yes, the T 34 was a noisy tank, it had a clatter that was created by it's tracks. How much this influenced a battle is not known but I read that it didn't in a lot of cases. At the start of operation Uranus the Soviets got dozens of tanks within small arms range of the German trenches without being noticed. It depended on many factors, fog, snow, whatever. It is also known that the T34s SIMPLICITY was why it was so extremely reliable.
Wow, can't believe someone was stupid enough to write something like that. You obviously have no experience whatsoever with AFV's.
Scrat335 just like the AK47
I found this channel today! I am very happy! It's great someone with knowledge to make videos as well. Congratulations !
I found this channel today too!
RE: Air intake louvers for engine cooling. Russians build everything to operate in extreme cold weather. I suspect that the T-34 louvers are more for extreme cold weather operation than for protection from shrapnel, although they would serve both purposes. Just a thought.
Nick, this is your best yet! Waiting for Part 2.
The fact that there were so many T-34s coming out of the factories enabled Soviet tankers to pretty much wreck their tanks, since they'd immediately get a new one. I've read that some even used theirs in sort of kamikaze-ish attacks during which they'd crash into enemy tanks, destroying both in the process. Only that the Germans couldn't replace a Tiger while the new T-34 was already on its way.
+dimapez or get authorization to run away and wait for the Tiger to brake down or run out of fuel.
I know that tactic u mentioned. the t-34's would crash into the german tanks, then fire point blank range. it would help increase the chance of penetration.
Marek W its not a myth. Its a documented tactic.
+cole thompson Didn't know about that. If you remember where you've read about that, please share.
Marek W I admit it was back in the 6th grade. I know it was documented, but I will try and find it again.
My favorite tank of all time ty!
I do like how the rear structure , after unbolting, folds down. Seems like a good idea for access.
Nick Caspar rear access indeed the m4a3 fucked it up the ass
Of all the T34 tanks in existence, the one at the Defense Language Institute has seen the most action.
I guarantee it.
NorthForkFisherman who cares its a piece of shit
Wait, why do tanks need horns when they can just roll over everyone...?
It's a wonderful concept called bad press.... Plus you can't run over every potential communist..or can you?
like my Oldsmobile 1970; it's only for backing up or parallel parking......in the dark.
For the people you don’t want to run over who may be otherwise preoccupied maybe?
Alternately, it gives you some plausible deniability when you “accidentally” run over your commissar.
Seriously. I mean, I've been close to bulldozers, and there's no way to hear a horn over that cacophony of screechy rumble. If you can't hear a tank coming your way, you won't be saved by a horn.
Maus : *"I see you have bumped into me, mortal"*
Nicholas you are doing a awesome job ! :D !
Apart from looking constantly disgusted
Ricky Julian
He does? Well, he's clearly cold and definitly wishes he had taken thicker garbs with him and thus feels very uncomfortable, but disgusted? You're bad at interpreting other people's habitus...
Ricky Julian LOLed at your comment hmm disgusting dirty russian tanks uh.
Ricky Julian I'm not very expressive... :)
Ricky Julian Irish males are strictly forbidden from showing emotion.
The sub arc welding looks pretty good (the hull plate join). Not unusual for a weldment to fail in the heat affected zone when the weld procedure is adhered to either, just sound's odd.
I feel like a bit of context surrounding the armour thickness on the rear is the USSR was pushing into Germany around the time the T-34/85 was adopted and ambushes from concealed tanks were common.
2:45] A dumb ranger-airborne-infantryman question. How often exactly do tankers use the horns on their tank? I had no idea previously that tanks had horns.
William Reymond it had a horn because the t34 blows
@@leroyhovatter7051 Good answer.
Yes, T-34/85 in Polish painting :-) 3:45
SergeantMajorKuGaLuS1410 woooo so cool
Ha my youngest daughter recognized you in the video, she is happy she knows someone on youtube! Great video, so glad I did not have to crew that tank!
Colin Park ugh why would your daughter recognize him? You might want to look into that and find out.
@@leroyhovatter7051 whats wrong with that?
all right! been waiting for this tank!
Thank you for this video WG! The T-34/85 is by far my favorite tank ever in WoT.
Um dos melhores tanques, na minha opinião!
5:24 The T-34 is not the most refined tank in the world. Well, that's some understatement. ;)
Still better than 95% of German tanks lol
Love your videos on tanks, nice one :)
Great series very informative..
A real tank- used in service- finally, Thankyou!!!! (apart from the Matilda and chieftain I grant you :-))
He seems a lot more up beat... I like it
The transmission access panel looks like a finger smasher.
bad
when you are in the Red Army, smashing your finger is the least of your physical worries
For The Chieftain's "Track Tension Groupies," just go straight to the 1:43 mark. View that part as many times as you need until you have had your fix.
T34/85...i love this tank so much :* !!!
It's the master chief tank. (117)
William Grant lol
Thought the same thing
Me too
No he drives a scorpian tank
40 tons of Di-vine Soviet Intervention
Splendid my good man, absolutely splendid
I enjoy your work. Thanks for sharing.
The T-34: Crude, crude, dirves the germans all the way back to berlin
not really that was the weather.... and hitler over extending....
@@Justin-yp1dz Don't blame
Love the old T34's, especially seeing as its the tank that pretty much won the war, but most look like they were welded by someone with Parkinson's
That's how they won the war ;)
The Allies won the war, the T-34 didn't.
Soviet blood won the war *for* the Soviet Union, not the T-34.
The T-34 was arguably, after 1942, the worst medium tank to see proficient service.
Right. That's not just a way to be contrary and start an argument: decide something that has been pretty well established for a long time is somehow arbitrarily false, and then go around and start telling people online how wrong they actually are. Amusing, isn't it?
Did you know that American production capacity had almost _nothing_ to do with the final victory in WWII, and that even if the US hadn't entered the fight in 1941, England alone could have forced them into surrender by 1947? It's a FACT, I even read it in a book somewhere!
Nathan Peterson Yeah the allies sure did show those germans by getting inside Berlin right?
justforever96 LOL, I thought you were serious for a second!!! Then the comment about reading it in a book came and I laughed my ass off! Thanks for making my cold rainy day happy! :D
One of these ended up outside a surplus store here in the UK in a small village in Worcestershire.
This just looks like victory!
wonderful tank, in game and in real life
*I can't ignore the box, tell me about it!*
i need one of those to use it here... in my town cars get broken very often because of the terrain and dust...
+ this tank would give me enough protection from any bandit gang or whatever bad persons out there :P
I like how you opened the transmission case, while stood on it....well tried to :D
*slaps on the T-34*
this boi can fit 100 litters of vodka
Finally not a snapshot!
Because it has been at a place that wasn't having it's tanks being sold off because of a dead owner.
amazing i live in Sweden and we got a t34-85 in arsenalen, i will check if it is from Nizhny Tagil.
This is LITERALLY my ideal job. To be able to study tanks, weaponry, and warfare in general (as well as the history behind them all) would be absolutely amazing. I want to visit the tank museum so bad. Is it too late to change my degree to tank history?... Yeah...
Grow up
According to the head of the Armored Directorate of the Red Army N.Fedorenko, the average mileage of the T-34 to overhaul during the war, did not exceed 200 kilometers. This was considered adequate since the T-34’s service life at the front was considerably less. For example in 1942 only 66 km. In that sense the T-34 was indeed ‘reliable’ because it was destroyed before it had a chance to break down on its own! :-)
I do wonder if that's the reason the USSR tried to introduce the T-54 as quickly as possible.
Still better than Tiger, who get owerhauled in the single battle. :-)
@@MrMarinus18 but you forget is1 is2 and many others before t-55
@@goshayug The IS1 and IS2 were heavy tanks and the Soviets treated those separately. They were replacements for the KV-1, not the T-34.
@@Bynk333 The Tiger was actually fairly reliable and didn't break down much. The reputation is because at the times when it did break down it was very time consuming to repair.
In my town is one T34-85
Robertslawno who cares its scrap metal
This is easily my fav tank in the game.
Bless you Nicholas!
Only Chuck Norris can lift up the same hatch he is standing on.
chieftain can you do a video about panther or king tiger
FİKO EMMİ ikr I guess he likes videos about junk
such an elegant tank, in the game.
the small blood droplets on the front slope are a nice touch
quote "partway through the war a soviet engineer figured out the concept of "submerged arc welding" (SAW)."
SAW was first patented in 1935-10-09 in an American journal. The concept was well known, they just first started using it part way through the war...
The claim above would be similar to me installing WOTon a computer and claiming I created it.
First, prove that the Americans told the Soviets how to do it. Just because one person invented something first doesn't mean that no one else could think the same thing up later. It happens all the time, even though people tend to ignore it; "this guy here invented it over here, so it's clear that the idea somehow spread 2,000 miles and popped up 200 years later in this other continent. You know, because there is no way that _another_ person could have just thought of the same thing."
That said, even if the US invented it and told the Russians how it worked, that's not the same as training Soviet personal how to actually DO it and equipping the factories for it, and setting up the production line to use that instead of what they had been doing. Say a Soviet guy finally figured out how to train the personal and integrate it across ALL the many, many T-34 production lines, he deserves credit for it. With such an imprecise quote as "figured out the concept of SAW welding", it could mean a lot of things. HE could have READ that article you mentioned, and figured out how it worked, etc.
He didnt actually say thst the soviet engineer invented it, he said he came up with the udea of using it to build their tanks. Along the lines of "comrade stalin, i read in an American journal the idea of submerged arc welding. I believe we should try that to improve our tank manufacturing"
Christie suspension system invented in USA about 1935
The suspensions were not invented by Americans
great vid , tnx :)
Very well engineered using the technology and manufacturing available.
Rudy 102 :)
I say do the Black Prince, or if you can, however unlikely the American T-series tanks i.e T29, T32, T34 etc
So, he did the Universal carrier 2pdr, and that never saw service
Louis le gatt He also did the Maus which never saw service either.
Louis le gatt But I wanna see inside the BP. :L
Thanks. I've read a couple of Russian tankes that said they almost always re-fueled from pails..and they never had hand -crank fuel pumps. I get you could loosen the straps on the fuel drums and rotate them to pour out fuel/oil..but how would do this with the Box storage containers?
We had a T-34/85 at DLI-Presidio of Monterey, near the parade ground (might still be there, but I haven't visited in decades)
I thought it was random for what is basically an Intel site, but it was neat.
plz tigar 2 or tigar 1
I have this tank on wot blitz. Btw plz do other Russian medium tanks cos they are my favourite
Also, the T-34 _does_ "have a system to prevent the track from falling apart": part of that system is the track pins. The other part of that system is the "wiper" plate that keeps them all pushed in. If it didn't have a "system", the track would, in fact, fall apart. And of course the OTHER side of the pin has a "head" on it, or the pin will just fall out outwards. The pins are inserted from the inside, and kept in place with the "wipers" or "ramps" as you call them.
I never had the opportunity to operate a Abrams M1. But I have a M113 and a M577. Both are APCs, (Armored Personal Carriers). The tracks on any of these 3, you definitely have to be a man to change these tracks. And in the field far worse. And God forbid if it needed engine work because the deck bolts were a pain too.
The Russians just were the first to figure out that you could get maximum protection from armor by having it at a 45° as a posed to 70°.and allowing their tanks to be lighter and faster without sacrificing protection. A duh moment for axis and allies but it also took 20 years and a civilian to figure out to put armor plating around the gunner in a humvee.
Not true. There is no such thing as an optimum angle. The most effective and efficient angles are 60 degrees and above. Using trigo, we know that a slope of 60 degrees can double the thickness of a plate, and steeper angles will increase the relative angle exponentially. Shallow angles don't noticeably increase the relative angle at all, and medium slopes like 45° don't work very well either.
+Lewis Shryock Not really the 1st ones to figure this out. Only the 1st ones to actually put it in practice. Everybody knew about the slopped armour well before 1940. T-34 just set up the trend from then on. Like electric cars a few years ago. Most of the manufacturers knew how to make them, but only a handful actually produced them.
+Danut Onofrei the best angle is 90 degrees, you'll get alot of protection
The idea of angled armor had existed frim at least the inter war period. It was not a Soviet invention.
Leonardo Da Vinci mace angled armor in his hay days so no the Soviets didn't make it first
He kind of has dr evils accent
He has an Irish accent lmao
CRANK THE WORM DRIVE!!
i just love the sound of that :D
Yes! Finally!
11:02 Yep, this is a Russian tank.
I wanna see the Kliment Voroshilov 2!
Sadly I think that goes over the head of most of the Gamers that watch these...
I wanna see the KV 2, too, but sadly there is only one intact in the world
epion660 not me
Do you mean the tank which Germans call " oh shut drive at full reverse"
One thing I'm curious about, were the external tanks jettisonable if someone started shooting at you? And would they typically remove or empty them if expecting combat? Seems like a dangerous thing to have onboard; a sniper or MG with incendiary rounds ought to ignite it, diesel or no. Seems like a quick-release would be pretty easy. Just leaving them behind in combat would be 2nd choice (or both).
"Comrade ... I have terrible news. We must turn the tank around. I have lost my wrench."
I have traveled to Russia a few times in the past, and behind the WWII Museum ( Great Patriot War Museum ) is a unique tank museum park, that has also artillery, military trains and planes from WWII German and Russian.
I also had gotten to Kubinka that is excellent, back then you needed a special pass being it is an active military post Russian, but recently I have read that you no longer need a special pass, open now to the public, in St Petersburg is an excellent WWII museum and the Russian Artillery museum GO ARMY NRA USA
Ralph Geigner Russia is weak
I nor any tanker I ever served with tried to open a back deck compartment while standing on the hatch in question....If you believe that, I have some beautiful (Atlantic) ocean front property in Oklahoma that I will gladly sell you for a very reasonable price....
FD Mackey shut up American wannabe
Great Video!
Love the black windbreaker. I have one just like it. My Class B officer's windbreaker