I live in Pocatello where the flood pushed out onto the Snake River Plain. We have millions of flood boulders every where you look. People use them for yard decorations. The flood flowed over the top of where my house now sits. when the foundation to my house was built, flood boulders had to be dug up and removed.
Great explanation of lake Bonneville. I live in SLC, you can see the shore lines of the old lake on the mountains. You can see them when you're driving out to Wendover NV.
I really like what your doing, great factual infomation, however you could use a wireless mic you wouldn't have to shout so loud and your audio will be more consistant.
I wish there were an Internet when I was a kid. I grew up in Kamloops BC... and have the exact geology we are watching here... plus a mini gold-rush. And thats why im interested. We have basalt mesa's and right behind.. hundreds of feet high... river-rock cut banks.. Totally interesting!! Thanks sagebrush!!
Very interesting mate. I was actually thinking meteor strike before you explained the flood. Can you picture the life and vegetation that must have been around that great lake. All gone in a matter of months due to the flood and banks breaking. Blows my mind. Cheers Moose Down Under.
+mounty27 The lake didn't lose its entire volume, but the water level dropped about 300 feet. That's still a lot of water downstream in a flash! The remaining water stayed around for a long time after. Gradually the climate changed and became warmer and drier. Eventually the lake just dried up. What is now The Great Salt Lake next to Salt Lake City, Utah is all that remains, along with the famous Bonneville Salt Flats where the fastest cars in the world go to set speed records. ATB. Bob
I have a theory that explains the results we take for granted. I've been writing the story you describe for some time, as part of what caused the example you wonder about. Your comments around the 14-minute mark sound exactly like the actions I've been describing in my work! All the rocks around where you were standing showed heavy tumbling and erosion by fast-moving water. The water didn't come from Bonneville. Bonneville was the result of the flood that caused the damage you speak of, the water coming from farther from the east, across Wyoming. Bonneville emptied south, except for the Great Salt Lake, once much larger, because there was no outlet, but most of the water flooding southwesterly, eventually finding the Colorado River from the western side, even as another trapped body of water worked its way west from the center of the Colorado Plateau.
Very probably, the volcanic ash was contemporary with the silted dirt, picked up when the water that overwashed the entire western US, south of the Snake River Valley, carving all those beautiful canyons and hoodoos. The material carried away was deposited in many places far from their origins. It wasn't long ago, only 2,750 to 4,500 years ago. A lot of mountain-building at the same time, with volcanic ash falling like snow. A tsunami easily a half-mile high washed over the newly-risen Colorado Plateau, carving the wonderland of canyons and mesas it's known for, continuing west until water lapped at the tops of the Sierra Nevadas and Cascades. Volcanoes were erupting like mad, whole forests were wiped out by the onrushing waters. Everything in the region was wiped off the face of the earth, even as new landscapes emerged.
All along the Snake River from Pocatello, Idaho to the Columbia river. Set up Google Earth to run in the background before watching the video. Then, as they appear on the screen, pause the video and input the GPS co-ordinates given to view an overhead look at the places I talk about. Thanks for watching!
The spot in the video is south of Nampa, Idaho. There are a lot of melon gravel beds near Hagerman, also. The really big rocks are around Massacre Rocks state park.
Understanding the problem so we can understand the solution. Regional mega drought in the southwest, caused by a lot of things but essentially more water is being used and is in one way or another moved out of the region then the amount of water that is re-entered into the region. Conservation has its place but it is not a solution to this problem. The demands on water will not abate without causing complete collapse so the only alternative is to introduce a new source of water. Drawing water from other regional rivers like the Columbia or the Mississippi or Missouri would only move the problem around, draining other regions. The only essentially inexhaustible source of water is the ocean. One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible. If I could explain my idea in an equation it would go something like. (seawater from the west coast moved inland + converted by combination geothermal/desalination projects = clean water and clean energy.) The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.
I live in Pocatello where the flood pushed out onto the Snake River Plain. We have millions of flood boulders every where you look. People use them for yard decorations. The flood flowed over the top of where my house now sits. when the foundation to my house was built, flood boulders had to be dug up and removed.
Really fascinating geology. Thanks for the presentation.
So good. This is what TH-cam was made for
I'm glad I came across this. I drove out there the other day and just started thinking and had some curiosity so I thought I'd do some googling.
Great explanation of lake Bonneville. I live in SLC, you can see the shore lines of the old lake on the mountains. You can see them when you're driving out to Wendover NV.
I really like what your doing, great factual infomation, however you could use a wireless mic you wouldn't have to shout so loud and your audio will be more consistant.
I wish there were an Internet when I was a kid. I grew up in Kamloops BC... and have the exact geology we are watching here... plus a mini gold-rush. And thats why im interested. We have basalt mesa's and right behind.. hundreds of feet high... river-rock cut banks.. Totally interesting!! Thanks sagebrush!!
Very nice! Thumbs up and Greetings from Ireland! :)
great history lesson. I'm itching to see what more you show us
That My Friend, Was Very Interesting. Glad we had the chance 2 Pick & Dig with ya. 2 Funny Idaho Traffic Jam ! Safe Journeys ! ATB Terry God Bless
Very interesting mate. I was actually thinking meteor strike before you explained the flood. Can you picture the life and vegetation that must have been around that great lake. All gone in a matter of months due to the flood and banks breaking. Blows my mind. Cheers Moose Down Under.
+mounty27 The lake didn't lose its entire volume, but the water level dropped about 300 feet. That's still a lot of water downstream in a flash! The remaining water stayed around for a long time after. Gradually the climate changed and became warmer and drier. Eventually the lake just dried up. What is now The Great Salt Lake next to Salt Lake City, Utah is all that remains, along with the famous Bonneville Salt Flats where the fastest cars in the world go to set speed records. ATB.
Bob
The sound must have been horrendous!!
excellent show
I have a theory that explains the results we take for granted. I've been writing the story you describe for some time, as part of what caused the example you wonder about. Your comments around the 14-minute mark sound exactly like the actions I've been describing in my work! All the rocks around where you were standing showed heavy tumbling and erosion by fast-moving water. The water didn't come from Bonneville. Bonneville was the result of the flood that caused the damage you speak of, the water coming from farther from the east, across Wyoming. Bonneville emptied south, except for the Great Salt Lake, once much larger, because there was no outlet, but most of the water flooding southwesterly, eventually finding the Colorado River from the western side, even as another trapped body of water worked its way west from the center of the Colorado Plateau.
Are you near twin falls or where are you at in the Idaho area standing?
I’m intrigued.
Very probably, the volcanic ash was contemporary with the silted dirt, picked up when the water that overwashed the entire western US, south of the Snake River Valley, carving all those beautiful canyons and hoodoos. The material carried away was deposited in many places far from their origins. It wasn't long ago, only 2,750 to 4,500 years ago. A lot of mountain-building at the same time, with volcanic ash falling like snow.
A tsunami easily a half-mile high washed over the newly-risen Colorado Plateau, carving the wonderland of canyons and mesas it's known for, continuing west until water lapped at the tops of the Sierra Nevadas and Cascades. Volcanoes were erupting like mad, whole forests were wiped out by the onrushing waters. Everything in the region was wiped off the face of the earth, even as new landscapes emerged.
This is awesome Bob! Where exactly is this located? I live in Salt Lake City and would love to see this!
All along the Snake River from Pocatello, Idaho to the Columbia river. Set up Google Earth to run in the background before watching the video. Then, as they appear on the screen, pause the video and input the GPS co-ordinates given to view an overhead look at the places I talk about. Thanks for watching!
Sorry I should have been a little more specific, where was the area with the melon gravel? Is that near Hagerman?
The spot in the video is south of Nampa, Idaho. There are a lot of melon gravel beds near Hagerman, also.
The really big rocks are around Massacre Rocks state park.
A world wide flood!
Thanks for sharing.
ARE YOU STILL WITH US BOB ???
Hello, Paul! Very busy with other things, but still alive. Hope to get back to this soon.
Patience is a virtue...I think. :-)
Sagebrushbob Good to hear and look forward to seeing you again 👍🏻 atb.
Fossilized rivers.
Understanding the problem so we can understand the solution. Regional mega drought in the southwest, caused by a lot of things but essentially more water is being used and is in one way or another moved out of the region then the amount of water that is re-entered into the region. Conservation has its place but it is not a solution to this problem. The demands on water will not abate without causing complete collapse so the only alternative is to introduce a new source of water. Drawing water from other regional rivers like the Columbia or the Mississippi or Missouri would only move the problem around, draining other regions. The only essentially inexhaustible source of water is the ocean.
One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible.
If I could explain my idea in an equation it would go something like. (seawater from the west coast moved inland + converted by combination geothermal/desalination projects = clean water and clean energy.) The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.