STARLINK Head to Head! (Residential vs Portable/RV for Full Time RV)
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- We've been using Starlink (Portability) for about six months now, all over the place. Quality and speeds seem to be all over the place, so when we got another Starlink for our Cabin, we were curious how the residential and portable versions stack up! ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Click SHOW MORE to see all of the details related to this video!
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00:00 Intro
00:51 What is Throttling?
01:59 Portability vs Mobility
02:26 Stalink Equipment
03:34 Antenna Placement
04:35 Types of Service (Residential vs RV vs Portability)
06:44 Starlink App Features
09:06 Starlink Advanced Speed Testing
10:30 Head-To-Head Testing
15:20 How to Order NOW
19:48 Our Recommendations
20:52 Working From The Road
22:25 Our Plan Going Forward
23:26 Outtakes!
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There have been some questions about the efficacy of the tests given each phone was hitting different test servers... There are two reasons I think the different servers had little effect on the tests: First, those servers and the internet backbone from starlink ground stations are designed to handle MUCH faster traffic than the sub-100Mbps tests I was running. It might affect latency more than throughput but that wasn't what I was focused on. Second, you can see in the test I did at 19:18 (after changing the address on the portable service) that the same servers are still being used and the speed tests are identical. Which is even more proof the throttle was service address based. The test was not scientific nor perfect, but I do believe it was a fair test and proved Starlink Portable was throttled compared to the Residential (at residence) service.
Great job Chad, very helpful info. I will forward it to my friend a patriot, "Grey Wolf" whose traveling across the country bringing awareness to things going on in the government. He's a TH-camr as well.
Good comparison. Saw similar speed gains when changed from portability to service at actual service address (cell).
one thing i noticed is when you tested you have the speed test set to different cities, So the tests will be different because of ping and how many hops you have to take to get to the test ISP. I would like to see both tests at the same time using Morris Broadband, LLC in Hendersonville, NC If you have time to post a video of that :) . You can manually set them in the speed test app. I have residential Starlink with portability here in Texas and my speeds are slower then what they where a year ago but still average 120 Mbps down and 15 Mbps Up. Thank you for the work you put in on this video awesome work i just feel the test wasn't fair by using different test sites.
I have portable and my guess is that when I set it up long term I get higher speeds. If I move it around a reset the location geographically it’ll be slow for a while. If I’ve been set up a week I think I get higher speeds. Just a thought on how prioritization May be affected by continuity of connection.
I get 80 on my mobile system at my home base so I’d do the test on your portable after it’s been set up for a week in the same location to make sure the prioritization does not change over time.
I put my Starlink dish in a backpack and hiked to the edge of the Grand Canyon where I hosted a live webinar for 2,000 people. I powered it with a Jackery battery pack. It worked great.
Sick!!!!!!! 🙌
Sounds like it was worth it! Awesome!
Sold !!!! Lol. I didn't have cell reception at the south rim. So that means starljnk is legit !!!
Ditto. Only did WebEx two way business broadcast. I also bought the factory Starlink backpack. Works very well. Used Bluetti solar generator (had portable solar panels, not needed. I have problem with his testing. 1.) dishys were too close to each other. Actually the residential will interfere with the RV dish slowing it down. 2.) his wifi was a problem. There was ton of co-channel interference on both of his routers. Even if he had limited to the Wifi 6 5ghz channels for both which have more channels (he was still using 2.4 in his mix which only have three limited speed clear of interference channels), there will be problems with the wifi side. 3.) The speed tester does not show the RF latencies and other related issues the would slow down not just the “speed” read out, but actual performance based on the RF (not TCPIP) old wifi packet limitations. This test was a mess. For former IT person, he is not familiar with WLAN stack. Otherwise he would have also tested the RF environment using license Air-Magnet (or equivalent).
Or used two Ethernet adapters connected hardwired to say two laptops. Not using wifi at all.
Then separated the dishy antennas. Which would not have impacted unequally their sky view (based on him showing the sky view on cam). This may have limited possibility of the interference between them being so close.
In the end, the pure residential would have worked better. So to the RV system using traffic shaping QOS policies for that system (which could have shown slower speeds depending on two way dishy-sat-to sat(s)-ground station-to peered Starlink internet backbone). Depending on where he is, and if they are talking to version 1.5 sats (which have laser sat to sat com in order to extend reach to a ground station), we would want to make sure both dishy were using the same path to/from at the same moment of time. In fact, both dishy are able to make their own changes to their own possible unique pathway. That also adds variability.
I appreciate this test. Understanding this has many issues to be accurate representation of the two systems.
@@johnross6314... very well explained and pointed out the flaws on the test!
Thanks for this update on Starling, one of the most positive of all we've watched. I didn't even realize that we were always being deprioritized! We really enjoy all your teaching videos, Chad.
This was an excellent teaching tool. I am running SL some of the times and this explained so well why I have some issues. Keep ‘em coming!!!!
I have watched a lot of rv/internet videos and this has been the most helpful by far. Thank you!
I install Starlink, you did a fantastic job at explaining this. Better than many professionals
I have one thing to say...WOW! I've been searching and searching for a layperson's instructional video on internet mobility options for RV's and I've found it in yours. It makes sense! THANK YOU. (most are inadequate or above my paygrade) We're not FT RV'rs but may be some day and we need affordable good connectivity for work. LIKED! SUBSCRIBED! Thanks again!
I'm from Kansas. It's so nice to hear that some people still know where Kansas is. Love your videos.
This is the best video I've seen on this topic. Thanks, brother!
Nice explanation as always Chad. Hope your family is staying safe and healthy.
Thanks Chief for all your content. My family and I are also retired navy and you and your wife have helped us out a lot as we full time.
I believe he separated as a second class. But I concur completely, wife and I are both 5 years from retirement from the Navy and Chad/Tara as well as happily ever hanks have been our road map for planning our retirement.
@@tripnick3 I retired as a CM1 in 2011 and my wife did 8 years and had enough. We love our veterans
What a great comparison! Thanks for doing this and enlightening us. This helped drive my decision about Starlink for now.
I can always count on you guys for the best informative content thank you
Thanks Chad I totally agree with all of your findings. I love my Starlink and know it is not without its own issues.
This timely, I am ordering mine this week. Thanks for the content.
Great video and so easy to understand! We received our RV version a few weeks ago and tried it RV version and it worked great in an area where there was no cell service. We had roughly 45% of the view of the sky and did cut out quite a bit but not when watching streaming video. Tried the WiFi calling feature and worked well. When I lost signal, it kept the line open and sometimes it would go silent for the time it was down but when it came back, I was still connected to the person I called. Pretty cool! Thanks again, and I subscribed and rang the bell 🙂
Thanks Chad. Very useful information. We just ordered Starlink for our RV. We are looking forward to trying it out.
Hey Chad, No matter how hard you tried NOT to GEEK out, a ton of this video was sky hi over my head, but you tried darn hard. And I now have the video to go over and over again until I understand it. Great job. We live in south-eastern Washington state, about 1/2 a mile from the Idaho boarder, so I think it will be a while before I give this a try. The residential with portability added does look like the best option for us. Many thanks for your due diligence!
I really enjoy all your teaching videos. Thank you, Chad.
Very informative. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!
Thank you for making this video! I hope to make the right decision for my situation when the time comes.
I've tested many services and just gave up! I finally talked to the right person who had found a way around prioritization on cell service and now I have no problems.
Chad, again, you nailed it! Thank you!
This video explains everything you need to know about Starlink. Love it! Amazing job. I couldn't find the info about outages and speed priority anywhere else.
My wife and I have been full-timers for going on 5 years. The first 4 in a Grand Design 5th wheel then we upgraded to a Tiffin motorhome 6 months ago. I've been using the Starlink since April of 2022 and turned on travel mode just for the month of July. But my speeds were crappy (for SL) in the 60 to 90 Mbps range download and about 10 Mbps up.
So I turned off travel mode and have just been changing the service address to somewhere near our camping spot. Right now, it's targeted exactly on top of our campsite in Newport, Oregon and we've been getting between 150 and 225 download speeds consistently for the past month; about 15 to 25 up.
Here's an update: 3 months later, we're consistently getting around 160 down using our residential starlink that we paid $500 for. I just don't see the need for the newer models.
This is so horrifying to hear that a person can’t just get the RV version and call it a day with perfect service. Always some damn struggle for us Nomads, but I guess I’m getting used to it. Going on 3 years now.
We will be on the north coast and am not excited about spending the hardware cost and 150 a month for ther ROAM package if I can only get 10mbps. Are you still getting those speeds?
You're the best, very understandable and accurate. Thank you.
That is actually a seriously a creative hack! Well done Sir, well done indeed.
Literally just seen a few of these a week ago start popping up at the parks. Didn't even know what they were. Great explanation and insight
Hi Chad. We love watching your channel. We've definitely learned a lot from you and Tara and we'll keep watching as long as you're putting out content. I just bought my own Starlink setup (RV plan) and although it was easy to set up and get running I wish I'd seen this video first. However, based on my own research, I'm not sure I agree with trying to trick the system by using random addresses that actually have coverage...for a couple reasons. First, I read (on the Technomadia site, I believe) that Starlink is considering getting rid of the address loophole by requiring residential with portability users to connect within their home area occasionally, which might affect some people's ability to use their Starlink if they CAN'T connect within the area of the randomly chosen address they provided initially. Additionally, I believe the reason for getting deprioritized is because they (Starlink) don't want areas to get flooded with a ton of unexpected users (like RV'ers) which could cause the folks who actually live in that area to see degraded service. Starlink is trying to ensure everyone has reliably fast connections by ensuring their network doesn't get overloaded. They do that, in part, by ensuring residential areas aren't getting invaded by a flood of us nomads.
Just wanted to give my 2 cents on this. I could be wrong here, so let me know what you think.
Thanks, again, for all the great videos and keep up the great work!
So what do us Rvers do? Im in the market for some internet services for ours. I think most of the time we will have service at parks and such but need it for those times we dont. Are you saying Starlink will prioritize residential customers in an area over the Rvers that could be at an RV park or whatever? Edit, I think Im reading that right so for us starlinks initial setup fee and 150 a month now isnt worth it for those kinds of speeds. Im seeing people getting 10mbp or less when in populated areas. Thats almost unusable with running 3 phones, streaming, gaming and pc for work.
Thank You for your education and sharing this with us, I appreciate you guys
We just got our StarLink dish and couldn’t decide on which plans to sign up for. Your video was very good informative. Thank you! ❤️
Great video and very clear on the results. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for the information Chad, love the videos!
Chad as always you have provided us with great information on the star-link services. I believe your information to be the most accurate I have watched so far.
As for the trains and the kid riding the weed whacker.
Your getting old brother. Mr Wilson
EXCELLENT video and information Chad! - Thanks! - Cheers!
Thank you for sharing. Always great content. You are appreciated.
I just got a residential Starlink with portability for my RV. It works great!
Hi.. I have an Rv and am trying to find out if starlink has a way to use one at home then when you travel but only pay one subscription…
On the speedtest app you weren't connected to the same end server, so that can be a major impact to speed. You need to force the same server for each "Speedtest app" test to be accurate.
Thanks Chad! As always, awesome info!
Thanks for the information. It was so nice meeting you guys at Hershey.
It was great meeting you guys too.. then meeting you again.. and again.. LOL. 😊
We watched your video on StarLink and placed and order, thank you very much for the information. Ken
Good advice and as in depth and detailed on info as we have come to expect.
It sounds like it's getting better, but still kind of hit and miss. Not really a big problem unless your working while traveling, like you do.
Hey you know technology it will change faster than you can get used to it.
God bless yall and stay safe.
Thanks for the info, we have been waiting to get Starlink, hoping portability improves. Your info helps.
The best part was the outtake at the end. ‘Don’t understand kids these days with these loud mufflers on lawnmower engines’. Classic Dad line. Love it.
I call those farty cars!
Great info and love the bloopers at the end.
This is awesome, thanks! Didn’t know this was an option! I’m also a retired goat, Uncle Sam’s Confused Group. I have a hotshot company now and have a sleeper birth on my truck. This is what I have been looking for. Much appreciated
Excellent video - especially the out takes
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Good clear relevant info, but I love the outtakes most of all 😎
Great info as always...So my takeaway is Starlink is Skynet and they'll do whatever they want as they prepare the robots! LOL Bloopers are awesome!
Thank you! Answers a lot of questions.
Thank you so much for your video. I just ordered the RV version :) because I don't need it all the time. Thx
Thanks Chad fantastic information on the Link!
Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video. Helped me understand it much better.
Great info, thanks for putting this out there!
Great info - Nicely done!!
Great video. Very informative. Thank you
Fantastic video Chad! Best I've seen on the topic so far. And the rice burners???? Yeah, I feel the same way. Like adding an annoying muffler is going to improve performance on your 150hp car. Sheesh! Hi Tara!
Thanks Chad. Lots of traffic there. Good info.
Thank you so much. Excellent work.
"Sounds like a big weed eater!" Awesome and agree 100%! Thanks for the info.
Very helpful, very relevant info , Thx so much !
Great info and explanation! Thank you!
Thanks Chief! That helped a lot. Lamont ASCM Retired
Great information, thanks for sharing!
Would love to see you do the test again..... July 2023 and see if there is a difference. 👍😎
We started with the Residential and used an address from another location to get it. It supposedly would take another year or more for our area. We didn't have great service at our home due to the trees here in OH. Therefore we switched to the RV and love it. We haven't had much trouble with downloads but it is very handy money wise for us due to being able to close it out. So very worth our money as our Verizon using cell towers was almost just as expensive and was a month charge. Not for everyone, but we love it. Especially for Duane watch the Buckeyes play... Deana
Hi Chad & Tara - This is a super important test you did, but kind of deflating for anyone on the RV option ☹ I was an early adopter of Starlink myself (did the whole put in address with availability & ship to a different address in April) and have even done a few videos on it, but this was before they offered the official RV option. I had an address I used about 30 minutes outside of Vegas that was actually the Boulder Municipal Golf Course as Vegas wasn't available, but Boulder was, and then had it shipped to my Las Vegas address. I added the Portability option and traveled throughout the west with it April - July and it worked great. I typically had speeds over 100 Mbps.
I knew I was going to be at my place here in Nashville the next couple months catching up on editing and not traveling so switched my account over to the RV option so I could pause the service and not have to pay during the months I'm not on the road. Now I'm bummed to see your speeds.
I haven't turned my service back on, but am super curious to see what the speeds are. I also wonder if being out west helped the speeds too earlier in the year and there wasn't as many people using it. The map still shows spotty service throughout the eastern side of the US so maybe that could be a contributing factor?? I think you said your cabin is near the TN/NC area. I'm planning to get back out on the road next week and plan to head to the east coast so will report back once I turn it back on and do some tests.
Thank you for doing the tests and the video as it's really going to help people make the correct decision when ordering their Starlink. $700 isn't cheap for the hardware and as you pointed out, now that I've switched over to the RV option, there's no going back, so I'm stuck with the throttled speeds. I always knew the RV option would deprioritize me, but not to that extent.
Anyways... keep up the great content and safe travels when you get back on the road 😀
From what I read, it seems there is a lot less (maybe none) deprioritization out west, in available coverage areas.
Keep in mind prior to his testing here he showed us a bit of obstruction in the 100 degree line of sight needed. That's about what I had when I set the antenna on my deck, when I stuck it on a 14 ft pole the obstruction cleared and bandwidth more than doubled on average... I think with phase shifting when they say no obstructions they mean it. Which seems to be a negative factor over line of sight point to point wireless, unless you only camp in the dessert.
I have the RV version for about 6 months in california and get around 50Mbps regardless of location. I've never seen the super slow speeds shown in this video, but do get a little jealous of the 100+mbps some people are getting.
I am holding on puchasing SL until I see the test with your Pepwave. I have a Pepwave and hope it can be utilized with SL. Looking forward to your next test vid. Thanks for doing these tests. You are the RV Geek communities hero!
I show using starlink with our pepwave in our last internet video, using wifi as wan... 👍🏼 th-cam.com/video/23DQ3LOmrmM/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Thanks for the info!
Great video! thank you
Thanks for the great info. Pretty hard to keep up with what you were saying. You did a great job explaining. It is somewhat hard to comprehend.
Excellent video on the options out there and how to add Residential any where you live in the country. I was able to get Starlink 2 years ago how you explained. I have the round dish and was part of the BETA program. Have moved my "residential service" 5-6 times after they implemented the mobile service in June. So far they haven't dinged me yet and made me add portability, knock on wood.😀 I'm in the West, UT/AZ/NV, and out in the middle of no where most of the time. My speeds average 100-150Mb down and 25-50Mb up.
My only negative has been how much power it requires to run. About 90 watts, so it's a power sucker for sure for anyone living off grid. I understand the square dish is quite a bit less, but isn't as efficient a dish. Starlink is a game changer for mobility nomads, but not the end all for internet. I won't be giving up my ATT Hotspot anytime soon.
Excellent and informative video! I think your testing methods were actually quite good. You did it the most accurate way possible, given the variables you could control. I could see using it as my primary internet with cell service for backup.
Great vid!! Thank you very much!! Very helpful
As if the throttling in Urban areas wasn't enough, this morning, Starlink announced a $15 per month increase for RV'rs only. Now $150 per month ! Sending mine back
Not a moment too soon I stumbled on this highly detailed comparison between the residential and mobile Starlink units, and sir, I doff my hat with gratitude because I was really close to buying a mobile Starlink setup, and now realize that the internet speed and general reliability of the system are way better with the residential system at a fixed address.
I would like to enquire whether that monthly $130 is still the monthly amount paid today in February 2023, or whether that figure has been reduced to a lower monthly bill as suggested by my preliminary research into this subject.
I was not surpised bit still awesome!!
Awesome information. Thanks
That's was an awesome comparison... Thank you.
Thanks for sharing your results and advice! 🖖🏻👍🏻😘🙏🏻
Very helpful video!
Nice and thorough!!
Jiminy crickets! That's a lot of deprioritization! Thanks for the thorough testing Chad!
Great video, Chad! Took your recommendation: Ordered Residential where it was immediately available, shipped to where we are, added portability. Received the unit yesterday and followed these steps. Two quick questions (with apologies if they've already been answered): (1) You say one can turn portability off (and try to change one's service address) at any time, but that one won't see the extra CHARGE for portability dropped until the next billing cycle. That said, is the portability cancellation--and, therefore, the DEPRIORITIZATION--instant? (2) It appears that these changes get made within the Account Portal, which is accessed by clicking the "Manage" button from the "Your Starlinks" section on the Home page. Is this correct, and what is the proper sequence for making the changes? Is it, first, edit service address to your current location (and see if it "takes") then, second, remove portability? or vice-versa, or something completely different?
Very useful content. Also enjoyed your outtakes. 😂
Great info
Super useful video! Thxs
Thanks for this video. Can you do a comparison between the high performance antenna vs regular antenna?
Thanks, great info.
Lol love the bloopers at the end great video
Great info, thanks
Great video I have also found the same true with my SL. I have always wanted to see a side by side of the round ver 2 dishy that I have vs the new square dishy and see if the hardware makes a difference in speed.
Great video, thank you
Great information 👍
Great video. Good to hear there is an RV-only option. Like you comment about weed-eater engines.
This was a good review. The way I look at it, things will only get better as they launch more satellites.
Helpful. Thank you
Great test. I just bought Starlink (Roam / RV). We will be living in our RV soon after selling our house. I have fired the unit up twice and we are in central Texas in the "dark zone" but are still able to get a signal. I've only had it on twice but have been impressed with streaming movies on the TV. If throttling means mid to high 4g vs full on 5g, and I get this kind of result, then I'm good. Hopefully all of this will be a mute point as they put more satellites in the air!
Thank you