On a side note, this series is pretty cool to watch and it helped me a lot. Not only I learned how to play them, but I was really lost in the meta after not playing HS since Naxx release, so knowing the common decks really helps me to understand how to counter them. Currently I'm playing with a Mech Shaman (I had to dust a lot of shit to make this deck), Zoo and also Patron Warrior (because Grim Patron is really, really cheap to make). Patron Warrior got boring really fast though, but I'm having a lot of fun with Mech Shaman and Zoo and I currently reached rank 15 for the first time. Feels good.
I know they're not the same as Face Hunter and Eboladin but they do end up rushing you down. And Mech Shaman, with a good opening and a bit of luck, can win on turn 3 without killing a minion. Isn't that what SMOrc is all about?
Edit. Another important card sub in the deck is to swap shade of naxx for druid of the flame. The druid is better against aggro with the 2/5 form. While shade works against control/ slow decks since he can just sit and grow to big sizes.
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier Long time ago Harvest Golem was also played in ramp to stop aggression. Druid of the flame is better than harvest in most cases but who cares since without Aviana ramp druid sucks
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier Can vouch for Druid of the Flame. I play it in ramp instead of Shade. It's a really good minion to innervate out on turn 1 as well as coin wildgrowth out on turn 2. I rarely use it as a 5/2 though, even if it's innervated out. Since there are a surprising amount of ways to kill it on turn 2.
Paul McConnehey I very strongly disagree. You can't play MCT turn 3 for full effect and you gain zero benefit from wild growth-ing or innervating it out early. Especially considering most 2drops can trade 1:1 with it. Playing it later on to make use of its battlecry is pointless, you're playing a ramp deck with much better options than MTC later on. In a midrange druid deck, sure, go for it. But MCT doesn't help you survive the early game like shade or DotF do. Which is extremely vital in a ramp deck. The DotF is also there to fall back on when you don't draw into any of your ramp cards early. MCT simply doesn't provide that same level of safety.
I played arena for the third time in my life yesterday. The last time was over a year ago and I got 3 wins. Now I got 8 wins with an okay draft. I just wanted to thank you for your teaching trump. :)
Like most terms jn hearthstone, Ramp comes from mtg. It's not actually that your mana is being ramped but it is named off the mtg card rampant growth, which was one of the first ramp cards made
Kezan Mystic can be another game changer against Hunter and Mage in this deck. Also tends to piss em off which is a bonus. Ysera can also just win the game for you if you can hide it behind taunts. Ramp druid is wrecking ladder for me right now, especially in the 10-15 range with all the aggro.
+x1teDota (I couldn't hit reply to your comment, so here I guess) He didn't wrath for 1 on the keeper because of a few reasons, he already had a play for the next two turns at least, so he didn't need the card draw at the time. By keeping it he also has flexibility for future turns, he could use it to kill something behind a taunt or deal 3 damage instead of having to resort to trading. On another note, having 1 more card in hand has psychological effects on the opponent, because they don't know what your hand is. They know you probably have two wraths in your deck, but they don't know if you have it at the time or not, so they might play around it. It turns out here that it didn't matter, but it's something to think about. Basically, it's good to use your hero power more if you're already ahead and don't need to use all of your removal. Only wrath for 1 instead of hero power if you are actually looking to draw cards, don't just throw away removal.
The name Ramp actually comes from Magic the Gathering (like most of the Hearthstone terminology). t comes from the card Rampant Growth (which does more or less the same as Wild Growth does in Hearthstone.
It would be nice if you also showed a budget version. Even if you didn't play it, this series is for newer players as I understand and you can't expect them to have the legendaries.
I'm sure most people know this, but the reason why you call it ramp in the first place is because of the card "Rampant Growth" in Magic, which is very similar to Wild Growth in HS
wondering why you didnt feature stuff like echo mage, combo priest (kolento) or aggro paladin (I can see why you didnt pick this one in order to avoid redundance due to having featured the similar aggro decks listed already). fantastic series though, my favorite until now, that you finished. ^^
I play a dragon ramp druid, works great, includes things like nourish, cromaggus, blackwing corruptor, and ysera, ysera is great in ramp druid because if you get ysera awakens on turn 5 (2 innervates) or turn 7 (1 innervate) the opponent has absolutely no chance, since ysera dodges shadowwords, and bgh + abusive
Sad that you nevershowed a heal from the ancients - I know it is better to draw Cards in most situations, but if you fai to get the taunts against aggro, the heals can sometimes buy you the time to stabilize.
I think about some variation for this deck with newcard Aviana. Yes, I know its not actually strong card, but i wanna try. The idea is playing wild growth and some midgame defence cards and when i will have 10 mana crystals play Aviana-Innervate-Kel'Thused-Ancient of War-Lotheb and next turn just playing some big cards which will be cost 1 mana each. I think this Ramp base will be good for this deck, but i cannot decide what exactly i wanna replace for Lotheb and Aviana. There is not so many way to deal with KT and Aviana at the same time when i have 5-10 taunt on the board and Lotheb, but i know how weak it sounds. Any ideas?
I've always liked Ramp Druid but unless the meta game calls for it (witch it rarely does) Savage/Force combo Midrange Druid is almost always better. Hopefully Darnassus and Aviana gives this deck the boost it needs to be tier 1 or 2 again.
why do you value a 2nd sludge belcher over a 2nd druid of the claw? i view the versatility of dotc which can fill the same role and is not as weak to silences to be more potent.
For this Deck wouldn't the Joust Mechanic be better than the Zombie Chow because the chances of drawing a higher card than your opponent be better than a guaranteed 5 Hp boost for the enemy seeing as though the curve is so much higher then a normal deck?
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier And face hunter is called that because they trade. No, they ignore the chows and keep going face, if you trade with the chows he will simply keep playing more creatures. Most face hunter creatures only have 1 life thus annoy-o-tron is also a 2 for one.
I just got Cenarius today from a pack but I'm still missing a lot of cards such as Harrison Jones, Sylvanas, Ancient of Lore, Ancient of War. No way I can do a Druid deck without good cards like that.
BanditoPlays Harrison Jones, Sylvanas is replacable and will work quite well. But Ancient of Lore and Ancient of War is 100% required. :( if you got Force of nature and Ancient of Lore then you could try a midrange druid instead and skip the Ancient of war aswell.
Poifix I prefer 2 belcher 1 DotC personally. The 1/2 ooze is more annoying for aggro decks to deal with than a 6 hp minion. The belchers are weaker to silence though so it's whatever you prefer.
That is true I guess but the charge mode is only really viable if you can lethal with it, which isn't very often considering you'd also be running combo in that case. Or you could charge to put them in range of combo but, again, that doesn't happen very often. Every other time you just put it in taunt mode. It is basically a taunt 90-95% of the time.
Hey, one question, how does Trump calculate the gold you need to make this deck? Because 42 packs doesn't look enought to me to get exactly that legendary and epi cards. Thanks
Ramp druid seems so broken and unfair. When you see how easily it can fend off an aggresive onslaught is just beyond my understaing. That poor warlock was all tears and salt.
SabakuSouSou87 It doesn't always work, if the aggro can deal with your one minion per turn, you will end up getting overwhelmed, because swipe just doesn't do enough damage without spell power.
I'm curious how the "gold cost" for the decks are calculated... They don't seem to make sense to me... 42 packs is going to get you 7300 dust? In what world? Or is it based on arena plays and expected rewards somehow?
+Jesse Finnerty its the cost of naxx and brm wing, which are 700 gold a wing. 4200 is 6 wings. you need all (5) of naxx and the first one of brm for emperor thaurissan
William Green OHHH, right, I forgot... the cards that can only be gotten from the adventure mode... I see, so it's that much dust AND that much gold, I get it now... thanks.
I like this deck but never seemed to get a profitable moment to use thaurissan so I ditched it. I mean most of your card draw is endgame after thaurissan.
SoccerSnipez I'd not run it - even for 2 Mana. It can get silenced, it can get stolen and used by the enemy (worst case) or it can be timed so well that it causes an overdraw. Also the effect isn't immediate, so you just spend 3 mana for filling your board with a dud. On the other hand it counters Patron warrior, flamestrike and hellfire, not to mention swipe and consecration... Edit: And all other aoe like flurry and nova
FELCommentary Like he sad in the video, in Druid the games tend to be pretty long, so you can drop the Shade early on and have it grow, to trade it into a big threat later on.
This is a comment/question to everyone and Trump. I was wondering if there are cheaper card replacements, particularly for the cards that come from the Solo Adventures. I'm working hard to save up gold for them, but in the meantime would like to play this deck. Thanks in advance!
Tolik B You could consider replacing sludge belchers for fen creepers (or another Druid of the claw). The other cards such as zombie chow are important for the deck to survive early vs aggro so they are hard to replace. Possibly harvest golem or spider tank instead of the shade of naxxramas (again not a great replacement). Thaurissan helps get those big minions out easily and Kelthuzad solidifies the board incredibly well so I think they need to be in there too unfortunately. I have been facing a tonne of mages and hunters recently, so I would swap the BGH for a kezan mystic instead. Overall I would recommend building a combo druid deck for now (if you have those cards) while you wait to unlock the adventures. Some decks simply dont work without the key cards.
Tolik B Another good replacement for shade that you missed is druid of the flame. The 2/5 body early game is great for aggro, especially if you don't have zombie chow. on top of that it has the ability to be a 5/2 late game behind a taunt to trade into bigger minions. Over all i think its an underrated card, but shade is really solid in Ramp and a must have in Combo.
Gralof Gaming I didnt mention that because Druid of the flame is from BRM which he said he didn't have yet. But yeah you are right, it's definitely a good swap vs aggro.
I just been wondering how exactly does Force of Nature interact with Kel'Thuzad? If the Minions are killed they will respawn at the end of my turn but they still have the effect that they will die at the end of my turn? So what happens then? The same is when they actually survive my turn in the first place and die from their own effect. Will they still respawn? Has anyone ever tried that?
Milkeon The Cute shade is often not always used for savage roar, its a common 3 drop in druid because its slower but fits the 2 for 1 theme. if it was only used for the common savage roar combo it would never be played so early.
I Have no Idea why is there 4200 gold since its 42 packs and in one pack is 40 dust (5 for 4 commons, 20 for one rare) and 40x42 is only 1680 dust... trump Plz
lol 14:41 - the truth
Denis Viskov thanks, i was going to miss it
Denis Viskov lol
+Denis Viskov Altough in Trump we trust
On a side note, this series is pretty cool to watch and it helped me a lot. Not only I learned how to play them, but I was really lost in the meta after not playing HS since Naxx release, so knowing the common decks really helps me to understand how to counter them.
Currently I'm playing with a Mech Shaman (I had to dust a lot of shit to make this deck), Zoo and also Patron Warrior (because Grim Patron is really, really cheap to make).
Patron Warrior got boring really fast though, but I'm having a lot of fun with Mech Shaman and Zoo and I currently reached rank 15 for the first time. Feels good.
***** Mech Shaman and Zoo are pretty SMOrc to be honest. They're just archetypes you can't be mad at.
I know they're not the same as Face Hunter and Eboladin but they do end up rushing you down. And Mech Shaman, with a good opening and a bit of luck, can win on turn 3 without killing a minion. Isn't that what SMOrc is all about?
Edit. Another important card sub in the deck is to swap shade of naxx for druid of the flame. The druid is better against aggro with the 2/5 form. While shade works against control/ slow decks since he can just sit and grow to big sizes.
Quincy Krans Interesting choice, I've never actually played Druid Of The Flamme but it sounds like a reasonable idea.
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier Long time ago Harvest Golem was also played in ramp to stop aggression. Druid of the flame is better than harvest in most cases but who cares since without Aviana ramp druid sucks
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier Can vouch for Druid of the Flame. I play it in ramp instead of Shade. It's a really good minion to innervate out on turn 1 as well as coin wildgrowth out on turn 2.
I rarely use it as a 5/2 though, even if it's innervated out. Since there are a surprising amount of ways to kill it on turn 2.
Quincy Krans mindcontrol tech > druid of the flame.. it's better verses aggro and control
Paul McConnehey I very strongly disagree.
You can't play MCT turn 3 for full effect and you gain zero benefit from wild growth-ing or innervating it out early. Especially considering most 2drops can trade 1:1 with it.
Playing it later on to make use of its battlecry is pointless, you're playing a ramp deck with much better options than MTC later on.
In a midrange druid deck, sure, go for it. But MCT doesn't help you survive the early game like shade or DotF do. Which is extremely vital in a ramp deck.
The DotF is also there to fall back on when you don't draw into any of your ramp cards early. MCT simply doesn't provide that same level of safety.
I remember this. He played for like 4 hours to record these two wins.
should i study chemistery or watch trump's new vid?
Homem Pijama You should probably study your English class instead.
+Mr.Plzholdthemayo Shots fired.
Everyone makes mistakes dear Mr Peperonni or whatever your name is
+Homem Pijama Mr please hold the mayonaide
+ficolas2 mayonaise*
Gold cost : 4200 blaze it
I'm early... better think of a joke!
My skill in Hearthstone.
morgan mango You missed the joke
+Jelmer Herms i missed it HARD
morgan mango
I think a funnier one would be your English.
Handsome Kiddo 'Skill in Hearthstone' would've been a good joke as well, no need for the extra word.
+Handsome Kiddo ya my jokes are a joke :(
In case it was confused with Ramp Druid (Warrior)
I played arena for the third time in my life yesterday. The last time was over a year ago and I got 3 wins. Now I got 8 wins with an okay draft. I just wanted to thank you for your teaching trump. :)
oh boy im so glad you told me: Ramp druid (druid), i had no idea ramp DRUID was a DRUID deck
BNR - Gaming Nah its a warlock deck in disguise
Like most terms jn hearthstone, Ramp comes from mtg. It's not actually that your mana is being ramped but it is named off the mtg card rampant growth, which was one of the first ramp cards made
Kezan Mystic can be another game changer against Hunter and Mage in this deck. Also tends to piss em off which is a bonus. Ysera can also just win the game for you if you can hide it behind taunts. Ramp druid is wrecking ladder for me right now, especially in the 10-15 range with all the aggro.
+x1teDota (I couldn't hit reply to your comment, so here I guess)
He didn't wrath for 1 on the keeper because of a few reasons, he already had a play for the next two turns at least, so he didn't need the card draw at the time. By keeping it he also has flexibility for future turns, he could use it to kill something behind a taunt or deal 3 damage instead of having to resort to trading. On another note, having 1 more card in hand has psychological effects on the opponent, because they don't know what your hand is. They know you probably have two wraths in your deck, but they don't know if you have it at the time or not, so they might play around it. It turns out here that it didn't matter, but it's something to think about.
Basically, it's good to use your hero power more if you're already ahead and don't need to use all of your removal. Only wrath for 1 instead of hero power if you are actually looking to draw cards, don't just throw away removal.
There's a post credit scene, guys!
Best end to any trump video. Ever. Can't stop laughing.
ramp druid (druid) ?? seriously Trump xD
Pogchamp
I miss all these old decks ;-;
The name Ramp actually comes from Magic the Gathering (like most of the Hearthstone terminology). t comes from the card Rampant Growth (which does more or less the same as Wild Growth does in Hearthstone.
I guess Trump won't be covering Murloc Face Priest.
Zombi Pineapple Go legendary #1 with it and it goes into the meta :D
Then maybe Trump will feature it
Woo Trumpuuuuuu (and Hi Jens!!!!)
Edit. That ramp in the background tho'
Yassss, I was just looking for a video to watch :D
A one of Tree of Life is also a good tech. it's saved me a couple times against Hunter and Pally :)
Stinso NI Yeah that sounds like a good idea, back in the day I also put in more heals like earthen ring and the 3 mana heal for 8 spell.
It would be nice if you also showed a budget version. Even if you didn't play it, this series is for newer players as I understand and you can't expect them to have the legendaries.
Thanks for the sweet decks trump
Jens, the link to the Patron video links to Mid-Druid.
(Thumbs up so Jens will see this)
The series is finally over BibleThump
In the lower ranks ramp does really well. I've only played a couple games this month and am 12-2.
I'm sure most people know this, but the reason why you call it ramp in the first place is because of the card "Rampant Growth" in Magic, which is very similar to Wild Growth in HS
The manacurve just looks like a ramp. Getting more mana makes that curve, the ramp, look steeper
wondering why you didnt feature stuff like echo mage, combo priest (kolento) or aggro paladin (I can see why you didnt pick this one in order to avoid redundance due to having featured the similar aggro decks listed already).
fantastic series though, my favorite until now, that you finished. ^^
Trump master of words: In the Early game you re pretty much always looking for... the early game :D
he gets the perfect starting hand.. ALWAYS
the power of editing
"Ramp" comes from the MtG card Rampant Growth, it's not a literal or figurative ramp.
I feel like the only thing Tournament is going to change is that I will be offered garbage joust cards in Arena.
Two words: Secret Paladin.
I play a dragon ramp druid, works great, includes things like nourish, cromaggus, blackwing corruptor, and ysera, ysera is great in ramp druid because if you get ysera awakens on turn 5 (2 innervates) or turn 7 (1 innervate) the opponent has absolutely no chance, since ysera dodges shadowwords, and bgh + abusive
jay finally some gameplay again
should totally do a control shaman deck teachings :3
Sad that you nevershowed a heal from the ancients - I know it is better to draw Cards in most situations, but if you fai to get the taunts against aggro, the heals can sometimes buy you the time to stabilize.
Ryan Ash In my experience that is pretty much only against face hunter
Felt weird having only two matches for this.
suggest taking out the shades and the shredder. Replace them with another senjin Drake and a Mind control tech.
I think about some variation for this deck with newcard Aviana. Yes, I know its not actually strong card, but i wanna try. The idea is playing wild growth and some midgame defence cards and when i will have 10 mana crystals play Aviana-Innervate-Kel'Thused-Ancient of War-Lotheb and next turn just playing some big cards which will be cost 1 mana each. I think this Ramp base will be good for this deck, but i cannot decide what exactly i wanna replace for Lotheb and Aviana. There is not so many way to deal with KT and Aviana at the same time when i have 5-10 taunt on the board and Lotheb, but i know how weak it sounds. Any ideas?
Trump's firing some shots at 11:32
I wonder if Trump is going to do a Control Pally teaching video.
Thank you Trump!
I've always liked Ramp Druid but unless the meta game calls for it (witch it rarely does) Savage/Force combo Midrange Druid is almost always better. Hopefully Darnassus and Aviana gives this deck the boost it needs to be tier 1 or 2 again.
why do you value a 2nd sludge belcher over a 2nd druid of the claw? i view the versatility of dotc which can fill the same role and is not as weak to silences to be more potent.
that new druid spell would be great in this
Wich one?
the add 10 mana card
+Josh Sharp I don't think that, discarding your hand is terrible
What can i replace for Cenarius?
I replaced one of the wars for a sunwalker, because it is really good with KT and as sticky as war. What do you think?
14:40
See Trump's just brutally honest LMFAO
between before your first game and when your first game started, you lost 150 coins by starting an arena run. RAWR
I ran this deck with Dr boom, savage roar, and 1 8/8 tree. Zero zombie chow, and only 1 innervate (second one kinda useless)
For this Deck wouldn't the Joust Mechanic be better than the Zombie Chow because the chances of drawing a higher card than your opponent be better than a guaranteed 5 Hp boost for the enemy seeing as though the curve is so much higher then a normal deck?
Cool ending hehe
What cards could be a possibility to replace the cards Shade of Naxxramas and Zombie Chow if you dont have the extensions? thanks in advance guys
More of the porno/lobby music Jens!!! More sassy Trump videos
Why Shade? Druid of the flame is much better
Yea...sure...
DSOCMHINN Trump used it back in the days?
Pixel Monster Druid is better against aggro and shade is better against control. It really depends on the meta.
Kao su Yep
Why is there a gold cost on the deck? Can someone explain the reasoning behind that? (Is it just avg dust of 42 packs...?
... so as I was going to find the gameplay, I skipped over some footage twice, all I heard was.. "RAMP DRUID. RAMP. RAMP DRUID" "DRUID VS DRUID"
Exchange Chows for Annoy-O-Trons. Stops face hunter better and is more viable than Chow later into the match.
kasPWI Actually Chow cost 1 many less and trade two minions usually while Annoy only one.
Lucien Antoine Quentin Pannatier
And face hunter is called that because they trade. No, they ignore the chows and keep going face, if you trade with the chows he will simply keep playing more creatures. Most face hunter creatures only have 1 life thus annoy-o-tron is also a 2 for one.
kasPWI Both cards will work. I still think chow is better overall if you take all classes in mind and not just face-hunter.
You should remake this series most of these are outdated with the cards. Information is usually still relevant though.
gamesforjake1 yah a druid deck heavy with choose one with no fandral gets wrecked nowadays
I just got Cenarius today from a pack but I'm still missing a lot of cards such as Harrison Jones, Sylvanas, Ancient of Lore, Ancient of War. No way I can do a Druid deck without good cards like that.
BanditoPlays Harrison Jones, Sylvanas is replacable and will work quite well. But Ancient of Lore and Ancient of War is 100% required. :(
if you got Force of nature and Ancient of Lore then you could try a midrange druid instead and skip the Ancient of war aswell.
I've seen Bloodmage Thalnos in older versions of this deck before. Why do they not use him anymore? No space in the deck?
+Евгений Булгаков He does the same job as Azure drake I think ._.
At 11:46; is Innervating and then playing double Wild Groth a bad idea and if so why is it a bad idea?
9:40 opponent's trades are painful to watch. almost certain killing 5/5 over chow is good here
I dont like that its only one druid of the claw. Its to strong of a card not having two.
Poifix I prefer 2 belcher 1 DotC personally. The 1/2 ooze is more annoying for aggro decks to deal with than a 6 hp minion. The belchers are weaker to silence though so it's whatever you prefer.
JayJa Vu
I like two of both. But i dont know what to take out for another druid of the claw.
Poifix 1 Senjin, 2 Druids, 2 Belchers, 2 Ancients of War and Cenarius. Do you really need that much taunt?
Chris Daley
Druid of the claw is not only used for taunt my friend.
That is true I guess but the charge mode is only really viable if you can lethal with it, which isn't very often considering you'd also be running combo in that case. Or you could charge to put them in range of combo but, again, that doesn't happen very often. Every other time you just put it in taunt mode. It is basically a taunt 90-95% of the time.
Holy shit I just realized you haven't done freeze mage yet...
trump can you make tutorial for control mage? the deck with duplicates and the 1/3 taunt that deal 1 damage but not with the ecko of medievh.
Hey, one question, how does Trump calculate the gold you need to make this deck? Because 42 packs doesn't look enought to me to get exactly that legendary and epi cards.
Thanks
The gold is calculated by the adventures. One wing of Naxx and BrM cost 700 gold and he uses quite a bit of cards from them.
Alex56541 Okey! Now I understand! Thanks!
Just got Cenarius from a pack and I've been thinking of making this deck. Although I have no ancient of lore or war. Which one should I craft first?
+Neil Provido
Definetly Lore, it's a card that can't be replaced. Ancient of War can be substituted if you really need to.
+Neil Provido Lore no doubt. War can be replaced with the basic ironbark protector.
idk why you wouldnt run force savage when it reliably gives you at least 14 damage burst which can easily be increased to over 20
Ramp druid seems so broken and unfair. When you see how easily it can fend off an aggresive onslaught is just beyond my understaing. That poor warlock was all tears and salt.
14:45
SabakuSouSou87 It doesn't always work, if the aggro can deal with your one minion per turn, you will end up getting overwhelmed, because swipe just doesn't do enough damage without spell power.
I'm curious how the "gold cost" for the decks are calculated... They don't seem to make sense to me... 42 packs is going to get you 7300 dust? In what world? Or is it based on arena plays and expected rewards somehow?
+Jesse Finnerty its the cost of naxx and brm wing, which are 700 gold a wing. 4200 is 6 wings. you need all (5) of naxx and the first one of brm for emperor thaurissan
William Green OHHH, right, I forgot... the cards that can only be gotten from the adventure mode... I see, so it's that much dust AND that much gold, I get it now... thanks.
I like this deck but never seemed to get a profitable moment to use thaurissan so I ditched it. I mean most of your card draw is endgame after thaurissan.
i dont have harrison and i have been matchin up againt a lot of control lately, can i switch ford for black night?
if i don have naxx what would be a good replace for the beltchers and the zombie??
trump u're the best
I never understood the Gold Cost on the top left. If you can only craft cards with Dust, where does the gold cost come from?
Adventure cards
would you change all of this decks with new cards? it'll be really interesting and helpful)
Randomly I just got an idea for a sweet new card... It should be a 3 mana 0/1 (so it can't attack) death rattle draw 2 and heal your hero for 2
Seems bad
SoccerSnipez so it's like an arcane intelect with a priest hero power? not that good
+Vltor Alessio 2 mana? Or to Op?
+SoccerSnipez I don't think it would be too op
SoccerSnipez I'd not run it - even for 2 Mana. It can get silenced, it can get stolen and used by the enemy (worst case) or it can be timed so well that it causes an overdraw. Also the effect isn't immediate, so you just spend 3 mana for filling your board with a dud.
On the other hand it counters Patron warrior, flamestrike and hellfire, not to mention swipe and consecration...
Edit: And all other aoe like flurry and nova
I always liked to play Druid, but the efficient Druid decks nowadays are just too expensive for me. ):
Dr. Boom is so good that you know need a reason NOT to run him.
Out of curiosity, why is Shade of Naxxramas so good with Druid in particular?
Its a great body for fon savage roar combo.
There for you could swap it out for druid of the flame
FELCommentary
Like he sad in the video, in Druid the games tend to be pretty long, so you can drop the Shade early on and have it grow, to trade it into a big threat later on.
Did trump play hand lock in casual earlier today on stream? I think I played him
+Sir Gray IV How many battle tags are there
Man, I wish Trump would have shown off Ramp Druid (Hunter) I've never been able to play that deck yet and I need help.
This is a comment/question to everyone and Trump.
I was wondering if there are cheaper card replacements, particularly for the cards that come from the Solo Adventures. I'm working hard to save up gold for them, but in the meantime would like to play this deck.
Thanks in advance!
SMOrc
Tolik B You could consider replacing sludge belchers for fen creepers (or another Druid of the claw).
The other cards such as zombie chow are important for the deck to survive early vs aggro so they are hard to replace.
Possibly harvest golem or spider tank instead of the shade of naxxramas (again not a great replacement).
Thaurissan helps get those big minions out easily and Kelthuzad solidifies the board incredibly well so I think they need to be in there too unfortunately.
I have been facing a tonne of mages and hunters recently, so I would swap the BGH for a kezan mystic instead.
Overall I would recommend building a combo druid deck for now (if you have those cards) while you wait to unlock the adventures. Some decks simply dont work without the key cards.
Thanks for the advice!
Tolik B Another good replacement for shade that you missed is druid of the flame. The 2/5 body early game is great for aggro, especially if you don't have zombie chow. on top of that it has the ability to be a 5/2 late game behind a taunt to trade into bigger minions. Over all i think its an underrated card, but shade is really solid in Ramp and a must have in Combo.
Gralof Gaming I didnt mention that because Druid of the flame is from BRM which he said he didn't have yet. But yeah you are right, it's definitely a good swap vs aggro.
taunt OP
Is sneed's old shredder a good replacement for cenarius?
What's the major difference between token and ramp Druid?
What is the reasoning behind shade instead of druid of the flame?
damn, is Cenarius replaceable? or should i make another deck?
Hey Trump can you do aggro pally next pls?
Thx Trump!
Hey Trump,
why didn't you double wild growth turn 2?
Would u do aggro mage next, please? :)
I just been wondering how exactly does Force of Nature interact with Kel'Thuzad? If the Minions are killed they will respawn at the end of my turn but they still have the effect that they will die at the end of my turn? So what happens then? The same is when they actually survive my turn in the first place and die from their own effect. Will they still respawn? Has anyone ever tried that?
If they die by trading,they get revived if they die and don't trade.That's what I remember
+Let's see how long usernames can get,I guess they can pretty damn long like really long Ah I see. Thank you for explaining
Why Shade? You don't have Savage Roars in this deck
You can play it early then when it grows it can easily get a 2 for 1 for only three mana
Milkeon The Cute shade is often not always used for savage roar, its a common 3 drop in druid because its slower but fits the 2 for 1 theme. if it was only used for the common savage roar combo it would never be played so early.
is it ever worth it to play your second wild growth say, past turn 5?
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At first i read the comment and was like "yeah ok that makes sense", but then i noticed your name.
I Have no Idea why is there 4200 gold since its 42 packs and in one pack is 40 dust (5 for 4 commons, 20 for one rare) and 40x42 is only 1680 dust... trump Plz
Can some one answer how can i find out trumps email or something to add as a friend list , just want to watch him in spectator mode. Thanks
Combo Druid or Ramp Druid?
Even Hybrid?
Which is better right now
None of them.