That thing is a work of art! Amazing cosmetic restoration. I didn’t know about the gasoline not touching the printing. As usual I learned something new from you.
I've seen the insides of the newer Napa battery chargers that are tall & on wheels and the transformers are absolutely tiny their just a bit bigger than the transformers in a battery charger you carry. These older charger's transformers are often double or more in size.
Looks great. Rather than just blowing the dust from the charger to other things in the space, and possibly breathing it in, vacuuming while agitating with a brush could’ve eliminated most of that dust. And then finish by blowing out whatever remained, while directing it toward the vac hose in the hopes some would be captured. Project Farm found Rust-Oleum gloss enamel to be the toughest paint when tested alongside quite a few other spray paints. I detected a bit of red paint on your arm hair and perhaps your nasal passages, and while a respirator is often advised, a well-placed gentle breeze of a weak fan works wonders. It also works to redirect welding fumes, some errant sparks, and mosquitoes. Kerosene is my go-to for damage-free cleaning but stale gas still comes in handy. Large heat-shrink tubing would've worked on those leads as well. Love your videos.
I really like ginger. You can see the intelligence & love for you in her reactions & in her eyes! She reminds me a lot of a dog I used to have. His name was doobie dog. He's gone now. He was an amazing dog! I had the first pick of the Litter with him. I spent a lot of time training him. He loved to play with his ball and would literally give his life for me! He was an amazingly smart dog and could do just about anything you can dream up!👍
It's pretty much the only method I use anymore. I do the same thing for decals on equipment. Just paint directly over them and wipe it clean while the paint still wet. You get a much nicer smoother edge versus a tape line.
One of my greatest hopes is that some 16 year old sees this and wants to do the same thing. Good video, educational, simple instruction and good clear video angles. You are a good teacher.
The rectifier in that unit is a Selenium rectifier. If you ever see a "thick yellowish" smoke come out of the unit get the heck away immediately. A Selenium rectifier that is overloaded or shorts out can produce Phosgene Gas. (Deadly poison gas. Used in WW1). Wait for area to vent out well before going back in. I saw some fail in the early B&W TV sets and industrial equipment. Nasty. Nice job on the restoration.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Your right old glass household fuses didn't light up. But did you know the thread on those fuses are the same thread as a conventional light bulb.
@@binnsbrian Yes I did, I found quite a few old screw in fuses at my Great Uncle's home in west-central Louisiana when we were clearing it out back in 2008. Although that home in particular did not use glass fuses. What happens if you screw in a light bulb instead of a fuse in those vintage panels? I know the biggest danger was idiots either mistakenly OR intentionally swapping in a larger amperage fuse when one blew to mitigate that pesky issue of over amperage.. Much easier to do for the average idiot in comparison to a more modern panel mounted breaker which requires disassembly of the panel and isn't as easy as screwing in a new fuse.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists They also used to insert a penny before putting in the bad fuse. That bypasses the fuse entirely. Extremely dangerous. I've been an electrician since 1970. Back in the day when i had a fuse panel with a dead short on one of the circuits, I would screw a light bulb in the that circuit's fuse space. The short would act as a switch that caused the bulb to light up. I would then check the rest of that circuit. When the short was cleared the bulb goes out. Sometimes a short is hard to find on a dead circuit.
nice job!!!! im about to tell my age here.... back in the day dad and i used to use regular leaded gas to clean wheel bearings carbs and the like... had one 1lb. Folgers used coffee can and 1/2 lb. coffee can used to clean all parts... now dad was a smoker... its a wounder we never blew ourselves up or burnt the house down !!!
We used to put gasoline in a metal pump sprayer and spray wasps with it. One drop of gas hits a wasp and it's done. I still use gas to get rid of large underground yellow jacket nests.
I have an old 6V /12V charger with 2 and 6 amp options that I repainted. It seems no the ammeter is getting finicky and won't work. I opened the case and cleaned the terminals good but haven't tested it out yet.
Came out really nice. You're right: they don't make new battery chargers with any quality. In fact, I'd trust your old charger more than a brand new one.
Filament bulbs vary in resistance as the light up so are sometimes used to control or limit current. At low current they are low in resistance so don't have too much effect but as current rises they get hot, increase resistance and tend to reduce the through current.
Your right Joe. Google says "A 12V lamp is used as a simple current limiter. As the current increases, the filament heats up and increases resistance thereby limiting the current. When the current is low, the filament is cold and at a quite low resistance so it will allow the max charger volts to be applied to the battery to fully charge it."
I really enjoy watching you figure out things and make them work. I like to do the same type of thing. It is amazing how well built the older stuff is as compared to a lot of the new. Guys many times compliment me on my broad knowledge of various things but when I watch you I always learn something new........that's a compliment, bud. That charger turned out a lot better than I thought it would when I first tuned into your upload. I'm not done watching but wonder where your faithful companion is today. Oh, I just saw Ginger.! That's a great dog.
Just a guess but could the bulb bleed off the capacitor so there is no charge? As a safety device before opening you would know if the build didn't work then you would have to discharge it yourself when you're working on it.
The light bulbs are a simple form of current limiting . I use a dim bulb tester on old radios and TV's Same principle as the battery charger. Liked. All my best.
I love that charger. When I was a younger those car chargers was very popular. I miss those, The new electronic ones, are garage. To clean decals, I use The Original GOJO Hand Cleaner. Great video.
Huh! Gotta admit, I thought it was a little lame for a project at first, but I was wrong! That turned out real nice and it shows he quality that we used to be able to get. Good job man!
I have that exact same charger. The shop I worked at back in the early 80's threw it in the trash when they bought new chargers. I dug it out and took it home and it still works to this day, except the timer no longer works, but I put the alarm on my cell phone so no problem. Not as pretty as yours though.
Sweet job, 👍🏼👍🏼! Love finding any old American made tech then bringing it forward for todays use, especially hand tools. Can’t beat it! Funny, I caught a glimpse of that winged gas can on the shelf and it reminded me of Aerosmiths “get your wings” album cover. Very cool eye candy✌🏼
THIS has to be the best video I have seen on TH-cam Sir. YOU paid attention to details. Showed me some new tricks and you like animals too. Peace Brother. Have a Happy Holidays too. Peace vf
Nice job! What a find! Agree, much nicer and more robust than modern stand up chargers. The light bulbs might be like a dim bulb tester intended to limit current to a battery that's either really dead, or with a shorted cell, or shorted diode in the charger, depending on where they're wired in the circuit. The test of that would be if the bulbs are wired in series in the circuit.
those bulbs are used as probably resistors as they didn't have anything like that back then or nothing as efficient as we do now but still the impressive piece of machinery considering it still works out it's age . They make stuff like that anymore not nowadays. Here's another thought he could be used as a current limiting device I could be wrong.
Lovely old bit of kit that's going to live on as a perfectly usable battery charger. Great to see the VW being used as the work horse that it was designed to be too.
Good tips. Enjoy seeing old, practical and well made machines restored and put back into service. That charger should last the rest of your, your kid’s and your grandchildren’s lifetime. Only other thing you might have done is, lube the fan bearings with light machine oil. By the way, the big diode is likely a germanium diode.
The light bulb is a current limiter indicator when its glowing bright there alot of current flowing but when its dims its about done so you know to turn it off.
Wow, what an amazing find. Rattle-can resto is top shelf. A electrician friend of mine introduced me to that rubber splicing tape some 20 odd years ago and I've been using it ever since. Thanks for the movie and give Ginger a hug for me.
Thanks for the video. I have a couple of old chargers. An old Matco and a Fox. Eventually I repaired the Matco with the rectifier from the Fox. I threw the rest of the Fox charger in a box in the shed. Years later I'm cleaning out the shed and wanted to test the Fox charger components. They looked REALLY bad. Tested good 😊. I built a new box, replaced the push buttons with a rotary switch and added 4-70A diodes. They're better than any new ones for sure.
Cherish vintage things, antique things. Restore them, clean them, and more importantly.....use them....enjoy them. Once they are gone they are gone. The manufacturing processes, the machinery and jigs for making them are gone, and the chemical formulas and their use that went into making this hardware backnin the day has been outlawed in 1st world countries in this so called bright future. So cherish the fruits of the past. When men were men and certain folk weren't alowed on golf courses. The good old days we need back!
I've repaired a few of those chargers over the years. I like the way they use the solenoid to cut power to the negative cable unless it's connected to a battery. Some chargers use a solenoid as reverse connection protection. The selenium rectifier plates tend to break down over time. I just build a new one using a few stud diodes and an aluminum plate. Great video.
@@james10739 They are very old school selenium rectofiers. The running forward volt drop is about 1 V in practice. Modern silicons can drop anything from 0.6 V to 1 V depending on the current flow. So no great efficiencies here. When seleniums fail you will know about it. The smell is pretty awful. I generally replace them with a centre holed silicon bridge rectifier package with four connectors on the top. If you buy a pack you can get them for the eqivalent of 2 to 3 dollars each or even less.
@@r8118830 The problem with those is if you leave them on the battery and it gets charged they will end up over charging and can boil your battery dry. The selenium rectifiers don't do that. Dale in Canada 🇨🇦
@@james10739 for a application like this no difference really. and it will not really benefit from newer silicon rectifiers. only difference would be waste heat and saftey.
Nice job , I love the old stuff it is built to last and be serviced if necessary . Imagine all the batteries this charger has already charged in its life and now it going to charge even more for years to come .
Amazing moe :-D It looks fresh and new again. The transformer was likely hiding under the selenium bridge rectifier plates. Not sure why they needed the bulbs, maybe a trickle charge limiter. The vertical tube is a wirewound power resistor, maybe its switched in series with the mains supply to feed the transformer a lower voltage, maybe for the 6 volt function?. Alternatively the transformer could have full mains voltage and output tappings for 6 and 12v. All guess work, not a complex device. You have done an amazing job 😀
I think your right. I was going to spend more time diagramming/testing the circuit, but I figured it's best not to mess with something that is working.
Nice refurbish Red . Inspiration for others to look after oldies but goodies. I do the same it’s amazing what some people put out . I picked up heavy duty Milwaukee 9 Amp drill . Ryobi belt sander . Bicycles . etc. 👍
Hi Moe, I really enjoyed watching that, start to finish. It looks amazing (and it works)!!!! Words don't do your restoration justice. Thanks for sharing. Beautiful Vintage Charger!
That plate thing is a selenium rectifier, a type of metal rectifier, invented in 1933. The big gray tube is a resistor. Replace the capacitor on the meter they dry out over time.
You have a good charger there , no computer logic circuitry that wont let one charge a battery because its dead. imagine that who would want to charge a dead battery... and cables that flex in the cold weather not like the plastic jackets on the cheena made.
Another Schweet Vid, Thanks.I've found that wd40 is a real nice mild solvent but I haven't tried gasoline, I think I'll give it a whirl. Cool dog, you've spent a lot of time with her and it shows.
Glad you got the stubby wag from Ginger. Like Brian Bloc getting the wag from Baily. I remember well the upright Marquette chargers with the pointer knobs on the top. Great old chargers. FINE job and I may try to make one of your rattle can mixers for quart cans. I use oil base too AND if a little gas don't do it I just use a lot more gas! Thanks ad GBWYall!
Love seeing old stuff brought back to use and if it still works why change it.. see the light bulds could they be used as a sort of overload fuse???????
I saved a Snap-On BC5500-Super and had the charging system diag tester on top. Nothing wrong with the charger and I needed one. The tester didn't work, visual inspection looks like someone caught it on fire and tried to hide it. It was too far damaged inside and got tossed. I started restoring it as functional restore as I'm using it daily at work.. I want to paint it black but I want to find or make decals before any paint. Got new clamps from my Snap-On Rep. I recommend you put a 90 degree a/c plug. I put a small red and black zip tie around the leads on the back of case just in case. I almost got mixed up but easily check. I want to add some LED for status and backlight the AMP gauge, add another gauge volts, or add digital.
At first, I thought the lightbulbs were to let you know when the battery is completely charged up. You can't see the darn thing from the front though so I have no idea. Maybe it's just some kind of resistor.
Wow, nice job Moe. I have two Associated 6009 wheeled chargers from the early 90’s that are made very similar to this one. I’ll keep them both to the day i die, but I know for sure they’ll outlast me anyway!
Found an old bench top battery charger at a garage sale. Currently doesnt work, but I wasnt sure of all the components. You identified some items i realize i can test for continuity. Thanks. Nice looking unit you have there.
Testing comes down to checking the voltage output at points in the circuit. the primary of the transformer needs to be at the supply voltage. 120v rms in the States or 230V ac rms here in the UK where I live. The secondary should give out something like 14v to 16v ac rms. If it doesnt look at the transformer. That 16v rms is fed into the rectifier and the ouput should be somewhere between 13 to 15v dc. They are the main parts of the circuit. You can get variations from this as these are just ballpark figures.
The bulbs could be used as shunts if they are in series with the transformer input. If so, they prevents damage when it gets loaded. Think of them as a series resistor on the primary side that protects against inrush current and short circuit in the secondary side.
Man, she looks sweet! Charger looks good, too! HAHA I have a couple of 1970's era benchtop chargers that need a resto. One is an orange Shumacher, the other is an aqua colored K-Mart unit. You have rekindled my interest in making them shine again. Nice work!
From the inset photo, it looks like that bulbs are wired in parallel with the solenoid terminals. The large appears to have it's center (positive, assuming the solenoid is switching the "negative") to the negative control terminal on the solenoid so current limiting the solenoid coil and will light if the solenoid coil is conducting. Can't tell exactly how the small bulb center is wired. But if the charger isn't working, it does appear to be a quick way to keep customers from condemning the rectifier transformer when it's the solenoid that has failed.
The light bulbs are used as a resistive load (current limiting component) in the internal circuits. Nice job on the 'ol Christie!
That thing is a work of art! Amazing cosmetic restoration. I didn’t know about the gasoline not touching the printing. As usual I learned something new from you.
Thanks
I've seen the insides of the newer Napa battery chargers that are tall & on wheels and the transformers are absolutely tiny their just a bit bigger than the transformers in a battery charger you carry. These older charger's transformers are often double or more in size.
Looks great. Rather than just blowing the dust from the charger to other things in the space, and possibly breathing it in, vacuuming while agitating with a brush could’ve eliminated most of that dust. And then finish by blowing out whatever remained, while directing it toward the vac hose in the hopes some would be captured.
Project Farm found Rust-Oleum gloss enamel to be the toughest paint when tested alongside quite a few other spray paints.
I detected a bit of red paint on your arm hair and perhaps your nasal passages, and while a respirator is often advised, a well-placed gentle breeze of a weak fan works wonders.
It also works to redirect welding fumes, some errant sparks, and mosquitoes.
Kerosene is my go-to for damage-free cleaning but stale gas still comes in handy.
Large heat-shrink tubing would've worked on those leads as well. Love your videos.
I really like ginger. You can see the intelligence & love for you in her reactions & in her eyes!
She reminds me a lot of a dog I used to have. His name was doobie dog. He's gone now. He was an amazing dog!
I had the first pick of the Litter with him. I spent a lot of time training him. He loved to play with his ball and would literally give his life for me!
He was an amazingly smart dog and could do just about anything you can dream up!👍
Wow that trick with the painting the wheels with not bothering to mask and just cleaning right away with gas is brilliant. I'll be stealing that.
It's pretty much the only method I use anymore. I do the same thing for decals on equipment. Just paint directly over them and wipe it clean while the paint still wet. You get a much nicer smoother edge versus a tape line.
One of my greatest hopes is that some 16 year old sees this and wants to do the same thing.
Good video, educational, simple instruction and good clear video angles. You are a good teacher.
The rectifier in that unit is a Selenium rectifier. If you ever see a "thick yellowish" smoke come out of the unit get the heck away immediately. A Selenium rectifier that is overloaded or shorts out can produce Phosgene Gas. (Deadly poison gas. Used in WW1).
Wait for area to vent out well before going back in. I saw some fail in the early B&W TV sets and industrial equipment. Nasty.
Nice job on the restoration.
Good to know.
Nice Restoration. The light bulbs act as fuses just like the old screw in glass fuses. They are much easier to see if they have blown.
The old glass household fuses didn't light up did they? To be honest I've never seen them in action as far as I can recall.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists Your right old glass household fuses didn't light up. But did you know the thread on those fuses are the same thread as a conventional light bulb.
@@binnsbrian Yes I did, I found quite a few old screw in fuses at my Great Uncle's home in west-central Louisiana when we were clearing it out back in 2008. Although that home in particular did not use glass fuses. What happens if you screw in a light bulb instead of a fuse in those vintage panels? I know the biggest danger was idiots either mistakenly OR intentionally swapping in a larger amperage fuse when one blew to mitigate that pesky issue of over amperage.. Much easier to do for the average idiot in comparison to a more modern panel mounted breaker which requires disassembly of the panel and isn't as easy as screwing in a new fuse.
@@Guillotines_For_Globalists They also used to insert a penny before putting in the bad fuse. That bypasses the fuse entirely. Extremely dangerous.
I've been an electrician since 1970. Back in the day when i had a fuse panel with a dead short on one of the circuits, I would screw a light bulb in the that circuit's fuse space. The short would act as a switch that caused the bulb to light up. I would then check the rest of that circuit. When the short was cleared the bulb goes out. Sometimes a short is hard to find on a dead circuit.
@@binnsbrian Thank you for the insight Brian. Also interesting to know you can use the vintage glass fuse receptacle as a test light in a pinch!
The Bulbs are Being Used as Resistors. Cool Old Charger.
What a fantastic revival! Great work!
nice job!!!! im about to tell my age here.... back in the day dad and i used to use regular leaded gas to clean wheel bearings carbs and the like... had one 1lb. Folgers used coffee can and 1/2 lb. coffee can used to clean all parts... now dad was a smoker... its a wounder we never blew ourselves up or burnt the house down !!!
That's great!
We used to put gasoline in a metal pump sprayer and spray wasps with it. One drop of gas hits a wasp and it's done. I still use gas to get rid of large underground yellow jacket nests.
I use gasoline for cleaning nearly everything! $3.59 a gallon Vs. Nearly $9 for 16 or so ounces of brake clean. Plus, gasoline is reusable!
I have an old 6V /12V charger with 2 and 6 amp options that I repainted. It seems no the ammeter is getting finicky and won't work.
I opened the case and cleaned the terminals good but haven't tested it out yet.
Very nice work on the bumping and painting.
Thank you very much!
Came out really nice.
You're right: they don't make new battery chargers with any quality.
In fact, I'd trust your old charger more than a brand new one.
Thanks
They don't makes things like they use to. Great job.
So cool, love those vintage automotive tools, incredible job on the restoration of the charger.
Filament bulbs vary in resistance as the light up so are sometimes used to control or limit current. At low current they are low in resistance so don't have too much effect but as current rises they get hot, increase resistance and tend to reduce the through current.
I think they are also used as a cheap fuse
Fantastic job 👌 I believe the bulbs are being used as current limiters or as a troubleshooting aid.
Makes sense
In car audio it helps limit restoration or that's what I was told.
Your right Joe. Google says "A 12V lamp is used as a simple current limiter. As the current increases, the filament heats up and increases resistance thereby limiting the current. When the current is low, the filament is cold and at a quite low resistance so it will allow the max charger volts to be applied to the battery to fully charge it."
Light bulbs were used like that to limit current and provide some short circuit protection back in the day.
Mr Carlson's lab might know. When he starts up an old device he uses his "current limited and variac supply" that has two light bulbs.
Makes sense
I've got one of these, only difference is the lettering on the front. Got to refurb it now I'm motivated. Thanks
Right on
Lovely work dude. You're always so humble. "That's about as good as it's gonna get" he says after making it look factory fresh 👍
I really enjoy watching you figure out things and make them work. I like to do the same type of thing. It is amazing how well built the older stuff is as compared to a lot of the new. Guys many times compliment me on my broad knowledge of various things but when I watch you I always learn something new........that's a compliment, bud. That charger turned out a lot better than I thought it would when I first tuned into your upload. I'm not done watching but wonder where your faithful companion is today. Oh, I just saw Ginger.! That's a great dog.
Thanks Tom. -Moe
Beautiful job 👍. Ginger sure likes you and I'm always impressed with how smart she is, a real keeper.
Vintage indeed. Pre-zip code. Quite impressive clean up. Seems to me the one our shop had in '62 had more controls / settings so yours pre-dates it.
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Love your dog !!! So intelligent!! I got one too it is a germain pintcher !! He looks at me on everything I do !!
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It's always amazing what a little bit of new paint and some elbow grease can do. It looks amazing!
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Fantastic job I love restoring stuff and seeing people do the same thanks for sharing
Thanks
Just a guess but could the bulb bleed off the capacitor so there is no charge? As a safety device before opening you would know if the build didn't work then you would have to discharge it yourself when you're working on it.
The light bulbs are a simple form of current limiting . I use a dim bulb tester on old radios and TV's Same principle as the battery charger. Liked. All my best.
Thanks for the info. That makes sense.
@@sixtyfiveford Very welcome.
I love that charger. When I was a younger those car chargers was very popular. I miss those, The new electronic ones, are garage. To clean decals, I use The Original GOJO Hand Cleaner. Great video.
Huh! Gotta admit, I thought it was a little lame for a project at first, but I was wrong! That turned out real nice and it shows he quality that we used to be able to get. Good job man!
Thanks!
I have that exact same charger. The shop I worked at back in the early 80's threw it in the trash when they bought new chargers. I dug it out and took it home and it still works to this day, except the timer no longer works, but I put the alarm on my cell phone so no problem. Not as pretty as yours though.
That's awesome!
Great job, Moe! That thing looks GREAT!!! And you multiplied it's value!
Nice work man! Looks amazing!
That turned out great. Well done. Now I gotta find one to do myself.
Hey thanks
I made one of those rattle can shakers. Used it today, in fact. A wonderful invention.
Awesome
Sweet job, 👍🏼👍🏼! Love finding any old American made tech then bringing it forward for todays use, especially hand tools. Can’t beat it! Funny, I caught a glimpse of that winged gas can on the shelf and it reminded me of Aerosmiths “get your wings” album cover. Very cool eye candy✌🏼
Hey thanks. It's fun just to have these around to look at.
THIS has to be the best video I have seen on TH-cam Sir. YOU paid attention to details. Showed me some new tricks and you like animals too. Peace Brother. Have a Happy Holidays too. Peace vf
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@sixtyfiveford Look forward to more great things Sir.
Nice job! What a find! Agree, much nicer and more robust than modern stand up chargers. The light bulbs might be like a dim bulb tester intended to limit current to a battery that's either really dead, or with a shorted cell, or shorted diode in the charger, depending on where they're wired in the circuit. The test of that would be if the bulbs are wired in series in the circuit.
I was thinking the same thing about the internal bulbs
Make sense
@@sixtyfiveford Most likely as current limiting fuses.
those bulbs are used as probably resistors as they didn't have anything like that back then or nothing as efficient as we do now but still the impressive piece of machinery considering it still works out it's age . They make stuff like that anymore not nowadays. Here's another thought he could be used as a current limiting device I could be wrong.
Lovely old bit of kit that's going to live on as a perfectly usable battery charger. Great to see the VW being used as the work horse that it was designed to be too.
Hey thanks. Yeah the VW is a small work pony.
Good tips. Enjoy seeing old, practical and well made machines restored and put back into service. That charger should last the rest of your, your kid’s and your grandchildren’s lifetime. Only other thing you might have done is, lube the fan bearings with light machine oil. By the way, the big diode is likely a germanium diode.
Hey thanks. It should kick around until gas cars are a vintage creature.
The light bulb is a current limiter indicator when its glowing bright there alot of current flowing but when its dims its about done so you know to turn it off.
Wow, what an amazing find. Rattle-can resto is top shelf. A electrician friend of mine introduced me to that rubber splicing tape some 20 odd years ago and I've been using it ever since. Thanks for the movie and give Ginger a hug for me.
Yeah I had an electrician friend pull that stuff out and my draw dropped. He gave me the rest of a roll and I've been buying it / using it ever since.
For cleaning painted surfaces Sprayway glass cleaner works great.
Love that old machine. There's just something special about that stuff. Like a steam locomotive, it's almost got a soul!
I totally agree!
You did a great restoration job on that battery charger. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Cheers
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks for the video. I have a couple of old chargers. An old Matco and a Fox. Eventually I repaired the Matco with the rectifier from the Fox. I threw the rest of the Fox charger in a box in the shed. Years later I'm cleaning out the shed and wanted to test the Fox charger components. They looked REALLY bad. Tested good 😊. I built a new box, replaced the push buttons with a rotary switch and added 4-70A diodes. They're better than any new ones for sure.
Awesome
A block of wood or similar under the lid would save paint on your hand, and leave paint on the bottom edge. nice job .
Absolutely
Awesome job. I have used non abrasive hand cleaner to remove grease from surfaces. Great seeing the VW still going strong. Thanks for the information.
Awesome, I'll have to try that.
That's a nice charger. Those old ones work so much better than the new digital ones.
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That was satisfying.
Good tip about petrol not hurting print, I didn't know that.
Hey thanks
Very nice common sense restoration. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I got my 3 inch pipe plug from Amazon. Looking forward to finishing my paint mixer!
Cherish vintage things, antique things. Restore them, clean them, and more importantly.....use them....enjoy them.
Once they are gone they are gone. The manufacturing processes, the machinery and jigs for making them are gone, and the chemical formulas and their use that went into making this hardware backnin the day has been outlawed in 1st world countries in this so called bright future. So cherish the fruits of the past. When men were men and certain folk weren't alowed on golf courses. The good old days we need back!
Very Nice. I'm sure the founder of Christie Electric is probably looking on with a big grin. Great Dog too!
Hey thanks
I've repaired a few of those chargers over the years. I like the way they use the solenoid to cut power to the negative cable unless it's connected to a battery. Some chargers use a solenoid as reverse connection protection. The selenium rectifier plates tend to break down over time. I just build a new one using a few stud diodes and an aluminum plate. Great video.
Awesome.
Ya I didn't know what kind of diodes those were but wondered if something more modern would have better efficiencies less voltage drop
@@james10739 They are very old school selenium rectofiers. The running forward volt drop is about 1 V in practice. Modern silicons can drop anything from 0.6 V to 1 V depending on the current flow. So no great efficiencies here. When seleniums fail you will know about it. The smell is pretty awful. I generally replace them with a centre holed silicon bridge rectifier package with four connectors on the top. If you buy a pack you can get them for the eqivalent of 2 to 3 dollars each or even less.
@@r8118830 The problem with those is if you leave them on the battery and it gets charged they will end up over charging and can boil your battery dry. The selenium rectifiers don't do that.
Dale in Canada 🇨🇦
@@james10739 for a application like this no difference really. and it will not really benefit from newer silicon rectifiers. only difference would be waste heat and saftey.
Nice job , I love the old stuff it is built to last and be serviced if necessary . Imagine all the batteries this charger has already charged in its life and now it going to charge even more for years to come .
This thing has seen several lifetimes of work.
there is a certain charm to masking over tattered decals before repaint. i do it to all my resto bicycles.
Amazing moe :-D
It looks fresh and new again.
The transformer was likely hiding under the selenium bridge rectifier plates.
Not sure why they needed the bulbs, maybe a trickle charge limiter.
The vertical tube is a wirewound power resistor, maybe its switched in series with the mains supply to feed the transformer a lower voltage, maybe for the 6 volt function?.
Alternatively the transformer could have full mains voltage and output tappings for 6 and 12v.
All guess work, not a complex device.
You have done an amazing job 😀
I think your right. I was going to spend more time diagramming/testing the circuit, but I figured it's best not to mess with something that is working.
Nice refurbish Red . Inspiration for others to look after oldies but goodies. I do the same it’s amazing what some people put out . I picked up heavy duty Milwaukee 9 Amp drill . Ryobi belt sander . Bicycles . etc. 👍
Hi Moe, I really enjoyed watching that, start to finish. It looks amazing (and it works)!!!! Words don't do your restoration justice. Thanks for sharing. Beautiful Vintage Charger!
Thanks Carl. I was excited to pick this up and even more so now that it looks so nice.
Nicely done. I've got an old charger I'm thinking of refurbishing. This video will certainly help.
Hey thanks
That plate thing is a selenium rectifier, a type of metal rectifier, invented in 1933. The big gray tube is a resistor. Replace the capacitor on the meter they dry out over time.
Wow…how you made that face and tag look almost new was amazing. Again, always learning something when watching your videos.
Thanks. It was a fun project
You have a good charger there , no computer logic circuitry that wont let one charge a battery because its dead. imagine that who would want to charge a dead battery... and cables that flex in the cold weather not like the plastic jackets on the cheena made.
Another Schweet Vid, Thanks.I've found that wd40 is a real nice mild solvent but I haven't tried gasoline, I think I'll give it a whirl. Cool dog, you've spent a lot of time with her and it shows.
Glad you got the stubby wag from Ginger. Like Brian Bloc getting the wag from Baily. I remember well the upright Marquette chargers with the pointer knobs on the top. Great old chargers. FINE job and I may try to make one of your rattle can mixers for quart cans. I use oil base too AND if a little gas don't do it I just use a lot more gas! Thanks ad GBWYall!
My only thought with the quart can mixer is you may need to toss a ball bearing / marble in the bottom of the can?
@@sixtyfiveford May be. I'm still just thinking about it. No smoke out of the ears quite yet!
Night time, charging, when the timer stopped, you could see when it was done
Ginger is so adorable 🥰
Amazing job on the charger, when you take a step back it looks brand new! Nice work man 😎
Thanks a bunch!
You do such amazing work. Nice job restoring that piece of history. Jayman...
Thanks Jayman. -Moe
Way too nice for my shop! Good job.
Too nice for mine..
Very nice job, I like it.
Thank you very much!
Nice work. Ginger is so cool. (I miss my late dog.)
i like your paint shaker.
Great find, love the old chargers! Great video, always learning something new!
Thanks Man
Love seeing old stuff brought back to use and if it still works why change it.. see the light bulds could they be used as a sort of overload fuse???????
Thanks. Possibly.
New to your channel. You and Mustie1 would have a field day repairing older equipment together
Awsome find, great job! Thanks for sharing, Derek
Thanks for watching!
Nice renovation!
Thanks!
I saved a Snap-On BC5500-Super and had the charging system diag tester on top. Nothing wrong with the charger and I needed one. The tester didn't work, visual inspection looks like someone caught it on fire and tried to hide it. It was too far damaged inside and got tossed. I started restoring it as functional restore as I'm using it daily at work.. I want to paint it black but I want to find or make decals before any paint. Got new clamps from my Snap-On Rep.
I recommend you put a 90 degree a/c plug. I put a small red and black zip tie around the leads on the back of case just in case. I almost got mixed up but easily check. I want to add some LED for status and backlight the AMP gauge, add another gauge volts, or add digital.
At first, I thought the lightbulbs were to let you know when the battery is completely charged up. You can't see the darn thing from the front though so I have no idea. Maybe it's just some kind of resistor.
That's my thought
Nice. The one label reads for service contact "Karl Winter Co", which is out of Ogden UT FYI
Beautiful and beautifully done!
Hey thanks
Wow cool, built like a tank. Luckily you grabbed it, with scrap prices being so high things like this week become rarer and rarer. Looks great!
Hey thanks. I swear some guys would scrap a good tool set just to make 50 cents.
Nice work, good match on white paint.
Thanks, it took a few attempts to match it.
@@sixtyfiveford I though it would.
Nicely done, enjoying your video. You're the master of spray paint! It is also a genius idea to use gasoline as cleaning solution!
Thanks
Wow, nice job Moe. I have two Associated 6009 wheeled chargers from the early 90’s that are made very similar to this one. I’ll keep them both to the day i die, but I know for sure they’ll outlast me anyway!
Those Associated are nice chargers and not cheap new. That's awesome.
It was a wonderful restoration beautiful
Found an old bench top battery charger at a garage sale. Currently doesnt work, but I wasnt sure of all the components. You identified some items i realize i can test for continuity. Thanks. Nice looking unit you have there.
Awesome
Testing comes down to checking the voltage output at points in the circuit. the primary of the transformer needs to be at the supply voltage. 120v rms in the States or 230V ac rms here in the UK where I live. The secondary should give out something like 14v to 16v ac rms. If it doesnt look at the transformer. That 16v rms is fed into the rectifier and the ouput should be somewhere between 13 to 15v dc. They are the main parts of the circuit. You can get variations from this as these are just ballpark figures.
Nice Restoration !!!!! You are the man. Tell Ginger I said hello.
Hey thanks
Cool. Love the show. Thanks.
Thanks Mark. -Moe
That was a great find!!!
Wow! Amazing transformation!
Thanks Man
The bulbs could be used as shunts if they are in series with the transformer input. If so, they prevents damage when it gets loaded.
Think of them as a series resistor on the primary side that protects against inrush current and short circuit in the secondary side.
That makes sense
Hello 👋 could be that the lightbulbs are like a fuse? When they burned, there is probably no electric flow anymore??
Yeah, if the burnt out the solenoid wouldn't turn on.
Man, she looks sweet! Charger looks good, too! HAHA
I have a couple of 1970's era benchtop chargers that need a resto. One is an orange Shumacher, the other is an aqua colored K-Mart unit. You have rekindled my interest in making them shine again. Nice work!
Awesome
From the inset photo, it looks like that bulbs are wired in parallel with the solenoid terminals. The large appears to have it's center (positive, assuming the solenoid is switching the "negative") to the negative control terminal on the solenoid so current limiting the solenoid coil and will light if the solenoid coil is conducting. Can't tell exactly how the small bulb center is wired. But if the charger isn't working, it does appear to be a quick way to keep customers from condemning the rectifier transformer when it's the solenoid that has failed.
Makes sense
That turned out brilliant ! Great video
Hey thanks