TERAPAGOS EXPLAINED: What is his power?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Pokemon Indigo Disk answered a lot of lore questions about Terapagos, but to find the answers, you had to read and watch VERY carefully.
Considering what Terapagos's power is, what do you hope Pokemon does next? Let me know in the comments!
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The past paradox is from a timeline that is from a timeline where all Pokemon are savage and the future paradox are from a timeline that Pokemon are robots Toby bird keeper covered this in his video paradox Pokemon explained
@@eristheplayfulnephalem8015 Yeah, Toby and I talked about this theory when he was in NYC. I made a video on it back in February ( th-cam.com/video/gPoCav7M9iE/w-d-xo.html ). The DLC confirmed that it was option 2 from my original video.
so before the indgo disk dlc that's crazy foreshadowing i would say both of you nailed it @@CaylasCapsule
love your videos keep up the amazing work @@CaylasCapsule
@CaylasCapsule if their no multiverse but instead it dreams ans reality-warp two-canons don't have to be still to each other but still canon
This kind of fits with the theory of shifting, where you go to sleep and then wake up in an alternate universe
Yup! A lot of media uses the concept of dreaming as a way to describe moving between universes. The Wizard of Oz is a good western example, but it's also extremely common in eastern media.
@@CaylasCapsule Yeah. At first, I was against the multiverse theory because of how it’s been overused in Hollywood capitalize off the success of Spiderverse, but I like how it’s being handled in SV since it still feels self contained, doesn’t go all the way with multiverses like it has in Western media, & leaves plenty of questions or mysteries to be explored
So hypothetically speaking the amnesia side effect is caused by the brain identifying the multiversal travel as a dream in order to protect the mindset and personality of the individual in question. I'm i understanding that correctly?
Basically, yeah. It seems to be to protect their sanity. Evidence across multiple games suggests that this side effect prevents total brain breakage.
Blowing our minds as always. I love that you use in-game evidence because it's honestly kinda hard to refute. Only that I wouldn't believe GF to go this far 😅 but maybe there is a lore master at TPC headquarters.
Yes, they most certainly have staff for this. They also have at least one staff member who researches the latest scientific developments and incorporates them into the games. Having knowledge of these scientific developments myself was how I predicted things about the crystals based just on the trailers.
Love it, so well articulated and explained!
Thank you! :)
Btw Cayla, I named my shiny Sprigatito “Peppermint” in honor of your naming system for your plushies.
Aww that's so cute! Good name! :)
Brand new follower, love your content and especially your pacing. Feels fast but not too fast?
Thank you! I'm a New Yorker, so I'm always trying to slow myself down, haha. :)
@@CaylasCapsule Do you think any of your theory and analysis connects with the old Gen V Dream World or Entree Link mechanics? OR the text on Southern Island in Gen III that talks about "all dreams are another reality?"
@@lars4817 For sure! Multiversal travel seems similar to dreaming. Entirely possible that in Pokémon universes, people are more susceptible to multiversal experiences when dreaming. This is a common trope in a lot of media.
kinda distressing to know that a very cute turtle boi is also caoable of untold destruction
Untold destruction? What do you mean? Are you talking about infinite regression, or something else?
@@CaylasCapsule I think this person is implying that since terapagos can warp space and time it has the ability to massively and permanently warp the environment that it's in so i believe that he thinks that terapagos is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off because it can clearly allow two universes to interact with each other allowing extremely dangerous Pokemon to wreck havoc on each others universes but I could be misinterpreting what he's saying it's just a guess
@@douglaspope-gz1eq I guess if Terapagos had bad intentions, it could cause a lot of problems. It seems to mostly try to do good, in this universe at least. But I could totally see problems arising if Terapagos had a selfish trainer. Not to mention the whole turtles all the way down problem, which I’ll discuss in my next video.
@@CaylasCapsule idk if you notice this, likely you don't,
But Terapagos just destroyed the universe you were in intentionally.
Physics broke cos of the time loop and now the universe made a new one and put you in it.
I've checked your discord and some guy already laid the theory on you but you're probably ignoring him, cos at the time I went there, no replies from anyone else other than some professor guy.
I was in your discord since a long time ago but generally had it on mute.
Might be the right time to engage in conversations?
The guy I'm talking about was talking about tinfoil hats for some reason.
@@superkamehameha1744 I was waiting to see if there was more evidence for that theory, but as it is right now, I think the evidence for it being multiversal time travel is more compelling. I’ll explain more in my video on January 2nd, but what we’re seeing in SV is not exactly a time loop. It’s more complex than that.
Fantastic video! :D
Thanks Ruffled! Hope you're doing well and had a good holiday! :)
More recently, I can't help but think about the description of the spells "Repair" and "Twisted Wall of Light" from the game Dark Souls 3.
The last sentence in the spell Repair goes: "Light is time, and the reversal of its effects is a forbidden art."
Part of the description of the other spell, Twisted Wall of Light goes: "A closely-guarded light manipulation spell that contorts the very fabric of fundamental laws, negating magic by denying its claim to physicality."
My niece started a file without beating the main game and the teal mask. She was able to go to blueberry academy, and the crystal on the ceiling of the terrarium is a brownish color. I thought that was interesting.
That's amazing! That makes a lot of sense. Is she able to terastallize there, with the crystal being brown in color?
Yup- still able to terastalize!
I can see this explaining why there are multiple instances of Pokemon like Celebi. I never understood why all the Celebi came to help in the Celebi movie when there really only should have been one
Celebi has always been the Pokemon that's confused me most about if direct time travel exists in Pokemon. But I'm starting to think that even Celebi may not be direct, and that all time travel in Pokemon is probably multiversal.
I think Celebi is perfectly explained with regular time travel. The idea in the movie is that Celebi was traveling from multiple other points in time. They appear to heal themself, and then all go back to the same moment in time they left.
Great video Cayla, I've been loving your Pokemon multiverse theory though i personally think traditional time travel do exist in the Pokemon multiverse along side multiversal time travel, a note about the dream world now correct me if I'm wrong but i remember in the dream world in black and white an npc said that dreams are actually alternate universes. I would love for the Pokemon Company to further explore the multiverse in future games.
It's funny how Pokemon was doing the multiverse almost 10 years before it was mainstream, and it began as an off-handed excuse for why remakes of old games exist now it is a major plot point.
I don't think the Tear Orbs have sleeping Terapagos given that it is implied all but one Terapagos died 2 million years ago when Area Zero was created. More likely, and more distubingly, Tera Orbs have Terapagos corpses inside them.
Pokémon has actually been doing the multiverse thing since the very beginning of the franchise, as the original concept was largely about trading across games/universes so people could play with friends. They’ve just made it more and more obvious with each game. Honestly, it’s a really smart strategy for a franchise.
@@CaylasCapsule ORAS was the first time they explictly mentioned the multiverse being a thing when Zinnia mentions the Gen 3 Hoenn during the Delta epilogue. That game kinda retroactively turned all the games into multiverses and they've been rolling with it since.
@@elin111 ORAS was the first time it was explicitly said, but it's been implied since gen 1. Tajiri's original concept of Pokemon was multiversal by necessity. They just introduced the concept to players really really slowly, adding more and more until they just straight up said it in ORAS.
Very cool theory! I love Terapagos! He is so cute 🥰 I just caught yesterday, but I definitely need to figure out the best battle strategies with it.
Also trying to figure out how to battle with him. The new tera type is confusing my brain from a competitive standpoint. Still trying to wrap my head around the best way to use it.
I have a theory about the union circle. Going off ur theory, the union circle can be powered by tera energy which allows our friends from either scarlet and violet to temporarily exist in the same timeline or universe via the overlap caused by terapagos power. Which would make rank battles a multiversal ace academy torment akin to the tournament of power in DragonBall super having the strongest from every universe fighting to see who is the strongest. Same for ranked battles. Where all representing our respective academy as we fight one another to be the #1 ranked trainer on the ladder across the pokemon multiverse 😮
Yes, it seems like this works similarly. Since there's no mist, it's not Terapagos, and is probably similar to trading. But definitely uses infinity energy.
I made this video about multiplayer before the games launched based on the trailers. I think you'd be interested in it, especially the part around 4 minutes in: th-cam.com/video/irWjub4PwLk/w-d-xo.html
@@CaylasCapsule thank you, ill check it out. I usually stay up to date on all ur videos and I loved ur playthrough of the indigo disk dlc
Omg. I just love this videos so much. All about them is just great and I definitely think it all comes together. The only thing is that if all of this is true, could it be that Terapagos is going to extinct if they don't do anything about the crystals in the tera orbs. Because why would Terapagos even have a gender? I really feel like maybe there is still one more secret related to the terastallization
I think that Terapagos is very likely going extinct yeah. It makes sense because there's been an effort to save turtles irl from going extinct. Plus the way turtles lay eggs, and the process when they hatch, is super interesting and relevant to when Terapagos "hatches" in SV.
I think this is the best explanation of Terapagos's power at the moment, but there's something that still doesn't click for me. I do believe Terapagos can blend timelines, but when we meet Sada/Turo at the crystal lake and we exchange books, doesn't that have to happen in our timeline? At the Area Zero underdepths Sada/Turo's journal entry mentions their strange experience at the crystal lake and how a child gave them a white book. Doesn't this mean Terapagos can perform some kind of time travel on our timeline?
The events we experience at the Crystal Pool are similar, but slightly different, from what the prof in our universe experienced. Our prof left the Crystal Pool with both the SV book AND Briar’s book, whereas the prof we meet ay the Crystal Pool leaves with ONLY Briar’s book. The concept of timelines changing slightly like this is called infinite regress, and it’s typically illustrated by a small turtle standing on a medium turtle standing on a large turtle. Aka Terapagos’s final form.
Dude.. Does this means that there are like billions of Dialgas, Palkias and Giratinas in the multiverse?? To be honest, i can't believe this... I'll just believe of what i see in-game, i really like the idea of these three Pokémon in specific being so numerous
There literally are a bunch of Dialgas, Palkias, and Giratinas in the multiverse though, and we can see this in-game. Think about how many there are across all the copies of Pokémon games. You could easily trade to have multiple of them in one game. Technically speaking, there are infinite of every Pokémon.
Trades aren't canon though, if so, the Pokémon world would be using this multiversal travel way more often, after all, trading exists since Gen 2, it just doesn't make sense
@@sergioricardosantosdoamara5452 Actually trades are canonically multiversal, as confirmed in the postgame of ORAS. Also trading exists in gen 1 as well, and is multiversal even then based on general Pokemon lore as well as the explanation in ORAS.
I know i know, but trades itself is not canon, because again, why would Professor Sada/Turo need to do ALL that study on Terapagos if they could just use the Trading machines to get Pokémon from other timelines, it doesn't make sense ok?
@@sergioricardosantosdoamara5452 Because to trade Pokémon, there must be a trading machine powered by infinity energy in both universes, whether this is a separate machine or something incorporated directly into Pokeballs. Sada and Turo were trying to access universes that didn’t have those devices.
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Makes sense if walking wake, racing bolt, and gouging fire are all from some crazy separate universe. Either in that past or if that universe is just very primal. Leaving for our universe to stay lore consistent with what happened in the tower fire (as well as the other universes that the main games take place in).
Also the world in which SV takes place doesn’t have to have an apocalyptic future.
I haven’t seen any mention the mist in the photos and that’s how Heath saw the paradox Pokémon (brought up by terapegos). But it makes total sense
Thank you! Exactly right! :) The paradox Pokemon don't make a lot of sense if they're from the in-game universe, but once Sada/Turo explain that it's multiversal time travel, all the lore fits together so nicely.
@@CaylasCapsule I think that’s why people assumed that what the base game was telling us was wrong; leading to people clinging on the initial dream theory. But like you said, once we know that it’s not the in-universal past/future anything can happen.
Your mist/dream/multiverse travel connection is wild! I hadn't caught any of these things but I'm totally sold now
Thank you! I think people were seeing the dream evidence a lot, but they were having trouble connecting it, and so some of the ideas have been really wild. But it's a lot less complicated once the pieces fit together.
in my opinion, terapagos is a prism that bends or filters infinity energy in the same way a crystal can refract light. it’s established that infinity energy can be used to connect universes, and given the fact that it IS the life energy of pokemon, it’s not unlikely that pokémon’s types come from infinity energy. in that way, terapagos’s prism effect could amplify certain wavelengths of a pokémon’s infinity energy, causing it to terastallize into a different type due to the different energy output. IIRC, its said in the area zero logs that the crystals are emitted from terapagos, so it’s possible those are like batteries that store extra infinity energy that passes through terapagos. Terastal energy is just what they call infinity energy that passes through terapagos’s crystal in my theory
For sure! I have a video about this on my list of videos to create, but it didn't get a lot of votes when I put out a poll for which video people wanted first. I'm personally really excited to make it, though, so it's gonna happen. Ultimately, infinity energy is what ties everything in Pokemon together.
I was left so completely baffled and confused by what was going on after the DLC and felt like we got no answers to anything, but this video really changed my perspective!! Thank you for making sense of everything!
Glad it was helpful! :)
I want to see a universe where contests are more relevant to the plot 😭
Lol, so the anime? :D But in all seriousness, I agree! Maybe it'll be one of the plotlines if they ever do gen 3 remakes, similar to how we had three plotlines in SV?
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Merry Christmas! Hope you had a good one! :)
@@CaylasCapsule I'm near finish elite 4 indigo disk
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I've recently convinced myself that Ogerpon's friend dropped a dormant Terapagos into the Crystal Pool. We know he's been to Area Zero since he had tera crystals on him to begin with, and given Health just fell into Terapagos' chamber, it's very likely that other successful explorers could have the same thing happen.
brilliant cayla. glad someone else caught briar’s quote about memory loss and interpreted it the same way i did.
Yay! There's so much lore in this dlc. I think people are going to be drawing people's attention to little details like Briar's memory loss comment for a long time. Which makes me so excited to find out if there are things other people noticed that I missed. :)
I'm still wondering about the person that Heath met 🤔. I believe that would clear a lot of things up.
It was almost certainly a Sada/Turo/professor from a different universe that was making a Tera Orb. But that person doesn't necessarily need to be anything like the Sada/Turo we met as an AI or by the Crystal Pool.
The description comment about having to read and watch carefully is truth!
Felt a little delfated after the Indigo Disk as it didnt seem answer any of the burning questions - but of course at this point had forgotten to follow up on the hint left by the Under Area Zero Diary.. so after THAT ending, suddenly felt super content, and helped stir up thoughts from the terapagos encouter.
All took was a simple scene and a few words to totally change how i felt about the DLC! (still really missing an Arven connects with his Turo/Sada one last time though..)
As always a fantastic breakdown of some MAD LORE
You can talk to Arven after the Crystal Pool, and he has new dialogue about the book. I have a video showing the new Arven dialogue.
Small Correction: Every _[Save file]_ is its own universe.
Each game cartridge can only support one at a time up until multiple accounts on a single device.
@@nullpoint3346 Correct!
Great job, as usual. I still think there's something missing. In game dialogues and diaries (though not necessarily in the Japanese games) suggest we met another Turo (because of the timing of Arven's birth and invention of the time machine in our timeline), but it's still strange. Why would they do that? Isn't meeting our very own Turo the most compelling climax of the story? Isn't the Crystal Pool meant to make you enter in contact with the dead? If a person from a parallel universe were evoked instead this wouldn't have the same feel. Imagine if Miraidon wished to meet Turo there and that's what triggered Terapagos: meeting Turo from universe B wouldn't not satisfy its wish. Turo's travel does not cause any sort of logical incosistency, there's no bootstrapping or past facts that changes truth value, and even if that was the case why Game Freak would bother when they are calling a group of Pokèmon 'Paradox'? Dialogues aside, I'm not convinced the multiverse is needed for explaining what happened.
It's turtles all the way down. That's why they're different Turos. That's probably confusing, but I'll explain more in my next video.
Great video! But we do have definitive proof that Terapagos is responsible for the crystals and terastal phenomenon. The Pokédex states they use energy to make the crystals and that they’re the source of the phenomenon.
But it’s true we don’t know how terastalizarion truly works in changing types, other than Terapagos’ energy seems to produce type-changing effects given that their body showcases a crystal of every type. So I’m not quite sure if they’re using other timelines to gather another typing, as we would see the pink mist when Pokémon terastalize but we don’t.
I think the theory of there being dormant Terapagos makes the most sense, given the Pokédex states they went extinct in ancient times due to seismic shifts. The tera orb must just harness the Terapagos tera energy, as we also hear Terapagos’ cry when Pokémon terastalize as a dead giveaway.
I believe heath met himself and that he can only recall talking to "someone". I also don't think the tera crystals are dormant terapagos. It's made clear in the game actually that terapagos sealed itself in crystals during it's long rest. The crystals could totally have enough energy behind them to power terastal. A big question I have though is how easy it is to change their tera type if they're potentially pulling the phenomenon from other universes. Unless simply feeding them in the treasury, with enough shards of a certain type, is relatively more effective than whatever force they call upon from other universes.
You've given me a new appreciation for Terapagos - Thank you!
I think this also ties the "Imagination theory" with "Time Travel theory".
Since there's infinite possibilities out there and one is bound to fit someone's dream, Terapagos can force specific worlds to intersect according to one's desire.
I think paradox pokemons only showed up shortly to be seen by Heath's team, and the Time machine is able to bring them here in full flesh, thus solving the paradox(kinda).
Your idea is supported by a very obscure bit of lore that you can extrapolate from Pokémon Platinum, described by a Hiker NPC in the library.
The multiverse isn't simply infinite, but it's expanding at an infinitely fast rate. This is because Arceus sees its created world through every living being within it, and as a result, its own understanding of the world it made becomes greater and more elaborate. When anyone simply thinks (dreams) of an idea, that idea has already begun to exist in its own universe. Terapagos then bridges the gap between those worlds. This is why Paradox Pokémon look so 'cartoonish' in how they represent their time period; they represent the general idea of how people imagine the distant past and future.
Doesn't matter how much you say "Dream theory is wrong, here's literal evidence from game, way back in the base game" people are still gonna say it's true hahaha XD Lovely video, I'm curious if you have any theories on where Terapagos came from. I got my own but not gonna say! I wanna hear yours!
Haha, right?!? It blows my mind that some people still believe Dream Theory. It didn't make sense before, and it's totally disproven now.
I think there are 2 possibilities for where Terapagos came from:
1. Terapagos came from whatever object (probably a meteor) crashed into Paldea, thus creating the Great Crater. This would be similar to Deoxys.
2. Terapagos lived deep within the planet, and when the meteor crashed into Paldea, Terapagos then had a way up to the surface. This would be similar to Groudon and Kyogre.
What's your idea?
@CaylasCapsule Same as your first one! That it crashed into the planet from outer space. Its tera type is STELLAR and is sat on what looks like a meteor, so seems reasonable. There's some stuff about how there were more and a cave in killed all but one, but I don't see why both can't be true. Maybe a bunch crashed in Paldea, bred, there was a few, and THEN the cave in happened?
I love your videos you are my favorite theorist ❤
Aww thank you so much! :)